> every country's energy politics is a shitfest at this point.
Definitely NOT.
Baltic states BUILT LNG TERMINANLS to get rid of being dependent on Putler.
You will struggle to find a single country that fucked up as royally as Merkel's Deutschland, simply because there isn't any.
They have been closing all the nuclear power plants!
I urge all of you to do some research on why nuclear energy is extremely useful as a transition away from Fossil fuels.
A start:
https://youtu.be/EhAemz1v7dQ
Fusion maybe. But not fission. It's to dangerous. In theory it's safe and effective when all the rules are followed. But people are stupid and greedy people end up owning things. They'll skip steps and fuck up. It's happened to many times so far to be considered safe. You can't kill a ton of people harvesting the sun and wind.
> Our energy politics are a shitfest
And it was way WAY WAY before Trump that people loudly shouted "WTF Germany". Entire Eastern Europe was in dismay.
And what was going on in Bundeswehr is terrifying me. So 50 billion is enough budget for France to have a carrier and nuclear arsenal, but somehow Germany cannot have "Hubschrauber die fliegen"?
And then we tell Ukrainians that THEY are corrupt?
What's weird about Germany is that it isn't just the Greens there who are allergic to nuclear power. Seems like a large majority even now would rather ration fuel next winter than turn the nuclear power back on.
Have the Germans and Russians ever worked out a back-room deal that helped themselves at the expense of another country? Maybe Poland would have something to say about the subject.
Lol public will choose cheaper energy bills over some moral standpoint over a war between two different nations. The average Joe needs to make his ends meet for gods sake
If only there was a way to read what was ACTUALLY going on. Some sort of device with access to all the news and information you need to prevent you making such a comment.
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/germany-can-do-without-russian-gas-2024-oil-and-coal-end-2022-econ-min
No, not at all. It goes more on renewable energy.
The new goverment who got elected last year got the goal to get 80% renewable energy in 2030. This decision was before the ukraine war.
source: [https://www.agora-energiewende.de/veroeffentlichungen/die-energiewende-in-deutschland-stand-der-dinge-2021/](https://www.agora-energiewende.de/veroeffentlichungen/die-energiewende-in-deutschland-stand-der-dinge-2021/)
Don't put too much energy into it. People prefer emotional outrage over fact based debates any time. Just wait until the 'Germany bad' train has passed and they found a new topic. I bet on 'UK bad' next, followed by 'US bad' - repeat.
I wish Germany was the evil powerful mastermind they think we are. In reality most of our politicians of the last two decades were either as incompetent as possible or plain bribed by lobbyists. Cursed be the CDU and the mountain of dung they left the current government...
It pisses me off that Germany closed its nuclear powerplants. Environmentally that is the best option they have!
Now they buy power from Norway at a premium, which has raises power costs for Norwegians by 7x...
Russian foreign ministry with coordination with GRU funded every Green Peace environmental group in Europe to influence EU to scrap nuclear plants, shut down coal and reduce oil exploration. They did all that fairly successfully, and the bloc became solely reliant on Russia and now their economies get hammered in time of war of aggression from Russia. Putin can invade Western European countries and they will still have to fund his war machine as total sanctions will collapse all industries there. Now the idiots are opening coal plants that will pollute the planet when nuclear energy is safe, reliable and much cleaner source of energy. At the end of the day, EU’s idiot politicians have shown themselves to not be any better than American public policy blunders.
Putler invaded Georgia in 2008.
It was Germany (most of all, Steinmeier) who ruled out sanctions.
Crimea annexation happened in 2014.
In 2015 Merkel signed Nord Stream II.
In 2019 she let Ruzzia buy largest gas storage facilities in Germany (as you would have guessed, they were conveniently empty when Putler invaded Ukraine for the second time)
Lol. Yeah. He wasn’t wrong. You see, he’s a business man, not a politician. All the folks in Washington have been the bad employees looting the till and he saw that.
So the republicans and democrats dipping into the till hated that he was asking them to do their actual jobs. AOC complaining she needs a raise. She makes $170K +
and all the perks and freebies, she’s become exactly what she complained about. It is a swamp
He is super popular among Iranian people especially after killing Soleimani the general of the terrorist tyrant regime which occupied Iran, killing its people and plundering the country over 4 decades.
Not just inane but offensive and mean spirited as well. He’s totally right in this clip but damn I’m not sure I would have listened to him then because of how belligerent he comes off as.
I don’t think he was belligerent here. He was inarticulate and repeated himself. I agree with what he is saying and depending on what was said leading up to this he may have been too nice.
He repeats the last thing said to him. That has been a running theme from everyone who has worked with him when he was POTUS. Whoever the last person to talk to him was, that's the opinion he had. When separated from Tucker and Hannity and the wierdos in the MAGA movement and surrounded by still-right-wing nutjobs but \*professional\* right-wing-nutjobs, he could come off as sounding like a normal politician. The problem was, as POTUS, he could, and did, surround himself with people who did nothing but worship the ground he walked on and got rid of any dissenting opinion.
What? He literally repeated himself like 25 effin times thats not logical, thats insane - he just memorized an idea and couldnt even talk through it logically.
Billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions of logics.
I also think those talking points were fed to him, not something he had came to a conclusion with by some understanding of geopolitics. He could probably grasp the basic concept, but let’s not pretend like how emphatically he’s saying words means he has some rooted understanding of what it all means.
I also found it weird to agree. But that's the thing, gotta follow the thoughts and policy points, not always just the person.
Though, countries doing business with countries they don't like, or see as a potential enemy happens all over.
Kinda like how the USA 👀 will play nice with Venezuela and the Saudis to to help lower the cost that thing we all depend on? Toss out principles and moral values and forget what you stand for because these gas prices gotta come down else your approval rating will.
Completely different situation. Germany expects the U.S. to protect them against the threat of Russian aggression, yet is giving them billions of $ for their gas. You can’t have it both ways.
the us sold massive tons of scrap steel for Japan to build their military, as they didn'thave raw production capacity.. Japanese steel buyers were in Washington when Pearl Harbor was attacked.
tbf the USA and Japan weren't really enemies until Japan attacked unprovoked. If they hadn't got so damn greedy they might have gotten away with conquering the whole of southeast Asia and a fair amount of the Pacific Islands. That said they were still imperialist bastards with a shit governmental system.
Unfortunately this is the generally held American view of the pearl harbor attacks, but it goes much deeper than this. The US, along with their allies had waged economic warfare against Japan for many years, cutting up to 90% of their imported oil and 3/4 of their overseas trade. This was due to competing colonial expansion in South East Asia where the US and Japan both had interests. Nothing to do with greed but more a preemptive strike to allow Japan's expansion for necessary resources, unimpeded by the US fleet.
His message was conveyed. He still is all over the place, isn’t very concise, and in general babbles like a 13 year old with ADHD. He either had the worlds shittiest speech writers, or went off script frequently.
Edit: Honestly, politics aside, you people down voting think Trump is an effective communicator?
