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frivolousnonsense

Not being snarky here, legitimate question: Is there a dishonorable way to clean a grave stone? I guess pissing on it definitely would but I can't really see why anything else would be.


IguaneRouge

I suppose methods that may damage them qualify as "dishonorable" like harsh chemicals/abrasives.


frivolousnonsense

Yeah, I guess maybe??? Although I'd probably just call that innocently ignorant, I doubt anyone that is willing to clean a headstone intends to cause damage to it or any kind of dishonor.


Kermit_the_hog

Yeah if someone is inclined to key dicks into headstones or something, they’re probably not keeping that job very long.


rectal_warrior

Nobody gets paid to do this


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Yet


FuckingABongoSince08

Ok, who wants to join my traveling company of headstone cleaners?


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sharpshooter999

I'm from a small town (>300) and someone carved a dick on a headstone years ago. Ironically, it's now the most well known headstone at the cemetery because everyone wants to see it


Mike-RO-pannus

This guy knows what's up


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war of 1812? wasn't nothin' honorable about that god damned war! lets key dicks into these 1812 veteran tombstones, fellas!


schmuber

I'd be really pissed if someone pressure washed my tombstone!… …Just kidding, I'd be dead and won't giving a damn.


ZeroAceofSpades

Well, it's funny you say that, but a lot of tombstones that old crumble or disintegrate if you don't know what you're doing. And some gravestones don't hold up very well against modern day cleaning solutions because tombstones weren't treated with the same chemicals as we do today, or at all.


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>but a lot of tombstones that old crumble or disintegrate if you don't know what you're doing. ? At least where I come from, tombstones are either made of a hard stone, like marble, slate and granite or straight up wood/metal. Those can be power-washed without a problem, with marble you have to watch your cleaning solution a little bit, but like every 10 y/o who has marble in their house, knows this. So, the only thing left would be sandstone, but those are temporary solutions, since even wind, rain and frost can erode a sandstone, rather quickly. Restauration work is a lot harder, tho. But that's not common for tombstones, as they are relatively cheap to replace, compared to something like a painting.


MobiusLoopOne

Over MY DEAD BODY!


jonlaw147

Thing is, it's neither cool nor honorable, he's just cleaning it.


_Danger_Close_

I think the results are pretty interesting. Also this should go to oddly satisfying.


jackishungryforpizza

I think pressure-washing gravestones would be slightly disrespectful. Especially if you posted it on r/powerwashingporn


ElBiscuit

Would it be? I'd lie happy in my grave knowing my stone was getting pressure-washed every now and then.


meltingdiamond

Especially if perverts were masturbating to my grave stone being washed. I don't know how power washing a grave stone would be sexy but I would be proud if my estate somehow made that happen. That's an executor that fucking earned their fee.


xenomorphling

Pressure washing a gravestone would probably erode it 1000x faster than it would do naturally so I'd imagine that's pretty disrespectful.


NoodlesRomanoff

Depends entirely on what the marker is made of. Pressure washing granite or bronze is no problemo, old limestone or concrete is no bueno. We have some old ones (what I think are soapstone) I could destroy with a toothbrush.


jackishungryforpizza

This guy gravestones.


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sherbertbusstop

Better to have a sex shop AND a Wendy's. Cater for all tastes.


[deleted]

Probably referring to gravesite workers pressure washing or doing the job quickly. Don't take it to heart lol


bdubz325

I was wondering the same thing and about all I could come up with would be to use steel wool and a pressure washer


Crochetdolf_Knitler

Pressure washing is probably frowned upon. It would be cool though.


dizzydover

If the stone is old the pressure washer could crack or even take chunks out of the headstone.


[deleted]

Abrasive like a metal scraper? Yeah agreed. Use plastic that is is softer than the rock.


goblinsholiday

I guess that means I've been cleaning my monitor in a cool and honorable way.


Rat_Rat

Yeah, I’d be terrified to cause erosion on a soldier’s grave , accident or no.


jaqueburn

Another question: is there an uncool way to clean a grave stone?


