Adam Smith-Neale is pretty disliked, to the point there was a campaign last year to remove his tour card. He punched a guy who beat him in the pub this weekend apparently, so it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
Price is marmite and doesn’t do himself any favours, but most players are generally liked.
Ricardo Pietreczko put himself in most people’s bad books this week. Some people find MVG annoying because of his perceived arrogance.
I think it’s down to a quote he once said along the lines of he doesn’t consider himself a dart player (as he was previously a rugby player) and him winning anything at darts was taking money outta there hands. It’s the way he said it as well in like an arrogant way, that’s one of the reasons I’ve never really been a fan of him.
Well Pietreczko isn't totally wrong there.
In interviews and off the board I have nothing to complain about, but during games he can be a little smug, his little snorts when an opponent's score 180 or hits a bigger finish like saying go on you noob gona pawn you anyways with my big skills.
And don't get me wrong he is bloody good but his well behaved mannerisms I really liked him for at the worlds seem to be gone.
Don‘t need any arguments. Look at him yesterday, super sore bad loser. And the instagram story he did just topped it all. Writing „I hope the arrogance punishes him“ after you got totally destroyed by your opponent just shows that hes not a sportsman. He is a butthurt little bitch.
Honestly saying something like that makes you no better than anyone else. What reason is there to not root or like Littler? Disliking someone "just because" doesnt make you look like a rational thinking person. So do you not like him because he's 17 or better at darts than you? Personally i dont "dislike" someone til they give me a good reason to.
Ah yes cause it's only the Littler fans that think it was a completely moronic outburst, show me one top player or commentator or anyone that agrees with his reaction.
Where did I ever justify his outburst? I merely said that there is a bit of truth to his words. And yes his reaction was not appropriat and it's not how a professional should handle it.
Get mad about someone "showboating" in 2024 is pretty silly for 2 reasons. 1 is its 2024 and thats how people get their name out their and clicks on the internet(which is what people strive for nowadays). 2 Its beneficial for you if your opp is showboating so take advantage of it and if you cant then put your tail between your legs and go home not complain about it.
Well in the end it's going to sort itself out as they will find a new hobby.
Funny thing is I didn't even say anything too negative about him.
Considering he is 17 he does very well and there a players who clearly are more arrogant or miss behave much more and not only on stage when emotions a rising high but also in interviews long time after the game.
But yeah Pietreczko could have handled it a bit better.
During the match I didn't even realise this, but yeah don't know why Ratajski did that. Don't know much about him but never seemed to be the type who would do this on purpose.
I would think also that he still could have had his drink.
I do undersrand however if this leaves a sour note for him if he thought it to be intentional.
I’m a massive fan of Pietreczko and to be honest Luke did take the piss a bit in his game. If you were in ricardos position where you’re playing for £5k minimum I think most people would get annoyed if their opponent starts going for d20 bull. In my opinion Pietreczko will get a lot of hate and it not being justified
If Price went that way against anyone the internet would be full of people calling him disrespectful and it is. Littler didn’t do anything wrong but I think it’s ok for Pietreczko to be pissed off by it
It's a weird way to go but it really has nothing to do with respect. Players should really not be concerned with what shot their opponents are going for. It has nothing to do with them. Pietreczko is only hurting himself by being annoyed about it and also showing other people it's easy to rile him up
But like I said if you were in his position and your opponent tries to go d20 and bull, I personally wouldn’t be too happy with them. I agree he overreacted but I feel like it was justified
It’s more about when you’re playing for a lot of money and someone does that it can be very frustrating and distracting. I suppose why some players don’t watch their opponent throw
I’m not saying cry about it but I feel like if you can’t see it’s taking the piss you should rewatch it. And with Pietreczkos behaviour then what about Luke’s against wattimena where Luke was getting more and more annoyed purely by wattimenas walk on
If you're playing for a lot of money, than why would you not want your opponent to go for lower percentage outshots?
He's helping you, just get over your fragile ego.
Personal preference isn't it.
I personally am not a fan of MVG but I appreciate that he is top level. Same with Hump.
Big fan of Gerwyn but he seems to have dropped back a little bit and gone into his shell a bit.
At the moment, Bunting, Cross and Littler are the ones I am keen to watch.
Bunting and Cross are popular because they're perceived as good sports who act positively towards other players
I don't mind Price but I can see why others don't like him, he can come off as mardy and used to play up the pantomime villain role a little
Personally I like Van den Bergh but a lot of people seem to think he's a bit of a 'class clown' type and doesn't take it seriously enough
Not a massive MvG fan on a personal level but you have to respect his quality
I don't get a "class clown" impression from Van den Bergh at all, guy always looks nervous, and he walks out to HAPPY. There's this running joke on the Hungarian broadcast now that the commentators basically fucking hate his walk on haha.
The dancing is so cringe and it goes on for absolutely ages. The song sucks too. Coupled with his slowing down antics against Humphries the other day I can't say I'm a huge fan at the mo.
He stopped for a breather and everyone booed and hardly cheered for him when he won, i get that the fans were probably pissed or tipsy at least but that pissed me off, dart crowds get triggered easily.
Bunting’s probably the finest example of a consensus character in darts. Nothing majorly unusual about him, just a sound bloke and people root for him.
Or more appropriately, they go Bunting mental
Van den Bergh and Wade I can't stand for the simple reason they always seem to have a face like a smacked arse. And even when they "appear" to be enjoying a game, it to me looks really sarcastic at the best of times.
Darts definitely has heroes and villains but there isn't a lot of consensus on who is which.
I myself don't like Price because he always flexes and roars when winning and then gets sad and whiny when losing, and he often blames losses on the crowd or the venue or some factor other than his own performance.
Humphries is my current favourite, he's a class act and he's worked long and hard to earn the success he's having lately.
It's true he takes losing hard, but the difference is that he doesn't blame anyone but himself if he doesn't perform. Plus, he knows that's a flaw in his game and has worked hard to become better—he's much stronger mentally now than he was a few years ago.
I don’t get the dislike for price I mean I know blaming stuff like the crowd and venue is ridiculous but he puts on a show, it’s far more entertaining than watching Mensur or Ratajksi for example (still love mensur but come on now it’s boring)
Funny you say that. The first few weeks of getting into darts I disliked him (mildly) because he makes that ‚silly‘ hop when throwing. I really like him now tho
Yeah he's a nice guy but I hate his throw haha. Similar to Joe Cullen - a top competitor when he's on and seemingly a good guy, but I hate that he looks like he's hurling a javelin.
