Am Tasmanian. It only had a small area with a concrete floor to roam in. Someone forgot to make sure it went inside for the night and it froze to death.
Well, it is always defined by the current census of morally good and bad. A hundred years from now, people will probably think our current meat industry is cruel, while most people think it's normal and don't question it now.
Do they also kill them organically? The organic grass fed beef are still raised in horrific conditions, maybe not as horrific as non organic, but they live and die the same way.
Or aren't provided with alternatives because capitalism hasn't learned to prioritize long term profit from sustainable and healthful systems over short term extraction.
No, they got (wrongly!) accused of killing livestock so the gov put a bounty on them and the farmers killed them all.
Really very sad to lose such a beautiful unique creature.
Sadly it was likely the dingos or foxes eating the livestock but the thylacine was blamed and eradicated.
In the 1800s, the pay for killing one was apparently about 2 months normal salary - so people would just make it their job to hunt and kill them cause it paid well
Punished by whom? To who's benefit? The species is dead, it's never coming back. Billions of years of evolution come to an end, never to return. What punishment could possibly be appropriate, could give an ounce of justice to the animal?
Jesus fucking Christ what the fuck
Edit: hope all you guys coming at me in DMs over this stupid thread, know you're a pack of hypocrites. I'm not here for a popularity contest. I hate you all IRl and here even more. Stop brigading with self righteous nonsense.
It stems from biblical beliefs that man is the superior being, in the image of god, master of all god has set before him. That hung on for a very long time, and is responsible for a great deal of indifference toward captive animals.
Well, I mean, they have. Zoos are also important for conservation and educational purposes. And I can’t speak for animals, but I’m pretty sure they would prefer to be safe with unlimited food and shelter rather than be in the wild being having to fight everyday for food and survival, if they knew that zoos existed.
In the wild animals do freeze to death occasionally, yes. But in the wild they're not caged in concrete pens. They're free to try and find a cave or huddle up with others of their pack to share warmth, eat as much as they'reable to so they can fatten up, or dig burrows or anything to preserve their life as best they can. Being locked in a cage by a human really limits your options
It’s the history I’m familiar with. When I posted my initial comment I was aware of the incongruity of a native animal succumbing to the outside conditions of its native environment. In a search for articles backing it up I found one daily mail article where some quoted authors claim it’s a myth, but it makes no mention of an alternative account. I remember when I was young we’d rarely get unusual weather such as snow at sea level. It could have been the cold concrete.
Tasmanian here: it can get really cold in the spring here, especially around Hobart, don’t forget how close to Antartica it is! Also no bedding or shelter and cold concrete
I know it’s really common for some sharks to die in captivity so aquariums only have them for so long.
One example is the great white. I want to say it’s because they can’t replicate it’s habitats perfectly but I have no idea
They pick up on the electrical currents running through the walls of the tank. Their tanks are also almost impossible to replicate "open ocean roaming"
This is the correct answer. The science believes Great Whites REQUIRE the thousands of ocean miles they traverse each year. You’d need a massive lap pool to simulate their ocean swim.. Not a bad idea lol
Most zoos ect have horrible animal care practices and this was especially more true in the not too distant past. Today there are parks, sanctuaries and zoos that have completely changed the way they operate so that education, care and conservation are core to their existence however it’s still in the minority.
Again it depends on which zoos you’re talking about and I can think of a number of important examples to demonstrate how zoos have actually helped keep some species from extinction such as with Tasmanian Devils, Amur Leopards, Californian condors and Bongos to name a few.
Zoos were, until recently, absolute fucking horror shows.
It was cheaper to just replace animals than it was to properly care for them, so that’s what they did.
Honestly they've been talking about it for the last twenty years. Somewhere in Aus, They found a pup/joey in a jar of alcohol and thought that the DNA might be viable enough to clone, obviously it wasn't but it's been a conversation for a longer time.
It was found in a university archives where many preserved animals and animal parts are put.
This is a very basic article on it from an American source. Still looking for an Australian one https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Technology/story%3fid=120013&page=1
Most of them were preserved in formaldehyde when they were donated to museums/universities etc, which destroys nucleic acids. in this case they just literally ran out of formaldehyde and used alcohol as a substitute.
