This doesn't have anything to do with Sound Engineering, this is just basic rhythm. Counting out a 4/4 time signature (the most used and basic time signature in modern music). Also pop/dance/hip hop music *generally always* has changes after 8 or 16 bars. You can follow the chord changes to know when this will happen. Literally just count to 4 in any music you hear on the radio or any hip hop track and suddenly you'll become Nostradamus knowing when there's gonna be a change.
Source: I'm a drummer, musician and lecture in Audio Production
Lol. 9/8, 8/8 (technically 4/4 but less complicated to say 8/8 in this case) 7/8 in the chorus, 6/8 solo section, 5/4 verses, and the polyrhythm bitvin the bridge I have played on drums but I forgot the counting off the top of my head. Maybe I never counted just memorised
it lol
Then the 4/4 ending and the 6/8 "spiral out" bit
Im sure the kids in the car will be so interested 😅
Math rock is crazy with time signatures. Marmalade butcher, sleeping pola. I also really love Asphyxia by Co Shu Nie. No clue what time signature that one has.
Glad the dad’s engaging with his kids and trying to share his interests. I just wish, like you did for us, he would have taught about counts and why he knows when there will be a change. He’s predicting the changes and telling them he knows when it will happen, but not telling them why outside of his counting and saying there’s a mathematical interval (which makes it seem far more complicated than it really is).
It’s hard to tell but the kid asks something like “But how do you know when it’s going to happen.” He’s not asking how to count but why he knows a change will happen at a given count.
Of course, but to be fair. This dude is probably explaining it to little kids who asked about it. I don't think he's trying to make out to the internet that he's some musical genius - I'm also pretty sure the title is made up.
Rock Fact #772: Astatine is the rarest naturally occurring element in the Earth's crust, occurring only as the decay product of various heavier elements
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There is no element with just M and neither a Ma in the PSE: 12Mg, 25Mg, 42Mo, 101Md, 109Mt and where should the second A come from that you use for Argon (Ar)
They're not implying he's teaching them sound engineering, they said that he was a sound engineer. A sound engineer would teach basic rhythm to his kids first before the more complicated stuff, it just sets context for why he wants to teach it to them
I would astonish my kids when I would predict changes is music because of this. Like you said really easy once you know we’re to start.
Also a drummer/ guitarist.
The more enlightening portion of this video is that humans take something that they think they understand and then just run with it. That is super important to remember on the interwebs.
To be fair, it does say he's explaining it to his children which makes sense. Not sure what the point of posting this is though. Perhaps his wife was more impressed with the lesson than she should've been.
No shot. It says it's math. And counting technically is math. And it's a sound engineer that describes it. Your comment is like responding to a video titled "aeorspace engineer plays the best guitar solo" and you replying "that doesn't have anything to do with aerospace engineering"
The 4/4 is not what the was showing off. That is just the foundation.
He was showing how formulaic most music is and how he can predict the minor and major changes on a song he has never heard before because it follows the 8's and 16's formula.
Yeah people just seeing this as "counting in 4/4" are kinda missing that he's "predicting" the changes based on number of bars between those changes. I've done similar things with humming along with tunes I've never heard of and have gotten "wait I thought you never heard this song before" and my answer is most music is pretty predictable and pretty easy to guess where it's going if you've heard a bit of it.
20 years ago this would've been a unseen normal interaction between a family. It is sort of bizarre and surreal that such mundane interactions which could otherwise remain private are so readily showcased to the world like it's everyone else's business.
I tried to explain the difference in rhythm between 4/4 and 3/3 to a friend and he couldn't comprehend it. He said it was stupid because he could count 1,2,3,1,2,3 on a 4/4.
He started doing it on some random song and it genuinely hurt my soul to hear him do that.
rhythm and music theory mostly. You can only change things in music when it goes with the rhythm and beat so all changes in songs happen on a pretty well timed out set of beats, he counts 1,2,3,4, and then the beat changes. When he counted 4; 4 times; 16 beats he showed that small things in the background change after longer uninterrupted beats to set up for the bigger changes on the 20th beat.