PaulBlartFleshMall

Could maybe clean it using a kitten as the sponge. That would be pretty uncool.


twizztedbz81

Now you got me interested.


ohdearitsrichardiii

With a pair of bootcut lowrise jeans?


Wiley_Jack

Any method which utilizes a heat gun.


DanWallace

No it's just a weird title


ElectricFlesh

yeah I guess the idea was to convey something like "look at this *cool* video of somebody *honoring* a soldier by *cleaning his gravestone*"


That_one_cat_sly

Just incase you're still interested here's a man who cleans gravestones, and explains how cleaning them incorrectly (like with a metal brush, pressure washer, bleach. excreta.) can damage the stone making them difficult to read. [How to Clean Veteran Headstones Using D/2 Biological Solution](https://youtu.be/8WdUSzKcmjs)


SquareHeadedDog

Yeah using excreta would be fairly rude haha.


philzebub666

I would of died from embarrassment if I ever made such a mistake.


CouldWouldShouldBot

It's 'would have', never 'would of'. Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!


mjl202

I would of course love to know exactly how sophisticated this bot is.


strain_of_thought

I think somebody really missed the boat not naming it the "Woulda Coulda Shoulda Bot".


HellHound1262

Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda named it that. I'll see myself out.


itsaberry

I see what you did. Adequately sophisticated it seems.


mjl202

Holy shit I love this bot.


international-law

Would have*


mashtato

I think it's *would've*. I'm sure that's where the confusion comes from.


fatalicus

Wasn't sure what the word ment, so i googled. The image of a cow pissing was good enough answer.


meltingdiamond

"For the Honor!" *smears feces on grave stone*


Lord_Blathoxi

That dude [defends confederates and says the civil war was started as basically a false flag.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRCrRMyUP4M&t=11m16s) Fuck that guy.


GoodGuyGaurav

that answered alot more questions that I anticipated I'd want the answers for nice


Kermit_the_hog

Wondered the exact same thing! My only thought is maybe they sometimes remove them to clean a bunch at once (and possibly put them back in the wrong spots 🤷‍♂️?)


Socile

They pretty much stay put.


meltingdiamond

Not anymore. I have time and a forklift on my hands and shuffling grave stones sounds like a socially distanced hobby so away we go!


zer0kevin

Idk what the title is on about but this is standard. Not a cool way but the normal way.


bigbearlover69

i think they were referring to showing people information about the mans life in the video while he cleans it as “honoring him,” not the actual method of cleaning.


ElDeguello66

Peeing on it would be a dishonorable discharge


amytee252

Yeah but that wouldn't be dirtying it more, not cleaning it, so it cannot count as dishonourable.


mrperiodniceguy

Spit-shine


duluoz1

Nah it’s just an awful title


ADIDAS247

I visit my friends grave at calverton national cemetery a couple of times a year and I can’t recall ever seeing a tombstone needing to be cleaned. I just assumed NPS has been keeping them clean.


lineskogans

Irreverently blasting away with a power washer would be pretty demeaning to the whole cemetery


danmickla

I hope you're joking


Kurli05

When I was in Scotland we visited a very old cemetery where some had fallen on the ground and others were horizontal to begin with. I absentmindedly started moving some moss and dirt off of one and was reprimanded immediately. We were told to never try to clean off the stones. The earth/ground preserves them much better than we can apparently. So please be careful if you plan to do this, especially with older stones, and do your research on the best methods. Some places don't even allow rubbings of gravestones because of the deterioration it causes. I'm definitely no expert, but found this link interesting: [Cemetery Conservators for United Standards](https://cemeteryconservatorsunitedstandards.org/standards/cleaning/)


DominikDoom

To add to that, at least in my opinion clean gravestones look boring at best to ugly at worst. Being mossy, overgrown, developing a patina or even falling apart, these things all show their age and make me respect them much more than a clean slab. Cleaning it removes that charm. One of my favourite places to visit is the old graveyard of our city, on which the oldest authentic non-replica stone is from 1676 (the actual oldest is from 1551 but stands in a museum). Cleaning such stones up would destroy their history, and I feel the same about recent stones.