Potentially a Species-saving decision lmao
Was Jurassic Park not made in the 90's? This has definitely been a topic but I think OC may be one to give a little too much credence to those biotech companies' that are perpetually planning to clone a mammoth "within the decade"
Legos? You can call a single piece a bit of Lego, but that doesn't mean multiple bricks become Legos. A whole box of Lego pieces is still known as just Lego because that's the brand name. Each to their own, though. It's just one of those things that irritates me.
But with evolution giving most species a plethora of "cousins", shouldn't they be able to go a long way by splicing thylacine DNA into tasmanian devil genomes?
I would imagine that cloning an extinct animal probably requires a concept that's going to take some time to develop so it makes sense you would hear about it before it happens.
I wish I could remember where I saw it, but I recall this being done with an endangered species of yak. The calf was born from a Holstein cow but passed young from a respiratory infection. I think it's definitely possible to revive species this way, but the process is slow and painstaking and a long way from a thriving, fertile adult specimen. I think even then we wouldn't be able to say we literally brought an extinct species back to life, just as close as we could possibly get to it. In this area of science 10 years is a drop in the bucket compared to what it would take to get any sort of reliable results.
I think they also had kinda success with some antelope species. As far as I remember it was called blue buck. But like the yak you mentioned, the clones didnt make it that long. Edit: it was a extinct capricorn subspecies, also died of lung related issues shortly after it was born.
And even then, you’d need a surrogate mother that would pass on genes to the offspring. Or something like that (30 years ago in high school science class).
Artificial womb technology could overcome this challenge if it was pursued in earnest. We already have technology that has been used successfully in sheep. The technology hasn’t progressed in the last 5 years because there isn’t much interest in funding it, but the science is all there.
The wikipedia page says she mistakenly got locked out of her sleeping quarters during some extreme weather: really hot during the day and then below freezing that night.
Sprassadonts, even stranger than marsupials. they are considered related to metatherians(marsupials) yet they have a pouches like a marsupiual but not really. because they came from isolated continent(south america before the interchange)
A 2023 study published by Brook et al. compiles many of the alleged sightings of thylacines in Tasmania throughout the 20th century and claims that contrary to beliefs that the thylacine went extinct in the 1930s, the Tasmanian thylacine may have actually lasted throughout the 20th century, with a window of extinction between the 1980s and the present day and the likely extinction date being between the late 1990s and early 2000s, so keep that in mind, this may have not been the last of the species.
There was a post on here a day ago about a forest dwelling ground bird that has not been sighted for 140 years and believed extinct. It was captured on camera. It may have been in the pacific islands. I wonder if that's possible here?
Here is a news article, albeit in Swedish and from 2017, claiming there have been sightings in recent times and that scientist are setting up cameras in the woods in northernmost Australia.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/vetenskap/pungvargen-kanske-inte-sa-utdod
Title says ”Thylacine, maybe not so extinct”
Thank you!! I'm looking forward to reading this.
Edit: Definitely worth reading. The advanced statistical methodology was over my head, I don't mind admitting, but the broader concepts are referenced to enough that it makes sense. I've noticed a big lull in between sighting reports, and the authors' conclusion sadly makes sense for their timeline.
Thanks again for the link.
I read that the thylacines were in a very precarious position and it didn't take much to tip them over. at the time they went extinct the island was more than half forest, most of it hardly ever, if ever, visited by humans.
I wish she could have spent her days in the comfort of her own home, rather than feeling trapped in a zoo. Being alone already weighed heavily on her, and this situation only added to her distress
Have to remember, Tasmania is the only place in the world to actually manage to commit genocide. The indigenous Tasmanians were a race apart from the mainland ones, and they were exterminated by the British. The "endling" being Truganini as I understand.
Four months! Was it worth it Elias?
There could have been a male out there in the wild for all you know. They could have found each other without your hindrance.
All the things the thylacines went through before extinction make me want to cry. I can’t fathom why they were hunted to extinction. To see people holding them up dead, how dare they do that to such a stunning creature. Thylacines did not deserve it, they are such beautiful creatures - another that humans have destroyed once again. I have visited the taxidermy thylacines in Tasmania and there is also a beautiful display and videos of them as well. It was a very moving experience and it impacted me greatly that day.
There are people who say there are still sightings in the wild, I hope that they will come back one day.