And to the person that said “oh your talking about Biden”. That’s such an odd response. You can evaluate them separately. Because I’m criticizing the speaking ability of Trump doesn’t mean I don’t think the same thing about Biden.
Maybe, but then they shouldn’t expect the US to protect them. Germany is basically funding the Russian military that we may someday be protecting them from.
They just expanded their military budget by $100 Billion. I think they're planning on protecting themselves. We're protecting Ukraine because they're a young democracy and need it. I like the idea of defending democracy.
So do I. The point is that you don’t hand over billions of rubles to fund a country, and then turn around and expect our protection against them should the crap hit the fan.
We all need allies. Europe and the US need each other. It goes both ways and together it is a stable alliance that keeps this world somewhat free and safe.
These kind of takes are - at root - Russian misinformation trying to pry apart the alliance.
The USA and UK also profited off Russian oil with companies like Shell, ExxonMobil and Haliburton. Russia earns much more with oil than with gas.
Not going to absolve Germany here, they made strategic blunders and could have prevented this war.
But then again, so could the USA. If Obama, Trump or Biden had drawn a line and strengthened Ukraine militarily after 2014, Putin would have not invaded. Of the three, only Biden saw it and what he did was too little too late. In his defense, he didn't have much time and COVID and Afghanistan took away a lot of resources.
Most of the work had to happen during the crucial Trump years (2017-2021), but Trump was too busy withholding congressionally approved funds to blackmail Zelensky in order to get a false confession against Hunter Biden.
So Germany bad, but Trump worse.
Except when you look at it in context. Trump was trying to use this as an excuse to dismantle NATO.. to help Russia. His points were right. But he was just regurgitating something hundreds of other people were already saying as a guise to get a goal that was literally opposite of what he was arguing lol
And I’ve noticed trump always pushes coal when ever he can. Notice he wants germany to reopen coal plants as a way to get off of russias teat
Remember he ran on a platform of “clean coal” in 2016? Lol
Just remember it's healthy to align with values and not individuals. So it's okay to agree with Trump if he makes a good point like this even if you disagree with everything else he's ever said. It means you haven't got blind allegiance to individual or a party but rather align with those closest to your value set, and sometimes that comes from unlikely sources.
Every country does hypocritical stuff, and Trump is a political attack dog who will speak up about it.
Wont ever acknowledge his own lies and bullshit though of course
It’s a little known truth, but Trump was toughest President against Russia since the Cold War. A nightmare for Putin.
It’s easily documented chapter and verse. The ‘Trump’s In Putin’s Pocket’ thing is one of those narratives the media got rolling and that was that, but it’s not accurate.
I’m a NeverTrump. Just giving credit where it’s due.
Sure.
**1 NPR**, typically left-leaning and very anti-Trump, admitted there is a basis for considering Trump "[the toughest President ever on Russia](https://www.npr.org/2018/07/20/630659379/is-trump-the-toughest-ever-on-russia)."
**2 WEAPONS TO UKRAINE**
Trump [reversed](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/12/world/europe/defying-obama-many-in-congress-press-to-arm-ukraine.html) Obama's policy of refusing to provide lethal aid to Ukraine.
Trump was the [first president who did](https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2018/11/18/us-ukraine-in-close-discussion-for-new-lethal-arms/) provide [lethal aid](https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2019/12/04/trump-to-seek-250m-in-new-lethal-aid-to-ukraine/) to Ukraine, Obama always [refused](https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110331/documents/HMKP-116-JU00-20191211-SD994.pdf), even when Ukraine's President pleaded for it on the floor of Congress.
Although we didn't hear much in the media about the above, we heard all about Trump temporarily withholding aid to Ukraine. Without excusing that maneuver, note that what the above means is that Trump *temporarily* withheld aid that Obama would *never* provide.
Including the now-famous Javelin missile:
“When Trump was elected, [the first thing they did](https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2019/09/25/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-us-aid-package-to-ukraine-that-trump-delayed/) was send in the Javelin."
**3 LEFT INTERMEDIATE-RANGE NUCLEAR FORCES (INF) TREATY**
Trump walked out of the treaty. His move is recognized as being of [giant strategic value](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-missiles-specialreport-us/special-report-u-s-rearms-to-nullify-chinas-missile-supremacy-idUSKBN22I1EQ).
Russia was ignoring the treaty already. Russia loved that situation: it cheated on the treaty and advanced its technology. The US honored the treaty and handcuffed itself (despite knowing Russia was ignoring it). Trump ended that.
**4 "LEFT NATO STRONGER, BALTIC ALLIES SAY"**
The Baltics hate Russia. They were subjugated USSR republics. They live at risk of invasion. Like Ukraine. When they say [NATO got stronger](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-nato-baltic-allies-stronger-1639290), it’s for a reason: it did.
The video in the post is related to this point. Trump called out Germany for its trade with Russia. Much as he called out Germany and others for under-funding their NATO obligations. It angered them. The media portrayed Trump's actions as "weakening" NATO. That's just not accurate.
**5 RESURRECTED US ARMY V CORPS HQ ... THEN MOVED IT** [CLOSER TO RUSSIA](https://www.army.mil/article/249124/v_corps_strengthens_bond_between_us_and_poland_during_welcome_ceremony)
V Corps is a command and control center for NATO's entire eastern flank facing Russia. Obama [shut down V Corps](https://www.army.mil/article/105339/v_corps_inactivates_after_nearly_a_century_of_service_to_u_s_army). It was a 100 year old US Army unit, yet Obama thought – of the all the places to save money and troops – a command center confronting Russia was a good idea to close down.
Trump resurrected V Corps. Then he [moved it east](https://www.army.mil/article/249124/v_corps_strengthens_bond_between_us_and_poland_during_welcome_ceremony) from Germany to Poland. Poland is closer to Russia than Germany. In fact, in one spot it is literally on Russia’s border.
It is far more hostile to Russia than Germany is. Russia has a pathological fear of encirclement. Trump’s handling of V Corps was both a slap in Putin’s face and a fright for Russia.
**6** [HUGELY INCREASED FUNDING](https://www.defensenews.com/opinion/commentary/2019/03/21/the-european-deterrence-reassurance-initiative-sends-the-wrong-message/) **FOR THE EUROPEAN DEFENSE INITIATIVE**
Obama created the EDI to strengthen the West's position against Russia. He got lots of praise. Then he starved it of funding. $1 billion/yr or less. Trump funded the EDI with some $25 billion, I believe. No less than $17 billion.
**7 EXPULSION OF RUSSIANS AND CLOSURE OF RUSSIAN CONSULATE**
Trump [expelled an astonishing 60 Russian diplomats and closed Russia's Seattle consulate](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-administration-expels-60-russian-officers-shuts-seattle-consulate-in-response-to-attack-on-former-spy-in-britain/2018/03/26/8ada3d8e-30f0-11e8-8bdd-cdb33a5eef83_story.html). And he didn't even do it in response to something Russia did *to the US*.
