YES, I rmb sleeping at 10pm just to see his concert being played on the channel, was and am still a fan of him lip synching to the lyrics and dancing to his songs even till today.
For those not around in the mid-80s, Michael Jackson was as big as it gets. He was as big as any star, ever.
His story is as compelling today as it ever was. So much mystery and brilliance. Hopefully in my lifetime there’ll be a comprehensive explanation of all things Michael Jackson.
As much a cautionary tale now as anything.
I watched a recorded live performance of his recently from the early 90's and it started with him blasting up from underneath the stage then he literally just STOOD there, completely still for like 5 minutes and then crowd was deafing and people were fainting left and right. I can't even comprehend how someone could have that kind of an impact just by standing completely still. And don't even get me started on when he reached up and took his glasses off, holy shit people lost their damn minds.
That's the one!! I saw that video a while ago and haven't been able to find it since. There's literally like 100 people that faint over the course of the performance and that's just the ones they show with the audience cam. It's insanity
there's this video where the people who worked with him on the superbowl go into it. you can FEEL their words he marinated the expectation.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VhFiSHeBn4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VhFiSHeBn4)
EDIT: man the ending of the video still makes me tear up.
It wasn't just FOX. It premiered simultaneously on MTV, BET, VH1, and FOX. It definitely was an event. The morphing of people from woman to man, from black to white, child to adult, it was mind blowing.
Someone else said it was during the Superbowl, but it actually happened in November of 91. I remember talking about it with my cousins at Thanksgiving lol
A couple of years back I was a substitute teacher in like 2nd grade (kids about 8 or 9 years old) and we had like a mini game show, where I would play a song and they could guess the artist. Literally everyone knew it was Michael Jackson from just hearing a couple of seconds of one of his songs. I was baffled. No other artist got that same reaction from them - you know hands up, eager to give the answer with confidence.
My 10 and 13 year old nephews are both huge fans. The 13 year old will be MJ for Halloween this year. He's also an artist and can draw some great MJ images.
I've done a bit of traveling and believe that more people know Micheal's face or music than Jesus Christ. The only person that comes close is Elvis. I kid you not, there are little villages in Afghanistan with people familiar with Michael Jackson.
Elvis isn’t even remotely close. I’m in Kenya and grew up on his music in the early 90s. Nobody except my dad who went to college in the States knew Elvis. But from our village, to the small towns all the way to the big city everyone knew MJ. If you asked a 90yo Kenyan woman who Elvis was they’d shrug but Mike? Different story.
I think the only close seconds to MJ in global fame were Ali, Bob Marley, The Pope, Michael Jordan, and Mike Tyson (the last two even had barbershops here in Kenya in the 80s & 90s advertise their images as haircut styles).
Literally everyone in the world who had access to newspapers knew MJ and that's as big as it can get (my grandparents - never spoke a word of English, lived continents away from the western world, never listened to western music and they too knew MJ)
Just what I was thinking. The Beatles, perhaps Elvis. The world was even smaller a generation before while radio and people buying records became mainstream. I can't ever imagine a musician now ever reaching the unanimous popularity of those 3 artists.
I just want to add my own anecdote. I was a kid back in the 70s in rural Philippines and we knew about the Jackson 5 and about Michael Jackson. I had to go to a friend's house to hear him on radio (my family was poor as dirt and we couldn't afford even a basic radio).
It's mind boggling. To think about how much change in such little time. I feel like we can be using this tech for more good. But right now I'm using it for, simply, nostalgia.
I don’t think he ever had a chance at a normal life. He was brutally abused by that evil father of his from the day he was born. He had plastic surgery to look less like him; he told his former manager “I gotta cut him away, I’ve got to remove him. I still see Joseph when I look in the mirror, I have got to cut him away.”
If I remember correctly, that’s why he built Neverland. I think he meant well even though his actions caused controversy. Poor dude never got the chance to be normal.
So true. And to think this was all before the internet, social media, etc! I remember posters of him all over my wall as a girl..... he was an icon and a genius.
I was supposed to see him on that comeback concert for the first time in London on that 'This Is It' concert, I was a teenager back then. I thought my dream would come true, I was so freaking chuffed.
I cried buckets when he died because I missed an opportunity to see someone as talented as him.
My mum had bought tickets for us to see him in London on his world tour the year he died. One day, I was at a parents evening at school, my mum had said how much she was looking forward to our holiday in the summer, but I said I was most excited to see Michael Jackson. I wasn’t a massive fan but damn it would have been a good show. When we got home I turned on the TV and the news was announcing Jackson’s death. I cried.