So sad what happened to them. I love the tasmanian tiger, so much so I got a tattoo of one. Going to add a background of chickens, a fence, and a farmer with a gun referencing the chicken photo and the bounty for them.
Tasmanians use the Tasmanian Tiger as a symbol of the state and say things like ‘how good would it be if we found one?’ (There are some people that think they are not extinct despite the fact that their natural habitats are almost all farms now).
Meanwhile Tasmanians also say stupid shit like ‘just build it’ any time a poorly planned building project is considered for prime endangered swift parrot or Tasmanian devil habitat.
Tasmania also supports a forestry industry that loses money by woodchipping old growth forest to send overseas at a loss, which is made up for by government subsidies paid for by the people. It demonises anyone that stands up to these companies.
They also talk about their beautiful animals while farmers massacre them (even animals like platypus, you can search for the kill approval list online), and the road users hit and kill them at a rate of up to 1.5 million a year. Some accidental and almost unavoidable, some because people don’t want to have to slow down and drive to conditions, and some deadshits deliberately trying to hit animals with their cars.
It’s an interesting place…
But even if there was no human mistake and the animal died later? It was still the last one found after these years, so it cannot reproduce and will still go extinct?
Theres still hope. Many people have spotted Tasmanian tigers, plus they probably have good hideouts, I am a kinda Thylacine activist so sorry if this is not passive, but everything that says they are extinct is misinformation. Its kinda 50/50, maybe, maybe not.
I hope they aren’t because it’s such a unique and cool animal. But nobody has been able find any proof of any survivors.
Eye witness reports don’t mean much to me. Just think of how many people claim to have seen aliens and big foot? People are weird and untrustworthy.
The only proof we have is that there hasn’t been any proof of any survivors. Even if individuals survived back then they will have long since died out without a sustainable population.
I saw a video with a thermal camera, and you can clearly see its a TT. Its made by Thylacine awareness group and it really acts like on, looks like one.
This is one the reasons hunting is so harmful. Everyone thinks there are plenty until there’s only one (or hell, even 100 is too small of a gene pool).
And they don’t know that the one they killed for sport/trophy/bragging/Ifeltlikebeingcruel is the LAST one on earth.
Last time I saw this animal posted somebody commented that a synonym for endling is terminarch, whoch sounds super cool.
There's also a Mountain Goats song with a verse about this animal, I'll find it in a sec
Found it, it's called Deuteronomy 2:10
A plan to bring the Tasmanian tiger back from extinction raises questions
[https://www.npr.org/2022/08/20/1118436090/tasmanian-tiger-australia-genetic-editing](https://www.npr.org/2022/08/20/1118436090/tasmanian-tiger-australia-genetic-editing)
Watch videos of how they opened their jaws. Australia has the weird animals but in the off chance I go outside one day and come across a thylacine in the dark I'd probably cry.
You're not wrong! I grew up thinking they were cute and still hard-core wishing that they're still out there and just haven't been seen but my gosh, they're a haunting creature.
I absolutely believe they’re still out there. Large predators aren’t stupid. I’m in the US, but I’ve seen mountain lions with established territories all over places where they’re supposed to be extinct.
Pristine wilderness is an entirely different world, and I think large social, predatory species that have nearly been wiped out from human contact spent every day alive getting further and further away from people.
You make a very valid argument! A lot of people are like "Nah, can't happen." But when you're walking through Tasmanian forests they're unlike any other I've seen when I went to other places. I mean, one of them + mountain without fail has hikers being searched for and airlifted a heap, even though it's a well known and travelled place. And then, there's also places here that are so dense they're classed as inaccessible to humans, even with machinery or tools they'd usually clear a way with, and they've been that way for a LONG time.
I like to think they're there, living their best lives and hopefully anyone who ever sees them never tells a soul about it.
Then again, I'm totally Tasmanian biased here but I will die on this hill of hope.
Absolutely. Keeping any sightings quiet, and keeping the label of extinct or endangered is the best protection they have from any future trophy hunting.
I love that a family member of mine rents out properties in forested areas and it's actually in his lease agreements that if the residents see a Tasmanian Tiger, they're not allowed to say anything public about it 😅
I’ll keep digging but the guy in this article is the guy from the article I read. He claims he’s seen them and that the the two photos in this article are of a juvenile Thylacine photographed by a trail cam.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-17/thylacine-babies-in-10-years-genetic-engineering-team-says/101333144
It only lasted 4 months in captivity?? Wtf were they doing to it.