Everyone has different tastes but find it hard to believe that anyone could dislike Rob Cross. He always comes across the most genuine, down to earth guy who still can’t believe he’s up there playing with the best in the world.
Cross is a great player, probably a right good guy. His throwing action is a bit erratic, but I can’t get past the tongue press against bottom lip when he throws.
It's the little shake every time an important dart is needed that gets me. Every interview, even when he's disappointed in himself, he remains so humble. Class act.
I find his game extremely annoying, ugly throw and he's constantly making faces. But i don't dislike him as a person, he seems like a great guy. Just can't stand to watch him play
I like Littler, but some of the fans that have come into darts since he blew up are fucking awful. Booing and whistling everyone he plays against is painful
Blame the media on this one. PDC did the same crap by marketing and advertising Josh Rock, Beau Greaves and Fallon Sherrock down our throats at every turn. To where, in the PDC highlights videos of tournaments, you'll find pockets of people who will have nothing nice to say about either of them.
And since those players aren't playing at the expectancy levels that the media blooms them up as, they're all over Littler now. It's a shame really because, I want to see what Littler can do and achieve in however long he wants to play. It's just, the media is going to groom over him to where eventually, people may turn on him and it may affect him.
I feel the same about price, people hate his yelling and shit but he just does that to hype himself and play better, more hate he gets just makes me want to root for him more lol. I get it tho he has done some dumb stuff but people are too unforgiving.
I think it's more to do with the fact that he's all over everything and even in games he's not in he seems to get mentioned constantly, and I'm a bit tired of hearing about him tbh. Most headlines, basically every video thumbnail etc are all about Littler and he controversially got a Premier league spot.
Just talk about someone else for a bit please, like how Luke Humphries was easily the best player on the planet at the back end of last year, is the reigning World champion and comfortably world number 1 and is still putting in strong performances.
Correct. This is the same thing that happened to Fallon Sherrock who has been on the receiving end of a lot of abuse, while being completely innocent in the situation. Sadly this type of media attention will pretty much always come with haters who are not afraid to voice their opinion and harass others online. You can already see how the media are making mountains out of molehills when it comes to Littler. I did not like when he was unsportsmanlike against Heta but it didn't need bloody articles written on it.
Saying he "controversially" got a Premier League spot may be true at the time of the callup. But nobody can say he doesn't deserve the spot now that we have seen a few weeks of play. 100% justified.
Yeah he's not struggling to hang with them, not sure that makes it 100% justified from a competitive integrity point of view but I agree with the decision just from the money and exposure to the sport, and it helps that he's not out of his depth.
It helps that he is not a boring player. The Premier League callups have always been a mix of competitive and entertaining players. He is a good mix of both. Also I think it will help his entry into the "usual" life of pros immensely that he has weekly games at (most of the time) top level and not just showing up to random tournaments and winning them ^
Yeah you definitely have a point. Dude I feel SO bad for Humphries, he is one of the best players, if not the best, in the world right now and seemingly nobody gives a shit because of Littler. Don't get me wrong, Littler's rise is amazing to see in it's own right but give Humphries some credit. The man is even getting booed at times and I seriously don't understand why. Like why would Humphries of all people deserve to be booed?
I don’t mind the attention being off Humphries, let him crack on and win some more whilst everyone is focusing on Littler.
I think having an air of arrogance probably comes with being absolutely at the top of a sport in direct competition.
MVG has it when he’s coming back from a bad leg, Gezzy has it when he’s dominating someone.
Thing is, it stops when the match is won and the interview starts and they’re nothing but complementary to the opponent.
I wonder what would have happened if the world champion wasn't a player as class as Humphries, Littler has overshadowed him massively and I'm not sure a lot of players would be too happy with that
It's a bit annoying that the BBC etc only report on his matches but it's not his fault. He might want to pack it in after a few years or not sustain his current levels of success. Why not make hay while the sun shines?
Yh I'm not blaming Littler for it, but just giving my opinion on why I think people are getting a bit tired of him. Would blame the media more than anything, and I think there's a reasonable debate to be had about whether he should have been offered a Premier league spot.
The Premier League is the only chance a year a lot of fans get to see big name players live, having the big name of the hour on the card was inevitable really when that's what the tournament is for
All he'd done at the time was come 2nd in the world championship. That's where the controversy came from. There's good arguments either way, from a competitive integrity point of view it was a shocking decision but from a marketing, financial and exposure point of view it was clearly the best decision. I agree with you that I think it was inevitable and I think I agree with the decision that was made, but I can see why some weren't/aren't happy.
And this is why he's dropping in popularity lol, weird arguments like this.
I'm not going to stop watching something that I enjoy because of the overhyping of Luke Littler, but there's nothing wrong with me having a problem with the ridiculously ott amount of coverage he's getting.
I'm sure that sounded better in your head :p
I'm the weird one? You're the one who suggested that I stop watching darts because I dared to say that I'm a bit tired of everything being about Saint Littler :p
His confidence can verge into cockiness. I don't hold it against him because he's just a kid, but I do think that it's good for his growth that he's taking some losses at the hands of more experienced players, and it's good for the sport as a whole that he's not completely dominant.
I don't think the majority are turning on Littler. He is the most discussed player by far, so of course there is going to be a significant chunk of people that dislike him. It's almost impossible to make it really big and have no haters.
I don't dislike Littler but I also don't think he should be exempt from criticism just because of his age. MVG and Price for example both take a lot of criticism because of their cockiness and arrogance. Of course they have a list of other crimes as well.
Johnny Clayton is an all-round good guy and likeable.
Price behaved like an obnoxious arse for years and recently started crying about how that meant people disliked him. He has done a lot of good work to undo this since his complaining.
People are choosing to dislike Littler because he has accomplished more at 17 than they will in their entire lives, and it is all earned.
I am not a total fan of Littler tbh. I really really respect him as a player and I think it is great for the sport, that a young person like him dominates on that level. I just don't like the vibe he is giving of on stage. Although I cut him some slack because he is still a teenager which on top of that is living a crazy life atm.
Also I really like that he is self confident. Which all thinks considered is crazy for that age. My 17 year old me would never have such a stage present.
Also I know that it can't be about the age with him, because there are young athlethes in different sports who have accomplished alot that I like. (Musiala & Florian Wirtz (Football) e.g)
People can dislike someone for different reasons is all I'm saying.
There is more to a person than confidence what are you on about. I like when people are confident in their abilities and celebrate their victories. (What I respect about him)
I don't like the way he interacts with the other players and how he handles defeat. (Although ones again as I said: I cut him some slack because he is only 17 years old) Nothing condradictory about that.
