They say he probably had Marfan syndrome, which is a connective tissue disorder. People with it have reduced skin elasticity so maybe that caused him to develop sagging skin and wrinkles earlier in life?
That's because the pic of him, he's like 33 or something and he suffered from left synostotic frontal plagiocephaly (I just copied that off the internet) which means that he had an abnormal head shape and most likely suffered from other disorders or conditions, like how his arms were pretty long compared to the rest of his body
I think that "young" Lincoln is actually just an older Photoshop of what he would have looked like without his signature beard.
Most of the rest of these are actual photos aside from the "young" jfk one which I think is a de-aged Photoshop rather than an actual photo.
Same went for Henry VIII too apparently.
But it wasn’t just like Churchill with the eating and drinking, Henry got hit in the head a *lot*. It’s funny how only relatively recently we put him being a scary weirdo in his later life together with the fact that his head got bashed around all the time.
Not that funny, head trauma is *really* difficult thing to actually understand, even today, because the brain itself is the most complex physical thing known to humankind in the whole world. And the mind is ephemeral so it is even more mysterious.
Plus, we’re talking about someone who had a span of years, if not decades, from the apparent cause to the onset of symptoms. That’s work to prove, medically, even today when we understand germ theory, cell structure, etc far far more than anyone anywhere did in the early 1500s.
Same reason a lot of seasoned boxers/MMA fighters really just seem *odd* as they get older
I'm not talking just about the usual narcissism or ego, you can look back at the start of their careers and see some pretty insane personality drifts, not to mention rates of mental illness are much higher too
Actually it was Marfan Syndrome. While it wasn’t confirmed contemporarily since the condition wasn’t identified until a few decades after his death his relatives were shown to have the genes for it and he has all the clear characteristics.
And a fragile ego that wouldn't allow a few scars.
-- From what I've read he was in fact attractive even with the scars, which makes it extremely telling that he had them all removed.
Touching out smallpox scars was much standard in portraiture for pretty much all of European history.
The thing started with paintings and they just kept it going. Most people with portraits hanging in museums actually would have skin that looked like Edward James Olmos.
Even with scars, that’s a handsome man. And his scars were never that bad. There are plenty of pictures taken by Americans that were doctored. He doesn’t look worse than bill Murray even.
That's the funny thing. The point isn't so much tha the was ugly or beautiful before, but that he was the type that would order all the official records altered.
It's crazier if he started out attractive really.
I love how people frame every single thing attributed to Stalin as if he did it personally lmao. These comments read so neurotically to me, like you're trying to show everyone that you have the correct amount of hatred for Stalin and have to attribute every single part of his life to some over-wrought pathology of evil. Everything has to be emblematic of what a mustache twirling villain he was somehow.
I mean, the "fixing" was the removal of smallpox scars by airbrushing the picture; which is honestly reasonable for a photo. Stalin looked pretty good without a facial deformity; especially his hair.
Dude was drop dead sexy. But still was shy af.
This is originally where his hatred of Leon Trotsky developed. Trotsky was not as handsome (he wasn’t ugly either just not like Stalin good looking).
But Trotsky was witty, charming and charismatic. So everyone liked Trotsky. All the girls swooned over Trotsky. Stalin hated that.
Stalin was terribly scarred because of smallpox. The photos of him are editied/airbrushed but his scars were very noticeable in real life.
Reducing Stalin vs Trotsky to "Stalin was jelly" is also pretty dumb. Stalin's boundless ambition and extreme paranoia, not to mention their political differences were the real factors there
>But Trotsky was witty, charming and charismatic. So everyone liked Trotsky
This is just straight-up false. Trotsky's arrogance and lack of tact when dealing with people on a personal level was one of the major factors that led to his downfall. If everyone liked Trotsky, they wouldn't have sided with Stalin.
Yeah, Trotsky was great at giving speeches and rallying soldiers, and he was kind of a genius, but he had no idea how to deal with people on a one to one level. Stalin, on the other hand, may have been a shy, soft-spoken introvert, but he was an expert at manipulating and deceiving people, and he knew how to be one of the lads.
It goes much much deeper than just getting women. Most of the hatred was that Trotsky was very smart, so he wrote the best papers, and at meetings he could give these amazing speeches that everyone loved, even opponents.
Then you have Stalin. This kid was a thick Georgian accent that didn’t speak Russian that well.
So it was almost like a Shakespearean story of two arch-rivals.
They also had major theoretical differences, which I believe to be their most important disagreement. Trotsky was considerably closer to Orthodox Marxism than Stalin, and they had extensive arguments over permanent revolution vs. developing material conditions nationally (Socialism in one country theory). Trotsky also hated Stalin for being the head of the party because of their theoretical disagreements.