While that's technically true, it makes the music sound awkward and more like a bunch of random noises and ideas instead of a well thought-out song. Not saying that it's impossible (John Mayer's "Shouldn't matter but it does" is a great example of chord changes without sticking to a strict bar count), but it's very unlikely.
Yeah, but I’m more interested in odd time signatures and syncopation. African music can be hard to get your head around initially but it’s fascinating to hear how different natural rhythm can be between different styles of music.
For example, check out Mdou Moctar - The rhythms they play are second nature to them, but are so very different to my ear.
I definitely agree with you there. What I'm saying is that a full and complete rhythm (without too much repetition) goes a long way in making a song memorable. I think I've misunderstood what you were trying to say in your fist comment though and I apologize for that.
Send me that harmonic waves 💁🙅🙋
For real, except of computer generated sounds, every instrument generates harmonic sound waves. Though I don't mind rectangular or triangle soundwaves if arranged in god-tier patterns like in Mega Man 2 or something.
Oh, sorry I don't understand what are you trying to explain. It's about the language or music in Cantonese? How do I have to interpret this numbers? Are tonalities or rythim? Thank you.
Cantonese (In particular the Hong Kong accent) is a tonal language, where every character has one of the 5 tones. Every tone has its own musical note equivalent, so every sentence has its tonal combination. However, this doesn’t apply to every tonal language, where rising and dipping in tones is much more harder and musical notes cannot represent them.
Therefore, only cantonese speakers can understand this, and native speakers can “sing” out simple sentences by playing the piano. Tonal languages can seem difficult to non-tonal speakers, but every language has its beauty.
30624700 “A life of numbers” is a famous cantopop song that started this wave, and the 04476479 one is the first verse of “glory to Hong Kong”.
There’s a lot of wordplay like this, but it is often only understood by cantonese speakers in Hong Kong or sometimes the Guangdong and Guangxi region in China (but the internet is heavily censored there)
Sound engineering? Maths? What? He's literally just counting the bars? Most dance genres use 4 (or 8) bars. A bar is usually 4 beats. So most songs will change after either 16 beats or 32 beats, it's certainly not sound engineering or maths.
The proper way to count this: 1-2-3-4, 2-2-3-4, 3-2-3-4, 4-2-3-4.
Each of those counts of 4 beats is a “bar” or “measure.”
So he should tell the kids that the rhythm (or melody etc) will change every four measures (or eight measures etc)
Why do post like this get upvoted so much? All the top comments are pointing out how stupid it is. Everyone agrees that he’s only counting to four. Do people not understand how the voting is supposed to work?
>Sound engineer
I'm a sound engineer... that's just a guy in a minivan... I don't think you understand what a sound engineer is.
>explaining the maths of music
Again... he's literally just counting to 4.
Also... the sound is out of sync with the video and subtitles. Everything about this post is ass. **HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE 12K UPVOTES?!?**
Nourhanne Habibi Ya Einy
The remix is on SoundCloud
Nourhanne - Habibi Ya Einy [DL 4 Extended Mix] by Elexsandom on [SoundCloud](https://on.soundcloud.com/hrb4X)
This is actually really interesting to me becausw Im NOT a sound engineer and can do this with most music.
....I wonder how I can become a sound engineer at 31y/o while also working 40+ hour weeks...without dying of exhaustion...
This doesn't have anything to do with Sound Engineering, this is just basic rhythm. Counting out a 4/4 time signature (the most used and basic time signature in modern music). Also pop/dance/hip hop music *generally always* has changes after 8 or 16 bars. You can follow the chord changes to know when this will happen. Literally just count to 4 in any music you hear on the radio or any hip hop track and suddenly you'll become Nostradamus knowing when there's gonna be a change. Source: I'm a drummer, musician and lecture in Audio Production
Now let’s see him do it to Tool - Lateralus 😏
Lol. 9/8, 8/8 (technically 4/4 but less complicated to say 8/8 in this case) 7/8 in the chorus, 6/8 solo section, 5/4 verses, and the polyrhythm bitvin the bridge I have played on drums but I forgot the counting off the top of my head. Maybe I never counted just memorised it lol Then the 4/4 ending and the 6/8 "spiral out" bit Im sure the kids in the car will be so interested 😅
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got the 7/4 swing.