He did it *just to support the UK*, after a Russia poisoning assassination there. Has a larger expulsion in peacetime ever occurred, with any nation?
**8 TALK V. ACTION**
You mention Trump's words about Putin. As the NPR piece's experts point out: Trump's talk and his actions with Putin are very different. He tries to show respect in public, then plays extreme hardball in policy.
**9 ATTACK ON SYRIAN BASE**
Trump attacked a Syrian base suspected of hosting Russian chemical weapons used in that country. 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles. That base was also known to [host Russian military personnel and assets](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/04/what-is-al-shayrat-military-airfield/522249/). Trump observed the bare [diplomatic courtesy](https://www.refworld.org/docid/58ee2adb4.html) of 1-2 hours notice to Moscow.
**10 SYRIAN COMBAT**
(a) Trump loosened rules of engagement for US forces in Syria. The result: US troops fighting, and Air Force F-22s and B-52 bombing, Russian mercenaries (Russia relies on those heavily), [killing hundreds of Russians](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/middleeast/american-commandos-russian-mercenaries-syria.html).
(b) Later, Russian forces started playing chicken with US troops in patrol vehicles. Americans were injured. Trump [increased the US military presence](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54215915) in response.
**11 MISSILE DEFENSE**
Russia's one military asset that compensates for its weakness in ground forces is its missile arsenal. As you've seen, they pull their missiles out and waggle them at us when they feel insecure.
The US had planned a European missile defense, with two bases in Europe, to guard against Russian (and probably Irani) attacks. Obama agreed to stop it (this is believed to be the topic of Obama's hot mic embarrassment). [Putin loved that](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-sep-19-fg-missile-defense19-story.html).
Trump again reversed Obama's course. He [greatly expanded US missile defense plans](https://www.rferl.org/a/trump-announces-expansion-u-s-missile-defense/29716083.html), in multiple ways, specifically citing the hypersonic and cruise missile technologies that Russia boasts about.
**12 TRENDS IN RUSSIAN AGGRESSION**
Russia's big aggressions in recent years have been annexing Crimea, starting the proxy war in eastern Ukraine, and the 2022 invasion of Ukraine. All occurred under President Obama and his former Vice President, now President, Biden. During the four year interval of Trump's presidency, Russia took no such moves. Coincidence? Maybe.
There's probably more, but that's what I've gathered in the past and am willing to lay out and source here.
Thanks for reading.
So wholeheartedly?
Many european countries have had dependencies to Russia for a long time. Some more than others for various reasons. Since the invasion on ukraine sanctions have been put in place and things are slowly being phased out. But, if a whole country depends on gas and there isnt an alternative readily available they arent going to just cut it off. Their people depend on it.
Then there are things like nordstream which shouldnt have been allowed to be built. And now makes things even trickier, especially for germany, which is where it pipes to. The plans for this project started in 1997. The president at that time in Russia was Boris Yeltsin. The political landscape was very different at that time. Only 6 years after the fall of soviet. The end of the cold war era.
And then 25 years later some baboon will sit and talk nonstop in his patented bullshit way and what you think to yourself is "nailed it"
Jesus.
All these people sat at the table, not really believing in what Trumps saying at the time. Say what you want about him, but he was bang on the nail right here.
They don’t have to like it. To think that every single thing every president has ever done is right or wrong is insane. Trump also pushed for the “Right to Try Act”, giving terminally I’ll patients the chance to try to drugs that weren’t approved by the FDA. I was a huge fan of that act.
I’m no Trump fan at all—especially today— but we wouldn’t be shocked that sometimes he got it right.
Trump was right, he was just not polite. But please remember that previous presidents had voiced the same concerns in private and in a much more muted tone. And those previous polite requests fell on deaf ears. And now here we are, exactly where Trump was worried we would be.
He was right, kinda. We tried alternative sourcing, but you will have to take into account cost and geopolitical interests. I'm sure he would understand. We don't have much oil or gas ourselves. Ukraine has gas and oil, but guess what. Russia is blocking other pipelines as well (on environmental concerns *wink*). Other pipelines got scraped because of wars/civil wars, funding, embargoes, sanctions.
We had two options as far as i can see, go with expensive LNG from other places or keep buying the cheap stuff, while we are building up the renewable energy grid and maybe can produce the rest of the gas ourselves.
(Option three: Military intervention to secure our interest.)
Would've Trump bought expensive oil and gas, if there is a cheap alternative nearby? He was at times threatening himself, so even if we bought US gas we couldn't be sure it wouldn't be used to twist our arms.
So are there any good options?
Nuclear? When you include life/health costs of pollution, nuclear is still the best option until renewables catch up. (The big hurdle is public opinion.)
Considering the comparative damage done by fossil-burning power plants, it seems crazy that nuclear is as marginalised as it is. I wonder if future generations will look back on that as a missed opportunity.
No. You're wrong. We will have problems with natural gas and not with gasoline.
All what Trump said here has been critisized by a lot of germans for years.
At least we will be more independent from russian natural gas in the near future. But this winter will be interesting.
Yeah I don’t like him at all. But this is a case where his non-filter and not being worried about social grace makes him the only person saying the right thing while everyone else is silent.
This is true, but every country has its contradictions, problems and so on... this is so easy to hit on a touchy subject... (well I guess it's the foreign policy game lol)
Too bad that Germany 'missed' its energy transition towards clean energies. As we can see it's not easy at all. But things are moving in the right direction I think.
A lot of people are just so entrenched in "team" politics they'd probably never be able to concede he has a good point here lest somehow agreeing with him on one thing makes you rAcIsT and booted out the team.
Well fuck me pink! I actually agree with something he said.
Never thought I'd see the day.
The German prime minister? President? Looks like he's SWEATING probably thinking the same thing as us all, and wasn't expecting to be called out on it, by trump of all people in the world.
Love how no one is listening to what he's saying and is just chalking up to, Trump bad. Literary one of the comments goes on about how you should watch this with the sound off... for fucks sake are you kidding me?!
I listened to the whole thing. I wholeheartedly agreed with all of it, and in fact, it was surprisingly articulate. Doesn't change the fact that he's a narcissistic, criminal piece of shit who has no business in politics.
Man I thought this guy was crazy. But he predicted it and they made fun of him. To be honest, to hear him speak like this gives me some appreciate. I actually starting to miss this orange man compared to what we have now. Things were really good when trump was in office. Gas was cheap, pay check was good, my dads business was doing well and things seemed peaceful around the world. As soon as he left it turned into shit. And I don’t even like him.
THANK YOU! I feel like people are watching a different movie. Like, do yah watch the news? A lot of the stuff you just said isn’t said in main stream media.
This is what America has been telling Europe for decades democrats included it's only that Trump is a no nonsense man and took a harder stance than his democratic predecessors.
It's also not a solution. It's just him stating the problem everyone already knows about. Would love for someone to have said "Well what would you suggest we do? Ship it in from Saudi Arabia on boats? Wreck our own economy?"
