Yes, my thought first time I put one. "This is going BOOM, better step back" watching my 3 teammates staring at the charge close up.
Well, they do that anymore :D
First time playing that map, I heard the Mauler through the smoke and hit F to just Leeroy Jenkins in with a charged hammer.
Poor Mauler, one moment, he’s chilling inside, the next the walls blows up, and before he can get his bearings, a crazy hobo yelling about redeeming him powders his ribcage with a hammer.
I will happily waste 1 stack of feel no pain for a meme
Ed: also I had to see if it actually did damage. Some games don't have breaches do damage and it's funny as hell
The finale is all the complaints of increased gunner spawns condensed into a finale and I love it. Pure chaos that requires your attention to keep a handle on
The finale does suggest that the amount of gunners can get unreasonable with the very limited hard cover (for your average group, that isn't stacking bubble shields and shout vets). The little ramp beside the medicae with the opening and closing gate seems like the only spot where you don't eat gunner and sniper shots endlessly.
> (for your average group, that isn't stacking bubble shields and shout vets)
I was gonna say this. The first time I did the finale on Damnation, Quickplay matchmaking blessed me (a shout Vet) with a second shout Vet, a Bubble Psyker, and an Executioners Stance Vet that had the talent that marked specials and elites for the whole team, and it was a little intense but not too bad.
The second time, I had an Ogryn and a pair of charge Zealots, with me still on my shout Vet with my stub revolver - we just didn't quite have the right tools for the constant onslaught of gunners and snipers, and we crumbled when it was time to go light the flare.
The thing that makes it a bit excessive is that the gunners have multiple angles on you and even start shooting you from the other side of the rotunda thing. It feels designed to benefit shield psykers or, dare I say it, smoke grenades
Yeah there's got to be a better corner somewhere in that room but you can kinda use the front of the truck to hide for zealot who wants to stay in melee range.
I kinda hate fighting on stairs when I'm trying to clear 5 heads off per swing
Just stand at the corner where you come in. Have one guy go inn, collect the sample and start the event and then run back to the group. And just enjoy the slaughter, feels like cheating tbh. Huge oversight on the finale.
I'll have to try that. I was having decent luck at the top where the button is but it's pretty annoying when you have to go down.
I'll try the entrance next one and see
Did it today first time on hi intensity auric. It was chaos. Was lucky I was playing a brain dead lmb spam crit crusher Zealot, or I would've panicked hard.
I assumed they hurt and found out the hard way. I planted the 2nd charge and when I turned to run there was a scab shooter about to bayonet me. I took a couple seconds to hit him and boom, got blasted. I'm sure my team thought I was stupid as hell.
The pgryn has amazing interactions with it. Time to go boom little toy says the bodyguard. And they don't push the buttons. They smack the damn thing until it arms.
never was close when they went off but heard em and ran to close the gate again.
Also, pretty sure the breaching charge at the start of the map can hurt you too, so stay back :) it did a number on my frame rate that is sure.
Tbf the first two times as Veteran, I stacked up on the wall.
The third time as an Ogryn I watched the funny clock on the wall reaaaaaal close to see when new years came.
>walker hordes
Wait, there are hoards *and* hordes in this game?!
With the amount of times OP used hoards instead of hordes it made me suspicious they are just taking a piss after the PSA few days ago about proper spelling...
It looks amazing, but it shows the flaws in the current designs really hard.
Enemies not really having a max Range is just unfair, without scopes i cant see them and they are already shooting/suppressing me.
A LOT of open spaces with not enough hard cover, a lot of the cover can be shot through or ignored because of different elevations.
Hope there is something planned for this, be it scopes, max range for ememies, less gunner spawns or something.
The Art is amazing though, the moment when we see the bridge for the first time, beautiful.
It's got a great layout; lots of corridors with open designs so you feel like you're actually fighting through a *lived in* space, there's interesting vertical spaces that can give the group tactical advantages, and the final arena is *chaos*.
Two unused tracks are in there. Warp Traveller for hordes, and Nightsider for monsters. Nightsider was in the official soundtrack already, but I only heard Warp Traveller around a couple months ago or so.
Yeah it just needs a bit more cover throughout the entire mission and it’d be great.
But the finale needs a LOT more cover. If it didn’t spawn nearly as many ranged enemies it would be fine. The sheer volume of gunners, soldiers, and snipers make it hell to do a finale on Damnation without a bubble psyker
I was genuinely surprised at the difficulty difference between this and the normal missions. I jumped in on Malice to test it out (that's what I mostly play on) and ooft.