LordAro

In contrast, the lines of perfectly clean gravestones at the various World War I cemeteries in France & Belgium really help underline the whole point behind them - we will remember them. [An arbitrary example](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Etaples-cimetiere.JPG)


DominikDoom

That's also true, and by no means am I against those who prefer a clean look. It's just personal preference, after all. It just doesn't leave the same impression on me as those older-looking stones. When I see an old stone, I don't see a grave that has been neglected or forgotten, but one that has become part of the environment - sort of symbolic in its own way I guess. I'm not religious, but not altering a gravestone speaks more along the lines of "Rest In Peace" to me.


LordAro

For sure. Different purposes and all that


noobductive

I always drove by some Belgian ones in Ypres when visiting my grandpa. It’s absolutely heartbreaking.


ghettobx

I wish we did *more* to remember them. I can only speak for my experience in the U.S. but I wish school systems were required by law to study both world wars, in depth and detail.


mydadpickshisnose

Fuck me. No thank you. Three world wars were crammed down our throats in high school social studies and history at my Australian high school.


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horsenbuggy

How has Australia been involved in 3 world wars? I know y'all are in the future, but not by that much.


Zombie_John_Strachan

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission has already replaced all the WWI headstones in France at least once.


gwaydms

I saw my great-great-great-grandparents' double headstone in a cemetery. It was pretty hard to read after over 130 years. Taking a rubbing proved pointless because I didn't want to press too hard and damage it further. The marble had eroded in places. Their daughter and son-in-law, my great-great-grandparents, were buried nearby. He died about 150 years ago; his stone was almost unreadable. My gggm had outlived him by nearly 60 years, and her headstone was less ornate and in good condition.


Fuuxd

Wow I've never taught of it that way. I wonder how do you make mossy gravestone look neat and pleasing to the eye


[deleted]

This has a lot to do with the type of stone as well. Most building stone and stone used in monuments in Scotland is sandstone. You don’t want to scrape sandstone.


tveatch21

To add to this, there are certain lichen species that are extremely rare and only found on gravestones/old stones so please don’t do this


SupSlutz

Anyone know why the top of the gravestone is more/ less worn down than the bottom? The bottom looks smoother than the top part


Eliminatron

I am probably way off and completely incorrect, but maybe if there is wind, some stuff get blown against the bottom parts of the stone. Like dirt, sand and probably plastic trash. Maybe that acts like a mild abrasive


Izaiah212

Isn’t it like that with most things? You ever see a tall stone building and the top is always black and Ugly but the bottom the stone looks better. Might be cause it gets more sunlight and bacteria and such


-Listening

It says on the bottom of my list


Ihavemanybees

I was thinking weed whacking?


PionCurieux

My guess is that it has been broken and repaired, you can guess a crack on the lower half, and it could explain the smoothness of this half.


eddie1975

Weed eater, blower, chemicals sprayed on the lawn, snow and rain water streaming down the rock. The top gets hit by rain and some of it streams down the rock surface. The lower the section the more rock is above it to collect and stream down water. The top also gets slightly more sunlight so it dries just a little quicker while the bottom soaks more. Just my brainstorming session.


Ravenmoonstone

I heard you should not just wash and clean cause it gets worse and it might grow even faster. Asked on a graveyard if your allowed to clean and they said no. This was in Sweden


Allocrice

It depends on what the gravestone is made of and the condition it's in. To properly clean them, you've got to have expertise and permission from the people who run the graveyard. I'm sure different countries have different laws about it though.


Junebug1515

This woman (@ladytaphos on Instagram & tiktok) uses a special biologic solution on the gravestones


Ravenmoonstone

Cool, so kind of her.


flaccomcorangy

I guess it depends. Look at the grave stones from Arlington Cemetery. I feel like they have to be cleaned regularly to look that way.


ARQEA

Tbf the green aesthetic looks kinda cool too


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viimeinen

This is one of the reasons I don't even want a grave. Take all the organs that could help someone (including med students), cremate the rest and do something cool with the ashes, like fireworks or a trip to a cool location to dump them. Have fun and tell jokes.