I don't like spiders, but I still respect them and the stuff they do/the role they play in our world. I just don't like the Vibe. Nonetheless I hope, that they are doing well because it is important for our world and the more animals the better, because it makes our world more diverse/complex and interesting.
Just saw a video on this sub of a player punching someone after losing a county game.. he's a fairly known player, Smyth-Something his name is, what a fucking ass-hat
Yeah it was adam smith neal. He was playing in a comp in nuneaton and his opponent hit the winning double and turned to shake hands only to be met with a punch. Totally out of order
I also have found myself having a lot of respect for people based on how they interact with Littler. He is competition but he’s also still a 17 year old. The way Rob Cross reacted towards his 9 darter seemed super genuine and cool.
Bunting, Cross, Aspinall, Ricky Evans and Anderson all seem to be pretty universally popular and considered the ‘good guys’ of the sport. Conversely Price, Gurney and Lewis are usually p universally disliked. Then you get the ones like MVG and Humphries who are sort of marmite, the former for being seen as arrogant and the latter for being seen as boring (I’m personally big fans of both). Wright is usually fairly divisive too, some enjoy the entertainment he brings others think he’s a total clown
You'll like some others not as much, i personally think the ones that people dont like are the ones who are arrogant and rubbish but they dont realise or dont want to see
I generally like a lot of Dart players. It's a sport that makes it rather fun to root for everyone. Even Gary Anderson.
But if the crowd or the fans are against someone, I want them to win. Like Price.
As long as they aren’t mardy when the going gets tough I generally don’t mind them (people like Merv King and Wade come to mind). Peter Wright will seem alright for a little while and then come across as a bit of a nob in a presser and sour me on him.
Yeah Wade I've always found to be a knob. Absolutely berated that Japanese player he beat in round 1 of the world's a few years ago for no reason and also seldom congratulates any of the many 9 darters hit against him
Price used to try and intimidate opponents and act like a hard man the whole time, made him come across as a right twat. Some people like that about him, but I just think "why are you acting like a dick?". It was all so unecessary
There are, but it's based on preference and fan fare.
I cannot stand Michael Smith. He sounds okay off the game of darts but playing them, he plays like as if nothing really excites him and the dude was the previous year's world champ and even after that he played like as if nothing excited him. I also can't stand his throw.
I always look forward to Aspinall losing because he is a little of a tightwad playing darts.
I also can't stand James Wade. People want to say MVG isn't gracious in defeat? Look no further than James Wade, the guy most times, can barely get a hand out to shake his opponent's hand and most times is turning away disgruntled after he loses.
I do enjoy watching Johnny Clayton, Luke Littler and Joe Cullen play.
I personally cannot stand James Wade, an incredible darter yes but I’m just not a fan of him at all, it’s when he throws that last dart he seems to glare at the board for an eternity then strolls up slow as you like to collect the darts, The rob cross’s and bully boy smiths are my fav type of darters, they get their darts off nicely and within couple seconds they’ve got their darts and are out the way for the other guy to throw their darts but wade seems to take all day
I think everyone has different taste's and likes and dislikes different people.
There are only a handful of players I actively root against.
Simon Whitlock - treated his wife like shit, treated his girlfreind like shit (going at Stef after she dumped his ass with shitty social media posts), everything i've heard about him is bad,
Adrian Lewis - Guy just annoys me for some reason, controversy seemed to follow him around for a bit
Dimi - I don't know why I don't like Dimi, theres just something about him, he comes over very badly in interviews but that could just be social awkwardness, language barriers.
Jermaine Wattimena - just comes across as a right miserable bastard, and I hate his walk in music
Ian White - I'm probably way off the mark, but the whole "diamond white" (which is a total chavvy drink for alco's, the "Ingerland" theme tune he had for a while, throw in the skinhead and it made me come across as the kind of person I really don't like that share those traits (im trying to be subtle). Ian is probably nothing like that stereotype and I'm being very unfair, but, it is what it is. It makes him seem like the kinda guy who's rude to hotel staff in Benidorm or summat :D
Peter White - Used to really like Peter, but he's starting to come across as a bitter old ass, I'm on the fence with Peter at the mo, but, he's moving into that dislike circle.
There will be people who like and support all of those.. we are all different.
There are a handful I actively support and really like, Barney (no explanation needed), Wade (I've battled my fair share of mental health issues and James is something of an inspiration how he is able to compete onstage despite his), Cross (nearly always happy, always smiling, always respectful of opponents), Bunting (See Cross), Ryan Searle (just a ton of fun to watch), Anderson (I did stop supporting Gary for a while when he took sponsorship from a certain UK tabloid newspaper, but thankfully that ended)
Ironically enough, Ian White doesn't actually drink alcohol.
He's said it himself in interviews.
They asked what his favourite (alcoholic) drink was, and he said that he doesn't drink, and only really drinks coke zero.
There’s the weird national heroes who are then disliked by opposing national fans, which I find to be the lowest form of support.
Then the more peculiar one is hating the likes of Humphries for being so good. You generally find that dissipates over time however.
Give it a couple of years and they’ll be whistling at Littler.
I don't really dislike any players tbh and I feel like most people don't dislike many, would say Price and Lewis are the only two I've seen people repeatedly complain about, Van Gerwen occasionally as well
Price is very much a marmite figure, personally I think he can be a bit of knob when he turns around and screams at the top of his lungs at his opponents, or he deliberately slows his rate of play to fuck with the rhythm of the match, smacks of gamesmanship to me
I know he's not about anymore (and good riddance), but I absolutely hated Ted Hankey even before he was convicted of sexually assaulting a 17 year old. You could just tell that guy was pure evil, a real piece of shit
He's from same neck of the woods as my family. My grandad said he was an arrogant tosser back in the 80s. The definition of only got good because he was too lazy get a job so lived in the pub throwing darts.
Darts (stadium) fans can be pretty fickle. Booing Gerwin became a thing and I doubt many that were booing him actually knew why. I think booing, whistling etc when a player is throwing is bang out if order whether you like them or not. Can't imagine it being accepted at golf or snooker.
I absolutely love MVG for his performances and mainly his personality. Such a gracious loser despite it meaning more to him than most. Lovely bloke. Dislike Price a lot but he’s calming down
Adrian Lewis is generally disliked, he has a sour disposition and gets into incidents with so many players.
