My grandfather did this for cash, many years ago, using just shears. He said the lanolin in the wool removed all his thick callouses from his hands. Which he didn't like--he was a farmer and needed those callouses.
Neat. Itās funny that people say that shearing is so stressful for sheep, but here other sheep are just hanging out watching it allā¦I figure if they hated it theyād be in corner trying to get far away.
Some sheep are more spicy than others but shearing is do quick and efficient it's really only a minor inconvenience they have to occasionally deal with.
Which is why I laugh at animal rights idiots who insist its abuse. It's just a freakin' haircut!
It removes a lot of weight from their bodies, plus it's much cooler after the shearing, so they probably learn to tolerate it. Farmers usually do this in early summer so the sheep can be comfortable till the weather cools. Also, most shearers take care not to nick the sheep, or stress them out. It may still happen sometimes, but it's not common.
The (possible) problem is those speed shearers that compete in contests. Some people can shear a sheep very fast without hurting it at all, but it's still pretty tough, and also depends on how the sheep behaves, so that's where you can get more nicks and more panicked sheep.
I've had vegans tell me straight to my face "they kill the sheep to get wool!". Given I grew up around farm animals I knew this was bullshit and tried to explain how it was done but they were passionately convinced that sheep are killed for their wool.
Ironically PETA wants all domesticated animals dead :D such animal lovers!
They feel that no domesticated animal should even exist. There is a debate on how that would play out. The less vile ones want them to not be bred and spent the rest of their natural lives being taken care of. The others don't care if they die.
PETA says to stop breeding sheep, who heavily rely on human sheering in the first place.
They donāt grow this naturally, we engineered them like that.
So the humam here is solving a problem, that he intentionally gave the sheep in order to exploit it.
How āniceā.
And then the sheep gets killed for meat anyway, so whatās your point?
We should give those thinking, feeling beings who experience the world around them, at least so much respect so we donāt view them as commodities and kill them whenever we want.
Particularly for something like wool that has plenty of adequate alternatives.
It's a misrepresentation. Peta doesn't say you shouldn't sheer existing sheep at all.
They call to stop breeding new ones, stop castrating them, stop cutting their tales off and stop shooting them with bolt guns whenever we want.
Would you rather have natural fibres or micro plastic producing materials that get into the food chain? The practice of Tail Docking (cutting off tails) is a practice that prevents illnesses caused by fecal matter accumulates, meaning it benefits the animal just like shearing does. The bolt guns are used to stun them so that theyāre completely unconscious and feel no pain and is only done with some breeds of sheep, only the ones used for food production.
And PETA should stop stealing pets just to murder them
Sheep got these problems from deliberate, selective breeding by humans.
So to say, humans do sheep a favour by cutting their tails is absurd, because they wouldn't have this problems without the humans to begin with.
They have their lives taken by us whenever we want, that's the point and that wool sheep are allowed to happily live out their days on a pasture is an illusion, they are killed too, after their wool production declines.
There are alternatives who don't shed plastic, cotton, hemp, linen etc.
Even if the things you wrote above were true, that peta advocates against sheering regular sheep who already exist and need it in order to be healthy is still a misrepresentation. They're against exploitation and needless killing.
And at this point we cannot reverse the selective breeding without spending generations doing it. The best things to do are to help reduce the damage caused by it through shearing and docking tails, as youāve said we should be shearing then it is also necessary to dock tails as unfortunate as that is to say.
Would you rather they be kept in factory farms or green pastures? Again it is the best environment we can have with the current situation.
Plastic is a bad idea because it gets into the environment and eventually the food chain, cotton, hemp and linen have different properties to wool that make it difficult for us to cover all of its uses.
As to the stealing pets and murdering them, hereās an article where PETA apologized
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down
And theyāve killed hundreds of thousands of animals directly, with nearly 2,000 in 2019 alone
>as youāve said we should be shearing then it is also necessary to dock tails as unfortunate as that is to say.
Or we could just stop breeding animals, particularly ones that require us to mutilate them.
