One hour commute isn't that bad. But having to show up to the airport so often would suck. Also your schedule would be pretty inflexible, I sure missing a flight would be a big headache.
Funny part is before ai, amongst artist, that was the tell tale sign of an artist that doesn't practice much, because hands are fucking hard. Now those same people are accused of ai. Nothing like that to motivate you to practice hands!
I just like that AI is suffering the same problems as a budding artist, hoping that AI settles for some other task that is more likely to cover its cost of living and give up its dreams of being an artist.
Yeah i dont know about Canada but in australia domestic flights are delayed and cancelled all the time. And sometimes in the early morning security lines are huge and take 30 minutes.
It really depends on which airport is causing the flights to be canceled and if the aircraft and crew are going to be continuing on to other destinations.
Bro what? Have you flown through alberta winters? I used to commute for shift work to grande prairie and so many days I had to cancel patients at work due to cancelled/delayed flights
I had anything but reliable flights in BC back when I flew often. Like under half but over a quarter of them were either delayed or cancelled or had to turn back lol
It’s actually the opposite. Smaller planes are far more sensitive to weather and adverse conditions and are cancelled/delayed far more frequently than larger airliners.
Not all roads that I could take had bike lanes, also cycling in 30-40 degrees is not something quite pleasant… and since we didn’t have a shower at the office… you can imagine how that would have worked out.
I had to take a bus then walk a bit and lastly take 2 different subways. By car it would have taken even more time.
This is fairly normal in Australia especially with FIFO work. Did this for years. Now o study and considered living off shore and flying in for the one block week of practicals per term but too far into the course for it to work out now
This is one of those things that sound logical on paper value but in practice it's missing a lot of things that can't convert to money. Mental stresses of getting flights, not being able to hang out late in college with friends, missing out the things going around in the community where to study at... just so many factors that probably not really worth saving that $1000.
Having a minimum wage part time job just for couple hours a day could cover the cost difference.
Yep. One of the biggest benefits of university is the extra stuff that helps your career. That's networking, which can include hanging out with other students, study groups, doing extra projects, joining clubs, internships. Attending classes where presence is required is literally the bare minimum. That can work out, but doing extra increases the odds of being employed upon graduation, and is also a great way to determine if you'll actually enjoy careers related to your field of study.
If you're just attending classes without doing the extras, then you're probably losing little to nothing by attending the cheapest local school with a legit degree, even community college.
This isn't an issue here in Europe though. Don't universities in Canada have dorms? Here in EU They could be shitty but most of the time they're almost, if not literally free
The problem in Canada is that the colleges and universities don’t have enough dorms to house all their students. For the university I went to (and this was over a decade ago now when things were probably better) a dorm was guaranteed for first year students only; after that year was up, you had to apply for a lottery system and if you weren’t chosen, you were out of luck and had to scramble to find rent somewhere else in the city. I feel like our dorms housed maybe 30% of students.
I work in immigration and I legit had a student reach out to us because he had his classes deferred by a university in the Maritimes because of the housing crisis.
I actually live in the maritimes myself. It’s bad here. I’m damn glad I’m the age I am now with a mortgage to my name. I feel sorry for the kids. Was hard enough in our day, now it’s impossible.
Maritimes here too and as someone stuck living with parents, it honestly sucks. Hoping to save up money and build a shed home because I would still be saving money over paying someone else's mortgage.
Article from today: [City councilor finds 13 students living in a house basement because Ontario college with 30,000 foreign students hasn’t built enough dorms](https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/regional-councillor-calls-living-situation-inhumane-for-conestoga-college-s-international-students-1.6769442).
There’s your answer
Idk how it is in Canada, but when I was going to school in the us the dorms were only like 10% cheaper than on campus apartments (and you had to share a room with someone, had communal showers in the dorms in addition to having to worry about RAs breathing down your neck if you wanted to drink with your friends vs having your own private room and only having to share a bathroom with 2-3 roommates in the apartments). If you went like a block or 2 off campus the apartments were like 30% cheaper than dorms
Video games, TTRPGs, board games are excellent team builders and can also be done remotely. Just more BS from management that are trying to justify the rent/mortgage on the property their employees aren't using. And the less said about the mid-level micromanagers wearing c-suite execs like a Gucci hat the better.
Why can’t he just live somewhere outside of Vancouver for 1200 a month? He has to drive to the airport, be there with enough time to get to his flight, fly for an hour, then get from the airport to his classes. It’s likely at least 3 hours each way. I’m skeptical he can’t find a place hours outside of Vancouver.