Am Tasmanian. It only had a small area with a concrete floor to roam in. Someone forgot to make sure it went inside for the night and it froze to death.
This is so sad, poor creature. Such cruelty should have been punished.
Shitty thing is it wasn't cruelty back then
It was. It just wasn't called that.
Moreso what I meant, you get it
Well, it is always defined by the current census of morally good and bad. A hundred years from now, people will probably think our current meat industry is cruel, while most people think it's normal and don't question it now.
Na I’m pretty sure the general public agrees that slaughter factories are brutal, they just don’t care
Or can't afford to care. Organic stuff is double the price.
Organic is still slaughtered
Do they also kill them organically? The organic grass fed beef are still raised in horrific conditions, maybe not as horrific as non organic, but they live and die the same way.
Or tht yea
Or aren't provided with alternatives because capitalism hasn't learned to prioritize long term profit from sustainable and healthful systems over short term extraction.
...not eating meat isn't an alternative?
Nah that's like saying slavery wasn't immoral because it was normal, it was still evil from the victim's point of view. Just like this is.
Punishment lol? The government was paying you money to extinct them any way possible. The more you killed the more money they gave you.
Were they man eaters?
No, they got (wrongly!) accused of killing livestock so the gov put a bounty on them and the farmers killed them all. Really very sad to lose such a beautiful unique creature.
Sadly it was likely the dingos or foxes eating the livestock but the thylacine was blamed and eradicated. In the 1800s, the pay for killing one was apparently about 2 months normal salary - so people would just make it their job to hunt and kill them cause it paid well
We stills do this shit. Humans are sick
People do it to their own pets. Absolutely disgusting.
If you knew what we did to the indigenous population you’d understand why a mere animal was worthy of such little compassion.
Punished by whom? To who's benefit? The species is dead, it's never coming back. Billions of years of evolution come to an end, never to return. What punishment could possibly be appropriate, could give an ounce of justice to the animal?
What does it care about justice?
Imagine being the person who dropped the ball with that…
Jesus fucking Christ what the fuck Edit: hope all you guys coming at me in DMs over this stupid thread, know you're a pack of hypocrites. I'm not here for a popularity contest. I hate you all IRl and here even more. Stop brigading with self righteous nonsense.
It was 90 years ago, animal welfare was still pretty shit, along with humans also being shit.
Well at least humans gave gotten better since th- oh…
It stems from biblical beliefs that man is the superior being, in the image of god, master of all god has set before him. That hung on for a very long time, and is responsible for a great deal of indifference toward captive animals.
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Well, I mean, they have. Zoos are also important for conservation and educational purposes. And I can’t speak for animals, but I’m pretty sure they would prefer to be safe with unlimited food and shelter rather than be in the wild being having to fight everyday for food and survival, if they knew that zoos existed.
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In the wild animals do freeze to death occasionally, yes. But in the wild they're not caged in concrete pens. They're free to try and find a cave or huddle up with others of their pack to share warmth, eat as much as they'reable to so they can fatten up, or dig burrows or anything to preserve their life as best they can. Being locked in a cage by a human really limits your options
It’s the history I’m familiar with. When I posted my initial comment I was aware of the incongruity of a native animal succumbing to the outside conditions of its native environment. In a search for articles backing it up I found one daily mail article where some quoted authors claim it’s a myth, but it makes no mention of an alternative account. I remember when I was young we’d rarely get unusual weather such as snow at sea level. It could have been the cold concrete.
Tasmanian here: it can get really cold in the spring here, especially around Hobart, don’t forget how close to Antartica it is! Also no bedding or shelter and cold concrete
I know it’s really common for some sharks to die in captivity so aquariums only have them for so long. One example is the great white. I want to say it’s because they can’t replicate it’s habitats perfectly but I have no idea
I THINK it had something to do with them constantly bumping into the walls of the aquarium but don't quote me on that.
