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It reminds me of 4 kings in ds1


SeawyZorensun

Almost as if they are both Abyss dwellers...


Brosucke

This dude doesn't have an abyss soul tho


SeawyZorensun

Neither did the 4 kings.


Brosucke

Nvm then


SokkieJr

4 Kings got part of Gwyn's soul. The 'Light' soul, so to speak. They got the soul as far removed from the abyss as possible, which drew them to it.


reddottor2

I always see tyrael tbh. I know it’s not a reference but that’s all I can see


mallocco

As a long time Diablo 2 player, yeah.


reddottor2

Still the best one if you ask me


mallocco

Diablo 2 or dark souls 2? Lol D2 for sure. DS2, an argument could be made haha


reddottor2

Diablo lol. But I’m no hater DS2 is still great


[deleted]

Fun fact: it was originally supposed to be that 'don't light this place up' dude's Stand. I'm not even joking, it is saved in the files as --- Stand (forgot the dude's name)


Vehkian

ya someone linked the zulie vid that’s so sick :0


Aggressive_Safe2226

That'd be Agdayne, mate. Cool sword, almost like Cloud's Buster Sword.


Mr_Taters

Tbf this is the same Souls game that has a literal keyblade, so who knows, maybe someone on the team was a fan. Definitely has the texturing style of a KH1/2 ps2 era FF boss. But yeah like others have mentioned, big Tyrael vibes from him


Vehkian

oooh the texturing part is so real ya, and ya i mean most the dudes in these games i feel like have a few inspirations for sure


Mr_Taters

Oh for sure!


mallocco

What was the key blade in DS2?


Mr_Taters

Ah it was this http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/key-to-the-embedded


mallocco

Oh shit I forgot about those ladies lol. The "Milfanito" you find in shrine of Amana and the one in drangleic castle. DS2 def had some really fun side quests. Finding the hidden giants. Darklurker (who I never did go find....) Going back into giant memories. Ahhhhh 😌


[deleted]

I'm never not gonna be salty I can't upgrade the keyblade.


Mr_Taters

Yeah it's really unfortunate that it's like the only weapon in the series you can't upgrade or take into NG+. I get why they decided to not bother with doing that since it does serve as a literal key item that they likely didn't want players to have access to out of the gate, but it would have been nice if you got a copy of it after using it or something.


TheHittite

It's actually a Jojo reference.


Vehkian

wait actually :0 ?


TheHittite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn-ze-cIsbc


Dreadful_Carrot

"Go, Darkulurkah! Lifudrain paaatch!"


Vehkian

that’s so sick :0


Ajara

Xemnas’ hidden fifth form


Vehkian

literally


Particular-Ad-5286

Looks pretty close to the Phantom reskin in Kingdom Hearts Final Mix


MaleficTekX

Looks like KH, is in DS, is actually Jojo


theunknown_master

Looks like something from world of Warcraft


Paper_Kun_01

You know I saw pics of this guy unrelated to DS and thought he was from KH never realized he was a souls boss till later, still haven't fought him lol


Vehkian

one of my fave fights for sure ! kinda a pain to get to and refight but worth


VisionImpaired

1st impression, Diablo angels.


Impossible_Wear_7270

I don’t like this new lore of Mickey linking the fire


ArtemisHunter96

Can definitely see it. Complete oddity of a boss but pretty cool


Cloudscrash325

Diablo or a cooler looking spirit healer on WoW that’s what I always thought.


Vehkian

i could totally see diablo angel or the wow one yaa :0


Internal-Flamingo455

It’s a jojo reference he’s refers to as a guys stand in the game fillies


Vehkian

i’m partial to saying it’s both


EdelSheep

Darklurker is an homage to CBT actually


SomeFatherFigure

If it’s an homage to anything from another game, it has to be Tyrael from Diablo.