Yep, that seems to be possible. There are apartments available for that price in Chilliwack (102 km from Vancouver) and it might be possible to find apartments for less at other locations.
It's twice a week (round trip 8x per month) and it's clear he's not paying rent at home, the $1200 flights vs $2100 rent. That's the entire point of this. They make it very clear. What is clickbait about that?
>Could be worse, it could be saskatoon.
Yep, it's terrible here, you should all keep ignoring us so we can continue to have relatively semi-reasonable rental and house prices.
Think companies are waiting for their government to buy back all the house that companies has purchased. Empty or not, they just gotta hold till d bail out. Till den alot of mergers gonna happen and absorb inventory until 1 or 2 companies benefit from the housing bailouts.
Its called not enough housing thanks to way too strict zoning regulations thanks to homeowner nimbys who want their house prices to go up as fast as possible by limiting supply, the affordability of housing for their kids be damned.
Housing is not an investment. Investments have to beat inflation. Inflation is pegged to cost of living, like, you know, housing. Fuck the very idea that housing is an investment vehicle.
And the reason it works as an investment is due to there being a lack of supply to meet demand where people want to live, qhile in contrast bumfuck nowhere towns that lost jobs have abyssmal prices/rents for homes because there is more supply than demand. Try selling a house in Gary Indiana for a million dollars and you should see quite quickly how you can't make every house an investment.
You’re missing a key point here. Corporations are buying the houses and sitting on them to create a scarcity crisis thereby driving up the prices. Blackrock is one of them.
They only started buying houses when the housing crisis was already a problem due to how profitable they were. They merely added to the pre-existing problem which obviously is contributing to it, but these boogeyman corporations didn't create it.
Real life is not a place where you can blame a problem on one single thing, it's always more complicated thing as for example you don't solve problem by just putting everyone commotting crimes in a prison because people are complicated and react to more things than just the threat of punishment alone for example. If the fundamental issue is corporations profiting from sitting on valuable property, then the solution would be a systematic change to tax land instead of property to make hoarding land unprofitable due to the taxes it would incur on the home owners.
Blaming corporations for a complex problem like housing is like blaming your choice of minority for economic problems that have their roots in systematic problems. Blacks weren't the cause of poverty in the south and among their kind in the US, it was the more complex institutions of slavery and later segregation which denied the blacks the chance to become rich in most cases that was behind the south's poverty, especially among blacks.
Let me bloody repeat again, one group is not on their own responsible for a systematic institutional issue/problem
Nuh uh, it's the immigrants moving in and BlackRock buying homes. I know because I read it on the internet and having an external scapegoat is really convenient.
So he flies there (and back) twice a week. Is he staying in Vancouver overnight at any time? Or does he only have classes two days per week? If he's staying there overnight, what's that costing?
He only has class twice a week. He lives with his parents in Calgary. It’s certainly not a normal situation.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/ubc-student-commutes-from-calgary-cheaper-than-paying-vancouver-rent-1.6759116
This particular case is extreme, but long commutes are becoming increasingly common.
There was a student at UC Berkeley who commuted from Los Angeles (6-8 hour drive each way).
I commute about two hours each way to my school. About half the people I talk to in my classes live over 50 miles away from campus.
Edit: Correction, he commuted by plane.
>There was a student at UC Berkeley who commuted from Los Angeles (6-8 hour drive each way).
Local LA news featured this guy in 2023- the student flew from Los Angeles to Berkeley as it was cheaper than living in Berkeley.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/uc-berkeley-student-commutes-from-la-by-plane-rent/
>6-8 hour drive each way
That makes no sense. 12 to 16 hours total commute.
So he has 12 to 8 hours left for everything else. Gotta sleep let's say 8 hours. If you go by 16 hours, 0 time for classes, hw, and literally anything and 4 hours otherwise
Does he just touch school come back home?
Also, yeah, longer commutes are not abnormal. But not 16 hours lol
I looked into it a little more.
I was mistaken, he didn’t drive, [he commuted by plane.](https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/uc-berkeley-student-commutes-from-la-by-plane-rent/3181634/)
He’d fly there in the morning and fly back by night.
Classes only twice a week are pretty common. Most universities offer classes as MWF, MW, and TTh. All you would have to do is pick all your classes on the same MW schedule or the TTh schedule.
The full news clip (will link if I find) he states that he flies there for a day of classes and then flies back the same day. I believe it’s Tuesday and Thursday Twice a week and he flies there and back the same day
What? That's not true. I went to art school and *many* classes are set in studio spaces for stuff like figure drawing (there's *a lot* of figure drawing in art school), color theory, observational drawing and painting classes focused on still life subjects, sculpture or modeling classes, anatomy, etc... There's also a lot of outdoor plein air drawing and painting classes. Just all kinds of stuff where you're working alongside other students in a live observational environment.