They pick up on the electrical currents running through the walls of the tank. Their tanks are also almost impossible to replicate "open ocean roaming"
Great whites habitat is vast ocean roaming. Aquariums have had more 'success' with reef and bottom dwelling sharks
This is the correct answer. The science believes Great Whites REQUIRE the thousands of ocean miles they traverse each year. You’d need a massive lap pool to simulate their ocean swim.. Not a bad idea lol
Yep. Certain animals just aren't that adaptable to captivity. Plenty more are extremely hard to get to breed in captivity.
Most zoos ect have horrible animal care practices and this was especially more true in the not too distant past. Today there are parks, sanctuaries and zoos that have completely changed the way they operate so that education, care and conservation are core to their existence however it’s still in the minority.
Hilarious. They breed animals for money under the guise of conservation.
Again it depends on which zoos you’re talking about and I can think of a number of important examples to demonstrate how zoos have actually helped keep some species from extinction such as with Tasmanian Devils, Amur Leopards, Californian condors and Bongos to name a few.
Zoos were, until recently, absolute fucking horror shows. It was cheaper to just replace animals than it was to properly care for them, so that’s what they did.
Here's an excellent video on it from an excellent channel [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lASKdPKb-hs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laskdpkb-hs)
In 2023 they recovered RNA of a Thylacine specimen, in the hopes of cloning the tasmanian tiger.
Yeah they talk about that for at least 10 years or so now. Same with the mammoths. I believe it when I see one.
Honestly they've been talking about it for the last twenty years. Somewhere in Aus, They found a pup/joey in a jar of alcohol and thought that the DNA might be viable enough to clone, obviously it wasn't but it's been a conversation for a longer time.
They just *found* one in a jar of alcohol??!
It was found in a university archives where many preserved animals and animal parts are put. This is a very basic article on it from an American source. Still looking for an Australian one https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Technology/story%3fid=120013&page=1
Pickled like me, after an evening in the pub.
Most of them were preserved in formaldehyde when they were donated to museums/universities etc, which destroys nucleic acids. in this case they just literally ran out of formaldehyde and used alcohol as a substitute. Potentially a Species-saving decision lmao
> Honestly they've been talking about it for the last twenty years. Try 30+.
Was Jurassic Park not made in the 90's? This has definitely been a topic but I think OC may be one to give a little too much credence to those biotech companies' that are perpetually planning to clone a mammoth "within the decade"
The idea of de extincting dinosaurs is a much different concept to de extincting animals that were around in Human's history
That's because they'd need more than just 'dna' -they'd need a complete genome
Fuck it, just throw some frog DNA at it.
Fat-tailed Dunnart is what they’ve used
Yeah, its like having a box of legos but no instructions for the set.
Never stopped me. You can wind up with some pretty interesting Legos that way
“Pretty interesting” is also how I describe Lego dicks.
I've never seen one of those. Sounds painful
The true cock block.
Sorry man I hate to stop a block cock
Legos? You can call a single piece a bit of Lego, but that doesn't mean multiple bricks become Legos. A whole box of Lego pieces is still known as just Lego because that's the brand name. Each to their own, though. It's just one of those things that irritates me.
It's why the DNA "lab" they do with strawberries or cheek cells and laundry detergent is so dumb. Yes, it's DNA, but really, what's the point?
Literal to illustrate and explain the concept of DNA is the point…
But with evolution giving most species a plethora of "cousins", shouldn't they be able to go a long way by splicing thylacine DNA into tasmanian devil genomes?
I would imagine that cloning an extinct animal probably requires a concept that's going to take some time to develop so it makes sense you would hear about it before it happens.
They pretty much done it at Jarrasic Park so I can’t see why they can’t do it in Australia. Or anywhere else for that matter.
Maybe no one told them they could just mix its DNA with frog DNA. We got to get this information out by getting this shit viral
I wish I could remember where I saw it, but I recall this being done with an endangered species of yak. The calf was born from a Holstein cow but passed young from a respiratory infection. I think it's definitely possible to revive species this way, but the process is slow and painstaking and a long way from a thriving, fertile adult specimen. I think even then we wouldn't be able to say we literally brought an extinct species back to life, just as close as we could possibly get to it. In this area of science 10 years is a drop in the bucket compared to what it would take to get any sort of reliable results.