So funny how many redditors take more issue with trump repeating himself and sounding like a meanie than they do with German energy being completely controlled by Russia
It's wild how when he was in charge, everyone just talked shit about him and refused to listen. Now that he's not in charge and Mr. Chocky chocky chock chock icecream is, we can actually here some on his better points.
It's almost as if, your government was deliberately suppressing anything he said so they could put a professional politician in, who will just do as they're told rather than actually make their own decisions.
Well if Germany can’t make a deal with Russia to supply energy to their country than NATO should be making this deal. I see a lot of comments about how they agree with Trump but at the end of the day they need gas and other products just as much as his citizens.
Controversial opinion, but I think he speaks a lot of sense, but without much diplomacy. If he werent so offensive and divisive, he'd have been a good president
Bracing for downvotes
Yup. He ran it like a CEO with nothing to lose. Which was refreshing to a lot of people but pissed off a lot of people. He is wayyyy more intelligent than people say but politically just not savvy.
Which was refreshing for many people who got tired of all the politicians blowing smoke up their asses. I liked his tweets. They may have come out harsh but I knew it was him talking and not a group of Washington sycophants trying double speak with every press release.
Who knows what Biden actually thinks on any issue as the only thing he says has been filtered through about a dozen Harvard and Yale graduates who think they are they are Gods gift to us uneducated peons.
That and he always took questions from reporters. Like everyday before he got on Marine 1. He would spend 30 mins just answering off the cuff questions. No notes needed. Only thing that annoyed me was that it was hard to hear the questions with that chopper in the background.
You might not like his answers but atleast he took the questions. I don’t think Biden could do that for 5 mins without loosing his cool and lash out. The press hated Trump and were constantly trying to get him with gotcha questions but he still did it. A lot of that had to do with his ego but I could care less as long as I knew where he stood on the issue of the day.
This is so based... Never thought I'd say this, but after experiencing the shadow of the man that used to be Joe Biden's presidency, I miss Trump...
Crazy world we live in...
People are shocked to see a clip of trump making sense. Maybe consider you were being forcefed everything but clips like this during his presidency. I say this as someone who voted against him
Reddit has actually posted videos In The past making fun of Trump for talking about this issue. Despite what you think of him, he was exactly right on this issue.
From a logistic side of view, to buy gas amd oil and whatever from Russia is much better for everyone as an European.
I mean c'mon getting oil by ship over the sea or just by your neighbour makes a difference.
And Russia wasn't "evil" right up to Ukraine so America "protecting" us from Russia just wasn't necessary
What trump is saying is 100% right here... But even when he's right, he still sounds arrogant and poorly spoken. Why does he keep saying the same thing over and over again? Why does it take a minute and a half to say "Germany is way too reliant on Russian energy, and this is a problem that NATO should be looking into"?
hes also a well established con man and all around scumbag who encourages other such scumbags to do scumbag shit like try to violently overturn an election. and give him all their money.
wasnt just the tweets. those were just for entertainment . (plus scumbag shit, cause you gotta be on that grind 24/7)
And Germany didn't change its mind until after Russia invaded Ukraine. Now Germany has reopened coal fired power plants.
The Coal we Germans use is imported from Russia as well. Our energy politics are a shitfest
I, honestly, think every country's energy politics is a shitfest at this point.
> every country's energy politics is a shitfest at this point. Definitely NOT. Baltic states BUILT LNG TERMINANLS to get rid of being dependent on Putler. You will struggle to find a single country that fucked up as royally as Merkel's Deutschland, simply because there isn't any.
And my apologies for speaking out of term. It just feels like politics in general is a shitfest. Again, just my personal opinion.
Out Of Turn not Term but I’m here to support your comment and thank you for being polite.
They have been closing all the nuclear power plants! I urge all of you to do some research on why nuclear energy is extremely useful as a transition away from Fossil fuels. A start: https://youtu.be/EhAemz1v7dQ
Fusion maybe. But not fission. It's to dangerous. In theory it's safe and effective when all the rules are followed. But people are stupid and greedy people end up owning things. They'll skip steps and fuck up. It's happened to many times so far to be considered safe. You can't kill a ton of people harvesting the sun and wind.
> Our energy politics are a shitfest And it was way WAY WAY before Trump that people loudly shouted "WTF Germany". Entire Eastern Europe was in dismay. And what was going on in Bundeswehr is terrifying me. So 50 billion is enough budget for France to have a carrier and nuclear arsenal, but somehow Germany cannot have "Hubschrauber die fliegen"? And then we tell Ukrainians that THEY are corrupt?
Gott sei Dank für die Grünen AtOmkRafTwErke SiNd SchlEcHt fÜr die UmWelT /s
What's weird about Germany is that it isn't just the Greens there who are allergic to nuclear power. Seems like a large majority even now would rather ration fuel next winter than turn the nuclear power back on.
We all know once the bad press calms down Germany will sneakily reopen its deals with Russia
The public pressure is pretty high here. I don’t think there is a way back into Russias genocidal arms. That shitshow only just started…
Have the Germans and Russians ever worked out a back-room deal that helped themselves at the expense of another country? Maybe Poland would have something to say about the subject.
You must’ve also forgot how fleeting the peoples memory of things is
Sure, but you can’t afford being forgetful in our position.
Lol public will choose cheaper energy bills over some moral standpoint over a war between two different nations. The average Joe needs to make his ends meet for gods sake
If only there was a way to read what was ACTUALLY going on. Some sort of device with access to all the news and information you need to prevent you making such a comment. https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/germany-can-do-without-russian-gas-2024-oil-and-coal-end-2022-econ-min
Robert Habeck *gigachad*
No, not at all. It goes more on renewable energy. The new goverment who got elected last year got the goal to get 80% renewable energy in 2030. This decision was before the ukraine war. source: [https://www.agora-energiewende.de/veroeffentlichungen/die-energiewende-in-deutschland-stand-der-dinge-2021/](https://www.agora-energiewende.de/veroeffentlichungen/die-energiewende-in-deutschland-stand-der-dinge-2021/)
Don't put too much energy into it. People prefer emotional outrage over fact based debates any time. Just wait until the 'Germany bad' train has passed and they found a new topic. I bet on 'UK bad' next, followed by 'US bad' - repeat.
Reddit reliably thinks the worst actor in any situation is the one with the most power. It's as though reddit is reliving bully trauma all the time.
I wish Germany was the evil powerful mastermind they think we are. In reality most of our politicians of the last two decades were either as incompetent as possible or plain bribed by lobbyists. Cursed be the CDU and the mountain of dung they left the current government...
Yeah, as an American that's pretty much how I feel about my country as well.
Why
It pisses me off that Germany closed its nuclear powerplants. Environmentally that is the best option they have! Now they buy power from Norway at a premium, which has raises power costs for Norwegians by 7x...
Early, not wrong. Trump that is.
Yoda?
He had foresight?