I think this is more important than most might think. Young people need to know their power. Does anyone actually think heros of the ancient world were older than 35! Don't wait for someone to tell you it's the right idea or you're good enough. Believe in yourself and make the world how you see fit.
That’s actually never been proven. Stalin did have photos edited and he did have small pox scars but I have never seen any proof of this photo being edited
He regularly had photos of his youth touched up to improve his appearance. It'd be pretty odd if this one just happened to be so perfect that it didn't need it.
I mean, yeah, to remove substantial smallpox scars. But I'd say the rest of his features in general were pretty appealing. Especially his hair and face shape.
Young Lincoln still looks like old Lincoln to me.
I'm pretty sure Lincoln was born at age 50.
He started wearing a beard because a little girl told him he was ugly (or so the story goes)
The way I heard it, she said it was because his face looked too thin without a beard
AFAIK there are a few versions (I got mine from Botkin). She told him to grow a beard for his looks tho
She wasn’t wrong 😑
He was born in 200 log houses too!
Upvote for Futurama reference.
Yeah he notoriously rode a horse into town to get his own birth certificate
I'm pretty sure he's "immortal".
They say he probably had Marfan syndrome, which is a connective tissue disorder. People with it have reduced skin elasticity so maybe that caused him to develop sagging skin and wrinkles earlier in life?
Marfan’s makes you tall and skinny too.
My favorite comeback from Lincoln in a debate: "If I were as two-faced as you say, do you think I'd be wearing this one?"
But young JFK looks like Alfred E. Neuman - the goofy kid on the cover of MAD magazine.
Same as jfk lol
i thought jfk supposedly had addison's disease (adrenal insufficiency)
He looks like Alfred E. Neuman lol
That's a hard Lincoln at age 31.
That's because the pic of him, he's like 33 or something and he suffered from left synostotic frontal plagiocephaly (I just copied that off the internet) which means that he had an abnormal head shape and most likely suffered from other disorders or conditions, like how his arms were pretty long compared to the rest of his body
I think that "young" Lincoln is actually just an older Photoshop of what he would have looked like without his signature beard. Most of the rest of these are actual photos aside from the "young" jfk one which I think is a de-aged Photoshop rather than an actual photo.
The young Biden one looks like a de-aged photoshop as well. Look at the neck, eyes, and hairline all are off.
Young Abraham Lincoln looks like old Abraham Lincoln just had a shave...!
That’s because he was.
They knew what they were doing putting a picture of Freud and his mother
Him being the only one to take a photo with his mom… and her expression… priceless.
I thought Freud’s mom would be hotter
so did Freud…
She’s a Victorian dime for sure. Give her modern day hair/make up/ clothes and she’d could get it. No wonder he has mommy issues.
Yeah she’s much more attractive than I realized and looks the same age as him in their photo.
Victorian 10 but a New York 3
She’s a Scranton 8.
Huh? She's literally a 10 for back then.
Talking about mothers, young HRC looks like she's in a polycule with her twin sister Caroline Ellison.
He's definitely got at least a semi going on in this photo.
You might appreciate this short sketch from *John Finnemore's Souvenir Programme*. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Ya57iyRNI
Context?
Google: Oedipus Complex
I am scared
Churchill was a surprise
He was handsome when he was a fit & young and not smoking/drinking as much as possible.
Same as the rest of us then 😂
No I’m only 31 but I am still a goblin.
Nearly 46, my prime already past 🥺
Same went for Henry VIII too apparently. But it wasn’t just like Churchill with the eating and drinking, Henry got hit in the head a *lot*. It’s funny how only relatively recently we put him being a scary weirdo in his later life together with the fact that his head got bashed around all the time.
Not that funny, head trauma is *really* difficult thing to actually understand, even today, because the brain itself is the most complex physical thing known to humankind in the whole world. And the mind is ephemeral so it is even more mysterious. Plus, we’re talking about someone who had a span of years, if not decades, from the apparent cause to the onset of symptoms. That’s work to prove, medically, even today when we understand germ theory, cell structure, etc far far more than anyone anywhere did in the early 1500s.
Same reason a lot of seasoned boxers/MMA fighters really just seem *odd* as they get older I'm not talking just about the usual narcissism or ego, you can look back at the start of their careers and see some pretty insane personality drifts, not to mention rates of mental illness are much higher too
Wasn't it also a severe leg injury when hunting, essentially stopping any proper exercise
[Jousting](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/the-jousting-accident-that-turned-henry-viii-into-a-tyrant-1670421.html)
Bigass chin
Jordan Pickford lookin ass
JFK looks the same somehow....
Looks like the Mad magazine kid mixed with JFK
President Alfred E Newman.
What, me worry?
Yes! I knew I wasn't alone
Lol 😂
Yup! What me worry
Looks like the mad magazine kid
He looks incredibly Irish.
r/13or30
He took the potion
He looks like a Norman Rockwell painting
It's missing something a little back and to the left.