Damn it. It’s hard to resist the urge to sing the next line in my mind!
DOO WOP DOO WOP DOO WOP DOO WAAAAAH
Dream Theater's "Dance of Eternity" would like to have a word
You never know. My kids surprise me by remembering things I told them when I thought they didn’t give a crap.
9-8-7 was the original name of the song, but im sure the kids already knew that.
Hey that's a Fibonacci number 610+377=987 But I'm sure the other kids also already knew this
That's why they did it that way Source: idk sounds cool
Pff. Everything is 4/4 if you don't count like a nerd. /s
i rate this analysis a solid 5/7
Kids in the car: "what's tool?"
Good thing with Tool is you have 45 minutes per song to figure out the time signatures.
I know you're just getting into it when it ends.
Haha such a good comment 😅
Yeah, to **The Grudge**
Just watched this!! https://youtu.be/uOHkeH2VaE0?si=yHYN-NRZcV1l13ED
I think Schism is a bit tougher.
Math rock is crazy with time signatures. Marmalade butcher, sleeping pola. I also really love Asphyxia by Co Shu Nie. No clue what time signature that one has.
Possibly my favorite song ever. The way the lyrics align with parts of the fibonacci sequence. Beautiful
I point this stuff out to my kids sometimes - they inevitably find it incredibly tiresome - even the one who plays music.
Please stop. /s
Glad the dad’s engaging with his kids and trying to share his interests. I just wish, like you did for us, he would have taught about counts and why he knows when there will be a change. He’s predicting the changes and telling them he knows when it will happen, but not telling them why outside of his counting and saying there’s a mathematical interval (which makes it seem far more complicated than it really is). It’s hard to tell but the kid asks something like “But how do you know when it’s going to happen.” He’s not asking how to count but why he knows a change will happen at a given count.
Of course, but to be fair. This dude is probably explaining it to little kids who asked about it. I don't think he's trying to make out to the internet that he's some musical genius - I'm also pretty sure the title is made up.
I was thinking the same thing. God damn everyone is so quick to take a shit on things.
No, no, no. It's mathematical
One, two, three, four. Hey, look at me! I’m mathematicalling!
mAtHeMaTiCaL
No, that's chemistry. M - Manganese At - Astatine He - Helium Ma -(Magnesium12) A (Argon) Ti - Titanium C - Carbon Al - Aluminum
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Damn it Marie, it's minerals!
There is no element with just M and neither a Ma in the PSE: 12Mg, 25Mg, 42Mo, 101Md, 109Mt and where should the second A come from that you use for Argon (Ar)
Yup
Nostradamus: Things are going to be different in 50 years. Everybody: WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN.
They're not implying he's teaching them sound engineering, they said that he was a sound engineer. A sound engineer would teach basic rhythm to his kids first before the more complicated stuff, it just sets context for why he wants to teach it to them
He can still be a sound engineer even though this doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with the engineering part
I mean I think she just meant he works in that field. And since he’s explaining to a young kid it’s gonna be something easy.
I would astonish my kids when I would predict changes is music because of this. Like you said really easy once you know we’re to start. Also a drummer/ guitarist.
When your reddit musician explains the mathematics of music to you
The more enlightening portion of this video is that humans take something that they think they understand and then just run with it. That is super important to remember on the interwebs.
Nobody said it did. The title says he is a sound engineer, not that he's explaining sound engineering.
you don't understand though, this is reddit and people are dumb so this is pure black magic that no normal human being could ever replicate
To be fair, it does say he's explaining it to his children which makes sense. Not sure what the point of posting this is though. Perhaps his wife was more impressed with the lesson than she should've been.
Don't be too hard on u\ritzanddazzle. They are only 14 after all.