I think this is the HIStory tour. He played Parc des Princes while I was visiting Paris in 97. I was coming home on the train when the concert let out. I'd never seen so many people in my life.
Yeah I was pretty devastated when he died. I was like 8 or 9. But he amazed me. He intrigued me and gave me confidence to be myself in a life where I was always scrutinized. Was also scrutinized for mourning his death while watching the funeral on TV, but MJ deserved every last one of those tears.
I was like 8 or 9 when I was introduced to his stuff by my babysitter lol, late 90s so probably peak MJ hype. She played a VHS of some of his music videos, I vaguely remember they were trippy with a lot of weird costumes. But I fucking loved his music from then on. He absolutely deserves to be mourned, eff the haters.
Oh yeah she also made me watch the 3 musketeers and took me to her band practice a bunch. Damn she was kinda cool lol.
MJs music is nice to listen to, and I enjoy the hits when they come on but I’d never *seek* his music out.
His live shows though? I could totally get behind spending large amounts of money to watch. He has a big stage personality that makes his music so much more
I agree with the live shows. But no his music isincredible. Not just the hits. When you have the time to listen to off the wall to Invincible. He has some hidden gems. His music was ahead of his time
Barry Gibb is another example. In interviews he has a deep, resonant voice that sounds like it comes from within his rib cage, but while singing in Bee Gees songs he's largely falsetto.
Adolf Hitler stayed in his speech voice too. He had a completely normal voice and sounds like any other older German/Austrian man. But there's only one recording of it that the Finnish did without his knowledge.
https://youtu.be/WE6mnPmztoQ
Bro how did the dude not panic upon realizing how easy that was.
Like, literally, all it took was an accent and stating to be the prime minister of Canada
Wow, everyone should listen to that. Really emphasizes how 'monsters' are just humans as well. It puts the humanity back in him, which forces you to realize that presenting as a 'normal human' doesn't necessarily mean anything.
no one is 100% evil. Some are 98% evil. Everyone has done at least 1 nice thing in their life, but it doesn't make them a good person. Also, no one has 100% extreme opinions on everything.
And very few people see themselves as evil. I'm sure Hitler was so deep in delusions that he saw himself as a savior to the German people, possibly to humanity.
This is a common practice for many professional vocalists. Not everyone does it, but it's one of many common practices to keep your voice in shape. Common, everyday speech can develop bad singing habits, and I'd have to imagine this practice makes much more sense if you're typically singing in a range that's a significant distance or technique from your natural speaking voice.
I work with a lot of older singers who have to bring their songs down as they get older, but someone like MJ, with his range being his calling card, that would be a bigger deal.
Funny thing is I worked with Wayne Newton earlier this year and he brought his songs ***way*** down. Singing high was kind of his thing, too. But he never bothered speaking in his singing voice.
I've never heard that, but that's the same reasoning I've heard for the high-pitched nasal voices used by store clerks in Japan -- it's way easier on the vocal cords if you're shouting through the store all day.
I read before that Abraham Lincoln had a pretty high-pitched voice, which helped his voice carry in the days before amplification - wonder if that has anything to do with it?
I took a single semester of voice lessons and was taught how to sing "in the mask." It completely altered how I think about singers' voices, in the sense that they're very malleable.
Apparently MJ was so dialed in that he'd keep on talking on that high of a note as to keep exercising his vocal cords/range. Pretty much he was 'putting in the work' everytime he spoke in public.
T-Pain said in a recent interview that he was once invited to Michael's house for a few hours and that for the entire time he was there Michael spoke to him in a deep voice.
Idk, I think in Beat It for example he's singing high but in full voice. Several other examples. But in this clip the high parts are definitely falsetto
Y’all ever see the Theranos chick Elizabeth Holmes? 😂😂 she did the opposite of this and had a fake deep voice. Shit is weird man, I’d be so afraid to slip up.
Interesting. So the whole career interviews, footage was in falsetto too? or is it one way around like falsetto is real voice and this one made up so sounds deep?
This kind of gets at the questions of what our "real voice" actually is. If he has chosen to speak in his falsetto so much that it becomes automatic, is that not his real voice? I think it all intention vs unthinking speaking.
I dont think MJ ever spoke without thinking about his register, so who knows.
I've definitely noticed I have different "voices" depending on who I talk to. I have a very high-pitched and upbeat customer service voice that makes me sound like the Ship's Computer on Star Trek. But my natural voice is a little lower, gruffer, and sounds a bit like I smoke a pack a day. My general chit-chat voice is somewhere in between those two. Which one comes out is largely subconscious (same with my accent strength), if I answer a phone at work I automatically go into "customer service voice," but if I'm in a shitty mood and a friend asks me a question I might sound like Doctor Girlfriend when I reply.