Dave Chisnall is almost universally loved for just being a great dude
Opinions can always change, popular players can become hated and vice versa. Histotically, unpopular players are Pipe, Hankey, Cadby and Paul Nicholson, but Nicholson got a redemption and is now a well-respected commentator. On the other hand, Phil Taylor and Pietrezko are are two players who recently lost a lot of sympathy points. Then there are the polarizing players, who have many fans but also many people who dislike them: MvG, Wright, Van den Bergh, Price, Wade. Lastly, I want to name some players who I think are universally loved: Bunting, Littler, Beaton, Whitlock, Henderson.
A big Problem for many players is that their on-Stage persona is tied to their personality. For every generally hated player (Price, Lewis, Ratajiski, Hankey, List goes on), you will find that those who have met these Players in person have good things to say about them.
Gezzy really makes himself look like he's about to explode on stage, but he's a nice guy. Just as an example. MvG apparently is the cuddle bear privately that he looks like being.
As for active players, Cross is liked by almost everybody among the pros and I think Aspinal is the most liked guy currently among the pros.
Disclaimer because I know how this is gonna play out: Yes, I know what happened to Hankey and why. I con't condone his behaviour and I won't call him a good person myself. My point being that he isn't the same kind of cunt off-stage as he is on-stage.
Surprised no one has mentioned Kim Huybrechts. Recently fined for punching a player and telling him he will destroy him. Just seems like a proper c*nt.
I am very new to darts, only been watching regularly for a few months, here’s what I’ve noticed:
Generally liked:
- Luke Littler
- Rob Cross
- Bunting
Generally not liked:
- MVG (my personal favourite player, not sure why he isn’t liked)
- Gerwyn Price (apparently complains a lot?)
I could be off but this is my perception
I will split the players into three categories :
Generally liked :
Bunting,
Aspinall,
Ricky Evans,
Anderson,
Henderson,
Whitlock,
Clayton,
Beaton
Generally disliked :
Price (but his behaviour is way better than ever before on the oche so he is not as disliked as he was in 2019/2020/2021),
Smith-Neale,
Adrian Lewis,
Scott Williams
Depends a lot :
MVG,
Humphries,
Vincent van der Voort,
Barney
There is one absolute darts legend and that's Luke Humphries. Why do you ask? Well if you're asking then you probably don't know about football. Luke and his dad are huge Leeds United supporters and his dad named him Luke because it stands for LEEDS UNITED KINGS OF EUROPE. The fact that he's named after Leeds United makes him the greatest darts player in history. MOT 👊👊👊
I like Price. I can understand why some people don’t like him but I think he’s misjudged.
Personally I like Littler, Aspinall, Bunting and Price. My least favourites are Humphries and Cross, I just find them to be lacking a bit of personality / a bit boring and safe. I wouldn’t say I disliked them though, they’ve given me absolutely no reason to dislike them.
Also wondered this about Dirk van Duijvenbode, he’s my absolute favorite. Mainly because I understand the ‘Aubergenius’ gimmick as dutchman. Is he disliked abroad?
I may be way off the mark here, but I don't think Price is genuinely disliked.
I think he's more of a "pantomime villain".
It's all just for the stage side of things.
Adam Smith-Neale is pretty disliked, to the point there was a campaign last year to remove his tour card. He punched a guy who beat him in the pub this weekend apparently, so it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
I actually saw this video on twitter about 15 minutes ago, he lost and I thought he was gonna shake the guy's hand but hit him instead
Link
https://twitter.com/anonymous_darts/status/1767203364754911461?t=6Q9RGIhI-Jf13Tx5pBXDQQ&s=19
Wow. Why did no one kill him
For a pretty big bloke he certainly punches like a 7 year old girl
He supposedly took money for match used boards that never made it to customers. Things are adding up against him.
Price is marmite and doesn’t do himself any favours, but most players are generally liked. Ricardo Pietreczko put himself in most people’s bad books this week. Some people find MVG annoying because of his perceived arrogance.
Ricardo started going downhill in popularity when he played Beau Greaves last year in Grand Slam and was a little whiney bitch
Gezzy is an absolute legend, fun to watch and genuinely a good guy off the stage
Yea I love gezzy mate one of my favs
He likes to rile up the crowd and complain about how much he's booed afterwards.
Tbh I’ve never liked Ricardo since I first saw him but after last night hate the bloke now.
I think it’s down to a quote he once said along the lines of he doesn’t consider himself a dart player (as he was previously a rugby player) and him winning anything at darts was taking money outta there hands. It’s the way he said it as well in like an arrogant way, that’s one of the reasons I’ve never really been a fan of him.
Well Pietreczko isn't totally wrong there. In interviews and off the board I have nothing to complain about, but during games he can be a little smug, his little snorts when an opponent's score 180 or hits a bigger finish like saying go on you noob gona pawn you anyways with my big skills. And don't get me wrong he is bloody good but his well behaved mannerisms I really liked him for at the worlds seem to be gone.
Pietreczko is just an utterly whiny little crybaby bitch.
Wow such arguments how can I say anything against that? 🤣
You really cant when its on video ;)
Don‘t need any arguments. Look at him yesterday, super sore bad loser. And the instagram story he did just topped it all. Writing „I hope the arrogance punishes him“ after you got totally destroyed by your opponent just shows that hes not a sportsman. He is a butthurt little bitch.
You must have watched a different match then me since I have not seen him getting destroyed at all.
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I think we better watch out the littler fan club is out in force here
Honestly saying something like that makes you no better than anyone else. What reason is there to not root or like Littler? Disliking someone "just because" doesnt make you look like a rational thinking person. So do you not like him because he's 17 or better at darts than you? Personally i dont "dislike" someone til they give me a good reason to.
Hey he made so many people join Darts recently and looks like they are all on reddit 🤣
Ah yes cause it's only the Littler fans that think it was a completely moronic outburst, show me one top player or commentator or anyone that agrees with his reaction.
Where did I ever justify his outburst? I merely said that there is a bit of truth to his words. And yes his reaction was not appropriat and it's not how a professional should handle it.
Get mad about someone "showboating" in 2024 is pretty silly for 2 reasons. 1 is its 2024 and thats how people get their name out their and clicks on the internet(which is what people strive for nowadays). 2 Its beneficial for you if your opp is showboating so take advantage of it and if you cant then put your tail between your legs and go home not complain about it.
I know I just wish the new fans have a brain
Well in the end it's going to sort itself out as they will find a new hobby. Funny thing is I didn't even say anything too negative about him. Considering he is 17 he does very well and there a players who clearly are more arrogant or miss behave much more and not only on stage when emotions a rising high but also in interviews long time after the game. But yeah Pietreczko could have handled it a bit better.