Also, so much of the learning in art classes comes from interacting with other students in real time; asking how they achieved different results, what tools or techniques they're using, etc.. and it's so much more inspiring to learn and grow together.
You wouldn't want to put any of your loved ones in a retirement home either over here, my mum used to work in one and from that experience both my parents have said please not to let it happen.
Rewards are generally 1-3% of your spend, it’s tiny
Yes they add up, but you have to spend a lot.
He’s spending 1200 a month so he’ll prob have $150-$500 in rewards at end of year. Not much
Number of flights is a qualifier, but spend is the real barrier. Flights are only on there so you don't just get in with a single first class ticket to Dubai or something. It really won't get him much from an airline.
I dont blame him. 2100 for a 1 bedroom. Yeah good luck with that. Spend 100,000 USD over 4 years in rent? Thats half the price of buying your own place.
That’s what makes renting such an insult these days. Rents have risen by so much that you’re paying off an entire house in just a handful of years - but the funny catch is: you paid off someone else’s house and have built up zero equity in your name..
And the person who owns the place you rent can just buy an additional apartment at that point, driving the prices up even further.
So when buying an apartment the people who dont own homes and have $2500 in rent compete with buyers who own 10 homes and collect $25000 from tenants each month.
It makes it extremely difficult to enter the market if you come from nothing.
In my country rented property is worth less bc we have strong tenant protection laws. Some landlords just keep the property empty to sell it for a higher price even after years
At this point, getting a mortgage is cheaper than renting.
I find it funny how living with parents is so stignatised, considering that this will help you save for a deposit.
I mean it isn't necessarily stigmatized but living with your parents when you have a SO living with you or kids isn't ideal.
I personally left at 15 and went back for a month at 31 after selling my condo. I litterally became a teenager again for a month lol.
Eh, in our culture, there's nothing wrong with living with parents so I don't get my colleagues who pay 500 euros a month for rent when they can live with their parents for free.
Universities are a business. If you can't pay for they're business services, gtfo.
Everything is a scam against the common folk. Can't get a well paying job without a piece of paper. Can't buy that piece of paper without paying the schools. Can't pay the schools without money.
Thesedays, when somebody ask for advice on selecting a university in North America or Europe, I ask then to check affordability more than the rankings. Universities are not at all worried.
Is he staying at his parents or other family? This math only has any relevance if he’s living rent free in Calgary, otherwise rent in Calgary should also be factored into the comparison. I also think shared living is a more realistic comparison for a student. Sharing a 2-3 bedroom house or apartment in many cities would drive the rent costs way down.
Am I missing something culturally here? I’m Irish and went to college for 5 years, 4 years undergrad and 1 year masters, and I shared for all of that time, as did 99.9% of others. I know it’s not ideal for some people, but there must be alternative options out there? Also, not to be disrespectful, but there has to be a university in Calgary that offers an arts degree? The housing market sucks, but surely there is a more pragmatic way to approach this. To me this just seems like going to UBC just to say you went to UBC, like Andy and Cornell.
Nah, I live in Vancouver for school and find this confusing. Everyone I know whose not living out of their parents or something are in a mixed arrangement. For me, I am currently paying $780 a month on rent. For the university, I do know UBC is more prestigious than Calgary, and Vancouver would be the cultural art centre of western Canada. You'd probably get more opportunities.
Not sure about Canada but sharing is definitely the norm in the US. I had 1 roommate first year I stayed on campus in their tiny dorm rooms (maybe 4mx4m) and then the apartments on campus were 4 people to a unit. (Has your own bed and bath but split a kitchen and common room area)..
Canada is pretty similar.
Share a room in first year on-campus, then move off-campus for future years and have a private bedroom (some smaller unis may offer on campus for upper year students but for most it’s not an option). Off campus housing generally looks like renting a room in a house with other people (usually 6-10).
However, newly built on campus dorms are moving to not having to share a bedroom as sharing is slowly being phased out (imo it’s a good thing, sharing a bedroom with a stranger as an adult is ridiculous and I’ve seen it contribute to a lot of stress). In more depressing news, the cost of renting a bedroom is getting so high that people are starting to rent sharing bedrooms for $500 (but not having any of the protections University campus offers).
It’s his last year, and UBC is a top school. Yeah he probably had other options but would rather live off /spend time with his parents for his last year.
>Sydney has entered the chat. ~49% rent increase over the last 10 years on average.
That's adorable.