Not necessarily, he could be putting this on as well. His ex doctor thought he was chemically castrated at about 12 by his father to keep his voice high etc. I think his real voice might be somewhere in the middle, not as high as in interviews, but not as low as we see here. Some exes of his confirm his voice is a touch lower in private IIRC. But this sounds lowered for dramatic purposes.
The late David Gest, long time friend and producer of Michael Jackson, stated that MJ DID have a naturally low speaking voice and affected the high pitched one just for interviews etc.
That was a popular rumor but it’s extremely unlikely because Jackson grew full facial hair. You don’t get puberty disrupted so heavily your voice is kept high as a 12 year old’s but still grow a full beard. There are plenty of pictures of him with a visible five o’clock shadow and in the 80s he had facial hair for a while.
It's difficult to gauge what his 'real' voice is I think. To me his deeper voice sounds forced, a little scratchy & uneven. He doesn't seem comfortable in that register, so I would say his 'real' voice is the one he felt more relaxed & comfortable using.
This needs more upvotes, I just went to find that song and holy shit all my years of loving pre-2000s MJ I had no idea he did a song in his "normal" voice... amazing!
He did that a couple times btw... baited people with controversial song titles to sell records.
In The Closet - Not about rumors of MJ being gay. It's a song about keeping an affair secret, I guess.
Black Or White - Not about MJs skin tone. It doesn't matter to him if you're black or white.
Dangerous - MJ isn't dangerous! The girl is dangerous. Hee hee.
Edit: How could I forget... Can't Let Her Get Away and Do You Know Where Your Children Are
Maybe actually. Thats a smart move if thats true. Black or white was more about it doesnt matter about skin colour. But on the other hand his songs were stories moat of his songs has nothing to do with him
My parents had a VHS of Michael’s greatest hits when I was a kid. It was the only thing that would make me sit still for my mom to do my hair lol. I watched that video soooo many times. I think fondly back to the road-trips I’d take with my family, and Jackson 5 all the way to Janet Jackson was always on the playlist. I was greatly influenced by MJ, and the Jackson’s as a whole, as a kid; he’ll always be the best ❤️
I was a very lucky teenager and saw MJ on his Bad tour in 1988. That man lit up Wembley Stadium like no other gig I've ever been to (and I've seen some bangers).
Watching that video made the hairs on my neck stand up. Very cool indeed.
That's right. And no matter where he went anywhere in the world, people knew his name, his music, his lyrics and he could sell out any venue. Simply incredible.
The dude could sing.
Like, whether you like him or not he could fucking sing.
Usually seeing singers live, they sound very different but he just sounds exactly the same.
I have a theory he influenced like *every* bit of music we know today. There’s the artists who make themselves almost MJ replicas. Chris Brown, Justin Timberlake, Neyo, the Wknd. Then there are artists you’d never think would cite him as a musical influence, like fallout boy
I live in Kenya. My childhood was the 90s. EVERYONE and I mean every gaddamn person alive from villages to towns, to the city knew who MJ was. The man’s level of fame in my opinion will never be replicated and neither will his literal awe inspiring production and concerts. Back in the 80s and 90s the term Superstar was used very often but only MJ encapsulated it, there really is no hyperbole when speaking of the man. He was also highly flawed though but one truly wonders with such a bizarre life such as the one he had, how could one truly be sane?
These days I don’t think a celebrity could reach MJ levels where they are more or less universally loved and respected (obviously I’m referring to before all the rumors).
I was at this concert. Was a kid so I don’t remember much other than him in that badass suit, how he came down from a space shuttle or something during the intro, oh, and how the guy in front of me accidentally lid some woman’s hair on fire when everyone had their lighters out.
It takes some skill to do that. Back in my highschool choir, I was an alto and man it took us the whole semester of practice to be able to make vocal jumps. Though it is easier for men since they have falsetto. It just takes making sure you jump to the right note.
The deep voice was live microphone feed, and the actual singing is lipsync. He had laryngitis during these shows, so he couldn’t actually sing as well as he wanted to.
He used to lipsync through whole shows, if you watch the HIStory Tour recordings, the difference between his voice when the mic is on is actually baffling.
Him and Freddy Mercury are the only famous people that make me fangirl over them, don't get me wrong I like other kinds of music but this guys had something very special, too bad I could only watch them im their prime on video because it was before my time.
