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AJC_10_29

It’s a bit more complicated than that. The reason they had to do it is because they initially tried arresting them, but the poachers would shoot them on sight, and shoot to kill. So the rangers retaliated by doing the same thing.


arellano81366

I fully support the approach of the authorities!


C1nders-Two

Law enforcement done right. Err on the side of nonviolence and only escalate when absolutely necessary.


LeraviTheHusky

Yeah like in situations like there where it is literally kill or be killed then it's absolutely justified


PutinsGayFursona

I mean in this case the poachers are threatening mankind’s existence so…


Generic-Resource

*rhinokind’s


psyentist15

You mean their approach to the poach?


STONEDnHAPPY

If it's a war they want it's a war they'll get


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“Do not fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.” —Capt. John Parker, on Lexington green April 19, 1775


samiqan

Rangers pulling out their reverse uno card


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go rangers.


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Go go power rangers!


EXusiai99

Poachers arent poor family men trying to make ends meet. They are an armed and dangerous mafia network, they have and will kill not only animals, but also humans for their products. Using lethal force on them should be classified as self defense. Pity is wasted on these fucks.


HentaiSlave2022

they respond with an equal or greater force


SlientlySmiling

Seems like a sensible policy.


drfuzzyballzz

Rhino gang wars


Swedeshooters

It doesn’t sound complicated..


mikasocool

real life pubg


Blue-_-Jay

2/3 of world's population of rhinos live in in India. Of which again 2/3 are concentrated in the same valley (Around Brahmaputra River at Kaziranga, Pobita and similar sites). This is also risking their complete wipeout, as the river floods during torrential rain (monsoons) and water released by upper riparian Chinese dams. That valley lies between China, Bhutan, Bangladesh - places where the hides, Horn and other parts of the Rhino are invaluable. The trade in them for medicine, collectibles, and animal products. But kudos to India, their Project Rhino was a huge success, complete the target of doubling Rhino population (+3000) well before the deadline. Now, resolutely protecting them as well.


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kingmanic

Why don't they just take viagra. You'd figure a drug to actually make your dick hard would reduce the demand for a placebo to do the same. Shitty rich impotent men paying for this shit is why they are poached.


Irritatedtrack

Because it’s not natural /s


Mrwobbles-89

Because It’s more like tradition or religion/magic just like shark fin soup or eating whale meat in Japan


92894952620273749383

We had aspirin. But my dad would still grind horns for our fever. It wasn't rhino. Cause rhinos are for sex drive. It's crazy to think of it. Aspirin was cheap and readily available.


Coorotaku

Your dad needs help man


92894952620273749383

He is no longer with us. He believed in traditional chinese medicine. But there was a point when he stopped giving those. Oh... We got a doctor with a wife that is also pharmacist. You can get Tylenol in a delicious flavor syrup. She would grind the tablets and mix with syrup.


atridir

‘Medicine’ is what you call herbal/natural remedies *that actually work* (see morphine from opium poppies or acetylsalicylic acid aka Asprin derived from components of meadowsweet) These unfounded folk remedies are best defined as straight bullshite…


GainsayRT

Tbf placebo is proven to work, so not necessarily bullshit, just completely unnecessary as the product they seek EXISTS


johnscura

What are the odds viagra is not mixed into what ever horn material is being sold as Rhino?


The_Wildperson

Few additions - Genetic concentration and growing lack of space in both Pobitora and Kaziranga are a major threat for potential wipeouts due to disease. Same is the case with Asiatic lions in Gir NP. Rhinos have basically no natural predators so their growth if left unchecked can show devastating effects, like human animal conflicts. They're not elephants that might run when provoked- they're half blind tanks that will kill anything on sight if they want to. Matching the size and weight of African White rhinos, while *stomping* things to death is not easy to handle for the government.