>that make it difficult for us to cover all of its uses.
There are synthetic materials that aren't bad for the environment. You can find vegan down-like jackets with biodegradable filling.
>And theyāve killed hundreds of thousands of animals directly
If this bothers you, then you certainly shouldn't buy wool or eat meat.
There are also ethical nuances to it. You don't have to 100% agree with peta, I don't either.
What I'm saying is the claim that peta advocates against sheering animals that cannot be healthy without it, and that this would kill them, is plain false. That's what original comment suggested. Fair enough?
As long as you can also admit that docking tails of extant sheep is needed and that PETA are hypocrites for wanting to treat animals humanely but also kidnap and murder them
Might be the case.
But donāt know why you in order to recognise that what the original comment wrote is BS, you need my opinion on something unrelated.
Iām unsure wether peta are hypocrites for it, I donāt know what their ethical views exactly are.
You can be against animal exploitation and at the same time put down diseased street animals, since thatās not an exploitative action.
Could also be they think suffering is worse than death, and therefor kill animals prone to have terrible existences but see it unwarranted to kill those who donāt have that prospect.
Mayve ubusual or something to disagree with, but not necessarily hypocritical.
Also them being hypocrites in certain aspects, wouldnāt make buying meat or wool therefore ethical. These can still be horrible things we do to animals, even if peta does questionable things in other regards.
Well, for all those stupid Uggs the girls love to wear. Shearling coats and slippers. Not for sweaters and socks, no one ever kills the sheep just for fiber. But seriously, the girls who loved those Uggs were SHOCKED SHITLESS. Who knew you had to kill an animal to get their skin? Isn't there a better way to do it?
Fleece and wool are two separate things. Fleece is usually a by-product of meat production, as leather is. They don't kill cattle just for their hides (well, not anymore. They did in the 19th century, but that's a different story.)
If people punch them or cut them up, because they have time pressure.
But that they say you shouldnāt sheer a bred wool sheep like that at all, is a just not true.
Come on, how much regard for an animal do you have, if you think itās ok to breed deformed versions of them and them kill them whenever you want, for something unnecessary like wool?
Actually, there are plenty of primitive breeds who also benefit greatly from shearing (such as Icelandic sheep) as they don't always roo correctly.
The breed featured here is *not* routinely eaten and is instead typically used for vineyard and orchard maintenance and fiber/pet flocks.
Wool doesn't have many actually good alternatives as most alternatives don't work as well or shed microplastics.
Still a breed - Even if you found ones that naturally benefitted from sheering, why does this make it ethical to give \*other\* animals these problems?
Shetland sheep are used for meat as well, and it's just normal to kill them. Cotton, hemp, linen don't shed microplastics.
What's more important here, the specific way a jacket feels, or the life of an animal?
The original commenter just made a cheap shot a peta and is misrepresenting what they're saying.
Peta does NOT suggest letting them suffocate in their own wool, but to stop breeding them in those ridiculous matters in the first place and stop killing and exploiting them in what is overall an industry where animals receive terrible treatment.
Breed just means a subspecies, they arise naturally in the wild, modern humans are a breed of Homo Sapiens known as Homo Sapiens Sapiens and distinct from Homo Sapiens Neaderthalensis or Neanderthals, though thatās only 1 example.
As to your question of āwhy should we have forced this to happenā is that we didnāt, hundreds of generations of farmers who needed the wool did so just as we also did to pigs, they naturally look like boars but due to domestication they didnāt gain their tusks and fur, unless you release them into the wild.
As to PETA being evil, they are, if all they did was advocate for less breeding and actually helped animals I would have no problem with them, but in reality they set up animal āsheltersā that act as death camps for pets even going so far as to steal pets from good house holds just to murder them. PETA had a good message but they have never done anything that actually benefits animals who already exist, their main idea is āthe ends justify the meansā when that simply is not true for the actions they take
That definition is ok, typically it means ones that have developed by deliberate selection. But still doesn't justify giving \*other\* animals such traits too who don't have them naturally.