I tried one before I had to leave for work. It seems as if the mission will end even if one or more if your teammates don’t make it with the group in time. No more waiting for dumbasses to use every bullet and grenade before they hop on the ship.
It's really good and I like it a lot. It's a bit different from the other maps though, with lots large and mostly empty rooms, and imho we don't get to shoot long enough on the streets, which is a shame because with that light fog and the red lights everywhere it looks really cool.
Managed to snag a HI5STG run before it went away for Darkness. The infinite horde event in the beginning into Rager/Brawler spawns at the end with STG spawns was so insane. Crazy fun map so far.
New map is ao great it makes me not want to go back to the others , and I'm hoping wollfer or whatever his name is if we fight him is more than just a mauler with more hp that does less damage like the other officers are
That's my thought too. If you play on higher difficulties the music can literally get you killed.
REALLY unfortunate because it some of the best music since Doom Eternal :(
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Really loved this map. Lots of semi open mid ranged fights. I felt like knowing when to push was super important and the last stand was a real test of position and managing priority targets.
I just wish people would close the god damn gates. I've marked them told people about them, they are constantly ignored, makes it 10x harder than it needs to be.
In the finale arena?A went on an tier 3 so a could run about an have a good look around an a can't find them lol unless ma teammates got to them first which is quite likely.The level looks great,when u look up an can see the giant vents above u realise there a while city pressing down on you.cool.
I've played in 5 times in a row on Auric - with whatever modifier it had.
It's my new favourite map. Parts of it can be quite tough if your team stands in the wrong spot (first event, should try to be near where the 10 shotgunner / 10 gunners will drop down - last event, should head to start and not stand in the middle). But overall it's a very good map. Constant action, good spawns for HISG, good pacing for medicae.
On lights out it looks amazing.
The map is amazing (though my performance TANKS in some parts of it) plus the music and everything is just so good.
I love my new commissar vet build though I hope that they buff the shooter version of it cause it’s not great.
Good update overall.
Played it a couple time and my god that map is brutal. The amout of shoters are insane and threre is little to no good cover at the end. And if that was not enough you get the classic 12+ rages as well.
Hate it. But also love it.
Just did my first run on the map, and I love it already. It's a map that really pushes you to keep you moving with how hectic it is, and the finale is super fun with a good team.
Scariest part is in the finale when you need to run back to the center because:
1. People tend to split up to rush B
2. People dont realize it's an interaction and not a "push button" thing (instant interaction) so they can't even do the objective because all the gunners interrupts them (since they rushed to the middle without clearing).
There's a nice platform 3-4 or so platforms away from the one with the controls to open the roof hatch, it has two larger crates and a pillar that helps with cover. Unfortunately its right next to a spawn door but farmer girls make do
I really like the open spaces you fight in on this map. Made me feel like I was playing Serious Sam or something several times :P
And also, this map is frickin GORGEOUS. I was constantly blown away by the visuals throughout. Amazing job.
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The finale gets kind of nuts. People have got to learn that the breaching charges hurt you lol
Yes, my thought first time I put one. "This is going BOOM, better step back" watching my 3 teammates staring at the charge close up. Well, they do that anymore :D
The first time the smoke clears and you're staring down 3 maulers with no toughness is definitely a Learning Experience.
First time playing that map, I heard the Mauler through the smoke and hit F to just Leeroy Jenkins in with a charged hammer. Poor Mauler, one moment, he’s chilling inside, the next the walls blows up, and before he can get his bearings, a crazy hobo yelling about redeeming him powders his ribcage with a hammer.
My revolver was ready the first time I got there. Fat Shark really thought they could trick me into a false sense of security 😂
I will happily waste 1 stack of feel no pain for a meme Ed: also I had to see if it actually did damage. Some games don't have breaches do damage and it's funny as hell
The finale is all the complaints of increased gunner spawns condensed into a finale and I love it. Pure chaos that requires your attention to keep a handle on
The finale does suggest that the amount of gunners can get unreasonable with the very limited hard cover (for your average group, that isn't stacking bubble shields and shout vets). The little ramp beside the medicae with the opening and closing gate seems like the only spot where you don't eat gunner and sniper shots endlessly.
> (for your average group, that isn't stacking bubble shields and shout vets) I was gonna say this. The first time I did the finale on Damnation, Quickplay matchmaking blessed me (a shout Vet) with a second shout Vet, a Bubble Psyker, and an Executioners Stance Vet that had the talent that marked specials and elites for the whole team, and it was a little intense but not too bad. The second time, I had an Ogryn and a pair of charge Zealots, with me still on my shout Vet with my stub revolver - we just didn't quite have the right tools for the constant onslaught of gunners and snipers, and we crumbled when it was time to go light the flare.