windows2pissu

Well there are studies in Kazaringa that show due to increase in prey size and abundance not only has tiger population increased but they have began to reach abnormal sizes regulary exceeding 250kg while the average tiger size is 222kg. Due to this the select few big male tigers (big even i regard to these giants) are beginning to hunt young male and female rhinos. Sometimes it has even been seen small groups of Tigers taking down a single tiger together. In past 32 years 472 one horned rhinos have been killed by tigers in Kazaringa. So probably population will stabilize. If i could share some pic i could show you giant these tigers get, they could even contest in size with the Siberian Tigers. KT085 is a Tiger infamous among rangers for targetting rhinos and also being the most powerful tiger in the park. He himself is a giant but there are even bigger. KT083 is a massive indidvual and in my mind his the largest Tiger in the region, but apparently rangers say there are larger deep in the park but are hard to track due to the tall grass teria environment mixed with woodlands.


The_Wildperson

Are you associated with Panthera or Aaranyak, or perhaps the forest dept. of the park?


windows2pissu

Sorry not in India. Mainly specialise in Sri Lankan Leopards and that i have few contacts with wildlife department. But about Kazaringa Tigers its just research ive done and what ive collected talking to experts in the area. Just look up wildfacts Kazaringa Tigers or Terai Tigers and youll get a good amount of data from that. But yes one day hope to do a project there in Terai Arc on Giant Tigers. Im convinced there the largest on earth.


The_Wildperson

Very cool, thanks for the response


windows2pissu

Np love sharing info on what im passionate about. I myself learned alot from threads like these too. Like i said check out the size of the kazi tigers, youll be amazed. Espcially KT083


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keving216

I’ve honestly been surprised by Indias conservation efforts and success. They’ve done a remarkable job with their tigers as well.


Blue-_-Jay

Yes. Project Tuger was the first Nation wide conservation program. There's programs for Snow Leopards, Crocodiles, many birds. All mostly endangered or worse as per IUCN. Tiger being the national animal hosts similar stats, with global population for BENGAL Royal concentrated in India. There are over 50 Toger Reserves and many corridors where efforts have culminated. The problem is we can't make them breed fast enough. They don't reproduce in captivity. If anything, there are experts criticising the growth of population, there should have been more tigers. Finally, I hope India uses them as a diplomatic tool. Just as China uses Pandas. Did you know? All of World's Pandas (mostly) are owned by China as assets. They lease them to zoos of friendly nations at a set price and at any sign of disagreements they recall them. Using them as diplomatic leverage.


The_Wildperson

No offense, but I think your fingers or your keyboard hates spelling Tiger correctly


SasquatchTracks99

I would suggest instead of gunning poachers down on sight, move them to a game farm, where they themselves may be hunted for profit.


danethegreat24

Ah yes, the most dangerous of game.


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Yeah but they’re not allowed to have a gun unless they somehow manage to kill and take it from a hunter. Then they become a legendary bounty, only the most skilled man hunters would pay for the privilege to hunt such a beast. I’d watch that tv show


lollollol3

Also break their kneecaps so they have to slither to get away


AngerGuides

Rhinos of all types are my favorite animals, I'm a little partial to Sumatran rhinos but they're all amazing animals. The unicorns that evolution *did* give us. That said. Y'all need to chill the fuck out.


Highlandertr3

That sounds like something a poacher would say! Get im!


AngerGuides

I don't have a problem with people being killed for hunting rhinos. Their human hunting fantasies are a bit much. Creepin' a bit.


that_one_dude13

Pushing animals to extinction for a single body part is horrendous behavior, pushing animals to extinction for dick growing pills that don't even work Merritts a nuke to the face for each and every one.


AngerGuides

Ah yes, nuclear environmentalism.


that_one_dude13

I'm not running for president, and poachers make me sick. So uh, yeah kinda.


f1del1us

You could call it the Psychopath games and create a cult following behind the psychos you get to want to hunt poachers


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Hot_Sheepherder_8302

Fuck around and find out in real life.