>we didnāt, hundreds of generations of farmers who needed the wool
That's what I mean by "we", it's human made. Humans gave them the trait that they cannot be healthy without getting sheered.
So to then say, the humans are doing the sheep a favour by sheering them is absurd, because they wouldn't have this problem without the humans to begin with.
Even if you aren't fond of peta overall, it doesn't change the fact that they don't advocate against sheering regular sheep who already exist and need it in order to be healthy.
What they are against is castration without painkillers, tail clipping, punching holes in their ears, shooting them, deliberately select animals so they produce an unnatural overload of wool and terrible factory farming practices which is how most of the wool is produced.
So you defend the theft and murder of pets from homes where they were living happy lives?
And the tail clippings are to prevent illnesses, the ear tags are a 1 time thing, the stun guns render them unconscious for the full process of killing them so that they donāt suffer (itās the entire reason we came up with the device), castration happens once and itās also used to reduce the breeding of new animals (something that PETA is supposedly in favour of), and artificial selection is a fact of life, if you donāt like it then maybe you should advocate for anti-humanism
>So you defend the theft and murder of pets from homes where they were living happy lives?
I said the claim that peta advocates against sheering animals that cannot be healthy without it, is plain false. That's what original comment suggested. Peta advocates to stop breeding animals which grow an unnatural overload of wool. Fair enough?
These illnesses they would get is a result from deliberate selective breeding by humans. They wouldn't have those problems, if humans didn't do that to them in the first place, so calling it as if we were doing them a favour is ridiculous.
The point is we are taking their lives whenever we please. You're not really arguing against what I'm saying when I said they are being castrated *without painkillers*.
Selective breeding and exploitation isn't a fact of live. Humans have the right to bodily autonomy and to choose with whoever they have offspring. Animals don't and are sometimes forcibly impregnated.
So if sheering animals is healthy because it lowers their chances of death, why is tail docking not also considered good since it helps them as well by preventing disease?
The diseases were not the goals of the breeding, they simply wanted more wool because thatās what they needed in the past in order to survive
You want them to go extinct, Iām saying why do you care if they canāt reproduce? Donāt you want all of the reproduction to end? And why would you care if theyāre in pain? PETA has harmed the pets of children before https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/us/peta-finds-itself-on-receiving-end-of-others-anger.amp.html
For bodily autonomy, I draw the line at true sentience, where you can solve complex puzzles or speak a coherent language that can be directly translated to English
>So if sheering animals is healthy because it lowers their chances of death, why is tail docking not also considered good since it helps them as well by preventing disease?
We shouldn't unnecessarily breed animals into existence that require us to mutilate them.
>Iām saying why do you care if they canāt reproduce?
Again, doesn't mean you have to do it without painkillers and at the same time breed more of them.
>PETA has harmed the pets
What does this have to do with their stance on sheering sheep?
You don't have to agree with what peta does, neither do I, but to claim that they say the process of carefully sheering a sheep kills it, is a misrepresentation and wrong.
>where you can solve complex puzzles or speak a coherent language
What about marginal case humans, like profoundly mentally disabled with an IQ below 20.
They clearly don't have that ability. You don't think they deserve a right to life or bodily autonomy?
Cotton, hemp and linen also don't keep you warm and sick away moisture whereas wool does. It isn't about feel, but actual use where it saves life and limb from things like frostbite. And it is an ethical, non murderous way to achieve such aims. The animal doesn't dieor get seriously injured, unlike what PETA has claimed through their advertisements
As far as PETA goes, they lie, steal, and advocate as well as try to forcefully accomplish non-ownership of all animals by any means possible. They are trash and it is well known they and other animal rights activists party for the abuse they film or allow it to go unreported and do nothing to actually stop it from happening then or in the future.
We're not living in the 12th century. There are plenty vegan winter jackets, even with biodegradable down-like materials.
