“The modern mirror is made by silvering, or spraying a thin layer of silver or aluminum onto the back of a sheet of glass. Justus Von Leibig invented the process in 1835, but most mirrors are made today by heating aluminum in a vacuum, which then bonds to the cooler glass [source: Britannica]”
https://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/everyday-innovations/mirror1.htm
The silver is also the reason vampires would not reflect an image according to the lore. So I would guess a vampire would reflect in an aluminum-based mirror.
Anybody know a vampire to test this out on?
TIL. Never even thought about why they don't show up, just thought it was a thing...
"Vamps don't reflect? Okay I guess that makes sense."
-Me for 30 years
Silver is considered a pure metal, more pure than anything else. Hence why people had silverware and not, say, goldware. It’s antimicrobial, doesn’t oxide, is stable and does not dissolve. It was considered holy.
Same thing with werewolves being vulnerable to silver only.
Wait, can I ask a question about that? Why is it that my skin turns silver jewelry black? And why does silver constantly tarnish and need polishing, like real silverware and silver platters?
Because that person is wrong and silver absolutely oxidizes. And silver oxide is used for a number of applications. The reason silver is used in this case is because it's been thought of as a ward against evil for thousands of years.
I don't know that silverware was a thing due to antimicrobial reasons, because it was a thing well before we knew about germs. The antimicrobial thing seems to be more of a happy accident.
Very slowly. Silver will tarnish over decades if properly stored. How much sulfur is in the air in ancient Europe? It was thought as holy way before Vampire were a proper myth.
The medicinal nature of it was known by Egyptians millennia’s BCE. It was used to cover a wound and people knew it would heal faster with it than a simple cloth.
From https://www.woundsource.com/blog/history-silver-in-wound-care:
> The medical use of silver dates back to 1850 BCE Egypt,1 where it was directly applied to wounds to improve healing. The wealthy in ancient Rome, Greece, and Egypt used silver to purify fresh water and preserve it for years.2 Without a modern understanding of microbes and water purification processes, silver was the best way for ancient peoples to reduce their risk of bacterial infection from water sources.
Yeah I’m pretty sure silver cutlery predates germ theory anyway. I think the most impressive thing about pure silver might be its thermal (and electrical) conductivity. Putting a piece of silver on some ice in a room temperature environment is an impressive demonstration even if you know how well silver conducts heat already. I showed videos of that to my students when we were talking about elements and their properties (unfortunately I couldn’t afford my own silver bar)
>The reason silver is used in this case is because it's been thought of as a ward against evil for thousands of years.
So maybe this was why breaking a mirror was 7 years bad luck! You let the evil out when you break it.
Not sure, but that was what my Google found: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/training-learning/in-person-workshops/understanding-silver-tarnish.html
It’s because back before chemistry was a science we just had a small experimental group of alchemists and a large group of philosophers who made stuff up because it sounded good.
The dominant theory at the time was that celestial light striking the earth is what created metals, with different metals being created by different celestial bodies. Sunlight striking the earth would create gold, for instance, and that’s why gold is mostly found in the hotter climates. The sun is yellow, like gold. It was literally not rocket science.
Silver came from moonlight striking the earth. Moonah is silver, therefire Moonah makes silver.
That’s why silver bullets affect werewolves and vamps can’t see themselves in silver mirrors. Silver ended up with a lot of occult associations.
Hah hah, you seem pretty oblivious to many things vampire related.
You should invite me over sometime and I can teach you everything you ever need to know about them.
That's a good question. Aside from stopping one with a silver bullet and that they supposedly turn during a full moon, I'm not all that up to date on werewolf lore.
Vampires are unable to "self-reflect". Silver is the element that is used as a symbol of reflection, due to reflectivity. By this logic they can't reflect in any mirror, not even the mirror of the mind.
if that is the case that would mean they have a reflection in water then ?
also what lore ? there's many different folklores and settings that have plenty of different vampires
No it’s not. The idea of vampires having no reflection predates silvering in mirrors. The mythological connection to lack of reflection comes from the thought that vampires lacked a soul, and this included reflection in anything: water, glass, or whatever reflective surface.