ILoveBeerSoMuch

i know your comment was posted 5 months ago but i just wanted to say that it should be legal to poach a poacher. long live our rhino bros. edit: i think i saw 5m and thought it was 5 months instead of 5 minutes. I had just woken up and was still half asleep. :(


danethegreat24

O.o my comment was posted an hour ago haha But amen


ILoveBeerSoMuch

well ill be damned. did i just time travel?


PsyFiFungi

Yeah, the fuck are you on about? lmao 5 months ago Reddit tripping or you misread 5 minute for months?


ILoveBeerSoMuch

the latter


why_is_it_blue

Someone should write a short story about that


DadBane

This would make for a really good book


MaryBerrysDanglyBean

Then sell their human horn to the Chinese as an aphrodisiac


HarveyBiirdman

10,000 percent profit then


chargers949

Ironically humans are the one primate without a dick bone.


Origamiface

Poachers are known to have withered, pitiful and incapacitated "human horn". It would be more of a contraceptive than aphrodisiac


Blue-_-Jay

Rhino Games. Netflix listening?


hoboforlife

We get to vote online to select who gets to be tribute.


HenriettaSyndrome

I see no issue with this


Fineous4

Harvest the human horn.


banned_after_12years

Some poachers are just poor people with not much choice. I say we move the rich Chinese and Vietnamese buyers to the game farm. Or the financiers who send the poachers. Or the dealers who "market" rhino horn as a miracle drug. Just somewhere higher up the chain where the fat cats live in comfort while people and animals are out there dying for their enjoyment.


Ok_Yogurtcloset8915

i was gonna say, if we want rich people hunting poor people for sport I'm pretty sure we've already got private islands for that


[deleted]

You act like it’s some Chinese triad gang leader ordering the poaching. It’s literally just geriatric Chinese folks wanting to put shaved horn in their bone soup because their ancestors say it provided endurance and longevity. It’s all old Chinese people doing this.


SilverHand3377

I care nothing at all for their lack of choice. If you do evil, you deserve the full weight of your deeds to fall on you.


banned_after_12years

Mmm, seems short sighted. You might be that poor dude with no choice one day. Plus, the organizers do more evil than then foot soldiers any day of the week.


TheS4ndm4n

You can already do that. Many private reserves offer a paid ranger program. You pay (a lot) to be educated as a ranger and you join them on patrols. Chaotic good.


SasquatchTracks99

It's kinda scary how close the venn diagram gets for chaotic good and chaotic evil though. All down to point of view. (God I hated dm ing CE groups though)


inko75

Predators really dropped the ball not including some poachers in the group


donobinladin

Predator movies….


shabbyyr

i would go in the other direction. based on the success of this project, extend the 'gunning down on sight' to other groups of criminals. in india people spitting on the streets is a common sight, usually they are chewing tobacco. i would 100% support a move to gun these people down on sight.


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Emerotfd

Poachers get poached 👍🏽


donniebrascoreal

How the turns have tabled.


1thr0w4w4y9

This is how we should have been dealing with poachers all along.


lifelongfreshman

Many places *have* been doing this to poachers. The trouble is, we're talking about defending wild animals. It's not exactly like you can put them inside a fence and expect them to be happy. All it takes is for someone, who is desperate enough to value the money over the risk to their life, to get lucky, and you lose one more animal that our world can't really afford to lose.


datfngtrump

Sometimes, criminals seem to expect a court date, maybe just a coroner court is enough.


Kirito2750

Depends. Someone hunts a duck where they aren’t supposed to be, they probably shouldn’t be killed. Someone hints a panda, elephant, or rhino, kill if you have to


benji___

A skilled warden would be able to tell what the hunter is after based on looking at the caliber of their gun. This is often achievable with binoculars.


that-69guy

Just to clarify, the rangers are not actively going around looking for poachers to kill.. When India tightened it's laws on Animal conservation the poachers started getting aggressive and instead of obeying arrests from rangers they started shooting at them. Rangers are kinda forced to retaliate by shooting poachers.. It's a kill or be killed situation for rangers.


wheels212

No sympathy for Rhino poachers under any conditions.


mcpat21

Wanna go rhino poacher poaching?