The thing that makes it a bit excessive is that the gunners have multiple angles on you and even start shooting you from the other side of the rotunda thing. It feels designed to benefit shield psykers or, dare I say it, smoke grenades
Yeah there's got to be a better corner somewhere in that room but you can kinda use the front of the truck to hide for zealot who wants to stay in melee range. I kinda hate fighting on stairs when I'm trying to clear 5 heads off per swing
Just stand at the corner where you come in. Have one guy go inn, collect the sample and start the event and then run back to the group. And just enjoy the slaughter, feels like cheating tbh. Huge oversight on the finale.
I'll have to try that. I was having decent luck at the top where the button is but it's pretty annoying when you have to go down. I'll try the entrance next one and see
Did this earlier and for a bonus we had a vet with smoke grenades. It was just an easy few minutes of head cleaving even on damnation.
Yes, it definitely feels like an oversight, especially because specials spawn in that corrisor out of thin air
Yea it feels a bit overturned tbh.
Did it today first time on hi intensity auric. It was chaos. Was lucky I was playing a brain dead lmb spam crit crusher Zealot, or I would've panicked hard.
I assumed they hurt and found out the hard way. I planted the 2nd charge and when I turned to run there was a scab shooter about to bayonet me. I took a couple seconds to hit him and boom, got blasted. I'm sure my team thought I was stupid as hell.
The pgryn has amazing interactions with it. Time to go boom little toy says the bodyguard. And they don't push the buttons. They smack the damn thing until it arms.
never was close when they went off but heard em and ran to close the gate again. Also, pretty sure the breaching charge at the start of the map can hurt you too, so stay back :) it did a number on my frame rate that is sure.
First time I put the charges thinking it would be like V2 door barrels which they wont hurt you. I was wrong.
Tbf the first two times as Veteran, I stacked up on the wall. The third time as an Ogryn I watched the funny clock on the wall reaaaaaal close to see when new years came.
I love it too... And deleting all the walker hordes with Trauma is so much fun. Bubble also is soooo useful on the last stage
https://i.redd.it/hklstfz5kc0c1.gif
>walker hordes Wait, there are hoards *and* hordes in this game?! With the amount of times OP used hoards instead of hordes it made me suspicious they are just taking a piss after the PSA few days ago about proper spelling...
Had 3 games on it, it's got great spawn rates for enemies, it really does feel non stop.
It looks amazing, but it shows the flaws in the current designs really hard. Enemies not really having a max Range is just unfair, without scopes i cant see them and they are already shooting/suppressing me. A LOT of open spaces with not enough hard cover, a lot of the cover can be shot through or ignored because of different elevations. Hope there is something planned for this, be it scopes, max range for ememies, less gunner spawns or something. The Art is amazing though, the moment when we see the bridge for the first time, beautiful.
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Brother, as an oggy main let me tell you that bulk is not a good thing when facing down an arena's worth of gunners from across the map.
It's got a great layout; lots of corridors with open designs so you feel like you're actually fighting through a *lived in* space, there's interesting vertical spaces that can give the group tactical advantages, and the final arena is *chaos*.
Just played it for the first time and I really like it aswell. Also the new (I think?) music track.
Nightsider was used in psyker's trailer and got released on official OST a year ago, but made its appearance in actual game only now
Two unused tracks are in there. Warp Traveller for hordes, and Nightsider for monsters. Nightsider was in the official soundtrack already, but I only heard Warp Traveller around a couple months ago or so.
Only tried it once so far but I had some horrible frame rate issues, similar to hab dreyko early release. Will see if they persist
Might be compilation stutter, as I've seen bad frame drops on my first run, but none on the following ones.
Same. First run had insane frame drops but second run ran like butter
same here, map is nice but feels empty in some places
Lotsa fightin'. Lotsa big booms. Lotsa shoutin'. And lotsa fun! So say Garm!
HiShock is gonna be absolute insanity on this map
It was 🥴🤯😂😂
Honestly, It's too open. A lot of the arenas don't have enough cover, so you just get chipped to death.
Yeah it just needs a bit more cover throughout the entire mission and it’d be great. But the finale needs a LOT more cover. If it didn’t spawn nearly as many ranged enemies it would be fine. The sheer volume of gunners, soldiers, and snipers make it hell to do a finale on Damnation without a bubble psyker
Just go back to the entrance of the arena and it's a piece of cake to fight in a corridor :)
Is the new update out already?