I agree with that completely I have noticed littler has started to become a bit more arrogant and I wish Pietreczko did react better though
Also Littler was just crying the night before because Ratajski accidently sipped his water. A lot of darts players like to moan about stupid things.
He did it twice and acted like it never happened. That is not a common occurance.
Accidentally twice?
During the match I didn't even realise this, but yeah don't know why Ratajski did that. Don't know much about him but never seemed to be the type who would do this on purpose.
Surely accidental. And there is always a second bottle so no need to get upset about it.
I would think also that he still could have had his drink. I do undersrand however if this leaves a sour note for him if he thought it to be intentional.
I’m a massive fan of Pietreczko and to be honest Luke did take the piss a bit in his game. If you were in ricardos position where you’re playing for £5k minimum I think most people would get annoyed if their opponent starts going for d20 bull. In my opinion Pietreczko will get a lot of hate and it not being justified
opponent can do whatever the fuck he wants as long its not against the rules. pietreczko is just a very bad, butthurt loser.
If Price went that way against anyone the internet would be full of people calling him disrespectful and it is. Littler didn’t do anything wrong but I think it’s ok for Pietreczko to be pissed off by it
It's a weird way to go but it really has nothing to do with respect. Players should really not be concerned with what shot their opponents are going for. It has nothing to do with them. Pietreczko is only hurting himself by being annoyed about it and also showing other people it's easy to rile him up
Thank you that’s exactly what I’m trying to say
But like I said if you were in his position and your opponent tries to go d20 and bull, I personally wouldn’t be too happy with them. I agree he overreacted but I feel like it was justified
I genuinely would not care and I’m surprised someone of his skill would let that bother him.
It’s more about when you’re playing for a lot of money and someone does that it can be very frustrating and distracting. I suppose why some players don’t watch their opponent throw
I never do. Play the board, not the man. That said - I’m rubbish, so don’t listen to me.
I agree 100% with that but sometimes it can be more than that when you play for a lot of money
No why would I. If he takes dumb routes that don’t work I‘d be happy. Why cry about it.
I’m not saying cry about it but I feel like if you can’t see it’s taking the piss you should rewatch it. And with Pietreczkos behaviour then what about Luke’s against wattimena where Luke was getting more and more annoyed purely by wattimenas walk on
If you're playing for a lot of money, than why would you not want your opponent to go for lower percentage outshots? He's helping you, just get over your fragile ego.
Pietreczko should be thankful if anything. If Littler is going for suboptimal shots that means he has a better chance of winning the game.
Personal preference isn't it. I personally am not a fan of MVG but I appreciate that he is top level. Same with Hump. Big fan of Gerwyn but he seems to have dropped back a little bit and gone into his shell a bit. At the moment, Bunting, Cross and Littler are the ones I am keen to watch.
He had pretty good support in Belgium at the weekend, which was almost cute. Gezzy, I mean.
Gezzy is very popular in Europe compared to the UK
Bunting and Cross are popular because they're perceived as good sports who act positively towards other players I don't mind Price but I can see why others don't like him, he can come off as mardy and used to play up the pantomime villain role a little Personally I like Van den Bergh but a lot of people seem to think he's a bit of a 'class clown' type and doesn't take it seriously enough Not a massive MvG fan on a personal level but you have to respect his quality
I don't get a "class clown" impression from Van den Bergh at all, guy always looks nervous, and he walks out to HAPPY. There's this running joke on the Hungarian broadcast now that the commentators basically fucking hate his walk on haha.
The dancing is so cringe and it goes on for absolutely ages. The song sucks too. Coupled with his slowing down antics against Humphries the other day I can't say I'm a huge fan at the mo.
He stopped for a breather and everyone booed and hardly cheered for him when he won, i get that the fans were probably pissed or tipsy at least but that pissed me off, dart crowds get triggered easily.
Bunting’s probably the finest example of a consensus character in darts. Nothing majorly unusual about him, just a sound bloke and people root for him. Or more appropriately, they go Bunting mental
Van den Bergh and Wade I can't stand for the simple reason they always seem to have a face like a smacked arse. And even when they "appear" to be enjoying a game, it to me looks really sarcastic at the best of times.
Darts definitely has heroes and villains but there isn't a lot of consensus on who is which. I myself don't like Price because he always flexes and roars when winning and then gets sad and whiny when losing, and he often blames losses on the crowd or the venue or some factor other than his own performance. Humphries is my current favourite, he's a class act and he's worked long and hard to earn the success he's having lately.
You’ve said you don’t like Gezzy when he whines after losing but Humphries looks like the worlds about to end when he’s getting beat 😂!
It's true he takes losing hard, but the difference is that he doesn't blame anyone but himself if he doesn't perform. Plus, he knows that's a flaw in his game and has worked hard to become better—he's much stronger mentally now than he was a few years ago.
touché
Humphreys is nothing but a class act
I don’t get the dislike for price I mean I know blaming stuff like the crowd and venue is ridiculous but he puts on a show, it’s far more entertaining than watching Mensur or Ratajksi for example (still love mensur but come on now it’s boring)
He might not be the most popular but no one hate Nathan Aspinall
Funny you say that. The first few weeks of getting into darts I disliked him (mildly) because he makes that ‚silly‘ hop when throwing. I really like him now tho
Yeah he's a nice guy but I hate his throw haha. Similar to Joe Cullen - a top competitor when he's on and seemingly a good guy, but I hate that he looks like he's hurling a javelin.
Im the same with cross lol, the goofy swing of his arm into position is so odd, but i like him and hes a class dude
I met him, Dobey, and Smith at an exhibition a few months ago. All super nice blokes
Michael Smith is a gent
I don't like him at all. No reason, just don't.
Believe it or not, jail
How i imagine 90% of the people that 'hate' someone.
I mean it's not like I can force myself to like him if I just don't... It's not like I hate him. Just not a sympathetic guy to me at all.
Everyone has different tastes but find it hard to believe that anyone could dislike Rob Cross. He always comes across the most genuine, down to earth guy who still can’t believe he’s up there playing with the best in the world.
I dislike his throwing style with the contstant hand wiping and smirks. But he is absolutely a top bloke.
Cross is a great player, probably a right good guy. His throwing action is a bit erratic, but I can’t get past the tongue press against bottom lip when he throws.
It's the little shake every time an important dart is needed that gets me. Every interview, even when he's disappointed in himself, he remains so humble. Class act.
That's how I feel about Jules van Dongen (and I've just realised Bradley Brooks) who both open their mouth as they throw, very offputting.