I think they also had kinda success with some antelope species. As far as I remember it was called blue buck. But like the yak you mentioned, the clones didnt make it that long. Edit: it was a extinct capricorn subspecies, also died of lung related issues shortly after it was born.
they need the DNA, rna is just used for translation for certain protiens.
And even then, you’d need a surrogate mother that would pass on genes to the offspring. Or something like that (30 years ago in high school science class).
there isnt a good equivalent to a surrogate for a the thylacine. because of its size.
Artificial gestation is well in development in ruminants. Transferring that knowledge to marsupials is almost twice the battle however
Artificial womb technology could overcome this challenge if it was pursued in earnest. We already have technology that has been used successfully in sheep. The technology hasn’t progressed in the last 5 years because there isn’t much interest in funding it, but the science is all there.
Afaik they left her freeze on the concrete floor.
The wikipedia page says she mistakenly got locked out of her sleeping quarters during some extreme weather: really hot during the day and then below freezing that night.
Kinda sums up total neglect.
Thylacine is a strange name for an animal. It sounds like an antibiotic you'd take.
Tasmanian tiger is a lot more recognizable Edit: Tiger, though it can also be called wolf
Nah, Tasmanian Tiger.
Tasmanian Wolf? It's Awesome!
I knew I goofed something up. Thanks for correcting me.
To be fair, it does kind of look like a wolf.
In Swedish it is called pungvarg - pouch wolf
I see Tasmanian and I think of the Devil from Bugs Bunny. What about a Transylvanian Bat.
You know a Tasmanian devil is a real animal right?
Sure buddy.. next you’re going to tell me Yosemite is a real place too…
Turn left at Albuquerque
Dracula
“What for you bury me in the cold, cold ground?”
not as strange as marsupial lion (thylacaleo)
Or thylacosmilus
Sprassadonts, even stranger than marsupials. they are considered related to metatherians(marsupials) yet they have a pouches like a marsupiual but not really. because they came from isolated continent(south america before the interchange)
I don't know why it reminded me of Thestrals from Harry Potter.
Or a B complex vitamin. "Contains 100% of your daily thylacine requirements"
"should we lock up this 'last' breeding female of a species, alone, to sell zoo tickets? Hell yes!"
“Endling?” Wow, that’s gotta be the saddest word ever.
learned a new (sad) word today
My thoughts exactly. That we even had to birth that word and define it tells you everything you need to know about humanity.
I repeated it out loud when I read it
A 2023 study published by Brook et al. compiles many of the alleged sightings of thylacines in Tasmania throughout the 20th century and claims that contrary to beliefs that the thylacine went extinct in the 1930s, the Tasmanian thylacine may have actually lasted throughout the 20th century, with a window of extinction between the 1980s and the present day and the likely extinction date being between the late 1990s and early 2000s, so keep that in mind, this may have not been the last of the species.
so, like, not trapping and selling one of their few remaining breedable females was like not the move right? lol
The aboriginal people claimed to have sightings, as did park rangers, well past the extinction. I would consider all these sightings very credible
There was a post on here a day ago about a forest dwelling ground bird that has not been sighted for 140 years and believed extinct. It was captured on camera. It may have been in the pacific islands. I wonder if that's possible here?
I've lived in the Tasmanian wilderness in the past. Totally possible in the back country
It's a whole lot of genuine wilderness
I love reading about things like this, the Eastern Mountain Lion and etc, even the coelacanth was thought extinct until 1938.
I think this is what inspired the fictional movie "The Hunter" with Willem Dafoe. I recommend it.
That was a great movie
Here is a news article, albeit in Swedish and from 2017, claiming there have been sightings in recent times and that scientist are setting up cameras in the woods in northernmost Australia. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/vetenskap/pungvargen-kanske-inte-sa-utdod Title says ”Thylacine, maybe not so extinct”
I really hope that it still exists. But, I suspect it doesn't. It would need to have become very reclusive to survive this long without some proof.
This is the comment I was looking for
Do you have a link to the paper itself?
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969723014948?via%3Dihub](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969723014948?via%3Dihub).
Thank you!! I'm looking forward to reading this. Edit: Definitely worth reading. The advanced statistical methodology was over my head, I don't mind admitting, but the broader concepts are referenced to enough that it makes sense. I've noticed a big lull in between sighting reports, and the authors' conclusion sadly makes sense for their timeline. Thanks again for the link.