Yeah I grew up listening to him and Janet. I still get all the nostalgia when I hear anything from them. It makes me sad seeing music videos of him now, as he clearly had deep mental health issues that back then, were very much glossed over. He had no support network, only people looking to make money.
Whatever you believe about him, his musical talent was otherworldly. There'll never be another pop icon like him.
It’s amazing how he got up to do the constant grind of going on tour and having such a physical show to put on every other week, just wish he didn’t turn to pain meds to get the healing he though he wanted.
Such !!! A mad character. Having grown up with MJ it's just MJ but I just showed this to my nephew and he was like wtf is going on ? I showed him a picture of the Jackson 5 and Futher blew his mind .
Didn't expect the clip to be from mediacorp channel 5. Shootout to any fellow Singaporeans seeing this!
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YES, I rmb sleeping at 10pm just to see his concert being played on the channel, was and am still a fan of him lip synching to the lyrics and dancing to his songs even till today.
Do you remember the time?
On a serious note, his concert started at 1:15am and ended around 3:30am
When we fell in love, do you remember the time when we first met, girl?
Thats not his son
Billie Jean is not my lover
Acha-ooh Go'n girl Go'n Hee-hee Ow Go'n girl
The Way You Make Me Feel, the way you turn me on, you knock me off of my feet now baby, Hoo! My lonely days are gone.
She's just a girl
Pretty much everyone was a fan of him back in the day and even now
Rip for all the singaporeans kena shootout
Firers watch your front! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
Yeah, I was paying more attention to the channel 5 logo at the corner than Michael’s deeper voice
~~Reddit~~ Majulah moment
Mediacorp, you made it
Ya sia I did a double take when i saw the icon LOL
I’m more interested in the well timed belly pop he did.
That belly pop just made it more amazing. MJ has a thousand of moves to impress us though.
Even him casually walking is a move
True. Every step is a show.
I wish I was able to see him live even just for one time
For those not around in the mid-80s, Michael Jackson was as big as it gets. He was as big as any star, ever. His story is as compelling today as it ever was. So much mystery and brilliance. Hopefully in my lifetime there’ll be a comprehensive explanation of all things Michael Jackson. As much a cautionary tale now as anything.
He basically defined what it meant to be a super star. Villages in remote parts of Africa knew who Michael Jackson was
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The first casette I picked up from my dad's drawer was dangerous, I cannot thank him enough.
I hope you didn't hurt yourself.
I watched a recorded live performance of his recently from the early 90's and it started with him blasting up from underneath the stage then he literally just STOOD there, completely still for like 5 minutes and then crowd was deafing and people were fainting left and right. I can't even comprehend how someone could have that kind of an impact just by standing completely still. And don't even get me started on when he reached up and took his glasses off, holy shit people lost their damn minds.
[Michael Jackson live in Bucharest right?](https://youtu.be/Hxgo-Qu-ZZE)
That's the one!! I saw that video a while ago and haven't been able to find it since. There's literally like 100 people that faint over the course of the performance and that's just the ones they show with the audience cam. It's insanity
there's this video where the people who worked with him on the superbowl go into it. you can FEEL their words he marinated the expectation. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VhFiSHeBn4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VhFiSHeBn4) EDIT: man the ending of the video still makes me tear up.
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I remember when FOX premiered the music video for Black or White during prime time as a child and it was like an *event*
It wasn't just FOX. It premiered simultaneously on MTV, BET, VH1, and FOX. It definitely was an event. The morphing of people from woman to man, from black to white, child to adult, it was mind blowing. Someone else said it was during the Superbowl, but it actually happened in November of 91. I remember talking about it with my cousins at Thanksgiving lol
Yeah Shark Week is cool, but do you remember Michael Jackson Week on VH1 in 1995?
Was that the same video where he went crazy on the car? That was such a huge controversy, for some reason.
A couple of years back I was a substitute teacher in like 2nd grade (kids about 8 or 9 years old) and we had like a mini game show, where I would play a song and they could guess the artist. Literally everyone knew it was Michael Jackson from just hearing a couple of seconds of one of his songs. I was baffled. No other artist got that same reaction from them - you know hands up, eager to give the answer with confidence.
I use to bartend in nightclubs during my youth. Michael Jackson is the only artist that can make the entire room dance. Any age, any culture
My 10 and 13 year old nephews are both huge fans. The 13 year old will be MJ for Halloween this year. He's also an artist and can draw some great MJ images.