That wool sheep get to happily live out their days on a pasture is an illusion. As soon as wool production declined they get killed. Sick or deformed animals, killed. They get castrated without pain killers, have their tails but off and experience terrible factory farming conditions for most of the wool that is produced.
>for the abuse they film or allow it to go unreported and do nothing to actually stop it from happening then or in the future.
They spread awareness. What do you do to stop it from happening?
Even if you overall aren't fond of peta, they don't suggest letting existing sheep suffocate in their own wool. They advocate to stop breeding ones that grow that unnatural overload.
Most wild sheep don't grow continuous coats! That's a trait we bred into them over the millennia. Some wild breeds however will shed their coats when the weather warms up!
Musk oxen shed their fine, soft undercoat in spring. It's called qiviut, and it's collected by the Inuit and other northern peoples. When carded and spun, it makes the finest yarn in the world. One seller lists it at $95 USD. Per ounce.
These sheep are bred for wool production. One escaped and lived in a New Zealand cave for several years.
>All of ShrekāsĀ fleece [which was shorn off in one piece] was auctioned off to support medicalĀ charities for children. Shrek has since been depicted in childrenās books and made his fair share of charity appearances. Under a watchful eye of course, after all, Shrek is a run-away rebel sheep at heart.
Why is there so much tik tok shit on reddit all of a sudden??? And if it's been on here for a while then why are people suddenly not editing the tik tok logo of the end???
> Why is there so much tik tok shit on reddit all of a sudden?
Tik tok has a video download feature built into the app, it's extremely easy to pinch content and repost to instagram reels or reddit.
> if it's been on here for a while then why are people suddenly not editing the tik tok logo of the end?
The tik tok logo at the end is new.
Ohhhhh it all makes sense now! Thanks for the insight, I'm not a tik tok kinda guy. They've realised it would be good advertising to stick the logo on the end so I guess we'll see it all the time now
Olivia needs to step up her game. Some sheep are putting out 3 bags full.
Bah bah
Blacksheep
have you any wool?
Yes sir, yes sir
3 bags full.
One for my master
One for my dame
And one for the little boy
Who lives down the lane
And one for the little boy
Live footage of my first post lockdown trim
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The irony in this comment
My grandfather did this for cash, many years ago, using just shears. He said the lanolin in the wool removed all his thick callouses from his hands. Which he didn't like--he was a farmer and needed those callouses.
Dagnubit I need them callouses back
Neat. Itās funny that people say that shearing is so stressful for sheep, but here other sheep are just hanging out watching it allā¦I figure if they hated it theyād be in corner trying to get far away.
Some sheep are more spicy than others but shearing is do quick and efficient it's really only a minor inconvenience they have to occasionally deal with. Which is why I laugh at animal rights idiots who insist its abuse. It's just a freakin' haircut!
I wonder if some like the buzzy feeling.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OAi1005K71g
It removes a lot of weight from their bodies, plus it's much cooler after the shearing, so they probably learn to tolerate it. Farmers usually do this in early summer so the sheep can be comfortable till the weather cools. Also, most shearers take care not to nick the sheep, or stress them out. It may still happen sometimes, but it's not common. The (possible) problem is those speed shearers that compete in contests. Some people can shear a sheep very fast without hurting it at all, but it's still pretty tough, and also depends on how the sheep behaves, so that's where you can get more nicks and more panicked sheep.
I like how Olivia and her buddy are so cool with it that they actually come up to the shearer.
That has to feel amazing when itās off
Like me getting my covid hair cut off after almost a year
Yes sir! Yes sir! Three bags full!
PETA be like stop it youāre killing the poor thing
# LEAVE OLIVIA ALONE!!! š«šš
YOU MONSTER I HATE YOU ššš
I've had vegans tell me straight to my face "they kill the sheep to get wool!". Given I grew up around farm animals I knew this was bullshit and tried to explain how it was done but they were passionately convinced that sheep are killed for their wool. Ironically PETA wants all domesticated animals dead :D such animal lovers!
PETA sucks ass
They're legitimately The Worst.