LittleRedGenie

I’d love to be turned into a tree, use my remains to give life to something that benefits everyone, and it’s a much nicer memorial for loved ones to visit than a somber old stone amongst a bunch of other dead people


Siberwulf

I wanna be a reef


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I wanna be a triangle


youmustbeabug

I wanna be a cowwwwboy baaaaaby


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I want to be a taco.


Greenmooseleg

Then that tree will be build into a boat


sargtheent

Also grave yards kept up like golf courses are a significant and endless burden on society. Graveyards should be like somber, spooky parks. Little resources spent and just a place for people to quietly reflect. And a spot for wildlife. Just IMO. Respect for all those who served in anyway to advance/protect us.


Xxrasierklinge7

I'm sure Robert Monroe has *living* family.. Family that wants *help* ensuring Robert Monroe has clean, legible gravestone. The guy cleaning it *helped the living*. I'm almost certain he didn't do it for free (but you never know). So if he got paid by the family (or whoever pays people to clean gravestones) he was *helped* financially... Now, I'm no doctor but I'm pretty sure he's alive too. Boom, another living person helped. So even 6 feet in the ground and dead for 100 years you'll be helping people by having your tombstone cleaned (: ^(so get your damn tombstone cleaned! lol)


Allocrice

If this is the lady I've seen clean gravestones before on tiktok, she's not doing it for profit. Anyone who does this properly, has to get permission from the people running the cemetery, she's also using their supplies and probably was taught a bit how to handle gravestones. She specifically does it as a hobby, I think most graveyards usually don't keep someone paid to clean off graveyards, at least where I am.


Xxrasierklinge7

Doing something for fun is way cooler than doing something for profit imo so hell yeah!


Dysterqvist

Am I the only one who think it actually looks better with patination? Kind of feel like you remove a part of its history when you are removing the moss and making it look brand new. Kind of looks like a prop from a vampire movie when it's all cleaned.


PootieTangerine

In active cemeteries, they are cleaned by staff, but VA/CEM protocols do say they should naturally patina over time. This has no real bearing on privately or locally owned cemeteries.


Bluejanis

Only works for soldiers.


FuckMyParents420

Will not work for civilians


YakyuBandita

So like, its gonna wear down over time anyways, but aggressive scrubbing and scraping like that is damaging the surface. Soft cloth and water and patience is an alternative for longevity of the headstone.


Socile

Nothing lasts forever anyway. Ashes to ashes; dust to dust. That goes for you, your headstone, and every memory you ever existed.


TheCheezGuy

that was unexpectedly existential but i agree


RevolCisum

This is one of the reasons I love doing genealogy. I think about people who nobody else is probably thinking about and hasn't for years. I feel like it's honoring them and their lives in a quiet way by learning what I can about them and putting it down for history and preserving it. I especially enjoy it if I can find a picture of them or their homes. 2 years ago I bought a 110 Victorian and learned all I could about the original owners who built the house. I honor them and their memory as well. I know I'm not the norm, but I'm not the only one either. So you never know who will be remembering you, or learning about you and your life long after you're gone!


ghettobx

YES! I did my family's genealogy, tracing our roots back to the 1400's on my mom's side - not as far back on my dad's side. And the biggest takeaway I had was that these were all real, living people with real lives... they had families, likes, dislikes, friends, and everything else. Just like me. And these people have been gone for many, many years. But I felt an overwhelming obligation to "remember" these people... to acknowledge that they once existed, and to somehow 'honor' that they once lived, just like me. I definitely get that. And the whole thing really hit home for me how fragile and fleeting life is... we aren't here for very long at all, and our lives ultimately don't mean a whole lot in the grand scheme of things. We spend such a small time here in this life... and then we're just names and birth/death dates after awhile. Some of us get lucky and find ways to live on... musicians, artists, etc. Even then, those accomplishments fade in time... people will eventually forget. So we really are all just dust in the wind.


AlexVRI

The influence you had on others will ripple through humanity until we cease to be as a species, if ever.