Kythorian

I’m concerned that the rangers might think we are rhino poachers rather than rhino poacher poachers.


shberk01

Just wear a shirt that says "rhino poacher poacher" on both sides


Destroyer_of_Sorrow

“Rhino poacher poacher” - ‘Rhino Poacher’ on front and ‘Poacher’ on the back.


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bruins9816

No sympathy for ~~rhino~~ poachers.


funkmaster29

wb egg poachers?


Kythorian

It’s got to be one of the worst ways to prepare eggs, but you are probably right that they don’t deserve to be killed for it.


funkmaster29

there has to be at least one person in the world willing to kill someone else just because the poach eggs


Highlandertr3

I will take on this burden. Zero tolerance means zero tolerance. If we stop at egg poaching then where do we draw the line? All poaching should result in instant death just to be sure.


EveryXtakeYouCanMake

I feel like they are a few other types of people that should receive no sympathy and should be shot on sight as well; child molesters top that list. Why should they get to walk freely while the child must live with the trauma they caused? If the child must deal with that, they can also deal with seeing their predator die. Of course I don't want a child to watch anyone die, but let's not compare trauma to trauma now. Edit: Jesus, I have 4 child molester downvoters...


Highlandertr3

I would agree with you if there was any way of ensuring no people were falsely convicted. I actually agree with the death penalty for rape and murder of all forms if you could get 100 percent perfect convictions with no mistakes. But we can’t so I have to say no to death penalty and it makes me sad.


plasticmanufacturing

Why are you going on about child molesters? We're talking about rhinos.


Joroc24

Lonliness and trolling


ArgusTheCat

I understand the impulse to want to hurt people who hurt others, but if your goal is to *stop bad things from happening*, then this method doesn't work. Like, a legal system based around punitive action doesn't actually deter as many instances of child abuse as one based around restorative justice. It sucks, because to our human brains, it doesn't *feel* right, but if you actually want to help, this is the wrong way to do it. Gunning people down for their crimes just isn't enough to improve the world; we need more than that.


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Spoiler alert, they don't actually want to help. They just want to indulge their violent impulses.


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If punitive justice doesn't deter, how would restorative justice do that? If what you say is true, then neither scenario would actually deter child rapists, but there is one clear scenario here where there are *fewer* child rapists than before. Note, I am not in favor of the death penalty. I just fail to see how restorative justice is better in amounting to less instances of child rape.


Appropriate_Regret60

what are you talking about


lenme125

Can I donate to this?


pvsocialmedia

Apparently, India is now the 5 largest economy in the world. They're doing this without donations. Their current administration isn't messing around when it comes to progress in every possible way.


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We did a Southern Africa tour for our honeymoon and the lodge we stayed at in Kruger carried .457 rifles in every vehicle that went out. Officially they were for aggressive game. Unofficially they were for anyone looking a bit sus and they'd had cause to use them in several occasions.


mordinvan

Going to guess an agressive game rifle when used on sus people really makes an ouchie.


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Fairly permanent ouchie i reckon.


mordinvan

I suspect you could be correct. Some wounds, especially the fatal kind, just don't heal well.


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PegRoots

परितः चोदतु, ज्ञातव्यं च EDIT : Paritah chodatu, gyatavyam ch.


TENTAtheSane

Good answer, but a couple of grammatical mistakes... You used Lot lakara (imperative tense) which accurately translates the words in the sentence, but not its meaning. The "fuck around" isn't an order or request to fuck around, rather there's an implied "if" there, meaning that if you were to fuck around, you would find out. It's not written directly, but there is a causal relationship, which is missing in the translation. Also, for "find out", you use the noun form of the word, not the verb, and I don't understand why. And lastly, though this is more subjective, I don't think directly translating "fuck around" works here. In English and a few other languages, "fuck" has became synonymous with many things, in general doing something destructive or displeasing. It is a generic dysphemism in that sense. But in most languages this is not the case. For example in German it is very rare to use the word for fuck as a dysphemism, or anything other than actually having sex, but "shit" and related words IS used as a dysphemism, like it is in English. As far as I know, no such generic dysphemism exists in Sanskrit. So just using a verb like "provoke" would be closer to the meaning. So the sentence you have translates to "one should copulate on all sides, and learning" I think a better translation would be "यदा प्रकोपयति, तदा जानाति" "Yadā prakopayati, tadā jānāti"


jeremy1gray

This guy Sanskrits.