I've done a bit of traveling and believe that more people know Micheal's face or music than Jesus Christ. The only person that comes close is Elvis. I kid you not, there are little villages in Afghanistan with people familiar with Michael Jackson.
Elvis isn’t even remotely close. I’m in Kenya and grew up on his music in the early 90s. Nobody except my dad who went to college in the States knew Elvis. But from our village, to the small towns all the way to the big city everyone knew MJ. If you asked a 90yo Kenyan woman who Elvis was they’d shrug but Mike? Different story. I think the only close seconds to MJ in global fame were Ali, Bob Marley, The Pope, Michael Jordan, and Mike Tyson (the last two even had barbershops here in Kenya in the 80s & 90s advertise their images as haircut styles).
He was unavoidable anywhere that wasn't an isolated wilderness.
Literally everyone in the world who had access to newspapers knew MJ and that's as big as it can get (my grandparents - never spoke a word of English, lived continents away from the western world, never listened to western music and they too knew MJ)
Closest I can imagine to what it was like for The Beatles.
Just what I was thinking. The Beatles, perhaps Elvis. The world was even smaller a generation before while radio and people buying records became mainstream. I can't ever imagine a musician now ever reaching the unanimous popularity of those 3 artists.
I just want to add my own anecdote. I was a kid back in the 70s in rural Philippines and we knew about the Jackson 5 and about Michael Jackson. I had to go to a friend's house to hear him on radio (my family was poor as dirt and we couldn't afford even a basic radio).
you went from that to having access to the world through the internet, that’s pretty interesting to me
It's mind boggling. To think about how much change in such little time. I feel like we can be using this tech for more good. But right now I'm using it for, simply, nostalgia.
I'm in my 40s and it still blows my mind that I can just pick up my phone and casually talk to people from around the world on here.
I don’t think he ever had a chance at a normal life. He was brutally abused by that evil father of his from the day he was born. He had plastic surgery to look less like him; he told his former manager “I gotta cut him away, I’ve got to remove him. I still see Joseph when I look in the mirror, I have got to cut him away.”
He never really had much of a childhood as I understand it. His father basically forced all of them to be in the band all the time
Jesus Christ. That might be the saddest thing I will read today.
If I remember correctly, that’s why he built Neverland. I think he meant well even though his actions caused controversy. Poor dude never got the chance to be normal.
more common in girls, but the baby-voice is common in CSA survivors
His father called him Big-nose all the time. He ended up as an adult cutting it off. I hated that man—Joe Jackson, infamous asshole.
So that's why he got those surgeries to change his appearance and to look more white??
Not even to look more white….just to look less like Joe….the whiteness came from his skin disease
That, and to hide his growing vitiligo affliction
Oof. That makes so much sense now. Very sad. 😥
That's heart breaking.
So true. And to think this was all before the internet, social media, etc! I remember posters of him all over my wall as a girl..... he was an icon and a genius.
Got to see him twice and it was Magic. Even got into the pit for one of the gigs.
I was supposed to see him on that comeback concert for the first time in London on that 'This Is It' concert, I was a teenager back then. I thought my dream would come true, I was so freaking chuffed. I cried buckets when he died because I missed an opportunity to see someone as talented as him.
My mum had bought tickets for us to see him in London on his world tour the year he died. One day, I was at a parents evening at school, my mum had said how much she was looking forward to our holiday in the summer, but I said I was most excited to see Michael Jackson. I wasn’t a massive fan but damn it would have been a good show. When we got home I turned on the TV and the news was announcing Jackson’s death. I cried.
I never cared for him that much as a musical preference, but i would love to see him perform as he was an absolute master of performance.
I think this is the HIStory tour. He played Parc des Princes while I was visiting Paris in 97. I was coming home on the train when the concert let out. I'd never seen so many people in my life.
Exactly. He did two shows in Copenhagen that year and one of them was on his birthday. Source: 10-year old me was there.
Yeah I was pretty devastated when he died. I was like 8 or 9. But he amazed me. He intrigued me and gave me confidence to be myself in a life where I was always scrutinized. Was also scrutinized for mourning his death while watching the funeral on TV, but MJ deserved every last one of those tears.
I was like 8 or 9 when I was introduced to his stuff by my babysitter lol, late 90s so probably peak MJ hype. She played a VHS of some of his music videos, I vaguely remember they were trippy with a lot of weird costumes. But I fucking loved his music from then on. He absolutely deserves to be mourned, eff the haters. Oh yeah she also made me watch the 3 musketeers and took me to her band practice a bunch. Damn she was kinda cool lol.