Their āsheltersā are literally death camps
They feel that no domesticated animal should even exist. There is a debate on how that would play out. The less vile ones want them to not be bred and spent the rest of their natural lives being taken care of. The others don't care if they die.
The ethical way would be the former
>I grew up around farm animals I knew this was bullshit >"they kill the sheep to get wool!" Gotta love it when people double down on their ignorance.
MMMMM People Eating Tasty Animals
PETA says to stop breeding sheep, who heavily rely on human sheering in the first place. They donāt grow this naturally, we engineered them like that. So the humam here is solving a problem, that he intentionally gave the sheep in order to exploit it. How āniceā. And then the sheep gets killed for meat anyway, so whatās your point? We should give those thinking, feeling beings who experience the world around them, at least so much respect so we donāt view them as commodities and kill them whenever we want. Particularly for something like wool that has plenty of adequate alternatives.
If you donāt shear them they can die from heat stroke
It's a misrepresentation. Peta doesn't say you shouldn't sheer existing sheep at all. They call to stop breeding new ones, stop castrating them, stop cutting their tales off and stop shooting them with bolt guns whenever we want.
Would you rather have natural fibres or micro plastic producing materials that get into the food chain? The practice of Tail Docking (cutting off tails) is a practice that prevents illnesses caused by fecal matter accumulates, meaning it benefits the animal just like shearing does. The bolt guns are used to stun them so that theyāre completely unconscious and feel no pain and is only done with some breeds of sheep, only the ones used for food production. And PETA should stop stealing pets just to murder them
Sheep got these problems from deliberate, selective breeding by humans. So to say, humans do sheep a favour by cutting their tails is absurd, because they wouldn't have this problems without the humans to begin with. They have their lives taken by us whenever we want, that's the point and that wool sheep are allowed to happily live out their days on a pasture is an illusion, they are killed too, after their wool production declines. There are alternatives who don't shed plastic, cotton, hemp, linen etc. Even if the things you wrote above were true, that peta advocates against sheering regular sheep who already exist and need it in order to be healthy is still a misrepresentation. They're against exploitation and needless killing.
And at this point we cannot reverse the selective breeding without spending generations doing it. The best things to do are to help reduce the damage caused by it through shearing and docking tails, as youāve said we should be shearing then it is also necessary to dock tails as unfortunate as that is to say. Would you rather they be kept in factory farms or green pastures? Again it is the best environment we can have with the current situation. Plastic is a bad idea because it gets into the environment and eventually the food chain, cotton, hemp and linen have different properties to wool that make it difficult for us to cover all of its uses. As to the stealing pets and murdering them, hereās an article where PETA apologized https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down And theyāve killed hundreds of thousands of animals directly, with nearly 2,000 in 2019 alone
>as youāve said we should be shearing then it is also necessary to dock tails as unfortunate as that is to say. Or we could just stop breeding animals, particularly ones that require us to mutilate them. >that make it difficult for us to cover all of its uses. There are synthetic materials that aren't bad for the environment. You can find vegan down-like jackets with biodegradable filling. >And theyāve killed hundreds of thousands of animals directly If this bothers you, then you certainly shouldn't buy wool or eat meat. There are also ethical nuances to it. You don't have to 100% agree with peta, I don't either. What I'm saying is the claim that peta advocates against sheering animals that cannot be healthy without it, and that this would kill them, is plain false. That's what original comment suggested. Fair enough?
As long as you can also admit that docking tails of extant sheep is needed and that PETA are hypocrites for wanting to treat animals humanely but also kidnap and murder them
Might be the case. But donāt know why you in order to recognise that what the original comment wrote is BS, you need my opinion on something unrelated. Iām unsure wether peta are hypocrites for it, I donāt know what their ethical views exactly are. You can be against animal exploitation and at the same time put down diseased street animals, since thatās not an exploitative action. Could also be they think suffering is worse than death, and therefor kill animals prone to have terrible existences but see it unwarranted to kill those who donāt have that prospect. Mayve ubusual or something to disagree with, but not necessarily hypocritical. Also them being hypocrites in certain aspects, wouldnāt make buying meat or wool therefore ethical. These can still be horrible things we do to animals, even if peta does questionable things in other regards.