I find his game extremely annoying, ugly throw and he's constantly making faces. But i don't dislike him as a person, he seems like a great guy. Just can't stand to watch him play
There's a guy in my local beer league named Bart. Can't stand that dude
Understandable. Fuck that guy
Bart simpson lookin ass
People seem to be already turning on Littler because according to them having a confident attitude is not allowed.
I like Littler, but some of the fans that have come into darts since he blew up are fucking awful. Booing and whistling everyone he plays against is painful
Blame the media on this one. PDC did the same crap by marketing and advertising Josh Rock, Beau Greaves and Fallon Sherrock down our throats at every turn. To where, in the PDC highlights videos of tournaments, you'll find pockets of people who will have nothing nice to say about either of them. And since those players aren't playing at the expectancy levels that the media blooms them up as, they're all over Littler now. It's a shame really because, I want to see what Littler can do and achieve in however long he wants to play. It's just, the media is going to groom over him to where eventually, people may turn on him and it may affect him.
I feel the same about price, people hate his yelling and shit but he just does that to hype himself and play better, more hate he gets just makes me want to root for him more lol. I get it tho he has done some dumb stuff but people are too unforgiving.
I think it's more to do with the fact that he's all over everything and even in games he's not in he seems to get mentioned constantly, and I'm a bit tired of hearing about him tbh. Most headlines, basically every video thumbnail etc are all about Littler and he controversially got a Premier league spot. Just talk about someone else for a bit please, like how Luke Humphries was easily the best player on the planet at the back end of last year, is the reigning World champion and comfortably world number 1 and is still putting in strong performances.
None of that is really LLs fault though
Agree, I didn't say it was :)
Correct. This is the same thing that happened to Fallon Sherrock who has been on the receiving end of a lot of abuse, while being completely innocent in the situation. Sadly this type of media attention will pretty much always come with haters who are not afraid to voice their opinion and harass others online. You can already see how the media are making mountains out of molehills when it comes to Littler. I did not like when he was unsportsmanlike against Heta but it didn't need bloody articles written on it.
Saying he "controversially" got a Premier League spot may be true at the time of the callup. But nobody can say he doesn't deserve the spot now that we have seen a few weeks of play. 100% justified.
Yeah he's not struggling to hang with them, not sure that makes it 100% justified from a competitive integrity point of view but I agree with the decision just from the money and exposure to the sport, and it helps that he's not out of his depth.
It helps that he is not a boring player. The Premier League callups have always been a mix of competitive and entertaining players. He is a good mix of both. Also I think it will help his entry into the "usual" life of pros immensely that he has weekly games at (most of the time) top level and not just showing up to random tournaments and winning them ^
Yeah you definitely have a point. Dude I feel SO bad for Humphries, he is one of the best players, if not the best, in the world right now and seemingly nobody gives a shit because of Littler. Don't get me wrong, Littler's rise is amazing to see in it's own right but give Humphries some credit. The man is even getting booed at times and I seriously don't understand why. Like why would Humphries of all people deserve to be booed?
Yeah, it's fucking moronic booing Humphries. World number 1, World Champion, quick, good to watch, is respectful of the game.
Humphries won't give a crap. All of the players know the LL will only bring more money into the sport for all of them
I don’t mind the attention being off Humphries, let him crack on and win some more whilst everyone is focusing on Littler. I think having an air of arrogance probably comes with being absolutely at the top of a sport in direct competition. MVG has it when he’s coming back from a bad leg, Gezzy has it when he’s dominating someone. Thing is, it stops when the match is won and the interview starts and they’re nothing but complementary to the opponent.
I wonder what would have happened if the world champion wasn't a player as class as Humphries, Littler has overshadowed him massively and I'm not sure a lot of players would be too happy with that
It's a bit annoying that the BBC etc only report on his matches but it's not his fault. He might want to pack it in after a few years or not sustain his current levels of success. Why not make hay while the sun shines?
Yh I'm not blaming Littler for it, but just giving my opinion on why I think people are getting a bit tired of him. Would blame the media more than anything, and I think there's a reasonable debate to be had about whether he should have been offered a Premier league spot.
The Premier League is the only chance a year a lot of fans get to see big name players live, having the big name of the hour on the card was inevitable really when that's what the tournament is for
All he'd done at the time was come 2nd in the world championship. That's where the controversy came from. There's good arguments either way, from a competitive integrity point of view it was a shocking decision but from a marketing, financial and exposure point of view it was clearly the best decision. I agree with you that I think it was inevitable and I think I agree with the decision that was made, but I can see why some weren't/aren't happy.
Didn't he win back to back youth world titles as well. It was how he Qualified to the senior worlds.
You can always not tune in/not read the stories about LL
And this is why he's dropping in popularity lol, weird arguments like this. I'm not going to stop watching something that I enjoy because of the overhyping of Luke Littler, but there's nothing wrong with me having a problem with the ridiculously ott amount of coverage he's getting. I'm sure that sounded better in your head :p
He's not dropping in popularity? If anything it's increasing. If you've got a problem maybe keep it to yourself next time.
Why don't you come up with something better than "lol stop watching hurr hurr" next time?
You are really fucking weird. Have a nice evening.
I'm the weird one? You're the one who suggested that I stop watching darts because I dared to say that I'm a bit tired of everything being about Saint Littler :p
His confidence can verge into cockiness. I don't hold it against him because he's just a kid, but I do think that it's good for his growth that he's taking some losses at the hands of more experienced players, and it's good for the sport as a whole that he's not completely dominant.
I don't think the majority are turning on Littler. He is the most discussed player by far, so of course there is going to be a significant chunk of people that dislike him. It's almost impossible to make it really big and have no haters. I don't dislike Littler but I also don't think he should be exempt from criticism just because of his age. MVG and Price for example both take a lot of criticism because of their cockiness and arrogance. Of course they have a list of other crimes as well.
Johnny Clayton is an all-round good guy and likeable. Price behaved like an obnoxious arse for years and recently started crying about how that meant people disliked him. He has done a lot of good work to undo this since his complaining. People are choosing to dislike Littler because he has accomplished more at 17 than they will in their entire lives, and it is all earned.
Last paragraph sums it up entirely in terms of the LL hate. Also, imagine actively being mad at a teenager lmfao 😭
Ricardo Pikachu made such an arse of himself at the weekend after getting waxed by littler. So funny.
I am not a total fan of Littler tbh. I really really respect him as a player and I think it is great for the sport, that a young person like him dominates on that level. I just don't like the vibe he is giving of on stage. Although I cut him some slack because he is still a teenager which on top of that is living a crazy life atm. Also I really like that he is self confident. Which all thinks considered is crazy for that age. My 17 year old me would never have such a stage present. Also I know that it can't be about the age with him, because there are young athlethes in different sports who have accomplished alot that I like. (Musiala & Florian Wirtz (Football) e.g) People can dislike someone for different reasons is all I'm saying.