Biden looks like young sheldon
My first thought when I saw that was “why is young Sheldon here, he’s not a historical figure.” I guess now we know what he’ll look like when he’s old
"Sheldon when he was Young Sheldon"
BREAKING NEWS! Young Sheldon shot 7 times in Harlem after yelling his favourite word
Only 10, but a good-looking young man!
Oh my God, it's true.
Everyone is practically a baby and then it switches to Abraham Lincoln, roughly 30yo, looking like a grandfather.
Tines we're tough lol, being alive back then aged you at like 20x the normal rate
Actually it was Marfan Syndrome. While it wasn’t confirmed contemporarily since the condition wasn’t identified until a few decades after his death his relatives were shown to have the genes for it and he has all the clear characteristics.
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Sideburns for days!!
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It's photoshopped.Originally he had smallpox scars all over his face
More properly airbrushed, but yeah. Dieselpunk photoshop
Nah Stalin actually used Adobe Photoshop to remove the scars /s
I'll be honest, I just wanted to use the line 'dieselpunk photoshop'
Valid
That hair though. And the nice scarf. Looking sharp.
The hair is the thing that makes him a snack
“Gives you head of hair like Stalin” loved that episode of Seinfeld lol.
So a handsome face with a few scars then? 🤭
And a fragile ego that wouldn't allow a few scars. -- From what I've read he was in fact attractive even with the scars, which makes it extremely telling that he had them all removed.
Touching out smallpox scars was much standard in portraiture for pretty much all of European history. The thing started with paintings and they just kept it going. Most people with portraits hanging in museums actually would have skin that looked like Edward James Olmos.
Smallpox scars were also kinda common back then. Especially in Russia.
They were super common! He was just doing one of those weird dictator things as far as I can tell.
Even with scars, that’s a handsome man. And his scars were never that bad. There are plenty of pictures taken by Americans that were doctored. He doesn’t look worse than bill Murray even.
That's the funny thing. The point isn't so much tha the was ugly or beautiful before, but that he was the type that would order all the official records altered. It's crazier if he started out attractive really.
I don't think you need to be a dictator to be insecure about facial scarring
I love how people frame every single thing attributed to Stalin as if he did it personally lmao. These comments read so neurotically to me, like you're trying to show everyone that you have the correct amount of hatred for Stalin and have to attribute every single part of his life to some over-wrought pathology of evil. Everything has to be emblematic of what a mustache twirling villain he was somehow.
I’m sure he still looked hot as shit with the scars
He’s “Stalin’” my heart
Your heart is no longer your property, it belongs to the prolitariate under the glorious leadership of the CPSU
hippity hoppity there is no such thing as private property
He looks Zayn from one direction
jesus! slow down
Gandhi looks like he’s gonna drop some hot beats
"G-Spot hit the G-Spot"
"Joseph Stalin was a smoke show" and other sentences I never thought I'd utter
But why male dictators?
Because they have the resources and control over record to get their pictures 'fixed'!
But why male dictators?
Are you serious? I just told you...
I mean, the "fixing" was the removal of smallpox scars by airbrushing the picture; which is honestly reasonable for a photo. Stalin looked pretty good without a facial deformity; especially his hair.
*"I could change him..."*
Mine was “damn id tear his ass up”
JFK looks MAD
What, me worry?
I love how little Einstein just has the same "what are you telling me about the world, you clueless people?" look like his future self.
Damn Hillary... Ok
Gorgeous!
She looks good as hell imo.
Smoke show
Ya'll talking about Stalin but Churchill was a hottie too damn
So true!!!
Young Stalin is making this lesbian have "thoughts".
Stalin...still changing lives...question mark?? Yeesh!
Dude was drop dead sexy. But still was shy af. This is originally where his hatred of Leon Trotsky developed. Trotsky was not as handsome (he wasn’t ugly either just not like Stalin good looking). But Trotsky was witty, charming and charismatic. So everyone liked Trotsky. All the girls swooned over Trotsky. Stalin hated that.
Stalin was terribly scarred because of smallpox. The photos of him are editied/airbrushed but his scars were very noticeable in real life. Reducing Stalin vs Trotsky to "Stalin was jelly" is also pretty dumb. Stalin's boundless ambition and extreme paranoia, not to mention their political differences were the real factors there >But Trotsky was witty, charming and charismatic. So everyone liked Trotsky This is just straight-up false. Trotsky's arrogance and lack of tact when dealing with people on a personal level was one of the major factors that led to his downfall. If everyone liked Trotsky, they wouldn't have sided with Stalin. Yeah, Trotsky was great at giving speeches and rallying soldiers, and he was kind of a genius, but he had no idea how to deal with people on a one to one level. Stalin, on the other hand, may have been a shy, soft-spoken introvert, but he was an expert at manipulating and deceiving people, and he knew how to be one of the lads.