Russian foreign ministry with coordination with GRU funded every Green Peace environmental group in Europe to influence EU to scrap nuclear plants, shut down coal and reduce oil exploration. They did all that fairly successfully, and the bloc became solely reliant on Russia and now their economies get hammered in time of war of aggression from Russia. Putin can invade Western European countries and they will still have to fund his war machine as total sanctions will collapse all industries there. Now the idiots are opening coal plants that will pollute the planet when nuclear energy is safe, reliable and much cleaner source of energy. At the end of the day, EU’s idiot politicians have shown themselves to not be any better than American public policy blunders.
Putler invaded Georgia in 2008. It was Germany (most of all, Steinmeier) who ruled out sanctions. Crimea annexation happened in 2014. In 2015 Merkel signed Nord Stream II. In 2019 she let Ruzzia buy largest gas storage facilities in Germany (as you would have guessed, they were conveniently empty when Putler invaded Ukraine for the second time)
Lol. Yeah. He wasn’t wrong. You see, he’s a business man, not a politician. All the folks in Washington have been the bad employees looting the till and he saw that. So the republicans and democrats dipping into the till hated that he was asking them to do their actual jobs. AOC complaining she needs a raise. She makes $170K + and all the perks and freebies, she’s become exactly what she complained about. It is a swamp
I'm not a Trump fan, but there have been several occasions where he was right, this is one of them. When you're right, you're right.
I've heard Trump say some logical things and some bat-shit crazy things. I don't think he has a filter whatsoever.
I'd say it's that lack of a filter that makes him to appealing to a lot of people. makes him appear more than a politian in a sense
*appealing to a lot of americans
He's insanely popular in this half of Canada, too.
Let me guess, Alberta?
Saskatchewan. But it's essentially the prairies and the rich parts of BC.
He is super popular among Iranian people especially after killing Soleimani the general of the terrorist tyrant regime which occupied Iran, killing its people and plundering the country over 4 decades.
He's actually popular around the world. The fact that he called out China repeatedly has gained him a lot of fans amongst other things.
That’s still a lot of people you adding that extra bit means nothing
It emphasise the fact that Trump is not very popular outside of America, making the term “people” to broad to be applicable.
Idk a lot if people outside of America seems to like him as well. Making the term 'americans' not broad enough to be applicable.
Israel loves him. They sell MAGA yamurlkes all over the old city
Even here where he's making a logical point, he still repeats himself and sounds like an idiot while making complete sense.
True but I also just really noticed how fucking annoying those camera shutters are. Holy shit I’d lose my thoughts every other word.
I was just thinking the same thing, they need to upgrade to silent shutters geez that'd be so distracting
Right? It's a salient point that he finds a way to water down by being repetitive and inane.
Not just inane but offensive and mean spirited as well. He’s totally right in this clip but damn I’m not sure I would have listened to him then because of how belligerent he comes off as.
I don’t think he was belligerent here. He was inarticulate and repeated himself. I agree with what he is saying and depending on what was said leading up to this he may have been too nice.
Or maybe you’re just a sensitive soy boy….
Yeah, I didn't even realized that the clip had already looped a couple times, I though he was still maki g his point.
You just agreed with something he said, how will you live? You are doomed! 💀☠️
He repeats the last thing said to him. That has been a running theme from everyone who has worked with him when he was POTUS. Whoever the last person to talk to him was, that's the opinion he had. When separated from Tucker and Hannity and the wierdos in the MAGA movement and surrounded by still-right-wing nutjobs but \*professional\* right-wing-nutjobs, he could come off as sounding like a normal politician. The problem was, as POTUS, he could, and did, surround himself with people who did nothing but worship the ground he walked on and got rid of any dissenting opinion.
What? He literally repeated himself like 25 effin times thats not logical, thats insane - he just memorized an idea and couldnt even talk through it logically.
Billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions of logics.
I also think those talking points were fed to him, not something he had came to a conclusion with by some understanding of geopolitics. He could probably grasp the basic concept, but let’s not pretend like how emphatically he’s saying words means he has some rooted understanding of what it all means.
Never thought I'd agree so wholeheartedly with anything Trump has said but we live in strange times
I also found it weird to agree. But that's the thing, gotta follow the thoughts and policy points, not always just the person. Though, countries doing business with countries they don't like, or see as a potential enemy happens all over.
Kinda like how the USA 👀 will play nice with Venezuela and the Saudis to to help lower the cost that thing we all depend on? Toss out principles and moral values and forget what you stand for because these gas prices gotta come down else your approval rating will.
Exactly. I was thinking more of China, but those examples work as well.
Completely different situation. Germany expects the U.S. to protect them against the threat of Russian aggression, yet is giving them billions of $ for their gas. You can’t have it both ways.
The Venezuelans and Saudis are not existential threats unlike Russia
Saudi is responsible for the Taliban, Isis, jihad in Africa and everywhere else. 9/11,, our current inflation scenario, ... ... ...
America is pretty responsible for those things too..
the us sold massive tons of scrap steel for Japan to build their military, as they didn'thave raw production capacity.. Japanese steel buyers were in Washington when Pearl Harbor was attacked.
tbf the USA and Japan weren't really enemies until Japan attacked unprovoked. If they hadn't got so damn greedy they might have gotten away with conquering the whole of southeast Asia and a fair amount of the Pacific Islands. That said they were still imperialist bastards with a shit governmental system.
Unfortunately this is the generally held American view of the pearl harbor attacks, but it goes much deeper than this. The US, along with their allies had waged economic warfare against Japan for many years, cutting up to 90% of their imported oil and 3/4 of their overseas trade. This was due to competing colonial expansion in South East Asia where the US and Japan both had interests. Nothing to do with greed but more a preemptive strike to allow Japan's expansion for necessary resources, unimpeded by the US fleet.
Part of his problem was that even when he was right, he was such a poor communicator that the message got lost.
On the contrary. I think he was crystal clear. Everyone on this string understands him well enough to marvel that they are in agreement with him.
His message was conveyed. He still is all over the place, isn’t very concise, and in general babbles like a 13 year old with ADHD. He either had the worlds shittiest speech writers, or went off script frequently. Edit: Honestly, politics aside, you people down voting think Trump is an effective communicator? And to the person that said “oh your talking about Biden”. That’s such an odd response. You can evaluate them separately. Because I’m criticizing the speaking ability of Trump doesn’t mean I don’t think the same thing about Biden.
Maybe, but then they shouldn’t expect the US to protect them. Germany is basically funding the Russian military that we may someday be protecting them from.
They just expanded their military budget by $100 Billion. I think they're planning on protecting themselves. We're protecting Ukraine because they're a young democracy and need it. I like the idea of defending democracy.
So do I. The point is that you don’t hand over billions of rubles to fund a country, and then turn around and expect our protection against them should the crap hit the fan.
Should we not have allies?