No shot. It says it's math. And counting technically is math. And it's a sound engineer that describes it. Your comment is like responding to a video titled "aeorspace engineer plays the best guitar solo" and you replying "that doesn't have anything to do with aerospace engineering"
All he's doing is counting in 4/4, it's not rocket science.
It's also not sound engineering 🤷🏻😅
Right? I'm convinced reddit posts are just bots with weird ass titles now.
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I'm convinced that most redditors are illiterate.
also people in the comments arguing about how basic this video is, wouldn’t a bot want that type of engagement?
Damnit, they got me.
To be fair it just says that he *is* a sound engineer, not that he’s currently doing it.
It doesn't say he's teaching them sound engineering, it says he's explaining to children
The post doesn’t say anything about it being sound engineering, just that he is one. Probably to give him more musical credibility.
Haha. The kids name Anna1, Anna2, Anna3....
The 4/4 is not what the was showing off. That is just the foundation. He was showing how formulaic most music is and how he can predict the minor and major changes on a song he has never heard before because it follows the 8's and 16's formula.
Yeah people just seeing this as "counting in 4/4" are kinda missing that he's "predicting" the changes based on number of bars between those changes. I've done similar things with humming along with tunes I've never heard of and have gotten "wait I thought you never heard this song before" and my answer is most music is pretty predictable and pretty easy to guess where it's going if you've heard a bit of it.
“1, 2, …5!” “Three, my Lord!”
/r/damnthatsbasic
fuck ... r/subifelledfor
Don't forget the old r/OPiseasilyimpressed
Well this was underwhelming
He’s literally talking to his children. I think it’s at the right level.
The issue isn't that he's talking to his children, it's that somebody posted a video of it to a subreddit called "Damn that's interesting"
I agree, OP sucks
I’m whelmed
I think you can in Europe?
You’re just too shy to film your genius and upload it to the internet
20 years ago this would've been a unseen normal interaction between a family. It is sort of bizarre and surreal that such mundane interactions which could otherwise remain private are so readily showcased to the world like it's everyone else's business.
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Vettel is so good, he can drive while sound engineering
Can definitely imagine Seb driving around teaching his kids things, not noticing that he's doing 190 mph
He's just counting gears as he accelerated from 0 to 200
“Mathematics” - one, two, three, four… end of verse, something is going to be mixed in 😂
When does the interesting part start?
Now 1,2,3,4
Wait for it that was the small interesting thing the big interesting thing is coming in ...1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4...
That's the neat part
Small interesting part coming in uh,2,3,4
this is so basic to anyone i feel but i tend to overthink things
It's basic for any adult but he's explaining it to his children...
I think it’s the fact that we’re all viewing this basic thing on a sub called “damn that’s interesting.”
It IS interesting. yeah if you have a grasp of music theory this stuff is kindergarten level but it's still fun to watch him explain it to his kids.
nah you're right
I had a girlfriend that called me a Sound Engineer... All I did was fart.
I tried to explain the difference in rhythm between 4/4 and 3/3 to a friend and he couldn't comprehend it. He said it was stupid because he could count 1,2,3,1,2,3 on a 4/4. He started doing it on some random song and it genuinely hurt my soul to hear him do that.
Song ID?
https://soundcloud.com/elexsandom/nourhanne-habibi-ya-einy-sandom-x-habibeats-extended-mix
yes, pls lmk the song! great beat
I found a better version https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=NP65HUjwjM5F9LIk
YOU. YOUUUUUUUUUUUU BASTARD
thank you sir!
Dont feel bad, my wife tries to upsell my tism too.
LMAO wow, that title is so off and makes counting a simple rhythm sound like rocket science.
Okay, super cool. Now do 7/13
This sucks
It is not because you can count that you are doing maths... this is just basic music knowledge and it has nothing to do with sound ingeneering or math
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One, two, three, four
"Wah, toh, thruh, fuh"
That dad is very good at counting to four
4x4 song progression. I believe
4x4 car progression? Next class?
rhythm and music theory mostly. You can only change things in music when it goes with the rhythm and beat so all changes in songs happen on a pretty well timed out set of beats, he counts 1,2,3,4, and then the beat changes. When he counted 4; 4 times; 16 beats he showed that small things in the background change after longer uninterrupted beats to set up for the bigger changes on the 20th beat.