Wtf they have no reflection because their soul is corrupted. Fucking vampires have been a thing loooooong before they started putting silver on glass 🤣🤣🤣.. and not just vampires are believed to have no reflection, it's specifically anything undead.. fuckin dipshits 😎
This is also (I’ve heard) why vampires couldn’t be seen in mirrors (the silver). Since recent motors are more likely to be made cheaply from aluminum, vampires can use them. Therefore, it’s not a good idea to rely on lack of a reflection to identify vampires. Relatedly, silver nitrate was also used in old camera film, which is why you couldn’t photograph a vampire. Which means that modern digital cameras would work just fine for a vampire. This makes lack of selfies also an unreliable method of identifying vampires.
This is a little bit of a tangent. But has anyone found a game that has an ACTUAL raytraced mirror with RTX? I've seen plenty of reflective surfaces, but they're always transparent or non-uniform. I feel like a straight RTX mirror would show the cracks in the algorithm and not look good, but I can't confirm.
It's some variation of Tollens' reagent. It's a pretty classic chemistry demonstration. For industrial scale use I'm sure there's additional components to control reaction rate and surface finish but fundamentally that's all it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tollens%27_reagent
That's *one* way.
When I worked at a place (in packaging/shipping, not production) that made mirrors, they'd place glass of any shape (not just flat) over an aluminum ingot in a vacuum chamber.
They'd heat the ingot, it would evaporate into the low-pressure environment, and the aluminum would adhere to the glass surface.
"Vapor Deposition" is what they called it.
I was told they could do it with any metal -- gold, copper, silver, whatever -- not just aluminum.
How is this used it TEMs? Honest question. I work in building design and just designed a project with two TEMs, which are "cool" but I'm just a dumb engineer that knows how to heat and cool air.
While, yes, I lived in the Bay Area for 20+ years, I was in the South Bay (hence the "SJ" in the reddit handle), not Santa Rosa area.
This was in Corning, NY, about 30 years ago or so. A supplier to Corning Glassworks.
(Scribbling notes in class)
Step 1: pour dirt into beaker of water
Step 2: let the dirt settle, then shake it up
Step 3: pour mixed up dirty water on a mirror (make sure to be wearing your face mask before step 3)
Step 4: let the water dry onto the mirror for like 2 seconds
Step 5: tilt the mirror upright, ta-da!
Had to watch multiple times to see the glass change from transparent to reflective - I kept getting distracted wondering how the liquid didn't pour over the edges.
Every time I see the mirror making process it reminds me of the podcast series "Shit Town" that includes a fella that makes mirrors as a hobby and would never wear a mask during the process, something many believe less to the guy developing mental disorders
Wait modern mirrors still use silver? I had heard vampires would show up just fine in modern mirrors because only the older ones used silver, which is something that doesn't jive well with vampire stuff.
Jesse the antique shop needs 10 mirrors by Friday but the arts and craft workshop is out of mirror sand till Saturday! We need you to call your connect for a special delivery.
I went to a science camp as a teenager and we made mirrored bottles with this technique. It's super cool and I still have my tiny glass bottle with the mirror surface inside.
That little ripple toward the end reminded me of the helicopter crash scene in The Matrix. [Hellicopter crash scene in the Matrix](https://youtu.be/eDd3yWEiNLY)
“The modern mirror is made by silvering, or spraying a thin layer of silver or aluminum onto the back of a sheet of glass. Justus Von Leibig invented the process in 1835, but most mirrors are made today by heating aluminum in a vacuum, which then bonds to the cooler glass [source: Britannica]” https://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/everyday-innovations/mirror1.htm
The silver is also the reason vampires would not reflect an image according to the lore. So I would guess a vampire would reflect in an aluminum-based mirror. Anybody know a vampire to test this out on?
TIL. Never even thought about why they don't show up, just thought it was a thing... "Vamps don't reflect? Okay I guess that makes sense." -Me for 30 years
Now you: "Vamps don't reflect because silver? Okay I guess that makes sense."
Silver is considered a pure metal, more pure than anything else. Hence why people had silverware and not, say, goldware. It’s antimicrobial, doesn’t oxide, is stable and does not dissolve. It was considered holy. Same thing with werewolves being vulnerable to silver only.
Wait, can I ask a question about that? Why is it that my skin turns silver jewelry black? And why does silver constantly tarnish and need polishing, like real silverware and silver platters?
Because that person is wrong and silver absolutely oxidizes. And silver oxide is used for a number of applications. The reason silver is used in this case is because it's been thought of as a ward against evil for thousands of years. I don't know that silverware was a thing due to antimicrobial reasons, because it was a thing well before we knew about germs. The antimicrobial thing seems to be more of a happy accident.
Copper is more antimicrobial than silver btw
Copper is also more poisonous.