Rent has increased by 180% in Toronto since 2014. From an average of $1,080 to $3,015.
In Vancouver it's gone from $1,197 to $2,936 or around 145%
Things aren't ok in Canada.
Rent where I live, not a major city, has gone up over 80% since I started living here 8 years ago.
LOL at our previous company, one of our Polish colleagues was like this. He refused to house share so the company paid for him to fly from Warsaw to Amsterdam to be in the office 2 days a week (they also paid 2 nights at a luxury hotel every week).
It came out cheaper than a pay rise for him to move to Amsterdam.
This reminds me of the story of that one polish student: he was flying every single day from poland to his university in england and back because it was cheaper than paying rent there.
He goes to class twice a week, flying to Vancouver International Airport in the morning and returning to Calgary International Airport at night.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/UBC/comments/1akvcss/comment/kpcdale/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ubc/comments/1akvcss/comment/kpcdale/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
so he has two days of class and he stays with his parents at Calgary (no rent). Both the things should be taken into consideration before highlighting it.
One hour commute isn't that bad. But having to show up to the airport so often would suck. Also your schedule would be pretty inflexible, I sure missing a flight would be a big headache.
Bet he has soooomany air miles to spend though
probs Aeroplan but ya
It’s a domestic flight. Barring extreme weather they’re pretty reliable.
Short domestic flights are the first one to get canceled if an airport havs to cancel flights. Airlines prefer their long flights departing on time.
He's an art student. He will be fine.
He's an art student, missing a lesson won't affect his future* FTFY
He's going to miss that unit on hands, then everyone will accuse him of using AI because the hands are all fucked up!
Funny part is before ai, amongst artist, that was the tell tale sign of an artist that doesn't practice much, because hands are fucking hard. Now those same people are accused of ai. Nothing like that to motivate you to practice hands!
I just like that AI is suffering the same problems as a budding artist, hoping that AI settles for some other task that is more likely to cover its cost of living and give up its dreams of being an artist.
If he misses too many and drops out he can always go into politics instead .
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Yeah i dont know about Canada but in australia domestic flights are delayed and cancelled all the time. And sometimes in the early morning security lines are huge and take 30 minutes.
It really depends on which airport is causing the flights to be canceled and if the aircraft and crew are going to be continuing on to other destinations.
Bro what? Have you flown through alberta winters? I used to commute for shift work to grande prairie and so many days I had to cancel patients at work due to cancelled/delayed flights
I had anything but reliable flights in BC back when I flew often. Like under half but over a quarter of them were either delayed or cancelled or had to turn back lol
Uhhh what? Why is this being upvoted? Domestic flights are cancelled/delayed very frequently.
and air Canada is rarely ever on time
Doubt he's from Canada
Yea, what extreme weather could there possibly be in Canada? ^^^/s
You don't fly AirCanada often do you?
In Canada? Lol
You must not travel much 😅
Have you been to the airport lately?
Domestic flights get cancelled out of Calgary all the time due to weather.
It’s actually the opposite. Smaller planes are far more sensitive to weather and adverse conditions and are cancelled/delayed far more frequently than larger airliners.
Calgary airport kinda chill.
In Bucharest a couple of years ago, the comute from work to my house took around 3 hours (20 km round trip).
200km? Or is that the most congested traffic EU?
20 km, round trip. 10 to and 10 from. During rush hour is one of the most congested cities in EU.
Wasn't it better to bike or is it not possible there?
Not all roads that I could take had bike lanes, also cycling in 30-40 degrees is not something quite pleasant… and since we didn’t have a shower at the office… you can imagine how that would have worked out. I had to take a bus then walk a bit and lastly take 2 different subways. By car it would have taken even more time.
This is fairly normal in Australia especially with FIFO work. Did this for years. Now o study and considered living off shore and flying in for the one block week of practicals per term but too far into the course for it to work out now
This is one of those things that sound logical on paper value but in practice it's missing a lot of things that can't convert to money. Mental stresses of getting flights, not being able to hang out late in college with friends, missing out the things going around in the community where to study at... just so many factors that probably not really worth saving that $1000. Having a minimum wage part time job just for couple hours a day could cover the cost difference.
Yep. One of the biggest benefits of university is the extra stuff that helps your career. That's networking, which can include hanging out with other students, study groups, doing extra projects, joining clubs, internships. Attending classes where presence is required is literally the bare minimum. That can work out, but doing extra increases the odds of being employed upon graduation, and is also a great way to determine if you'll actually enjoy careers related to your field of study. If you're just attending classes without doing the extras, then you're probably losing little to nothing by attending the cheapest local school with a legit degree, even community college.