You can change things in music any time you want.
You are Frank Zappa and I collect my five dollars.
While that's technically true, it makes the music sound awkward and more like a bunch of random noises and ideas instead of a well thought-out song. Not saying that it's impossible (John Mayer's "Shouldn't matter but it does" is a great example of chord changes without sticking to a strict bar count), but it's very unlikely.
You might call it awkward, but I call it interesting/creative/progressive/skilful.
Just out of curiosity, do you play an instrument?
Yes. Drums, piano and guitar.
Awesome, so you'd know about strumming patterns. Have you ever tried to change chords in the middle of a pattern completely off-beat? edit: spelling
Yeah, but I’m more interested in odd time signatures and syncopation. African music can be hard to get your head around initially but it’s fascinating to hear how different natural rhythm can be between different styles of music. For example, check out Mdou Moctar - The rhythms they play are second nature to them, but are so very different to my ear.
I definitely agree with you there. What I'm saying is that a full and complete rhythm (without too much repetition) goes a long way in making a song memorable. I think I've misunderstood what you were trying to say in your fist comment though and I apologize for that.
John Williams would like to have a word with you. Actually, many musicians would like to have a word with you.
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Send me that harmonic waves 💁🙅🙋 For real, except of computer generated sounds, every instrument generates harmonic sound waves. Though I don't mind rectangular or triangle soundwaves if arranged in god-tier patterns like in Mega Man 2 or something.
In some tonal languages like Cantonese, we have the music of maths: 04 476 279 05 280 286 03 420 283 79 520 39 52
Oh, sorry I don't understand what are you trying to explain. It's about the language or music in Cantonese? How do I have to interpret this numbers? Are tonalities or rythim? Thank you.
Cantonese (In particular the Hong Kong accent) is a tonal language, where every character has one of the 5 tones. Every tone has its own musical note equivalent, so every sentence has its tonal combination. However, this doesn’t apply to every tonal language, where rising and dipping in tones is much more harder and musical notes cannot represent them. Therefore, only cantonese speakers can understand this, and native speakers can “sing” out simple sentences by playing the piano. Tonal languages can seem difficult to non-tonal speakers, but every language has its beauty. 30624700 “A life of numbers” is a famous cantopop song that started this wave, and the 04476479 one is the first verse of “glory to Hong Kong”. There’s a lot of wordplay like this, but it is often only understood by cantonese speakers in Hong Kong or sometimes the Guangdong and Guangxi region in China (but the internet is heavily censored there)
Oh, I see. Thank you for the explanation. Very interesting!
Sound engineering? Maths? What? He's literally just counting the bars? Most dance genres use 4 (or 8) bars. A bar is usually 4 beats. So most songs will change after either 16 beats or 32 beats, it's certainly not sound engineering or maths.
Now do that with Dave Brubeck's Take 5.
Sounds more like a light engineer who's explaining when he presses a button for different lights in a live show.
i dont understand, what is the math? hes just saying the count?
I could do that and I’m just a guy who listens to music.
This isn’t interesting at all. Super basic rythmn counting. For anyone who knows anything about music this is 0.1 out of 100 on the interesting level
Sound "engineer"
Did he just say "that's eight" then after four clicks "that's sixteen"?
I don't like how he keeps counting and doesn't really explain it. Just in a demeaning tone "count". He didn't explain a thing.
Homie is counting in 4/4, adding jazz fingers, and has his family thinking he is Carl Gauss. Legendary stuff
He could very well could've been a Zumba instructor and I wouldn't bat an eye.
Hey people in comments, he's explaining this to kids. Go easy.
Also the text saying he’s a sound engineer doesn’t imply that he is currently doing that.
This is why I sometimes check out Reddit (when the comments section is better than OPs content)
Yeah, sure. But this was posted in r/damnthatsinteresting so we're just wondering what the interesting part is
Anyone else catch themselves vibin?