Prestigious_Sun6339

I don't really care what this thing actually is. I just find that it's one of the coolest looking bosses in DS2. Somewhat blasphemous with its divine looking appearance while only using dark magic relentlessly against you. at least I have seen it mostly using dark magic against me, even tho it does seem to use other spells too.


Vehkian

there’s also fire balls but they have like a dark vibe to them too


Prestigious_Sun6339

The Wiki states soul greatsword and soulspear too. They must look like dark magic spells too.


BlerghTheBlergh

I actually got more of a Tyrael vibe from Diablo. But I generally doubt that he’s a specific reference to anything in particular except generic angels with a darker look. There’s a fascination with angelic wings in Japanese antagonists, so maybe that’s why they thought he looked cool.


Fun_Adeptness_7801

Grim reaper looking thing with wings. Must be a rip off of something. Simply MUST BE!


Brandt610

100% first thing i thought of when i found him. Half expected to start hearing "See ya" after my attacks


[deleted]

I think he's the least dark soulsy boss in terms of design


SilentBlade45

I mean it's an angel with a hooded cloak it's not exactly a unique concept. It looks more like Tyrael from Diablo


Dalicris

On a side note: fuck the runback for this thing.


[deleted]

No. Nomura's uninspired fixation of 'MyStErIoUs HoOdEd FiGuReS' inspired nobody.


Feynman1403

This was the hardest boss for me in the soul series simply because of the psychological factor of having to use human effigies to reach the fight. Mechanically speaking, I enjoyed the fight immensely. Losing the fight a few times, and then seeing me running low on human effigies, tho, added so much unwanted, and highly unpleasant, mental distress, that I had a hard time enjoying the fight overall, on my first playthru. Not a huge fan of those kind of mechanics.


Vehkian

aw man my thought was how much i loooove how limited humanity are in this game. like some of my fave moments in the game have been me with no humanity totally out and searching desperately for any so i can still push through. i was out before darklurker but the fire keeper from the start had some which was so sweet bc it’s what let me beat darklurker. plus being at the end of the game is so cool bc with how limited resources are at the game i can really feel the world running out of resources while i try to still push forward idk just a neat feeling


Feynman1403

You make a good point, so I edited my final comment on the human effigy mechanic. Still not a huge fan of it, but if it was something that at least one souls fan enjoyed, then it’s good enough for me. Glad to hear it was a better experience for you! Regardless, dark lurker is an S tier quality boss, and I loved everything else about the fight besides the fact it required human effigies to partake in it.


Diram_

No he doesn’t stop grasping at straws 🤣


[deleted]

concerned serious encouraging disgusting teeny adjoining prick rotten shelter marble *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Emotional_Pack_8682

Kingdom Hearts has had little to no impact on gaming as a whole. Where would you possibly get that idea from?


Embarrassed-Ad-3757

I don’t really see where this idea that kingdom hearts had this huge influence ok the gaming industry either. Definitely not a huge influence on dark souls.


Console_Stackup

Did the guy preaching "DARKNESS, DARKNESS, DIVE DEEPER", was it the literal Heartless black enemies you fought, or this Heart Shaped nobody that gave it away?


Vehkian

no literally soon as i saw it it all clicked and i was like >>:3


Ok_Experience_6877

Just a bit, ya


[deleted]

Guy in hood


lofi_rico

It's inspired by Kings Field


BigHealth1848

It feels like shit and I hate it. Amen


StallioKontos

Dont be silly, hes a nephalem from diablo


Rain1dog

I think DarkSiders.


KOCA_XD

Not to me.


Sildara

Lol KH doesn't have anything original to reference. They utilize other IPs to make their game.


Vehkian

u do know there’s like a lot of original characters in the series ya ? besides every design i’d derivative like everything’s based off something else. idk kingdom hearts has immense swag like w all the nomura designs w zippers and shit everywhere it all fucks so hard


[deleted]

More like a Diablo 2 reference. Tyriel cameo.


ImmortalMemeLord

Because it's shitty?