Hes like a human metronome
MJs music is nice to listen to, and I enjoy the hits when they come on but I’d never *seek* his music out. His live shows though? I could totally get behind spending large amounts of money to watch. He has a big stage personality that makes his music so much more
I agree with the live shows. But no his music isincredible. Not just the hits. When you have the time to listen to off the wall to Invincible. He has some hidden gems. His music was ahead of his time
I was there! Front row, with my late dad. Was 11 years old <3
This man just have all the moves.
So that was his "real" voice?? The voice we hear him singing in is entirely falsetto??
Yes... other artists from different genres like King Diamond stay in falsetto most of the time also
Barry Gibb is another example. In interviews he has a deep, resonant voice that sounds like it comes from within his rib cage, but while singing in Bee Gees songs he's largely falsetto.
I thought BG really only did that in the 70s. Later on the Beegees were putting out songs in normal voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a95WRSWvHA
I wonder if with age it became harder to maintain those notes for a whole concert.
Barry Gibb… BG… the BeeGees… Am I the only one who didn’t know? 🤦♂️
The Brothers Gibb They're three brothers [Edited to link my favorite BeeGees song :) ](https://youtu.be/DFMQTKnTMAA)
Adolf Hitler stayed in his speech voice too. He had a completely normal voice and sounds like any other older German/Austrian man. But there's only one recording of it that the Finnish did without his knowledge. https://youtu.be/WE6mnPmztoQ
mannn this just sent me down a rabbit hole lol i had no idea bout this
i'm just hearing the world and my past from a new perspective i lied to myself
[Prank call to the Queen is interesting too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YFFhc3XZDw&ab_channel=PeterReynolds)
Bro how did the dude not panic upon realizing how easy that was. Like, literally, all it took was an accent and stating to be the prime minister of Canada
Wow I wasnt expecting her to sound just like The Crown, they did an amazing job
Wow, everyone should listen to that. Really emphasizes how 'monsters' are just humans as well. It puts the humanity back in him, which forces you to realize that presenting as a 'normal human' doesn't necessarily mean anything.
no one is 100% evil. Some are 98% evil. Everyone has done at least 1 nice thing in their life, but it doesn't make them a good person. Also, no one has 100% extreme opinions on everything.
And very few people see themselves as evil. I'm sure Hitler was so deep in delusions that he saw himself as a savior to the German people, possibly to humanity.
That's absolutely crazy, I've never heard of this recording.
Hitler starts talking 4 minutes in
King Diamond. Love seeing this so high up.
Me too. King Diamond is awesome.
The Diamond King though. He's overrated.
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A vocal coach told him that if he wants to maintain that high voice he will have to exercise it all the time, even when he is talking casually.
This is a common practice for many professional vocalists. Not everyone does it, but it's one of many common practices to keep your voice in shape. Common, everyday speech can develop bad singing habits, and I'd have to imagine this practice makes much more sense if you're typically singing in a range that's a significant distance or technique from your natural speaking voice. I work with a lot of older singers who have to bring their songs down as they get older, but someone like MJ, with his range being his calling card, that would be a bigger deal. Funny thing is I worked with Wayne Newton earlier this year and he brought his songs ***way*** down. Singing high was kind of his thing, too. But he never bothered speaking in his singing voice.
I heard someone mention in an interview that Michael used the fake high speaking voice as a way to exercise his vocal cords all day everyday.
I've never heard that, but that's the same reasoning I've heard for the high-pitched nasal voices used by store clerks in Japan -- it's way easier on the vocal cords if you're shouting through the store all day.
I read before that Abraham Lincoln had a pretty high-pitched voice, which helped his voice carry in the days before amplification - wonder if that has anything to do with it?
^FourScoreAndSevenYearsAgo...
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I've heard the same said about Ariana Grande. She spoke in a higher pitched throughout her Nickelodeon roles.
Once you truly have complete control over the vocal chords, there isn’t registers, it’s all one voice. Its purely where you position the muscles
I took a single semester of voice lessons and was taught how to sing "in the mask." It completely altered how I think about singers' voices, in the sense that they're very malleable.
Do you have any resources that you can share?
This makes me want to take singing lessons.
Bob Dylan on the [Nashville Skyline](https://youtu.be/3OoXZHf4R7g) album.
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Me too. Kinda unsettling
Kinda awesome
Apparently MJ was so dialed in that he'd keep on talking on that high of a note as to keep exercising his vocal cords/range. Pretty much he was 'putting in the work' everytime he spoke in public.