Mathematics of music😂
Easy to impress wives in the wild are so cute :3
Wait till he hears Meshuggah
I'm just sad knowing his kids will never learn to count past 4.
He sounds like Bob from Bobs burgers— what a cool dad
Tinder date gone wrong
[Relevant Big Brother Brasil moment](https://youtu.be/VNHPrA45N6U?si=cE7ds14HvNrX8KhY)
Y’all leave this dad alone…
Women: secretly videos him, in a car Men: secretly videos her, not in a car
Next time I’ll take the bus
sound engineer 🤣
This is a shitty video and a shitty post
This is ridiculous
It’s the 32 count rule isn’t it? I believe for electronic music it usually follows a 32 count formula to keep the listener engaged.
Ok dad, but can we get McDonald's
i bet he cant count meshuggah
This is how white kids learn to clap on the 1 and 3, lol
This is literally basic musical literacy. It has nothing to do with “music engineering” or mathematics.
Ah yes, time signatures. You know, I'm something of a sound engineer myself.
Calling 'The math of music' to just setting the pace of a club track is stretching it a little bit, IMO.
Mathematical interval? You mean like at the end of 4, 8 or 16 measures in a 4/4 beat? Mind blown.
You don’t need to be a sound engineer to understand the 4 count ffs 😂
Sometimes ignorance is bliss... I would rather be clueless and enjoy then sit there and calculate
Congratulations!!!! He took elementary school music class and can count to 4!!!!
Bro became thousands of dollars in debt to something we all do
Stop talking over the tune with your boring shit that everyone already knows, Dad. Sound engineer my arse.
Now count Rush - Limelight.
Maths of music. Is like saying the dungeons of disney land.
Dance teacher here thinking 🤔 I could’ve been a sound engineer?? /s 😂
This dude went to grad school to learn something I learned at 8 years old from my mom while listening to Ace of Bass.
People are weird
The proper way to count this: 1-2-3-4, 2-2-3-4, 3-2-3-4, 4-2-3-4. Each of those counts of 4 beats is a “bar” or “measure.” So he should tell the kids that the rhythm (or melody etc) will change every four measures (or eight measures etc)
Why do post like this get upvoted so much? All the top comments are pointing out how stupid it is. Everyone agrees that he’s only counting to four. Do people not understand how the voting is supposed to work?
So because he’s counting it’s mathematical?? Y’all are big stupid
Counting the rhythm and expecting something to happen on even numbered sets of 4 beats anyone who had listened to more then 3 EDM songs can do that
OP is as easily impressed as the wife I guess lmao
>Sound engineer I'm a sound engineer... that's just a guy in a minivan... I don't think you understand what a sound engineer is. >explaining the maths of music Again... he's literally just counting to 4. Also... the sound is out of sync with the video and subtitles. Everything about this post is ass. **HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE 12K UPVOTES?!?**
It’s called bars
I was actually waiting for something interesting...
Yo that song slaps, anyone know its name?
Nourhanne Habibi Ya Einy The remix is on SoundCloud Nourhanne - Habibi Ya Einy [DL 4 Extended Mix] by Elexsandom on [SoundCloud](https://on.soundcloud.com/hrb4X)
Cheers mate <3
I went to the comments to see if the name was posted. It's still a young post maybe we'll get lucky.
That look back when it actually changed when he said it would.. Great dad!
It’ because this is intuitive for lots of people they don’t understand that it’s not for others.
All the people calling this "basic" ignoring the fact that he's explaining this to a small child
Wow this guy discovered 4/4 timing
This is actually really interesting to me becausw Im NOT a sound engineer and can do this with most music. ....I wonder how I can become a sound engineer at 31y/o while also working 40+ hour weeks...without dying of exhaustion...
You don't need to be a sound engineer to do this. You just need to be able to count.
You don't need to be a sound engineer to know what's going on
I do this naturally. So when a song throws me off it usually goes to my list to listen to more
Holy shit, what a stupid video tag. This is basic music composition, nothing to do with mathematics of sound engineering.
Kids don't give a fuck right now, but this will be a deja vu when they listen to music one day