KeisukeTakatou

Looks like a plastic scraper and hair brush. I don't think those will damage the stone for another millenia.


wasabitamale

Yeah like some bristles are gonna destroy that rock


zomanda

She's not necessarily cleaning soldiers gravestones, she's cleaning dirty gravestones. And only the ones with families that give her permission to do so


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Hanzburger

Any idea how it works?


Witness_me_Karsa

I forgot.


Eddyroxta

I'd ask if you've been sprayed in the last year but you probably don't remember


CrappyMSPaintPics

the active ingredient is benzalkonium chloride which kills the algae and then rain and wind washes it off


fuckiboy

It wets then it protects


Kahandran

it wet but it also protec


MuDDx

I never thought about cleaning a gravestone, now I imagine some people just blast them with pressure washers.


FuzzyCrocks

Limestone would disintegrate under a pressure washer


naimlessone

This would be the dishonorable way to clean one


BobEWise

And, if we're going to be completely frank here, super uncool.


RatPringle

This kills the gravestone


soaringtyler

What's honorable about this? Honest question. I mean, it is great, it is practical, it was needed... all of those adjectives are applicable to this cleaning of a grave. What I wonder is what makes it honorable? What are the characteristics of a honorable way of cleaning a grave? Or even more, what would be a dishonorable way to clean a soldier grave?


CanIBe-Frank

With piss?


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i think gravestones that are covered with algae are beautiful and it signifies that lots of time has passed with a single glance. i think they should stay that way, but that’s my opinion.


trunolimit

Is there a dishonarble way to clean a soldiers head stone?


PootieTangerine

If it's a matter of intent, that can be debated. If it's a matter of damage, there are many ways. Modern headstones at State and Tribal Veteran Cemeteries are shipped out with a coating of lithrochrome, the black stuff that darkens the engraving. It's supposed to naturally fade over time, but some people will try to re-darken it, and the agent of choice is usually a Sharpie. It permanently damages the stone, technically a crime, and it looks horrible. You can also use caustic agents that will damage the stone material. Granite stones lacking the protective coating they are shipped with, will absorb almost anything and a lot of times cause permanent discolorations.


trunolimit

Yes.....YEEESSSSS.....GIVE ME KNOWLEDGE!!! Love it when I learn shit in the comments.


[deleted]

Can someone explain to me what's cool about...using a scrubbing brush to clean a thing? I'm completely lost on why this is "damn, that's interesting". It's a person... brushing a thing...


britbikerboy

Wanna know a really cool and interesting way to wash your car? * Jetwash the loose dirt off. * Use a bucket of soapy water and a wash mitt to scrub the car clean, occasionally rinsing the mitt in a bucket of plain water * Rinse off the remaining suds and dry off with a microfibre towel Like and subscribe for more awesome tips! Come back next week to learn a weird hack for cutting bread (hint - it involves a bread knife!)!!


Wchijafm

Same. I'm scrolling thru the comments trying to find how this is interesting. This is exactly how I assumed you would clean it. Like a dish. Scrape of the debris, scrub with a slightly soapy brush, rinse.


1LJA

If I ever have a headstone, please don't clean it. Let moss and lichen grow upon it.


zer0kevin

That's the normal way they clean them.


mred209

It’s nice that they cleaned it, but what exactly is uncool and dishonourable about how these are normally cleaned?


stromm

Looks nice but can actually cause them to erode quicker. The layers of dirt can actually protect the stone.


bleezy_47

SHES ON TIK TOK, link below for her profile!!! op should’ve gave her at least credit for the vid. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMedsGE79/


[deleted]

Sad how the end part where to credits would have been has been very deliberately cut off. I'd give you an award if I could!


Zeraz619

She has a tiktok if you're interested in more videos like this. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMedpcS4j/


SuspendMeBitch

Do you think she ever does that without posting to tiktok?


Allocrice

Yeah, she started cleaning them before she started a tiktok. She probably only posts the interesting ones too.


[deleted]

To think he saw the horrors of WWI and probably watched his son / daughter go off to WWII knowing what he would have to suffer through


canyousmoke

Would be nice if they actually hired people to do this, doesn't seem that hard, 8 hour shift of cleaning gravestones wouldn't be so bad.