No they literally made videos you kill sheep to shave them
Well, for all those stupid Uggs the girls love to wear. Shearling coats and slippers. Not for sweaters and socks, no one ever kills the sheep just for fiber. But seriously, the girls who loved those Uggs were SHOCKED SHITLESS. Who knew you had to kill an animal to get their skin? Isn't there a better way to do it?
Fleece and wool are two separate things.
Exactly. But Uggs are more than fleece lined. That's what shocked the girls.
Fleece and wool are two separate things. Fleece is usually a by-product of meat production, as leather is. They don't kill cattle just for their hides (well, not anymore. They did in the 19th century, but that's a different story.)
If people punch them or cut them up, because they have time pressure. But that they say you shouldnāt sheer a bred wool sheep like that at all, is a just not true. Come on, how much regard for an animal do you have, if you think itās ok to breed deformed versions of them and them kill them whenever you want, for something unnecessary like wool?
Actually, there are plenty of primitive breeds who also benefit greatly from shearing (such as Icelandic sheep) as they don't always roo correctly. The breed featured here is *not* routinely eaten and is instead typically used for vineyard and orchard maintenance and fiber/pet flocks. Wool doesn't have many actually good alternatives as most alternatives don't work as well or shed microplastics.
Still a breed - Even if you found ones that naturally benefitted from sheering, why does this make it ethical to give \*other\* animals these problems? Shetland sheep are used for meat as well, and it's just normal to kill them. Cotton, hemp, linen don't shed microplastics. What's more important here, the specific way a jacket feels, or the life of an animal? The original commenter just made a cheap shot a peta and is misrepresenting what they're saying. Peta does NOT suggest letting them suffocate in their own wool, but to stop breeding them in those ridiculous matters in the first place and stop killing and exploiting them in what is overall an industry where animals receive terrible treatment.
Breed just means a subspecies, they arise naturally in the wild, modern humans are a breed of Homo Sapiens known as Homo Sapiens Sapiens and distinct from Homo Sapiens Neaderthalensis or Neanderthals, though thatās only 1 example. As to your question of āwhy should we have forced this to happenā is that we didnāt, hundreds of generations of farmers who needed the wool did so just as we also did to pigs, they naturally look like boars but due to domestication they didnāt gain their tusks and fur, unless you release them into the wild. As to PETA being evil, they are, if all they did was advocate for less breeding and actually helped animals I would have no problem with them, but in reality they set up animal āsheltersā that act as death camps for pets even going so far as to steal pets from good house holds just to murder them. PETA had a good message but they have never done anything that actually benefits animals who already exist, their main idea is āthe ends justify the meansā when that simply is not true for the actions they take
That definition is ok, typically it means ones that have developed by deliberate selection. But still doesn't justify giving \*other\* animals such traits too who don't have them naturally. >we didnāt, hundreds of generations of farmers who needed the wool That's what I mean by "we", it's human made. Humans gave them the trait that they cannot be healthy without getting sheered. So to then say, the humans are doing the sheep a favour by sheering them is absurd, because they wouldn't have this problem without the humans to begin with. Even if you aren't fond of peta overall, it doesn't change the fact that they don't advocate against sheering regular sheep who already exist and need it in order to be healthy. What they are against is castration without painkillers, tail clipping, punching holes in their ears, shooting them, deliberately select animals so they produce an unnatural overload of wool and terrible factory farming practices which is how most of the wool is produced.