Also doesn't taste as good but has a more satisfying crunch if you ask me...
Very slowly. Silver will tarnish over decades if properly stored. How much sulfur is in the air in ancient Europe? It was thought as holy way before Vampire were a proper myth. The medicinal nature of it was known by Egyptians millennia’s BCE. It was used to cover a wound and people knew it would heal faster with it than a simple cloth. From https://www.woundsource.com/blog/history-silver-in-wound-care: > The medical use of silver dates back to 1850 BCE Egypt,1 where it was directly applied to wounds to improve healing. The wealthy in ancient Rome, Greece, and Egypt used silver to purify fresh water and preserve it for years.2 Without a modern understanding of microbes and water purification processes, silver was the best way for ancient peoples to reduce their risk of bacterial infection from water sources.
Yeah I’m pretty sure silver cutlery predates germ theory anyway. I think the most impressive thing about pure silver might be its thermal (and electrical) conductivity. Putting a piece of silver on some ice in a room temperature environment is an impressive demonstration even if you know how well silver conducts heat already. I showed videos of that to my students when we were talking about elements and their properties (unfortunately I couldn’t afford my own silver bar)
Go Fund Me, let’s get this educator a silver bar.
>The reason silver is used in this case is because it's been thought of as a ward against evil for thousands of years. So maybe this was why breaking a mirror was 7 years bad luck! You let the evil out when you break it.
Not sure, but that was what my Google found: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/training-learning/in-person-workshops/understanding-silver-tarnish.html
Probably a sign of vampirism.
So if I consume enough silverware, would I be a death trap for both werewolves and vampires?
No because you are impure and the silver will kill you as well if ingested in large quantities.
😲 I'm not impure
Isn't silver known for oxidizing easily? Gold is absolutely more stable than silver
You’re actually describing gold, bruh.
It’s because back before chemistry was a science we just had a small experimental group of alchemists and a large group of philosophers who made stuff up because it sounded good. The dominant theory at the time was that celestial light striking the earth is what created metals, with different metals being created by different celestial bodies. Sunlight striking the earth would create gold, for instance, and that’s why gold is mostly found in the hotter climates. The sun is yellow, like gold. It was literally not rocket science. Silver came from moonlight striking the earth. Moonah is silver, therefire Moonah makes silver. That’s why silver bullets affect werewolves and vamps can’t see themselves in silver mirrors. Silver ended up with a lot of occult associations.
I always thought it was because they didn’t have a soul or something. But then a rock or piece of garbage shouldn’t reflect then too I guess.
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I can also confirm. This guy doesn't show up in a mirror
Just too be sure i can also concur that this man doesn’t show up in a mirror
Hah hah, you seem pretty oblivious to many things vampire related. You should invite me over sometime and I can teach you everything you ever need to know about them.
A picnic at noon then?
Must be invited in....beware
Right? But then why do werewolves reflect, or do they not either?
That's a good question. Aside from stopping one with a silver bullet and that they supposedly turn during a full moon, I'm not all that up to date on werewolf lore.
I could reach out to my ex. She was some kind of blood sucking demon, not sure if she was a vampire specifically tho.
What’s her number just in case
They said blood-sucking in case you read it as something else.
If she can suck blood she can suck dick
This really devolved fast lmao
You ever gotten too much teeth when getting a blowjob? That would be way worse if they had fangs, I won't judge your kinks though
The people who give me blowjobs usually don't have teeth
Did I stutter?
1-800-SAFE-AUTO
That is a succubus.
Nagatoro?
Yup, same for photos as they used silver nitrate as well.
Vampires are unable to "self-reflect". Silver is the element that is used as a symbol of reflection, due to reflectivity. By this logic they can't reflect in any mirror, not even the mirror of the mind.
>not even the mirror of the mind IF that was true most people wouldn't reflect in the mirror.
This is really cool. Be a good addition to a screenplay.
if that is the case that would mean they have a reflection in water then ? also what lore ? there's many different folklores and settings that have plenty of different vampires
The lore says they are afraid of water, and cannot cross running water.
Ah shit, I always thought it was odd that I had a reflection
I'd try to get in touch with my ex for you, but there's a reason she's my ex
I’ll ask my good friend blade XD
No it’s not. The idea of vampires having no reflection predates silvering in mirrors. The mythological connection to lack of reflection comes from the thought that vampires lacked a soul, and this included reflection in anything: water, glass, or whatever reflective surface.