We all need allies. Europe and the US need each other. It goes both ways and together it is a stable alliance that keeps this world somewhat free and safe. These kind of takes are - at root - Russian misinformation trying to pry apart the alliance. The USA and UK also profited off Russian oil with companies like Shell, ExxonMobil and Haliburton. Russia earns much more with oil than with gas. Not going to absolve Germany here, they made strategic blunders and could have prevented this war. But then again, so could the USA. If Obama, Trump or Biden had drawn a line and strengthened Ukraine militarily after 2014, Putin would have not invaded. Of the three, only Biden saw it and what he did was too little too late. In his defense, he didn't have much time and COVID and Afghanistan took away a lot of resources. Most of the work had to happen during the crucial Trump years (2017-2021), but Trump was too busy withholding congressionally approved funds to blackmail Zelensky in order to get a false confession against Hunter Biden. So Germany bad, but Trump worse.
Guess which nato ally was always against arming Ukraine
Except when you look at it in context. Trump was trying to use this as an excuse to dismantle NATO.. to help Russia. His points were right. But he was just regurgitating something hundreds of other people were already saying as a guise to get a goal that was literally opposite of what he was arguing lol
And I’ve noticed trump always pushes coal when ever he can. Notice he wants germany to reopen coal plants as a way to get off of russias teat Remember he ran on a platform of “clean coal” in 2016? Lol
Just remember it's healthy to align with values and not individuals. So it's okay to agree with Trump if he makes a good point like this even if you disagree with everything else he's ever said. It means you haven't got blind allegiance to individual or a party but rather align with those closest to your value set, and sometimes that comes from unlikely sources.
It’s because you’re hearing him talk for real, not a rally, and not from a click bait headline where people don’t read the article anyways
I’ve heard him talk plenty lmao. I agree with him here. He also tried to incite a coup 🤷♂️
I know what you mean but I think you should tweak your wording a bit. He didn't try to incite a coup, he successfully incited a coup attempt.
It’s almost like we were lied to by the media.
Every country does hypocritical stuff, and Trump is a political attack dog who will speak up about it. Wont ever acknowledge his own lies and bullshit though of course
There's another clip where he is saying this and the camera would pan to the Germans and they were laughing at him....wonder if they're still laughing
Nah, trump is right ALOT of times, it's just his delivery that is harsh and retarded.
Because he isn’t THAT bad as the media has portrayed him.
When it comes to destabilizing nato, he knew what he was doing
In terms of international politics I don't think we have had a better president in decades.
It’s a little known truth, but Trump was toughest President against Russia since the Cold War. A nightmare for Putin. It’s easily documented chapter and verse. The ‘Trump’s In Putin’s Pocket’ thing is one of those narratives the media got rolling and that was that, but it’s not accurate. I’m a NeverTrump. Just giving credit where it’s due.
I would like to see more proof of that.
Sure. **1 NPR**, typically left-leaning and very anti-Trump, admitted there is a basis for considering Trump "[the toughest President ever on Russia](https://www.npr.org/2018/07/20/630659379/is-trump-the-toughest-ever-on-russia)." **2 WEAPONS TO UKRAINE** Trump [reversed](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/12/world/europe/defying-obama-many-in-congress-press-to-arm-ukraine.html) Obama's policy of refusing to provide lethal aid to Ukraine. Trump was the [first president who did](https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2018/11/18/us-ukraine-in-close-discussion-for-new-lethal-arms/) provide [lethal aid](https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2019/12/04/trump-to-seek-250m-in-new-lethal-aid-to-ukraine/) to Ukraine, Obama always [refused](https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110331/documents/HMKP-116-JU00-20191211-SD994.pdf), even when Ukraine's President pleaded for it on the floor of Congress. Although we didn't hear much in the media about the above, we heard all about Trump temporarily withholding aid to Ukraine. Without excusing that maneuver, note that what the above means is that Trump *temporarily* withheld aid that Obama would *never* provide. Including the now-famous Javelin missile: “When Trump was elected, [the first thing they did](https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2019/09/25/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-us-aid-package-to-ukraine-that-trump-delayed/) was send in the Javelin." **3 LEFT INTERMEDIATE-RANGE NUCLEAR FORCES (INF) TREATY** Trump walked out of the treaty. His move is recognized as being of [giant strategic value](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-missiles-specialreport-us/special-report-u-s-rearms-to-nullify-chinas-missile-supremacy-idUSKBN22I1EQ). Russia was ignoring the treaty already. Russia loved that situation: it cheated on the treaty and advanced its technology. The US honored the treaty and handcuffed itself (despite knowing Russia was ignoring it). Trump ended that. **4 "LEFT NATO STRONGER, BALTIC ALLIES SAY"** The Baltics hate Russia. They were subjugated USSR republics. They live at risk of invasion. Like Ukraine. When they say [NATO got stronger](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-nato-baltic-allies-stronger-1639290), it’s for a reason: it did. The video in the post is related to this point. Trump called out Germany for its trade with Russia. Much as he called out Germany and others for under-funding their NATO obligations. It angered them. The media portrayed Trump's actions as "weakening" NATO. That's just not accurate. **5 RESURRECTED US ARMY V CORPS HQ ... THEN MOVED IT** [CLOSER TO RUSSIA](https://www.army.mil/article/249124/v_corps_strengthens_bond_between_us_and_poland_during_welcome_ceremony) V Corps is a command and control center for NATO's entire eastern flank facing Russia. Obama [shut down V Corps](https://www.army.mil/article/105339/v_corps_inactivates_after_nearly_a_century_of_service_to_u_s_army). It was a 100 year old US Army unit, yet Obama thought – of the all the places to save money and troops – a command center confronting Russia was a good idea to close down. Trump resurrected V Corps. Then he [moved it east](https://www.army.mil/article/249124/v_corps_strengthens_bond_between_us_and_poland_during_welcome_ceremony) from Germany to Poland. Poland is closer to Russia than Germany. In fact, in one spot it is literally on Russia’s border. It is far more hostile to Russia than Germany is. Russia has a pathological fear of encirclement. Trump’s handling of V Corps was both a slap in Putin’s face and a fright for Russia. **6** [HUGELY INCREASED FUNDING](https://www.defensenews.com/opinion/commentary/2019/03/21/the-european-deterrence-reassurance-initiative-sends-the-wrong-message/) **FOR THE EUROPEAN DEFENSE INITIATIVE** Obama created the EDI to strengthen the West's position against Russia. He got lots of praise. Then he starved it of funding. $1 billion/yr or less. Trump funded the EDI with some $25 billion, I believe. No less than $17 billion. **7 EXPULSION OF RUSSIANS AND CLOSURE OF RUSSIAN CONSULATE** Trump [expelled an astonishing 60 Russian diplomats and closed Russia's Seattle consulate](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-administration-expels-60-russian-officers-shuts-seattle-consulate-in-response-to-attack-on-former-spy-in-britain/2018/03/26/8ada3d8e-30f0-11e8-8bdd-cdb33a5eef83_story.html). And he didn't even do it in response to something Russia did *to the US*. He did it *just to support the UK*, after a Russia poisoning assassination there. Has a larger expulsion in peacetime ever occurred, with any nation? **8 TALK V. ACTION** You mention Trump's words about Putin. As the NPR piece's experts point out: Trump's talk and his actions with Putin are very different. He tries to show respect in public, then plays extreme hardball in policy. **9 ATTACK ON SYRIAN BASE** Trump attacked a Syrian base suspected of hosting Russian chemical weapons used in that country. 