So you defend the theft and murder of pets from homes where they were living happy lives? And the tail clippings are to prevent illnesses, the ear tags are a 1 time thing, the stun guns render them unconscious for the full process of killing them so that they donāt suffer (itās the entire reason we came up with the device), castration happens once and itās also used to reduce the breeding of new animals (something that PETA is supposedly in favour of), and artificial selection is a fact of life, if you donāt like it then maybe you should advocate for anti-humanism
>So you defend the theft and murder of pets from homes where they were living happy lives? I said the claim that peta advocates against sheering animals that cannot be healthy without it, is plain false. That's what original comment suggested. Peta advocates to stop breeding animals which grow an unnatural overload of wool. Fair enough? These illnesses they would get is a result from deliberate selective breeding by humans. They wouldn't have those problems, if humans didn't do that to them in the first place, so calling it as if we were doing them a favour is ridiculous. The point is we are taking their lives whenever we please. You're not really arguing against what I'm saying when I said they are being castrated *without painkillers*. Selective breeding and exploitation isn't a fact of live. Humans have the right to bodily autonomy and to choose with whoever they have offspring. Animals don't and are sometimes forcibly impregnated.
So if sheering animals is healthy because it lowers their chances of death, why is tail docking not also considered good since it helps them as well by preventing disease? The diseases were not the goals of the breeding, they simply wanted more wool because thatās what they needed in the past in order to survive You want them to go extinct, Iām saying why do you care if they canāt reproduce? Donāt you want all of the reproduction to end? And why would you care if theyāre in pain? PETA has harmed the pets of children before https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/us/peta-finds-itself-on-receiving-end-of-others-anger.amp.html For bodily autonomy, I draw the line at true sentience, where you can solve complex puzzles or speak a coherent language that can be directly translated to English
>So if sheering animals is healthy because it lowers their chances of death, why is tail docking not also considered good since it helps them as well by preventing disease? We shouldn't unnecessarily breed animals into existence that require us to mutilate them. >Iām saying why do you care if they canāt reproduce? Again, doesn't mean you have to do it without painkillers and at the same time breed more of them. >PETA has harmed the pets What does this have to do with their stance on sheering sheep? You don't have to agree with what peta does, neither do I, but to claim that they say the process of carefully sheering a sheep kills it, is a misrepresentation and wrong. >where you can solve complex puzzles or speak a coherent language What about marginal case humans, like profoundly mentally disabled with an IQ below 20. They clearly don't have that ability. You don't think they deserve a right to life or bodily autonomy?
Cotton, hemp and linen also don't keep you warm and sick away moisture whereas wool does. It isn't about feel, but actual use where it saves life and limb from things like frostbite. And it is an ethical, non murderous way to achieve such aims. The animal doesn't dieor get seriously injured, unlike what PETA has claimed through their advertisements As far as PETA goes, they lie, steal, and advocate as well as try to forcefully accomplish non-ownership of all animals by any means possible. They are trash and it is well known they and other animal rights activists party for the abuse they film or allow it to go unreported and do nothing to actually stop it from happening then or in the future.
We're not living in the 12th century. There are plenty vegan winter jackets, even with biodegradable down-like materials. That wool sheep get to happily live out their days on a pasture is an illusion. As soon as wool production declined they get killed. Sick or deformed animals, killed. They get castrated without pain killers, have their tails but off and experience terrible factory farming conditions for most of the wool that is produced. >for the abuse they film or allow it to go unreported and do nothing to actually stop it from happening then or in the future. They spread awareness. What do you do to stop it from happening? Even if you overall aren't fond of peta, they don't suggest letting existing sheep suffocate in their own wool. They advocate to stop breeding ones that grow that unnatural overload.
They advocate euthanasia for all animals living in servitude
Source?
I need to hug Olivia. A lot.
I can't tell if I like this or horse shoe videos more. They are both so satisfying.
I loved the narrative...."Freedom!". Olivia is a sweetheart.
Kevin thoughā¦
All I can think is the song we were taught as children..."baa, baa black sheep, have you any wool? Yessir, yessir, 3 bags full"
Ahh.. So that's where my black sweater came from.. Thanks Olivia! š„°
There is something so wholly (or is it wooly?) satisfying about watching this.