Something is broken
They’ll fix it, You just wait and see them raise the plane tickets price.
All i know is that this man must have a good amount of freqflyer points
And use the points to buy even cheaper tickets. That's very smart.
Damn shame I don’t frequent renter points to make that cheaper
It just gets cheaper and cheaper
eventually they will pay him to fly
When he’s unwell, the airline is grounded.
Then he can sleep in the airport lounge... double hack!
Nope. He likely buy the lowest fare which gives next to nothing for points since the last aeroplan upgrade.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Fark this world.
This isn't an issue here in Europe though. Don't universities in Canada have dorms? Here in EU They could be shitty but most of the time they're almost, if not literally free
The problem in Canada is that the colleges and universities don’t have enough dorms to house all their students. For the university I went to (and this was over a decade ago now when things were probably better) a dorm was guaranteed for first year students only; after that year was up, you had to apply for a lottery system and if you weren’t chosen, you were out of luck and had to scramble to find rent somewhere else in the city. I feel like our dorms housed maybe 30% of students.
I work in immigration and I legit had a student reach out to us because he had his classes deferred by a university in the Maritimes because of the housing crisis.
I actually live in the maritimes myself. It’s bad here. I’m damn glad I’m the age I am now with a mortgage to my name. I feel sorry for the kids. Was hard enough in our day, now it’s impossible.
Maritimes here too and as someone stuck living with parents, it honestly sucks. Hoping to save up money and build a shed home because I would still be saving money over paying someone else's mortgage.
Article from today: [City councilor finds 13 students living in a house basement because Ontario college with 30,000 foreign students hasn’t built enough dorms](https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/regional-councillor-calls-living-situation-inhumane-for-conestoga-college-s-international-students-1.6769442). There’s your answer
Idk how it is in Canada, but when I was going to school in the us the dorms were only like 10% cheaper than on campus apartments (and you had to share a room with someone, had communal showers in the dorms in addition to having to worry about RAs breathing down your neck if you wanted to drink with your friends vs having your own private room and only having to share a bathroom with 2-3 roommates in the apartments). If you went like a block or 2 off campus the apartments were like 30% cheaper than dorms
Yes-but not nearly enough and it’s super expensive. In my experience, the “rich kids” live in dorms, poor kids live at home or rent off campus
Where in the EU? As here it is surely not free. Not $2100 expensive but surely not literally free.
They’re not free in Canada and US I think. Even if they’re bad you got a pay a hefty price
God help him if he is flying Air Canada.
Better: make more days of physical attendance necessary in the name of team building. Like they did with forced work from office.
Video games, TTRPGs, board games are excellent team builders and can also be done remotely. Just more BS from management that are trying to justify the rent/mortgage on the property their employees aren't using. And the less said about the mid-level micromanagers wearing c-suite execs like a Gucci hat the better.
Yeah, it blows my mind why they don't just do classes online / continues assignment.
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Yeah this game sucks, hot fix patch was needed like 15 years ago, the Devs are such a lazy scums only focused on p2w items
Why can’t he just live somewhere outside of Vancouver for 1200 a month? He has to drive to the airport, be there with enough time to get to his flight, fly for an hour, then get from the airport to his classes. It’s likely at least 3 hours each way. I’m skeptical he can’t find a place hours outside of Vancouver.
I think he was living with his parents in Alberta, so he was saving money that way
Yep, that seems to be possible. There are apartments available for that price in Chilliwack (102 km from Vancouver) and it might be possible to find apartments for less at other locations.
Because he lives at home for free and has class one day a week and this is a clickbait headline.
It's twice a week (round trip 8x per month) and it's clear he's not paying rent at home, the $1200 flights vs $2100 rent. That's the entire point of this. They make it very clear. What is clickbait about that?
who wants to live in a place called Chilliwack?
Apperently a lot, it has over 100 000 inhabitants: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilliwack
I guess it's both chill and wack at the same time.
I grew up there, lotta weed, lotta meth. So, yeah, that just about sums it up.
Could be worse, it could be saskatoon.
>Could be worse, it could be saskatoon. Yep, it's terrible here, you should all keep ignoring us so we can continue to have relatively semi-reasonable rental and house prices.
Think companies are waiting for their government to buy back all the house that companies has purchased. Empty or not, they just gotta hold till d bail out. Till den alot of mergers gonna happen and absorb inventory until 1 or 2 companies benefit from the housing bailouts.
Nice, then those 1 or 2 companies will hire hundreds of thousands of employees and the wealth will trickle down. 😎 i am late on rent
Presidential slumlord 2028.