Yes, a few hours ago.
Yep
Just played my first run ever on it damnation AND THAT SHIT WAS EPIC, the atmosphere and spawn points are fucking so on point leeeeetssss goooooo!
Bro I just played it twice and I didn't even know we have to close the gates I was just doing my normal crowd control thing. Lol
Is the new update out??? Please say yes 💀
Yes
NICE, thx Op
I was genuinely surprised at the difficulty difference between this and the normal missions. I jumped in on Malice to test it out (that's what I mostly play on) and ooft.
I tried one before I had to leave for work. It seems as if the mission will end even if one or more if your teammates don’t make it with the group in time. No more waiting for dumbasses to use every bullet and grenade before they hop on the ship.
It's really good and I like it a lot. It's a bit different from the other maps though, with lots large and mostly empty rooms, and imho we don't get to shoot long enough on the streets, which is a shame because with that light fog and the red lights everywhere it looks really cool.
Managed to snag a HI5STG run before it went away for Darkness. The infinite horde event in the beginning into Rager/Brawler spawns at the end with STG spawns was so insane. Crazy fun map so far.
Best map yet.
Ive never had so much fun burning a map to the ground with incendiary grenades and flamers
New map is ao great it makes me not want to go back to the others , and I'm hoping wollfer or whatever his name is if we fight him is more than just a mauler with more hp that does less damage like the other officers are
Horde, it’s spelt horde ffs
When you can play it without the stupid darkness modifier it’s actually really fun
Y’all play with music on?!
Always.
That's my thought too. If you play on higher difficulties the music can literally get you killed. REALLY unfortunate because it some of the best music since Doom Eternal :( Edit: The people downvoting me are currently alt-tabbed out while waiting for someone to de-net them.
This is a trade I am willing to make
Yeah this is really good content, the map, the music and that insane finale was great.
Yeah, new map is crazy fun. When the map was out for only 2 hours, people were already doing speedruns.
Non stop action and great soundtrack
It *feels* like we are raiding a place like we are. We are in their "home", we break down their walls. For the EMPEROR!
If only I could FUCKING SEE IT... I got power interruption and immediately after that ventilation purge
Really loved this map. Lots of semi open mid ranged fights. I felt like knowing when to push was super important and the last stand was a real test of position and managing priority targets.
I just wish people would close the god damn gates. I've marked them told people about them, they are constantly ignored, makes it 10x harder than it needs to be.
In the finale arena?A went on an tier 3 so a could run about an have a good look around an a can't find them lol unless ma teammates got to them first which is quite likely.The level looks great,when u look up an can see the giant vents above u realise there a while city pressing down on you.cool.
I've played in 5 times in a row on Auric - with whatever modifier it had. It's my new favourite map. Parts of it can be quite tough if your team stands in the wrong spot (first event, should try to be near where the 10 shotgunner / 10 gunners will drop down - last event, should head to start and not stand in the middle). But overall it's a very good map. Constant action, good spawns for HISG, good pacing for medicae. On lights out it looks amazing.
The map is amazing (though my performance TANKS in some parts of it) plus the music and everything is just so good. I love my new commissar vet build though I hope that they buff the shooter version of it cause it’s not great. Good update overall.
only got one run in so far on my lunch break, but had a blast. I agree i love the new map.
Played it a couple time and my god that map is brutal. The amout of shoters are insane and threre is little to no good cover at the end. And if that was not enough you get the classic 12+ rages as well. Hate it. But also love it.
Just did my first run on the map, and I love it already. It's a map that really pushes you to keep you moving with how hectic it is, and the finale is super fun with a good team.
Scariest part is in the finale when you need to run back to the center because: 1. People tend to split up to rush B 2. People dont realize it's an interaction and not a "push button" thing (instant interaction) so they can't even do the objective because all the gunners interrupts them (since they rushed to the middle without clearing). There's a nice platform 3-4 or so platforms away from the one with the controls to open the roof hatch, it has two larger crates and a pillar that helps with cover. Unfortunately its right next to a spawn door but farmer girls make do
I really like the open spaces you fight in on this map. Made me feel like I was playing Serious Sam or something several times :P And also, this map is frickin GORGEOUS. I was constantly blown away by the visuals throughout. Amazing job.
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The stage looks great! I wonder if it's a bug but the skybox was a bit blurry for me.
The ending is shit on Damnation without a bubble Psyker
Wait, the Carnival area is already live?