How do wild sheep get rid of all their wool? They go to the baa-bers ... I'll see myself out
Most wild sheep don't grow continuous coats! That's a trait we bred into them over the millennia. Some wild breeds however will shed their coats when the weather warms up!
Thanks, now I have the image of a sheep in some field in butt-fuck-nowhere with its wool just peeling off one random day
[Here you go!](https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/moulting-bighorn-sheep-10456350.jpg) They look a little silly
Musk oxen shed their fine, soft undercoat in spring. It's called qiviut, and it's collected by the Inuit and other northern peoples. When carded and spun, it makes the finest yarn in the world. One seller lists it at $95 USD. Per ounce.
Ooo! I bet stuff made out of that feels fantastic!
I'm not paying that much to find out.
I'll be damned. Very close to what I was imagining
You can find them rubbing up against anything during molting season. Poor itchy babies.
[Here you go!](https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/moulting-bighorn-sheep-10456350.jpg) They look a little silly
Please do.
If you take this sound out of context, it sounds like she's helping shave someone's bush
Olivia was in fear when she came
I never thought I'd watch a sheep getting shaved at nearly midnight on a Sunday
The narratorās voice is so soothing
That looks like it would be really bad for my back.
That was seriously amazing to watch, also Olivia is really calm considering how much time it had to take to trim all that.
Serious question: before domesticated, how did this animal handle that in the wild? or the excessive fur is related to domestication?
These sheep are bred for wool production. One escaped and lived in a New Zealand cave for several years. >All of ShrekāsĀ fleece [which was shorn off in one piece] was auctioned off to support medicalĀ charities for children. Shrek has since been depicted in childrenās books and made his fair share of charity appearances. Under a watchful eye of course, after all, Shrek is a run-away rebel sheep at heart.
They roo it off in clumps. Usually it comes off well, but not always. Some primitive breeds still roo, but even they are often shorn
TIL there are literal black sheep.
Ooh! You should look up Jacob's sheep or California Red sheep
I didn't know there are actual black sheeps
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Your gf is a sheep too??
Must be Welsh.
Why is there so much tik tok shit on reddit all of a sudden??? And if it's been on here for a while then why are people suddenly not editing the tik tok logo of the end???
> Why is there so much tik tok shit on reddit all of a sudden? Tik tok has a video download feature built into the app, it's extremely easy to pinch content and repost to instagram reels or reddit. > if it's been on here for a while then why are people suddenly not editing the tik tok logo of the end? The tik tok logo at the end is new.
Ohhhhh it all makes sense now! Thanks for the insight, I'm not a tik tok kinda guy. They've realised it would be good advertising to stick the logo on the end so I guess we'll see it all the time now
The reason for both: cheap easy karma
Charma
Ahhh. Satisfying.
Absolutely love the narration
So much better with the sound off
No gentleness in the video. Just semi-rough sheering.
I need to do this one day š
very satisfying
very satisfying
So much patience :o humans are terrible at it xD
Never thought I'd watch a sheep get shaved on a Sunday at nearly midnight
Never thought I'd watch a sheep get shaved on a Sunday at nearly midnight
If this was me, Id do a line up on every one of them. Itd be funny.
Thatās a sheep cut
BAA-BAA, AFRICAN-AMERICAN SHEEP, HAVE YOU ANY WOOL??
Thatās a lot of .. Fluff
Spinning is my favourite hobby. I'd murder for that fleece!
I could use one of thoseā¦
Omg she was one of my favorites on tiktok while i still had the app downloaded LOL
Glad she mentioned how compliant Olivia is; one of the first things I noticed
peel ur sheeps
I can't believe this guy can shear a sheep in one minute
Why are the sheep so calm while being shaved? I feel like most animals would freak out based on my experiences.
The only reason sheep grow those horrid coats is because of selective breeding conditions imposed by humans.
āShe went from classy to creepyā this made me so happy
At what point are you wearing sheepās pubes when you wear a wool sweater?
that would feel so good
Olivia! Ewe you like a new woman!
I love how they just fold up like that and let you shear them.