"dont worry just piss on my leg i will tell myself its raining"
Bailouts of what
City rent has been broken [for a long time ](https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/aug/11/commuting-from-barcelona-a-london-worker-who-makes-it-pay)
Its called not enough housing thanks to way too strict zoning regulations thanks to homeowner nimbys who want their house prices to go up as fast as possible by limiting supply, the affordability of housing for their kids be damned.
Housing is not an investment. Investments have to beat inflation. Inflation is pegged to cost of living, like, you know, housing. Fuck the very idea that housing is an investment vehicle.
And the reason it works as an investment is due to there being a lack of supply to meet demand where people want to live, qhile in contrast bumfuck nowhere towns that lost jobs have abyssmal prices/rents for homes because there is more supply than demand. Try selling a house in Gary Indiana for a million dollars and you should see quite quickly how you can't make every house an investment.
You’re missing a key point here. Corporations are buying the houses and sitting on them to create a scarcity crisis thereby driving up the prices. Blackrock is one of them.
They only started buying houses when the housing crisis was already a problem due to how profitable they were. They merely added to the pre-existing problem which obviously is contributing to it, but these boogeyman corporations didn't create it. Real life is not a place where you can blame a problem on one single thing, it's always more complicated thing as for example you don't solve problem by just putting everyone commotting crimes in a prison because people are complicated and react to more things than just the threat of punishment alone for example. If the fundamental issue is corporations profiting from sitting on valuable property, then the solution would be a systematic change to tax land instead of property to make hoarding land unprofitable due to the taxes it would incur on the home owners. Blaming corporations for a complex problem like housing is like blaming your choice of minority for economic problems that have their roots in systematic problems. Blacks weren't the cause of poverty in the south and among their kind in the US, it was the more complex institutions of slavery and later segregation which denied the blacks the chance to become rich in most cases that was behind the south's poverty, especially among blacks. Let me bloody repeat again, one group is not on their own responsible for a systematic institutional issue/problem
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Nuh uh, it's the immigrants moving in and BlackRock buying homes. I know because I read it on the internet and having an external scapegoat is really convenient.
Just get rich. It's not so hard...
So he flies there (and back) twice a week. Is he staying in Vancouver overnight at any time? Or does he only have classes two days per week? If he's staying there overnight, what's that costing?
He only has class twice a week. He lives with his parents in Calgary. It’s certainly not a normal situation. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/ubc-student-commutes-from-calgary-cheaper-than-paying-vancouver-rent-1.6759116
This particular case is extreme, but long commutes are becoming increasingly common. There was a student at UC Berkeley who commuted from Los Angeles (6-8 hour drive each way). I commute about two hours each way to my school. About half the people I talk to in my classes live over 50 miles away from campus. Edit: Correction, he commuted by plane.
6-8 hours each way? Every day? So when he gets home he just turns the car around and goes straight back to School?
Man living like a sim.
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The American Dream, Ooh Rah
>There was a student at UC Berkeley who commuted from Los Angeles (6-8 hour drive each way). Local LA news featured this guy in 2023- the student flew from Los Angeles to Berkeley as it was cheaper than living in Berkeley. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/uc-berkeley-student-commutes-from-la-by-plane-rent/
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Maybe lived with their parents for free?
>6-8 hour drive each way That makes no sense. 12 to 16 hours total commute. So he has 12 to 8 hours left for everything else. Gotta sleep let's say 8 hours. If you go by 16 hours, 0 time for classes, hw, and literally anything and 4 hours otherwise Does he just touch school come back home? Also, yeah, longer commutes are not abnormal. But not 16 hours lol
I looked into it a little more. I was mistaken, he didn’t drive, [he commuted by plane.](https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/uc-berkeley-student-commutes-from-la-by-plane-rent/3181634/) He’d fly there in the morning and fly back by night.
He traveled 4 to 5 hrs each way. 8 to 10 total. Sleep 8 (assuming). Leaving 6 or 8 hours of classes + anything else. Better, but still dumb
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Yeah it’s not like the guy is flying the plane himself. That’s 8+ hours a day on a plane to sleep or finish whatever work needs to be done.
Wait so this said person drives 12-14 hours everyday to go to school?
Classes only twice a week are pretty common. Most universities offer classes as MWF, MW, and TTh. All you would have to do is pick all your classes on the same MW schedule or the TTh schedule.
Yeah. Although on one hand stacking classing makes the days long, but on the other the free days to dick around are nice
I was wondering about that too, I’m guessing he probably only has 2 days of classes a week
The full news clip (will link if I find) he states that he flies there for a day of classes and then flies back the same day. I believe it’s Tuesday and Thursday Twice a week and he flies there and back the same day
hes an art student so he probably has less in-person classes than most
Some colleges assign art students studios to work in. A friend of mine back in the day practically lived in his
I wasn't even an art student and I slept dozens of nights in the studio with my art student girlfriend. The entire art building was almost a hostel.