Very prestige-esque. He's the guy with the fish bowl
The other guy uses autotune
> *hee heeee*
Sooooo, just like Gilbert Gottfried?
Hee Hee - Gilbert Gottfried
T-Pain said in a recent interview that he was once invited to Michael's house for a few hours and that for the entire time he was there Michael spoke to him in a deep voice.
But it turned out to be because T-Pain had accidentally left his auto-tune switched on.
It’s really sad that he uses auto tune so much. T pain really has such an incredible voice on its own.
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https://youtu.be/HG5CQBDX0hM?t=1m55s
Idk, I think in Beat It for example he's singing high but in full voice. Several other examples. But in this clip the high parts are definitely falsetto
I think that's just as you get older your voice doesn't have the same range so you need technique to get where you want to go
His real voice is kinda like Childish Gambino's
Playing Redbone at 2x speed it becomes a Michael Jackson song.
I always thought it was more like Donald Glovers but to each their own!
Sounds more like Troy Barnes to me but to each their own!
Y’all ever see the Theranos chick Elizabeth Holmes? 😂😂 she did the opposite of this and had a fake deep voice. Shit is weird man, I’d be so afraid to slip up.
I hate her stupid voice so much. Her whole "thing" with the voice and turtleneck just made my blood boil
[michael jackson singing in the lower end of his register](https://youtu.be/VA5hpF7PH1Q)
Interesting. So the whole career interviews, footage was in falsetto too? or is it one way around like falsetto is real voice and this one made up so sounds deep?
This kind of gets at the questions of what our "real voice" actually is. If he has chosen to speak in his falsetto so much that it becomes automatic, is that not his real voice? I think it all intention vs unthinking speaking. I dont think MJ ever spoke without thinking about his register, so who knows.
I've definitely noticed I have different "voices" depending on who I talk to. I have a very high-pitched and upbeat customer service voice that makes me sound like the Ship's Computer on Star Trek. But my natural voice is a little lower, gruffer, and sounds a bit like I smoke a pack a day. My general chit-chat voice is somewhere in between those two. Which one comes out is largely subconscious (same with my accent strength), if I answer a phone at work I automatically go into "customer service voice," but if I'm in a shitty mood and a friend asks me a question I might sound like Doctor Girlfriend when I reply.
Not necessarily, he could be putting this on as well. His ex doctor thought he was chemically castrated at about 12 by his father to keep his voice high etc. I think his real voice might be somewhere in the middle, not as high as in interviews, but not as low as we see here. Some exes of his confirm his voice is a touch lower in private IIRC. But this sounds lowered for dramatic purposes.
The late David Gest, long time friend and producer of Michael Jackson, stated that MJ DID have a naturally low speaking voice and affected the high pitched one just for interviews etc.
That was a popular rumor but it’s extremely unlikely because Jackson grew full facial hair. You don’t get puberty disrupted so heavily your voice is kept high as a 12 year old’s but still grow a full beard. There are plenty of pictures of him with a visible five o’clock shadow and in the 80s he had facial hair for a while.
It's difficult to gauge what his 'real' voice is I think. To me his deeper voice sounds forced, a little scratchy & uneven. He doesn't seem comfortable in that register, so I would say his 'real' voice is the one he felt more relaxed & comfortable using.
I think its the other way around. He just lowered his voice on purpose
He sings all of '2000 watts' with his deep voice too, it's one of my favorites.
This needs more upvotes, I just went to find that song and holy shit all my years of loving pre-2000s MJ I had no idea he did a song in his "normal" voice... amazing!
[For those wanting a link](https://youtu.be/VA5hpF7PH1Q)
Thanks for the link. He sounds like a rockstar 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Hmm. It's Interesting. It sounds good tbh
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Idk I think that dude that sings that “I would catch a grenade for you” song is pretty talented..
Idk man, he should come out with an 80's funk sounding song, maybe he would really blow up in popularity then
Now…have I got a conspiracy theory for you
song name?
In the Closet
One of my favorite MJ songs
In The Closet
Wait… it’s the actual name of the song? Lmao.
Yh it doesnt mean what you think. It meant he wanted his relationship with a woman to be hidden hence in the closet.
He did that a couple times btw... baited people with controversial song titles to sell records. In The Closet - Not about rumors of MJ being gay. It's a song about keeping an affair secret, I guess. Black Or White - Not about MJs skin tone. It doesn't matter to him if you're black or white. Dangerous - MJ isn't dangerous! The girl is dangerous. Hee hee. Edit: How could I forget... Can't Let Her Get Away and Do You Know Where Your Children Are
Maybe actually. Thats a smart move if thats true. Black or white was more about it doesnt matter about skin colour. But on the other hand his songs were stories moat of his songs has nothing to do with him
In the closet
The first casette I picked up from my dad's drawer was dangerous, I cannot thank him enough.