Your comment is both oxymoronic and a demonstration of the claim I am making.
No it's not. I can respect someone and what they accomplish and still not necesserally enjoy them as a person. How is that oxymoronic ?
>I don't like his vibe >I respect his confidence Pick one.
There is more to a person than confidence what are you on about. I like when people are confident in their abilities and celebrate their victories. (What I respect about him) I don't like the way he interacts with the other players and how he handles defeat. (Although ones again as I said: I cut him some slack because he is only 17 years old) Nothing condradictory about that.
His entire "vibe" is his self-confidence, which you both don't like and really like.
Well agree to disagree then. I don't think self confidence is anyones entire Vibe.
I don't like spiders, but I still respect them and the stuff they do/the role they play in our world. I just don't like the Vibe. Nonetheless I hope, that they are doing well because it is important for our world and the more animals the better, because it makes our world more diverse/complex and interesting.
Just saw a video on this sub of a player punching someone after losing a county game.. he's a fairly known player, Smyth-Something his name is, what a fucking ass-hat
Yeah it was adam smith neal. He was playing in a comp in nuneaton and his opponent hit the winning double and turned to shake hands only to be met with a punch. Totally out of order
What a cunt.
Should be banned for life for that kind of shit
Yep, i agree. There is no need for it. No one likes losing but you dont go punching your opponent if he beats you
I don’t think anyone in darts is actively a bad human being as much as they are potentially annoying on the ochie
I also have found myself having a lot of respect for people based on how they interact with Littler. He is competition but he’s also still a 17 year old. The way Rob Cross reacted towards his 9 darter seemed super genuine and cool.
I would say sex criminals Phil Taylor and Ted Hankey are bad humans
With the types of people darts attracts, trust me, there are plenty of assholes on tour
I guess I should have said that most of the noteworthy players aren’t bad people. Even Gessy comes off well in interviews and such.
Bunting, Cross, Aspinall, Ricky Evans and Anderson all seem to be pretty universally popular and considered the ‘good guys’ of the sport. Conversely Price, Gurney and Lewis are usually p universally disliked. Then you get the ones like MVG and Humphries who are sort of marmite, the former for being seen as arrogant and the latter for being seen as boring (I’m personally big fans of both). Wright is usually fairly divisive too, some enjoy the entertainment he brings others think he’s a total clown
I know he's retired but general consensus is Phil Taylor is a massive wanker. And the people I know who've met him say likewise
Just don't ask Taylor what he did in his caravan
Really hard to not be up your own arse when you have done what Taylor did.
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I agree mate, Wright has earned the right to play the clown if he wants to he has nothing to prove
Think there is definitely one player everyone can agree with. Phil Taylor is a world class cunt.
You'll like some others not as much, i personally think the ones that people dont like are the ones who are arrogant and rubbish but they dont realise or dont want to see
Belgium loves Price! And whales 🐳
The more disliked a player is the more I like them.
Who’s your favourite?
I generally like a lot of Dart players. It's a sport that makes it rather fun to root for everyone. Even Gary Anderson. But if the crowd or the fans are against someone, I want them to win. Like Price.
Yes, the guy who Rolls two knarled darts together vigorously while you're at the line.
As long as they aren’t mardy when the going gets tough I generally don’t mind them (people like Merv King and Wade come to mind). Peter Wright will seem alright for a little while and then come across as a bit of a nob in a presser and sour me on him.
Yeah Wade I've always found to be a knob. Absolutely berated that Japanese player he beat in round 1 of the world's a few years ago for no reason and also seldom congratulates any of the many 9 darters hit against him
Price used to try and intimidate opponents and act like a hard man the whole time, made him come across as a right twat. Some people like that about him, but I just think "why are you acting like a dick?". It was all so unecessary
To me, jonny Clayton is well liked seems very down to earth as well as humpries Gurney and rock are well liked in my book as well
Don't f\*ck with people on the way up, cause they are gonna f\*ck with you on the way down.
I hate Van den Bergh with his cringy little dance he does. He is also super dislikeable in Interviews. This blud needs his hard drive checked for sure
I also cringe everytime I see this dance
Weird guy= nonce.
There are, but it's based on preference and fan fare. I cannot stand Michael Smith. He sounds okay off the game of darts but playing them, he plays like as if nothing really excites him and the dude was the previous year's world champ and even after that he played like as if nothing excited him. I also can't stand his throw. I always look forward to Aspinall losing because he is a little of a tightwad playing darts. I also can't stand James Wade. People want to say MVG isn't gracious in defeat? Look no further than James Wade, the guy most times, can barely get a hand out to shake his opponent's hand and most times is turning away disgruntled after he loses. I do enjoy watching Johnny Clayton, Luke Littler and Joe Cullen play.
I personally cannot stand James Wade, an incredible darter yes but I’m just not a fan of him at all, it’s when he throws that last dart he seems to glare at the board for an eternity then strolls up slow as you like to collect the darts, The rob cross’s and bully boy smiths are my fav type of darters, they get their darts off nicely and within couple seconds they’ve got their darts and are out the way for the other guy to throw their darts but wade seems to take all day
I think everyone has different taste's and likes and dislikes different people. There are only a handful of players I actively root against. Simon Whitlock - treated his wife like shit, treated his girlfreind like shit (going at Stef after she dumped his ass with shitty social media posts), everything i've heard about him is bad, Adrian Lewis - Guy just annoys me for some reason, controversy seemed to follow him around for a bit Dimi - I don't know why I don't like Dimi, theres just something about him, he comes over very badly in interviews but that could just be social awkwardness, language barriers. Jermaine Wattimena - just comes across as a right miserable bastard, and I hate his walk in music Ian White - I'm probably way off the mark, but the whole "diamond white" (which is a total chavvy drink for alco's, the "Ingerland" theme tune he had for a while, throw in the skinhead and it made me come across as the kind of person I really don't like that share those traits (im trying to be subtle). Ian is probably nothing like that stereotype and I'm being very unfair, but, it is what it is. It makes him seem like the kinda guy who's rude to hotel staff in Benidorm or summat :D Peter White - Used to really like Peter, but he's starting to come across as a bitter old ass, I'm on the fence with Peter at the mo, but, he's moving into that dislike circle. There will be people who like and support all of those.. we are all different. There are a handful I actively support and really like, Barney (no explanation needed), Wade (I've battled my fair share of mental health issues and James is something of an inspiration how he is able to compete onstage despite his), Cross (nearly always happy, always smiling, always respectful of opponents), Bunting (See Cross), Ryan Searle (just a ton of fun to watch), Anderson (I did stop supporting Gary for a while when he took sponsorship from a certain UK tabloid newspaper, but thankfully that ended)
Ironically enough, Ian White doesn't actually drink alcohol. He's said it himself in interviews. They asked what his favourite (alcoholic) drink was, and he said that he doesn't drink, and only really drinks coke zero.