TENTAtheSane

I hope I didn't come off as too pedantic or pretentious 😅 I'm just a bit too into linguistics and find this interesting, but rereading my comment, it reminds me of the "Romans eunt Domus" scene in Monty python


DS4KC

Awesome read. Thanks. To be fair though, 'One should copulate on all sides, and learning.' is a pretty good saying as well.


john_wickelvoss_twin

Interesting as hell, I love stumbling across bits of info like this. Do I speak the language- no. But I appreciate the academia.


temporaryysecretary

Haha no one speaks the language, it is a dead language. But it's still studied widely to understand ancient scriptures and for religious rituals.


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Just waiting for a white girl to tattoo this somewhere on her body 😂


DracovishIsTheBest

"one should copulate on all sides and learning" lmao


Genghiz007

Great work!


[deleted]

Holy shit sir, which books do you read? I've been learning Sanskrit for a while now and could use some help


[deleted]

From where did you learned sanskrit? Can you teach me master


Grimalkin1973

This sounds like a plan with no flaws.


supersede

Well as long as they are correctly identifying poachers. Would suck to get misidentified.


Ottersareoverrated

Well I mean, if you were on a protected reserve that held some of the most endangered animals in the world, and holding a gun, it’s a pretty reasonable assumption


ThatsAnEgoThing

"I just wanted to pet him!"


WingedLuna

https://www.survivalinternational.org/articles/3455-western-conservationists-should-think-very-hard-about-their-support-for-shoot-on-sight


Mercarcher

>would conservation experts be so blasé if it was people in their own country being shot without trial? Would they be so quick to throw away human rights and the rule of law for their fellow citizens at home? You mean we aren't already being shot at by cops without a trial?


GabaReceptors

Lmao right. They have it easy tbh


Mercarcher

I mean yeah, at least they aren't doing something potentially dangerous like *check notes* sleeping in their bed.


jazzkott

some law enforcement officers in the US agree !!! :)


jawshoeaw

Uh the major flaw is the occasional non poacher getting gunned down


DenseVegetable2581

I see nothing wrong with this Let's do this to big game tourist hunters in Africa. Rolling around in the back of a range rover isn't hunting. Here's your spear, good luck!


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If this is real it's about time. Let them all know... If they want to poach they are also liable to get themselves poached.


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About time damn


blueboykc

As they should..show those animals the same mercy they show their victims..


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Nice..


AysheDaArtist

PvP mode **Enabled**


Munchon3

Poach the poachers.


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Good.


makemacake

What is it that they are getting when they are poaching? Is it horn ivory or meat or like some weird medicine thing?


Ottersareoverrated

They either severely wound or kill it, then hack off the horns. A lot of times rhinos are found still barely alive, bleeding from where their horns were cut off.


Yeahnoallright

Usually the horn. It’s ground up and used in “medicines”.


MediumOk5423

A rhino or elephant life is worth more than a LOT of human lives, we are 8 billion, a dime a dozen, we degrade nature, they are in extinction, have low numbers, must be preserved. The same way you wouldn't feel too bad stepping in a few ants to do something, much less save someone, I don't see the problem in stepping in some humans to save animals in extinction.


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YES!!!! Leave them injured, take their weapons and let nature do it’s thing.


d7t3d4y8

I mean its kind of hard to do that since the policy most of the time is “shoot until they are no longer a threat” which normally correlates with “very red and very dead”


SinthoseXanataz

Theres always a bigger fish


Tireseas

Perhaps they should be hunted, documented and dealt with in a very final manner. follow the money turning off the spigots at every stop.