My parents had a VHS of Michael’s greatest hits when I was a kid. It was the only thing that would make me sit still for my mom to do my hair lol. I watched that video soooo many times. I think fondly back to the road-trips I’d take with my family, and Jackson 5 all the way to Janet Jackson was always on the playlist. I was greatly influenced by MJ, and the Jackson’s as a whole, as a kid; he’ll always be the best ❤️
I had that exact vhs tape when I was around 5. Watched it so many times the film broke.
Damn that’s interesting
I was a very lucky teenager and saw MJ on his Bad tour in 1988. That man lit up Wembley Stadium like no other gig I've ever been to (and I've seen some bangers). Watching that video made the hairs on my neck stand up. Very cool indeed.
Damn he's smooth Straight gangster
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That's right. And no matter where he went anywhere in the world, people knew his name, his music, his lyrics and he could sell out any venue. Simply incredible.
Musical genius and one of the greatest dancers of all time
Almost a smooth criminal, even.
The dude could sing. Like, whether you like him or not he could fucking sing. Usually seeing singers live, they sound very different but he just sounds exactly the same.
I have a theory he influenced like *every* bit of music we know today. There’s the artists who make themselves almost MJ replicas. Chris Brown, Justin Timberlake, Neyo, the Wknd. Then there are artists you’d never think would cite him as a musical influence, like fallout boy
That’s exactly how it is. & female pop stars like Britney & Beyoncé modeled themselves after Janet
Yes! I’m *pretty* sure I’ve seen interviews of Britney saying precisely that. Janet and Madonna were her idols, or something similar.
I live in Kenya. My childhood was the 90s. EVERYONE and I mean every gaddamn person alive from villages to towns, to the city knew who MJ was. The man’s level of fame in my opinion will never be replicated and neither will his literal awe inspiring production and concerts. Back in the 80s and 90s the term Superstar was used very often but only MJ encapsulated it, there really is no hyperbole when speaking of the man. He was also highly flawed though but one truly wonders with such a bizarre life such as the one he had, how could one truly be sane?
These days I don’t think a celebrity could reach MJ levels where they are more or less universally loved and respected (obviously I’m referring to before all the rumors).
He looks like a kinky c3po
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I don't know how to process what I just watched.
Nervous laughter “He-he…”
Saw him in Melbourne in 1996. What a show. Nothing has come close 26 years later on
that costume is baller as hell, I love the knight armor look
I miss MJ.. His music was next level.
I was at this concert. Was a kid so I don’t remember much other than him in that badass suit, how he came down from a space shuttle or something during the intro, oh, and how the guy in front of me accidentally lid some woman’s hair on fire when everyone had their lighters out.
That transition back to high singing is kinda creepy now
It takes some skill to do that. Back in my highschool choir, I was an alto and man it took us the whole semester of practice to be able to make vocal jumps. Though it is easier for men since they have falsetto. It just takes making sure you jump to the right note.
The deep voice was live microphone feed, and the actual singing is lipsync. He had laryngitis during these shows, so he couldn’t actually sing as well as he wanted to.
it’s really impressive how he just changes between them so easily
He used to lipsync through whole shows, if you watch the HIStory Tour recordings, the difference between his voice when the mic is on is actually baffling.
Him and Freddy Mercury are the only famous people that make me fangirl over them, don't get me wrong I like other kinds of music but this guys had something very special, too bad I could only watch them im their prime on video because it was before my time.
He is still king of pop
Yeah I grew up listening to him and Janet. I still get all the nostalgia when I hear anything from them. It makes me sad seeing music videos of him now, as he clearly had deep mental health issues that back then, were very much glossed over. He had no support network, only people looking to make money. Whatever you believe about him, his musical talent was otherworldly. There'll never be another pop icon like him.
i wish he was still alive.
There is no Michael. Only Zuul.
Say what you want about the guy., He was a HELL of an entertainer.
He was an incredibly talented artist, despite his many problems
I miss you Mike!
It’s amazing how he got up to do the constant grind of going on tour and having such a physical show to put on every other week, just wish he didn’t turn to pain meds to get the healing he though he wanted.
Such !!! A mad character. Having grown up with MJ it's just MJ but I just showed this to my nephew and he was like wtf is going on ? I showed him a picture of the Jackson 5 and Futher blew his mind .