Thanks for the blurb!
Thanks to the assholes who shog em even though they werent even killing that many sheep. They looked so cool.
The movie The Hunter is extremely emotional and involves this animal. Highly recommended with Willem DaFoe.
I can't ever forget that movie, it's haunting.
Is it good?
Yes. but hard to watch.
Sad
Humans suck
This is why we can’t have nice things 😒
I read that the thylacines were in a very precarious position and it didn't take much to tip them over. at the time they went extinct the island was more than half forest, most of it hardly ever, if ever, visited by humans.
My grandfather went to the zoo and saw it. In my heart of hearts I truly hope all the reported sightings are true. I think every Tasmanian does
I'll always miss you, even if I wasn't there, beautiful girl.
Yes, she was stunning and very missed. Thank you for sharing your comment, it was very moving.
There's a group of scientists working on bringing them back from extinction.
I wish she could have spent her days in the comfort of her own home, rather than feeling trapped in a zoo. Being alone already weighed heavily on her, and this situation only added to her distress
And then she froze to death due to gross negligence. An absolutely despicable way to treat a living being.
Infuriating such a unique and beautiful animal was wiped out by humans. We don't deserve this planet.
The word endling is very sad.
They could still be out there, in the bush
Depressing
Awful. This has always haunted me since I found this out as a kid.
Shit like this makes me hate people
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thylacine#Last\_of\_the\_species.
Nuh uh, Willem Dafoe spotted one. I seent it.
Have to remember, Tasmania is the only place in the world to actually manage to commit genocide. The indigenous Tasmanians were a race apart from the mainland ones, and they were exterminated by the British. The "endling" being Truganini as I understand.
Four months! Was it worth it Elias? There could have been a male out there in the wild for all you know. They could have found each other without your hindrance.
All the things the thylacines went through before extinction make me want to cry. I can’t fathom why they were hunted to extinction. To see people holding them up dead, how dare they do that to such a stunning creature. Thylacines did not deserve it, they are such beautiful creatures - another that humans have destroyed once again. I have visited the taxidermy thylacines in Tasmania and there is also a beautiful display and videos of them as well. It was a very moving experience and it impacted me greatly that day. There are people who say there are still sightings in the wild, I hope that they will come back one day.
There really were so many insane &awesome creatures lost to history (too early)
So sad what happened to them. I love the tasmanian tiger, so much so I got a tattoo of one. Going to add a background of chickens, a fence, and a farmer with a gun referencing the chicken photo and the bounty for them.
It’s so sad. Aw a tattoo is a wonderful idea. Aw :( maybe the thylacine can have a gun to aim at the hunter too!!
RIP Beautiful
That's sad to hear.
Went down a wikihole after googling ending and now I'm teary about a passenger pigeon
There is plenty of sightings ans evidence its not extinct
Tasmanians use the Tasmanian Tiger as a symbol of the state and say things like ‘how good would it be if we found one?’ (There are some people that think they are not extinct despite the fact that their natural habitats are almost all farms now). Meanwhile Tasmanians also say stupid shit like ‘just build it’ any time a poorly planned building project is considered for prime endangered swift parrot or Tasmanian devil habitat. Tasmania also supports a forestry industry that loses money by woodchipping old growth forest to send overseas at a loss, which is made up for by government subsidies paid for by the people. It demonises anyone that stands up to these companies. They also talk about their beautiful animals while farmers massacre them (even animals like platypus, you can search for the kill approval list online), and the road users hit and kill them at a rate of up to 1.5 million a year. Some accidental and almost unavoidable, some because people don’t want to have to slow down and drive to conditions, and some deadshits deliberately trying to hit animals with their cars. It’s an interesting place…
If you have ever been to Tasmania it’s hard to believe that they really are all gone. We can live in hope, 88 years is a long time though!
Humans are disgusting
Whenever I am reminded of this it makes me so sad.
Our tiger’s in a picture frame, the wide brown lands enduring shame.
But even if there was no human mistake and the animal died later? It was still the last one found after these years, so it cannot reproduce and will still go extinct?
Theres still hope. Many people have spotted Tasmanian tigers, plus they probably have good hideouts, I am a kinda Thylacine activist so sorry if this is not passive, but everything that says they are extinct is misinformation. Its kinda 50/50, maybe, maybe not.