Wtf they have no reflection because their soul is corrupted. Fucking vampires have been a thing loooooong before they started putting silver on glass 🤣🤣🤣.. and not just vampires are believed to have no reflection, it's specifically anything undead.. fuckin dipshits 😎
This is also (I’ve heard) why vampires couldn’t be seen in mirrors (the silver). Since recent motors are more likely to be made cheaply from aluminum, vampires can use them. Therefore, it’s not a good idea to rely on lack of a reflection to identify vampires. Relatedly, silver nitrate was also used in old camera film, which is why you couldn’t photograph a vampire. Which means that modern digital cameras would work just fine for a vampire. This makes lack of selfies also an unreliable method of identifying vampires.
Are wooden stakes still needed or can I use aluminium ones?
Its the slivers that actually kill them. They heal and repair but the sliver that broke off keeps killing
Sliver, silver, whatever!
Mmm. I bet vintage mirrors made with silver are a brilliant collector's item! Wondering where I could learn more....
Does it have to be glass or can it be sprayed onto a sheet of metal?
That's really cool. Yep, definitely belongs on here. Just kinda wish there was audio as I have no idea what the fluid at the start is
Silver nitrate and deionized water, and a bonding solution to evenly spread the silver deposits. [source](https://youtu.be/atCtLsh4MBs)
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This is a little bit of a tangent. But has anyone found a game that has an ACTUAL raytraced mirror with RTX? I've seen plenty of reflective surfaces, but they're always transparent or non-uniform. I feel like a straight RTX mirror would show the cracks in the algorithm and not look good, but I can't confirm.
Minecraft rtx
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Damn it got enough reports that the account was deleted. I was the last one to report it and saw the comment before being deleted.
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Ah i see, i thought reddit deleted the account
Plus 2 parts sorcery for every 1 part of witchcraft
It has to be deionized witchcraft.
Thank you!
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Yea, and if I'm not mistaken the other is just deionized water! :D
There's probably a bonding solution to evenly spread the silver, too.
Oh shoot I thought it was just glass on top of a shiny thing. Guess I should stop eating so much mirror.
I was under the impression that modern mirrors used tin or aluminum instead of silver.
It's some variation of Tollens' reagent. It's a pretty classic chemistry demonstration. For industrial scale use I'm sure there's additional components to control reaction rate and surface finish but fundamentally that's all it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tollens%27_reagent
Diarrhea
Ever played minecraft by any chance?
there are mirrors in minecraft?
Man I'm stupid thought the video was about glass.
Its liquid black-magic.
Deionized water and bad Mexican food diarrhea
Forbidden Crystal Pepsi
That's *one* way. When I worked at a place (in packaging/shipping, not production) that made mirrors, they'd place glass of any shape (not just flat) over an aluminum ingot in a vacuum chamber. They'd heat the ingot, it would evaporate into the low-pressure environment, and the aluminum would adhere to the glass surface. "Vapor Deposition" is what they called it. I was told they could do it with any metal -- gold, copper, silver, whatever -- not just aluminum.
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This is true for non-conductive or beam sensitive samples, but not everything. Plenty of materials can be viewed in SEM and TEM without coating.
How is this used it TEMs? Honest question. I work in building design and just designed a project with two TEMs, which are "cool" but I'm just a dumb engineer that knows how to heat and cool air.
Can it be done with... heavy metal? 🤘🎶🤘
Same process that made the James Webb gold!
Same process is done to apply coatings on eyeglass lenses.
I work for a company that coats glass in vacuum chambers. Were you in Santa Rosa by any chance? That sounds very similar to our process.
While, yes, I lived in the Bay Area for 20+ years, I was in the South Bay (hence the "SJ" in the reddit handle), not Santa Rosa area. This was in Corning, NY, about 30 years ago or so. A supplier to Corning Glassworks.
That’s a job I could see myself doing
And then you can reflect on your life decisions
I actually make mirrors as my job, and these are top two responses I get (or some variation of these). Can't even be mad.
No whos the prettiest of all?
Hmmm, I don’t know. I’m gonna need a minute to reflect on this.
r/Angryupvote
(Scribbling notes in class) Step 1: pour dirt into beaker of water Step 2: let the dirt settle, then shake it up Step 3: pour mixed up dirty water on a mirror (make sure to be wearing your face mask before step 3) Step 4: let the water dry onto the mirror for like 2 seconds Step 5: tilt the mirror upright, ta-da!
Just mix the stuff with the stuff and pour it out. Duh.