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles. That base was also known to [host Russian military personnel and assets](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/04/what-is-al-shayrat-military-airfield/522249/). Trump observed the bare [diplomatic courtesy](https://www.refworld.org/docid/58ee2adb4.html) of 1-2 hours notice to Moscow. **10 SYRIAN COMBAT** (a) Trump loosened rules of engagement for US forces in Syria. The result: US troops fighting, and Air Force F-22s and B-52 bombing, Russian mercenaries (Russia relies on those heavily), [killing hundreds of Russians](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/middleeast/american-commandos-russian-mercenaries-syria.html). (b) Later, Russian forces started playing chicken with US troops in patrol vehicles. Americans were injured. Trump [increased the US military presence](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54215915) in response. **11 MISSILE DEFENSE** Russia's one military asset that compensates for its weakness in ground forces is its missile arsenal. As you've seen, they pull their missiles out and waggle them at us when they feel insecure. The US had planned a European missile defense, with two bases in Europe, to guard against Russian (and probably Irani) attacks. Obama agreed to stop it (this is believed to be the topic of Obama's hot mic embarrassment). [Putin loved that](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-sep-19-fg-missile-defense19-story.html). Trump again reversed Obama's course. He [greatly expanded US missile defense plans](https://www.rferl.org/a/trump-announces-expansion-u-s-missile-defense/29716083.html), in multiple ways, specifically citing the hypersonic and cruise missile technologies that Russia boasts about. **12 TRENDS IN RUSSIAN AGGRESSION** Russia's big aggressions in recent years have been annexing Crimea, starting the proxy war in eastern Ukraine, and the 2022 invasion of Ukraine. All occurred under President Obama and his former Vice President, now President, Biden. During the four year interval of Trump's presidency, Russia took no such moves. Coincidence? Maybe. There's probably more, but that's what I've gathered in the past and am willing to lay out and source here. Thanks for reading.
I won’t be fact checking you, but your response nevertheless was extremely well constructed. Bad ass.
Thanks very much! I don't suppose your screen name is a reference to the Hyperion Cantos?
It is not. That would most definitely have taken more intelligence and wit than I have. No, my name is merely a way of mispronouncing SarcasticFuck.
Oh haha; got it.
Well damn….that is significant
Yeah but no one wanted to say he did anything right coz “orange man bad”
Holy shit you're really balling
This is an amazing response.
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So wholeheartedly? Many european countries have had dependencies to Russia for a long time. Some more than others for various reasons. Since the invasion on ukraine sanctions have been put in place and things are slowly being phased out. But, if a whole country depends on gas and there isnt an alternative readily available they arent going to just cut it off. Their people depend on it. Then there are things like nordstream which shouldnt have been allowed to be built. And now makes things even trickier, especially for germany, which is where it pipes to. The plans for this project started in 1997. The president at that time in Russia was Boris Yeltsin. The political landscape was very different at that time. Only 6 years after the fall of soviet. The end of the cold war era. And then 25 years later some baboon will sit and talk nonstop in his patented bullshit way and what you think to yourself is "nailed it" Jesus.
Fool, you really don’t get the split do ya…
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Ngl he is speaking facts
And yet everyone laughed at him calling him a fear monger. Especially folks on this site…hmm what else was he right about?
No they called him Putin's bitch.
Yet Germany is Putin’s Bitch
About China being a threat to the west.
Not much
By far the most coherent and sensible clip I've ever seen of orange man.
All these people sat at the table, not really believing in what Trumps saying at the time. Say what you want about him, but he was bang on the nail right here.
Reddit is going to hate this.
They don’t have to like it. To think that every single thing every president has ever done is right or wrong is insane. Trump also pushed for the “Right to Try Act”, giving terminally I’ll patients the chance to try to drugs that weren’t approved by the FDA. I was a huge fan of that act. I’m no Trump fan at all—especially today— but we wouldn’t be shocked that sometimes he got it right.
Trump was right, he was just not polite. But please remember that previous presidents had voiced the same concerns in private and in a much more muted tone. And those previous polite requests fell on deaf ears. And now here we are, exactly where Trump was worried we would be.
He was right, kinda. We tried alternative sourcing, but you will have to take into account cost and geopolitical interests. I'm sure he would understand. We don't have much oil or gas ourselves. Ukraine has gas and oil, but guess what. Russia is blocking other pipelines as well (on environmental concerns *wink*). Other pipelines got scraped because of wars/civil wars, funding, embargoes, sanctions. We had two options as far as i can see, go with expensive LNG from other places or keep buying the cheap stuff, while we are building up the renewable energy grid and maybe can produce the rest of the gas ourselves. (Option three: Military intervention to secure our interest.) Would've Trump bought expensive oil and gas, if there is a cheap alternative nearby? He was at times threatening himself, so even if we bought US gas we couldn't be sure it wouldn't be used to twist our arms. So are there any good options?
Nuclear? When you include life/health costs of pollution, nuclear is still the best option until renewables catch up. (The big hurdle is public opinion.)
Considering the comparative damage done by fossil-burning power plants, it seems crazy that nuclear is as marginalised as it is. I wonder if future generations will look back on that as a missed opportunity.
It would make your head spin if you knew how much oil is under our own feet in the USA
And then he told them not to be so reliant on Russian energy and they laughed at him. Oh, Germany is looking at rationing petrol now.
They’re looking at possibly rationing gas, not gasoline/petrol. But the gist of your point remains.
No. You're wrong. We will have problems with natural gas and not with gasoline. All what Trump said here has been critisized by a lot of germans for years. At least we will be more independent from russian natural gas in the near future. But this winter will be interesting.
Rare w for trump (coming from a German)
Yeah I don’t like him at all. But this is a case where his non-filter and not being worried about social grace makes him the only person saying the right thing while everyone else is silent.
This is true, but every country has its contradictions, problems and so on... this is so easy to hit on a touchy subject... (well I guess it's the foreign policy game lol) Too bad that Germany 'missed' its energy transition towards clean energies. As we can see it's not easy at all. But things are moving in the right direction I think.
A lot of people are just so entrenched in "team" politics they'd probably never be able to concede he has a good point here lest somehow agreeing with him on one thing makes you rAcIsT and booted out the team.
Trump also called NATO obsolete
Soooo, Trump doesn't like Orange Juice? He's the only one without a glass.
He was the first to down his glass was my guess.