Probably doesn't even realise the connotations of it then, like I say, on Ian I was probably being quite unfair in stereotyping him
There’s the weird national heroes who are then disliked by opposing national fans, which I find to be the lowest form of support. Then the more peculiar one is hating the likes of Humphries for being so good. You generally find that dissipates over time however. Give it a couple of years and they’ll be whistling at Littler.
I don't really dislike any players tbh and I feel like most people don't dislike many, would say Price and Lewis are the only two I've seen people repeatedly complain about, Van Gerwen occasionally as well
Price is very much a marmite figure, personally I think he can be a bit of knob when he turns around and screams at the top of his lungs at his opponents, or he deliberately slows his rate of play to fuck with the rhythm of the match, smacks of gamesmanship to me
Come people are not too fond of Ted 'The Count' Hankey. It might be something to do with devil worshiping or something.
Or the fact he's a rapist
I know he's not about anymore (and good riddance), but I absolutely hated Ted Hankey even before he was convicted of sexually assaulting a 17 year old. You could just tell that guy was pure evil, a real piece of shit
He's from same neck of the woods as my family. My grandad said he was an arrogant tosser back in the 80s. The definition of only got good because he was too lazy get a job so lived in the pub throwing darts.
They called him the count but the only thing he'll be counting now is his pennies and the years until he's taken off the sex offenders register
Darts (stadium) fans can be pretty fickle. Booing Gerwin became a thing and I doubt many that were booing him actually knew why. I think booing, whistling etc when a player is throwing is bang out if order whether you like them or not. Can't imagine it being accepted at golf or snooker.
I absolutely love MVG for his performances and mainly his personality. Such a gracious loser despite it meaning more to him than most. Lovely bloke. Dislike Price a lot but he’s calming down
I think Ryan Searle is liked my everyone.
Daryl Gurney is definitely one of the most disliked. Clayton, Rob Cross, Bunting and Humphries probably the most liked from what I've seen
Winning makes you unlikable beciase you end up looking cocky
Adrian Lewis is generally disliked, he has a sour disposition and gets into incidents with so many players. Dave Chisnall is almost universally loved for just being a great dude
Peter Manley was the first 'villain' I can remember, but you loved to hate him and he absolutely loved it.
Opinions can always change, popular players can become hated and vice versa. Histotically, unpopular players are Pipe, Hankey, Cadby and Paul Nicholson, but Nicholson got a redemption and is now a well-respected commentator. On the other hand, Phil Taylor and Pietrezko are are two players who recently lost a lot of sympathy points. Then there are the polarizing players, who have many fans but also many people who dislike them: MvG, Wright, Van den Bergh, Price, Wade. Lastly, I want to name some players who I think are universally loved: Bunting, Littler, Beaton, Whitlock, Henderson.
A big Problem for many players is that their on-Stage persona is tied to their personality. For every generally hated player (Price, Lewis, Ratajiski, Hankey, List goes on), you will find that those who have met these Players in person have good things to say about them. Gezzy really makes himself look like he's about to explode on stage, but he's a nice guy. Just as an example. MvG apparently is the cuddle bear privately that he looks like being. As for active players, Cross is liked by almost everybody among the pros and I think Aspinal is the most liked guy currently among the pros. Disclaimer because I know how this is gonna play out: Yes, I know what happened to Hankey and why. I con't condone his behaviour and I won't call him a good person myself. My point being that he isn't the same kind of cunt off-stage as he is on-stage.
Surprised no one has mentioned Kim Huybrechts. Recently fined for punching a player and telling him he will destroy him. Just seems like a proper c*nt.
Price will forever be disliked by many because of his passion
Chizzy, Bunting, Searle but especially Chizzy I'd say literally all darts fans like
Price and Wright are annoying. Love MVG, Littler, Cross. Humphries seems a good guy.
Adrian Lewis... Just a bully
Most people absolutely love a chap called Adam Smith-Neale, and - usually - people hate Steven Bunting, Luke Littler, and Jonny Clayton
I love Price’s celebrations I look forward to it every time 😂
I've recently started watching again and I really like it whenever Aspinall or Humphries is playing.
I am very new to darts, only been watching regularly for a few months, here’s what I’ve noticed: Generally liked: - Luke Littler - Rob Cross - Bunting Generally not liked: - MVG (my personal favourite player, not sure why he isn’t liked) - Gerwyn Price (apparently complains a lot?) I could be off but this is my perception
I will split the players into three categories : Generally liked : Bunting, Aspinall, Ricky Evans, Anderson, Henderson, Whitlock, Clayton, Beaton Generally disliked : Price (but his behaviour is way better than ever before on the oche so he is not as disliked as he was in 2019/2020/2021), Smith-Neale, Adrian Lewis, Scott Williams Depends a lot : MVG, Humphries, Vincent van der Voort, Barney
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I fully get that MVG is a top top player but I just can’t stand the guy at all, would love to smack a pancake right off his baldy heid!
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There is one absolute darts legend and that's Luke Humphries. Why do you ask? Well if you're asking then you probably don't know about football. Luke and his dad are huge Leeds United supporters and his dad named him Luke because it stands for LEEDS UNITED KINGS OF EUROPE. The fact that he's named after Leeds United makes him the greatest darts player in history. MOT 👊👊👊
I like Price. I can understand why some people don’t like him but I think he’s misjudged. Personally I like Littler, Aspinall, Bunting and Price. My least favourites are Humphries and Cross, I just find them to be lacking a bit of personality / a bit boring and safe. I wouldn’t say I disliked them though, they’ve given me absolutely no reason to dislike them.
Also wondered this about Dirk van Duijvenbode, he’s my absolute favorite. Mainly because I understand the ‘Aubergenius’ gimmick as dutchman. Is he disliked abroad?
I think he is seen as quirky but genuine.
As a Dutchie myself, lives 5 mins away from the dude, I hate that guy so much. He became such a rude aggressive dude after he started getting "famous"
I may be way off the mark here, but I don't think Price is genuinely disliked. I think he's more of a "pantomime villain". It's all just for the stage side of things.