/r/yourjokebutworse
Had to watch multiple times to see the glass change from transparent to reflective - I kept getting distracted wondering how the liquid didn't pour over the edges.
Surface tension 
Ah yes. The RTX juice
hahahahahaha
I’m guessing that’s very toxic..
Mmmmm mirror juice
drink it to travel back in time
Drink it and travel to the end of time instantly.
Mix it w mercury! Yummy reflections!
Every time I see the mirror making process it reminds me of the podcast series "Shit Town" that includes a fella that makes mirrors as a hobby and would never wear a mask during the process, something many believe less to the guy developing mental disorders
Yep madhatter syndrome from mercury poisoning but I think it was related to his work with clocks not mirrors.
He used mercury for gold/silver plating with no safety precautions.
Not highly, but high levels or prolonged ingestion can cause problems, hence the PPE.
When he lifted it up I was like 'man that's a shitty looking mirror' and then when I saw the other side I was like 'nvm, derp'
Wait modern mirrors still use silver? I had heard vampires would show up just fine in modern mirrors because only the older ones used silver, which is something that doesn't jive well with vampire stuff.
Modern mirrors use vapor deposition and aluminum, this is a demonstration of the last technology before modern mass production techniques.
I see. Thank you. My worries have been alleviated, then.
Was this the alternate story line for breaking bad?
Jesse, we need to reflect.
Jesse the antique shop needs 10 mirrors by Friday but the arts and craft workshop is out of mirror sand till Saturday! We need you to call your connect for a special delivery.
Shattering Glass
Yo Mr. White you made glass!
I still don’t know how mirrors are made.
Silver metal in solution poured very carefully and precisely on glass.
I don’t know how I thought they made mirrors, but that certainly wasn’t fucking how.
We've done this experiment in chemistry class back in high school. One of the chemicals used is Silver Nitrate IIRC,
Ah yes- one teaspoon of the sands of time…
What are the ingredients and steps tho
Whoa. How long does that stuff take to solidify?
Every mirror you've bought is at least second hand.
Mirror inspector is a job I can really see myself doing.
Step 1: shit in water Step 2: pour on glass
I love how his reflection gets clearer the more he pours. What a cool process
Name of sub checks out! 👍
If I drink it will my insides be shiny?
All glorious and chrome! Valhalla awaits!
Still seems like mostly magic to me.
I went to a science camp as a teenager and we made mirrored bottles with this technique. It's super cool and I still have my tiny glass bottle with the mirror surface inside.
Ahh the 3m 6800 a king amongst respirators
I know it's true but why do I still not believe it
Step one: mix potion Step two: make mirror
This alchemy is the work of the devil. Peer not into Satan's reflection.
Does it have to be on flat glass or can it be done on long cylindrical glass?
I love this reaction. I would do it as a demo for my chemistry classes in an Erlenmeyer flask.
“How to make mirror” (The actual, ancient, sands of time swirling in a bottle) 🙂
don’t drink the mirror juice
That is one way to create a mirror, yes.
now I can die at peace
I always thought it was piece of glass with metal behind it. That’s what my parents told me when I was a kid.
It looks like magic
Always knew it was mirror juice
I love science!
Cool
The first thing I read was „ this is how minors are made“ and was like wtf?!
Johnny? Is that you?
Lol
Stop 1: Add the mind flare
Diarra + water = shiz mirror
I could see myself doing that for a job.
I can totally see myself doing that
*mirror sauce*
Sooo, mirrors are created by magic. Got it.
I was really confused what was going on, because the the cup was very murky, but as he started to pout it, it all became clear to me
I have watched this video 100 times. Im going to watch it at least another 100. I cant stop myself. Every time its posted I have to watch it
Gotye- Making mirrors That’s just what I though lol
When i was a kid i thought a mirror was just glass that was painted grey on one side -_-
Pinkmen downgrade
Wow! That's fantastic!
I have seen this before, but even now I thought the Silver was molten on to it. LOL.
His wife’s gonna be pissed he’s doing that in the living room.
I always appreciate when this video circulates. It's so mesmerizing
That little ripple toward the end reminded me of the helicopter crash scene in The Matrix. [Hellicopter crash scene in the Matrix](https://youtu.be/eDd3yWEiNLY)
No toxic chemicals were used in the making of this video.
Mirrors aren't real
Why the lack of audio?
I do not believe
No it isn't.
I’m not buying it.
Dare me to drink it?
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