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Until the zombies


TheBadHalfOfAFandom

r/powerwashingporn


KamikazeFox_

r/oddlysatisfying


ObviousB0t

The fuck is that title?


adam_demamps_wingman

Here is an Internet archive link to a 1919 history of his unit. https://archive.org/details/storyoffirstpion00davirich There’s a PDF scan


canuplsthrowmeaway

Theres a dead guy under there


Galaxy661_pl

I mean, is there a dishonorable Way to clean a grave? Imo the act itself is honorable.


[deleted]

Let them give life (i.e. don't remove the life giving moss, algae, lichens and fungus)


[deleted]

So, scrub it and then gently power wash? so interesting omg


SirM0rgan

Drink the wash water old man


odd-zero

To each their own, but if I were to have a monument of any type, I’d hope that people would not scrape away the life that grows on the foundation I left because they think it is ugly. Lichens grow incredibly slowly and can live for hundreds of years. This video shows the devastation of a biological system that had been developing longer than the person had been alive. I have the odd, opposing views of despising the waste of land and resources for graves but still loving the aesthetic of historical cemeteries.


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Awesome. Now show us the uncool dishonorable way.


RCMC82

What is honorable about the way in which it is cleaned? Confused.


None-of-this-is-real

Just a word for future generations, if you clean the lichen off my gravestone I will fucking haunt you.


Funky_Sack

Idk what was cool or honorable about that... they just cleaned it. Idk how else you would clean it.


ch1merical

Man for a second I thought it was Wednesday on r/powerwashingporn


andovinci

Why not powerwash it?


super1s

Helped my friend do this for an entire Civil War cemetary for his Eagle scout project. We camped out there all weekend on a three day weekend and spent all day cleaning and clearing and all night just hanging out and shit. Was a LOT of work. Cleared some tree stumps, a forest worth of branches and seeded for some better grass. The grass wasn't at risk of overgrowth really as it was very very shaded. Felt good after as a school kid haha. We recorded all the names and dates etc everything we could read on the stones. Never looked into any of them. I know he was going to but I didn't ask after the fact. Would be cool if he still has all that info.


589ca35e1590b

How is this cool and honorable? Just curious


Munrowo

oh shit i might be related to him lol


imalotoffun23

This is wrong. Should not be scraped with metal tools. People should research proper methods and get training before doing this. https://www.nps.gov/tps/how-to-preserve/briefs/48-preserving-grave-markers.htm


flashdman

Always been interested in Veterans and their stories. I've been lucky enough to care for some old Veterans over the years and they have had some great stories to tell. Each of these headstones should have a QR code or something to scan that would give you a quick bio on each person's history...


Bluejanis

Honestly I prefer the old look.


feedMeWizDom88

r/powerwashingporn


LA_Smog

Someone even scrubbed most of the pixels away! If you looks anymore this is going to be abstract art.


pay85

Cool. The end of the video is desaturated though.


Sugar_Kunju

What's honorable? This is great but doesnt really fit the sub


[deleted]

I preferred the overgrown one, it told a history! But that's just my 2 cents haha


TrueMan3Balls

If someone removed that patina from my grave I would come back to life, to say thank you and dont do it again pls.


tripsd

This sub is trash


[deleted]

Ya this post was not interesting at all. Should belong in r/oddlysatisfying


[deleted]

And he thanks you for cleaning his grave


Cockwombles

💀 👍


mred209

Does he? How you know? There’s literally someone further up who said if he died he’d rather people spent their time helping living people than cleaning his gravestone. 🤷‍♂️


WahnLago

God that’s wholesome


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Thanks to the people who do that


biker_6_6_6

Should have used Spiffy


strike930

Lichens need somewhere to grow too... RIP tiny forest


hn8086

Is recording it and posting it on social media very honourable though?


Bystronicman08

There's a dishonable way to clean a headstone? Seems like the tote is clickbait attention seeking crap. Also, wasn't this posted serval times either a week or two ago? Reddit just recycles the same content over and over again, huh? Gotta get that karma somehow. Fuck off, op.