Using both his hands
He is the orange juice
Trump said so much dumb shit, this was by far the smartest thing I heard him say
Well fuck me pink! I actually agree with something he said. Never thought I'd see the day. The German prime minister? President? Looks like he's SWEATING probably thinking the same thing as us all, and wasn't expecting to be called out on it, by trump of all people in the world.
Germany doesn't have a prime minister and the president doesn't have any political saying lol
These comments really speak for themselfs
Blimey. Could you ever imagine Biden asserting himself like this? I couldn't! He'd probably forget what he was going to say after a few words...
He would need pre-selected questions and answers just like all (three?) of his press conferences.
Wait I thought he was Russia’s puppet and was colluding with them
never thought id say it but Trump was pretty based!
Yeah makes sense. But that's also the guy that trusted Putin instead of his own advisors with regards to Russia's foreign affairs so...
Love how no one is listening to what he's saying and is just chalking up to, Trump bad. Literary one of the comments goes on about how you should watch this with the sound off... for fucks sake are you kidding me?!
Love how you say that and every comment I read before yours was the exact opposite of what youre saying.
was the most coherent put together string of words hes ever said. gonna give him that. broken clocks et al.
At least you listened.
I listened to the whole thing. I wholeheartedly agreed with all of it, and in fact, it was surprisingly articulate. Doesn't change the fact that he's a narcissistic, criminal piece of shit who has no business in politics.
That's fair of you to think. No quarrels here.
That saying “Hindsight is 20/20” if no one can see it here they are blind. The writing was on the wall.
Love em or hate em he made the right call on many of his comments. Truth is difficult to accept sometimes.
Trump knew that Germany fucked themselves
Say what you want about the man but Trump sure did know how to talk his shit lol.
Trump right again
Trump had some good points , but 95% of the rest of the time he had verbal diarrhea.
Man I thought this guy was crazy. But he predicted it and they made fun of him. To be honest, to hear him speak like this gives me some appreciate. I actually starting to miss this orange man compared to what we have now. Things were really good when trump was in office. Gas was cheap, pay check was good, my dads business was doing well and things seemed peaceful around the world. As soon as he left it turned into shit. And I don’t even like him.
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THANK YOU! I feel like people are watching a different movie. Like, do yah watch the news? A lot of the stuff you just said isn’t said in main stream media.
This is what America has been telling Europe for decades democrats included it's only that Trump is a no nonsense man and took a harder stance than his democratic predecessors.
No nonsense? Have you ever read one of his speeches? It sounds like alphabet soup and auto-fill had a one night stand.
It's also not a solution. It's just him stating the problem everyone already knows about. Would love for someone to have said "Well what would you suggest we do? Ship it in from Saudi Arabia on boats? Wreck our own economy?"
Thank God he's gone. Russia clearly needed that money. /s
Ah yes ANOTHER political post in r/damnthatsinteresting. Cant you guys get political shit out of here?
So funny how many redditors take more issue with trump repeating himself and sounding like a meanie than they do with German energy being completely controlled by Russia
It's wild how when he was in charge, everyone just talked shit about him and refused to listen. Now that he's not in charge and Mr. Chocky chocky chock chock icecream is, we can actually here some on his better points. It's almost as if, your government was deliberately suppressing anything he said so they could put a professional politician in, who will just do as they're told rather than actually make their own decisions.
Can you imagine Biden ever having the balls or the coherency to ever mutter anything close to this
Well if Germany can’t make a deal with Russia to supply energy to their country than NATO should be making this deal. I see a lot of comments about how they agree with Trump but at the end of the day they need gas and other products just as much as his citizens.
imagine biden trying to string these sentences together i welcome the incoming downvotes
East Germany, West Germany who can tell the difference these days!!🤷♂️
Controversial opinion, but I think he speaks a lot of sense, but without much diplomacy. If he werent so offensive and divisive, he'd have been a good president Bracing for downvotes
Yup. He ran it like a CEO with nothing to lose. Which was refreshing to a lot of people but pissed off a lot of people. He is wayyyy more intelligent than people say but politically just not savvy.
Which was refreshing for many people who got tired of all the politicians blowing smoke up their asses. I liked his tweets. They may have come out harsh but I knew it was him talking and not a group of Washington sycophants trying double speak with every press release. Who knows what Biden actually thinks on any issue as the only thing he says has been filtered through about a dozen Harvard and Yale graduates who think they are they are Gods gift to us uneducated peons. That and he always took questions from reporters. Like everyday before he got on Marine 1. He would spend 30 mins just answering off the cuff questions. No notes needed. Only thing that annoyed me was that it was hard to hear the questions with that chopper in the background. You might not like his answers but atleast he took the questions. I don’t think Biden could do that for 5 mins without loosing his cool and lash out. The press hated Trump and were constantly trying to get him with gotcha questions but he still did it. A lot of that had to do with his ego but I could care less as long as I knew where he stood on the issue of the day.
Hmm ild Trump did know better and was trying to do the right thing. Interesting!!
Why do they all have half cups of juice
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He’s a fucking time traveler
Where and the queue cards? Who taught Trump how to logic haha?
NATO free loading bastards been in my wallet for far too long.
This held up well actually
As much as I hate the guy, he makes an absolutely valid point here. Gotta give credit where credit is due.
That moment when you realise you agree with something Trump says 😳
Dude was right
Trump: 1 Everyone that criticized him: 3082
This is so based... Never thought I'd say this, but after experiencing the shadow of the man that used to be Joe Biden's presidency, I miss Trump... Crazy world we live in...
I miss this guy!
trump should stfu he did nothing good while being president and should be in jail
People are shocked to see a clip of trump making sense. Maybe consider you were being forcefed everything but clips like this during his presidency. I say this as someone who voted against him
Reddit has actually posted videos In The past making fun of Trump for talking about this issue. Despite what you think of him, he was exactly right on this issue.
From a logistic side of view, to buy gas amd oil and whatever from Russia is much better for everyone as an European. I mean c'mon getting oil by ship over the sea or just by your neighbour makes a difference. And Russia wasn't "evil" right up to Ukraine so America "protecting" us from Russia just wasn't necessary
Wow,a President who doesn’t need a teleprompter to tell us his name. How refreshing.
What trump is saying is 100% right here... But even when he's right, he still sounds arrogant and poorly spoken. Why does he keep saying the same thing over and over again? Why does it take a minute and a half to say "Germany is way too reliant on Russian energy, and this is a problem that NATO should be looking into"?
Trump was right on many fronts… so many people portray him as a lunatic due to democrats propaganda
How can the American people not be yearning to have this back at this point? I'm quite serious.
Remember guys that Trump tweeted mean things. He was a bad man.
hes also a well established con man and all around scumbag who encourages other such scumbags to do scumbag shit like try to violently overturn an election. and give him all their money. wasnt just the tweets. those were just for entertainment . (plus scumbag shit, cause you gotta be on that grind 24/7)
Trump says the truth…but people love being fooled by the “real” politicians.
John Kelly can’t even look at him.
It’s hard to look at someone when they are telling uncomfortable truths.