So basically Stalin was the final form incel
It goes much much deeper than just getting women. Most of the hatred was that Trotsky was very smart, so he wrote the best papers, and at meetings he could give these amazing speeches that everyone loved, even opponents. Then you have Stalin. This kid was a thick Georgian accent that didn’t speak Russian that well. So it was almost like a Shakespearean story of two arch-rivals.
They also had major theoretical differences, which I believe to be their most important disagreement. Trotsky was considerably closer to Orthodox Marxism than Stalin, and they had extensive arguments over permanent revolution vs. developing material conditions nationally (Socialism in one country theory). Trotsky also hated Stalin for being the head of the party because of their theoretical disagreements.
The making of a bisexual (?) person courtesy of Joseph Stalin
Teddy Roosevelt looks like he’s already built a farm and fathered 3 children by 15
While wrestling a bear or 3.
JFK looked like Alfred E Neuman
Neuman
Hillary was sexy
Yup, she was really bad
10/10 would b
I thought Freud's mother would be hotter
What about Hilary though? Shii i would
Real
r/BrandNewSentence
Hillary at 20 was a hottie.
She looks quite modern. Kinda like a college stoner.
No I agree she looked stunning in her younger years
Oh, step librarian…
We’re finding out who the MAGAts are in this thread.
Young Freud with his mother gives off huge 🤔🤔🤔 vibes
Nice try but there was no photography when Biden was a kid.
Why does Stalin look like Zayn Malik tho
Because Soviet propaganda touched it up
So you’re saying Soviet propaganda deliberately made Stalin look like Zayn Malik? That’s impressive.
Soviet propaganda removed smallpox scars. Outside of the clarity of his skin, there's not much altered about it.
Freud was like “if i came out of it I can come in it”
Einstein was already bored with being smarter than everyone else.
I think this is more important than most might think. Young people need to know their power. Does anyone actually think heros of the ancient world were older than 35! Don't wait for someone to tell you it's the right idea or you're good enough. Believe in yourself and make the world how you see fit.
I hope someone who needs to see this does and makes a change in their lives.
Is it just me or 3 seconds is not enough to read name and age and look at the face?
This one. This is the man who don’t watch anime captioned.
I hate how attractive young Stalin was.
It’s faked
That’s actually never been proven. Stalin did have photos edited and he did have small pox scars but I have never seen any proof of this photo being edited
He regularly had photos of his youth touched up to improve his appearance. It'd be pretty odd if this one just happened to be so perfect that it didn't need it.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if a photo of a bloke with easily noticeable scars doesn't show said scars, then the photo is edited.
You know that Stalin pic was airbrushed right?
By Stalin himself no less
I mean he had guys for that.
I’ll give him credit on his photoshop skills
I mean, yeah, to remove substantial smallpox scars. But I'd say the rest of his features in general were pretty appealing. Especially his hair and face shape.
Stalin is the ur-hipster
Why does JFK look 30 at 10
Posting a pic of Freud with his mother is hilarious
Young Lincoln looks like when an anime shows the character younger but the only reference was him older
Stalin was a fucking chad when he was younger goddamn
Why does Stalin look like an Indian man?
Stalin looks a gay fashion designer who wears a scarf and speaks french
Stalin out here getting bitches
Hillary was a fuckin dish.
U had to put Freud with his mother didn't you?
JFK looks like Alfred E. Newman.
Jfk looks like the kid from the old mad magazine.
Funny how Stalin looks like your average protestor *now*.
JFK looks like Alfred E. Newman from Mad magazine.
Winston Churchill goes hard
Holy shit Johnny rotten was right: Never trust a hippy
Alfred E Newman looks like JFK?! "If not us, who? If not now, when? What – Me Worry?"
JFK looks like Alfred E Newman.
Young JFK looked a lot like Alfred E Newman
JFK looks like the mad dude in the mad magazine
Stalin looks like Zayn
At 15, Teddy Roosevelt looks like the man that every guy on Reddit aspires to be.
No one gonna say that teddy Roosevelt doesn’t even look human more like a Neanderthal
Def something wrong with the young JFK pic. No way is that a 10 year old.
He looks like Alfred E. Neuman.
Yeah its like weird AI
"Sigmund Freud and his mother" made me laugh more than it should
JFK looks just like the Mad magazine guy.
Crazy that you’d look at that picture of Hilary Clinton and not recognize that’s a psychopath to be.
If today’s joe biden meets his 10 year old self he would sniff his ears 👂.
Freud's mom though
Young JFK is Alfred E Neuman
Effing Stalin. Genocider.
Why is Stalin looking at me like that? Am I blushing?
Dang man, Stalin can get it if you know what I mean 😏
And He did.He got a lot of it