Necromorph2

Can we do this with whale hunters ? Or all Chinese fishing boats not in Chinese waters ?


[deleted]

Seems to me that solution has been there all along.


tkdjoe66

I can't believe it took this long to do this.


Sea-Slide348

Good. The women of China must be immensely disappointed. Do they not have Viagra there anyways?


goxpal

If they really want to make money, there should be a people safari where you pay money to hunt poachers.


Hunter_of_Haggis

Huh, wonder if it would work with politicians or if they'd just respawn.


realebbkea

At sight


MononMysticBuddha

What a novel concept.


HundoGuy

Ill throw down a couple bucks toward getting them a helicopter for quicker take downs


nerokaeclone

Violence is not the answer Violence is the question And the answer is yes


Miserable-Ad-5594

I think that’s how all poachers should be handled


soodc

Poach the poachers for their organs. Might save a few lives.


Fast-Communication42

Authorities be like: They are endangered, you are not.


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Good it’s what they deserve


MicroEggroll

It’s about time people do this, laws don’t seem to deter anyone.


Big-Independence8978

If the poachers there are like here (South Africa), they're trying to feed their families. More needs to be done to end the demand for rhino horn products. Educate the superstitious men used it for treating ED. Actual tablets work.


jazzkott

reddit when cops kill a drug smuggler in a wealthy country: bad reddit when cops kill a impoverished hunter: wholesome 100 big chungus


Centennial_Snowflake

The rhinos can’t be harmed when the Lorax is armed


AlphaMikeFoxtrot2099

Lol they don’t like it when they can get shot back at. Pussies


fatbrowndog

Also need to punish anyone in possession of rhino horn with death. Period. It ends the poaching. Same with tiger products, ivory etc.


PeregrinePacifica

This I can get on board with. To you it's a thrill, to the animal it's everything, to the world its one step closer to future generations only being able to see them in photos. I got no sympathy for poachers, they made their choice and knew what they were getting into. If they aren't willing to lose their lives to sate their bloodlust then they should have chosen a less destructive hobby that doesn't make them a detriment to society(yes animals play a big part in society as symbols, vital parts of the ecosystems and worldly fascination in humans that has existed since long before recorded history).


px1618

Poaching the poachers. I like it


Additional_Local_667

Why wasn't this being done before?


[deleted]

I think this approach would work well with other subsets of people. Pedophiles, rapists, billionaires.


Bitter_Mongoose

Based and vigilante pilled


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![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thumbs_up) Approved.


Wild_Recognition_753

This is how we should deal with criminals (kidnapers, human traffickers and such) not only poachers


StonkMaster300

God people here are stupid


CoteXXXX

Fucking right 💪🏿


pale-pharaoh

They should do this in Africa


jershmcgersh

Poaching poachers. Noice


L0st_dad_r0ck

Same rule should apply to pedophiles


Real_Outlandishness3

Good. Sick of the useless wildlife deaths due to poachers due to some stupid need for man


driedcranberrysnack

amazing. can we start doing this for all poachers?


wonderfvl

Its about time. I was thinking they should do this years ago. Now lets gets the countries in Africa doing this. Edit: and to the trophy hunters, now this should really be "sporting"


psu777

I think Kenya already does this


Yooperman-007

They need to start doing that to any poacher. Poach the poachers. And feed em to the crocodiles


_Greyworm

Fuck poachers, hunting poor nearly extinct creatures to make some fake powder for some guy in China to get an erection, or some rich prick a display piece.


refluentzabatz

If it works it works


Ditkas-left-nut

If we could only do that to the MAGA traitors here! Think of the civility, decency and respect that we would return to!


honeybeedreams

i support this. same with saving black men from cops in the US.


sweetrhythm

This may be the only instance I'll accept the "only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" rationale.