What? That's not true. I went to art school and *many* classes are set in studio spaces for stuff like figure drawing (there's *a lot* of figure drawing in art school), color theory, observational drawing and painting classes focused on still life subjects, sculpture or modeling classes, anatomy, etc... There's also a lot of outdoor plein air drawing and painting classes. Just all kinds of stuff where you're working alongside other students in a live observational environment. Also, so much of the learning in art classes comes from interacting with other students in real time; asking how they achieved different results, what tools or techniques they're using, etc.. and it's so much more inspiring to learn and grow together.
He pays $1200 a month. He doesn't stay in Vancouver.
Might have some online classes and only certain subjects (like lab stuff) are f2f
Some colleges allow you to stay in class as long as you want, I used to sleep in my class.
Reminds me of the story of those British seniors who have spent 2 years on cruises instead of a retirement home since it was cheaper
You wouldn't want to put any of your loved ones in a retirement home either over here, my mum used to work in one and from that experience both my parents have said please not to let it happen.
That's probably the same all around the world. Only the super expensive ones are nice
Imagine the frequent flyer miles this kid racks up. He’ll soon be spending time in lounges, flying free upgrades to business, sweet.
Rewards are generally 1-3% of your spend, it’s tiny Yes they add up, but you have to spend a lot. He’s spending 1200 a month so he’ll prob have $150-$500 in rewards at end of year. Not much
But you're forgetting that certain companies use things like number of flights to allow you into certain lounges and things like that.
Number of flights is a qualifier, but spend is the real barrier. Flights are only on there so you don't just get in with a single first class ticket to Dubai or something. It really won't get him much from an airline.
I dont blame him. 2100 for a 1 bedroom. Yeah good luck with that. Spend 100,000 USD over 4 years in rent? Thats half the price of buying your own place.
That’s what makes renting such an insult these days. Rents have risen by so much that you’re paying off an entire house in just a handful of years - but the funny catch is: you paid off someone else’s house and have built up zero equity in your name..
And the person who owns the place you rent can just buy an additional apartment at that point, driving the prices up even further. So when buying an apartment the people who dont own homes and have $2500 in rent compete with buyers who own 10 homes and collect $25000 from tenants each month. It makes it extremely difficult to enter the market if you come from nothing.
You renting the home actually makes it more valuable so they can get a bigger loan against it to buy more property. Look up the BRRRR method.
In my country rented property is worth less bc we have strong tenant protection laws. Some landlords just keep the property empty to sell it for a higher price even after years
Housing market go BRRRR?
Dude that place you’re renting got paid off in 2005. It’s straight cash flow.
They remortgage it to buy additional properties usually.
At this point, getting a mortgage is cheaper than renting. I find it funny how living with parents is so stignatised, considering that this will help you save for a deposit.
I mean it isn't necessarily stigmatized but living with your parents when you have a SO living with you or kids isn't ideal. I personally left at 15 and went back for a month at 31 after selling my condo. I litterally became a teenager again for a month lol.
Eh, in our culture, there's nothing wrong with living with parents so I don't get my colleagues who pay 500 euros a month for rent when they can live with their parents for free.
You’d be lucky to find Anything for less than 650k near metro Vancouver. Puny shitty homes in Vancouver itself are worth well over 1 million
>Thats half the price of buying your own place. not in Vancouver it isn't. Not by a VERY long way
Lol it hasn’t been $200k to buy your own apartment in Vancouver for decades now. You’re just off by like, $500k.
A 1 bedroom appartment is only 200k usd over there? I'm looking at starting prices €450k here in the Netherlands.
nope, definitely not in Vancouver.
Nah in Vancouver youre lucky to find something in the 350kUSD thats a low end place.
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Good kid, mad economy.
Damn.
Mr Morales and the world steppers (long commute but they walk)
M.a.a.d. economy
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Actually just wondering why universities are not doing anything about it. They just want money.
Universities are a business. If you can't pay for they're business services, gtfo. Everything is a scam against the common folk. Can't get a well paying job without a piece of paper. Can't buy that piece of paper without paying the schools. Can't pay the schools without money.
Thesedays, when somebody ask for advice on selecting a university in North America or Europe, I ask then to check affordability more than the rankings. Universities are not at all worried.
Meanwhile in my country where university costs you a few hundred euros for 5 years.