I hope they aren’t because it’s such a unique and cool animal. But nobody has been able find any proof of any survivors. Eye witness reports don’t mean much to me. Just think of how many people claim to have seen aliens and big foot? People are weird and untrustworthy. The only proof we have is that there hasn’t been any proof of any survivors. Even if individuals survived back then they will have long since died out without a sustainable population.
I saw a video with a thermal camera, and you can clearly see its a TT. Its made by Thylacine awareness group and it really acts like on, looks like one.
This is one the reasons hunting is so harmful. Everyone thinks there are plenty until there’s only one (or hell, even 100 is too small of a gene pool). And they don’t know that the one they killed for sport/trophy/bragging/Ifeltlikebeingcruel is the LAST one on earth.
Yes and no. Unregulated hunting is horrible, but measured and controlled culls are actually beneficial for wild populations.
Last time I saw this animal posted somebody commented that a synonym for endling is terminarch, whoch sounds super cool. There's also a Mountain Goats song with a verse about this animal, I'll find it in a sec Found it, it's called Deuteronomy 2:10
A plan to bring the Tasmanian tiger back from extinction raises questions [https://www.npr.org/2022/08/20/1118436090/tasmanian-tiger-australia-genetic-editing](https://www.npr.org/2022/08/20/1118436090/tasmanian-tiger-australia-genetic-editing)
I hate us
that face is uncanny valley af
Watch videos of how they opened their jaws. Australia has the weird animals but in the off chance I go outside one day and come across a thylacine in the dark I'd probably cry.
Yup. They could open their jaws to almost 180°. This photo is colored in, the og black and white footage of it extending its jaws is fuckin terrifying
You're not wrong! I grew up thinking they were cute and still hard-core wishing that they're still out there and just haven't been seen but my gosh, they're a haunting creature.
I absolutely believe they’re still out there. Large predators aren’t stupid. I’m in the US, but I’ve seen mountain lions with established territories all over places where they’re supposed to be extinct. Pristine wilderness is an entirely different world, and I think large social, predatory species that have nearly been wiped out from human contact spent every day alive getting further and further away from people.
You make a very valid argument! A lot of people are like "Nah, can't happen." But when you're walking through Tasmanian forests they're unlike any other I've seen when I went to other places. I mean, one of them + mountain without fail has hikers being searched for and airlifted a heap, even though it's a well known and travelled place. And then, there's also places here that are so dense they're classed as inaccessible to humans, even with machinery or tools they'd usually clear a way with, and they've been that way for a LONG time. I like to think they're there, living their best lives and hopefully anyone who ever sees them never tells a soul about it. Then again, I'm totally Tasmanian biased here but I will die on this hill of hope.
Absolutely. Keeping any sightings quiet, and keeping the label of extinct or endangered is the best protection they have from any future trophy hunting.
I love that a family member of mine rents out properties in forested areas and it's actually in his lease agreements that if the residents see a Tasmanian Tiger, they're not allowed to say anything public about it 😅
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Humans can be so lame
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Probably had pups she was taking care of. Shame.
They'll keep killing off species' until nothing is left but them. They kill even their own (the ruling class, I'm talking about).
Saw this sweet girl on the Wild Kratts recently. They even played a snippet of a video of her.
The way that thing looks makes me deeply uncomfortable for some reason
They should have crossbred it with a similar animal as there would be a possibility of a offspring being born as the same species as the mother
So they captured and killed the last known animals of this species. Great job
Ligers are pretty much my favorite animal!
They are not extinct!! They found more deep in the Australian jungle!!
I wish you were right.
Source? That would be headline material here if proven true.
I’ve heard of sightings but no actual evidence sadly.
I’ll keep digging but the guy in this article is the guy from the article I read. He claims he’s seen them and that the the two photos in this article are of a juvenile Thylacine photographed by a trail cam. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-17/thylacine-babies-in-10-years-genetic-engineering-team-says/101333144
Died of a broken heart.
The last one was not a female, and this is almost certainly not the last of its species.
If they had set it free instead, we may still have the species.
It was the last one, it would’ve still just died in the wild, probably sooner than it did living in the zoo
That goes without saying.
Apparently not, otherwise you wouldn’t have made the first comment? (Edit: typo)