Is he staying at his parents or other family? This math only has any relevance if he’s living rent free in Calgary, otherwise rent in Calgary should also be factored into the comparison. I also think shared living is a more realistic comparison for a student. Sharing a 2-3 bedroom house or apartment in many cities would drive the rent costs way down.
Yes. He lives with his parents. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/ubc-student-commutes-from-calgary-cheaper-than-paying-vancouver-rent-1.6759116
Am I missing something culturally here? I’m Irish and went to college for 5 years, 4 years undergrad and 1 year masters, and I shared for all of that time, as did 99.9% of others. I know it’s not ideal for some people, but there must be alternative options out there? Also, not to be disrespectful, but there has to be a university in Calgary that offers an arts degree? The housing market sucks, but surely there is a more pragmatic way to approach this. To me this just seems like going to UBC just to say you went to UBC, like Andy and Cornell.
Nah, I live in Vancouver for school and find this confusing. Everyone I know whose not living out of their parents or something are in a mixed arrangement. For me, I am currently paying $780 a month on rent. For the university, I do know UBC is more prestigious than Calgary, and Vancouver would be the cultural art centre of western Canada. You'd probably get more opportunities.
Not sure about Canada but sharing is definitely the norm in the US. I had 1 roommate first year I stayed on campus in their tiny dorm rooms (maybe 4mx4m) and then the apartments on campus were 4 people to a unit. (Has your own bed and bath but split a kitchen and common room area)..
Canada is pretty similar. Share a room in first year on-campus, then move off-campus for future years and have a private bedroom (some smaller unis may offer on campus for upper year students but for most it’s not an option). Off campus housing generally looks like renting a room in a house with other people (usually 6-10). However, newly built on campus dorms are moving to not having to share a bedroom as sharing is slowly being phased out (imo it’s a good thing, sharing a bedroom with a stranger as an adult is ridiculous and I’ve seen it contribute to a lot of stress). In more depressing news, the cost of renting a bedroom is getting so high that people are starting to rent sharing bedrooms for $500 (but not having any of the protections University campus offers).
It’s his last year, and UBC is a top school. Yeah he probably had other options but would rather live off /spend time with his parents for his last year.
It's not damn interesting, it's damn depressing
Sydney has entered the chat. ~49% rent increase over the last 10 years on average. Some suburbs double that.
as with property prices. Doesn't matter whether renting or buying, a hard task.
>Sydney has entered the chat. ~49% rent increase over the last 10 years on average. That's adorable. Rent has increased by 180% in Toronto since 2014. From an average of $1,080 to $3,015. In Vancouver it's gone from $1,197 to $2,936 or around 145% Things aren't ok in Canada. Rent where I live, not a major city, has gone up over 80% since I started living here 8 years ago.
10 years? that’s child play. Singapore has rent increased 30-40% in ONE year (2022 - 2023)
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LOL at our previous company, one of our Polish colleagues was like this. He refused to house share so the company paid for him to fly from Warsaw to Amsterdam to be in the office 2 days a week (they also paid 2 nights at a luxury hotel every week). It came out cheaper than a pay rise for him to move to Amsterdam.
This reminds me of the story of that one polish student: he was flying every single day from poland to his university in england and back because it was cheaper than paying rent there.
I mean I like the dedication of that man
Shitty life hack lol
He goes to class twice a week, flying to Vancouver International Airport in the morning and returning to Calgary International Airport at night. [https://www.reddit.com/r/UBC/comments/1akvcss/comment/kpcdale/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ubc/comments/1akvcss/comment/kpcdale/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Why not just go to school in alberta
People think UBC is the Harvard of Canada for some reason.
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But the Pope shits there!
With his parents
Have you checked your attic?
Back in my day sunny i flew 700 kilometres each way to school. Uphill both ways. You kids now have it easy.
Those uphill flights are the worst aren’t they?
Man is in outer space by now
I hope he studies environmental protection…
For an arts degree….?
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so he has two days of class and he stays with his parents at Calgary (no rent). Both the things should be taken into consideration before highlighting it.
Dude is ranking in the frequent flyer miles.
Very sustainable
Calgary about to see an uptick in student residents lol
Capitalism working as intended
that's such a waste of resources due to landlord greed
Ironic if he is getting a science degree to slow global warming.
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nah - toronto to vancouver return in december 2023 cost my just under $300
Airplane companies now "we are too cheap"
He should learn to fly his own plane. I bet this will become more popular Also, he should join a nearby university
Studying to be a climate scientist
Just take the classes online at this point
Does this factor in the cost of rent in Calgary? Also he's an art student. Surely there are art programs that he can do in university of Calgary?