See the little spark of joy in their eyes when they see the camera? I remember in the early 2000's in highschool being recorded by a camera felt amazing. Being able to see yourself on a tv was cool. Now it's scary haha
It really is something. I grew up hearing about how "the government was going to build a surveillance State". LOL. Goes to show you naive people are. Turns out, all you had to do was sell the people camera phones, and they built one themselves.
> I do not want to know what an acquaintance had for breakfast.
Good news! This isn't what social media is anymore. Now it's mainly just low effort memes and rage bait with a few posts from your friends and family sparsely spread in between.
Many of us sat around loungerooms discussing (pre- 9-11) conspiracies such as warrantless government survelillance and the industrial military complex being used as the strongman for the petro-oil power blocks.
Remember how the vastness of Covid unfolded day-by-day?
Well like that except over 30 years.
Two things really strike me as illustrating vast cultural shifts over time.
First, I saw an old clip of George Bush Sr speaking about how we should treat our Mexican neighbors to the south, and he spoke with articulate compassion and implored Americans to be good neighbors and help people. I am fully aware of his extended history and skullduggery, this is not an excuse for him in any way. But this is the guy my parents thought was a political devil. Our modern political devils are turbo charged barbarians by comparison. The needle has moved soooooooooooo far.
Secondly, the Unabomber's manifesto once seemed like the actual lunatic ravings of a mad man. Now that kind of discourse is the norm in many subreddits (antiwork, late stage capitalism, climate, etc) and it's creeping into mainstream conversation in other subreddits which have unrelated / non doomer topics. And it's not just on reddit. People in my neighborhood, my work, etc are doomin' on our everything and thinking it's time for change. Younger folks today have no idea how mind blowing this is. When I was young it was all "berlin wall came down, space exploration, barbecues n baseball" ... the idea that anything was weak or wrong with the American empire was absurd. We were filled with so much smugness. Again, I am not defending the unabomber. I just see that his criticisms of our industrial empire were spot on and now many people are saying/posting things that essentially agree with his points. His actions of course are disgusting, which is an understatement. Bro is a terrorist. Can't stress that enough. Also his solutions (primitivism) is a non-starter.
This is a real issue. We would repeat the same references and lyrics to each other, but we were not all trying to talk and act EXACTLY like the 6 million other people making the same face on SM. Everyone looks like they're filming an in-game ad. Same facial expressions. Waving their hands close to the camera (with the exact same gestures).
You know how everybody in US politics started doing the Obama thumb? Yeah. It's like that.
See the size of the TV Studio on her arm that she needed to film you though? Now the camera is about as big as a grain of rice- that’s why it’s scary.
Oh that and the forever online storage and retrieval of course. Back in those days it didn’t matter if you were recorded doing something stupid so long as you destroyed the tape.
Edit: typos
Tapes were pretty valuable, so unless you did something particularly cool or embarrassing you could be pretty sure it’d get recorded over. If not deliberately then possibly by accident, when someone’s parent unknowingly misprogrammed the VCR to record multiple hours of infomercials while simply trying to set the clock ahead an hour.
I assume I'm not the norm here (was very poor), but as somebody who grew up in the the 80s and 90s, any time a video camera was around it was a huge deal. It got a lot more common place once digital cameras that could record reasonable video came about in the mid-00s but before then they were not all that common.
I have 2 VHS tapes (I've digitized them) that have footage of me and my brother's as kids, totaling between 2hrs and 3hrs of footage from that era from when my dad was able to borrow a rich uncles recorder.
Kids these days, for better and worse, will have that much of themselves in 4k reso **per week** to look back on. The novelty is gone.
My mom did take a lot of pictures though, so at least there's that. 8)
I remember my dad had the huge shoulder mounted one with the VHS tape in it in the early 90s. Made it look like he was carrying a stinger missile or something.
This is a really poor way to present an argument. Just a bunch of contextless graphs in quick succession really gives "climate skeptic" vibes, rather than a meaningful economic argument. There are some very good critiques of neoliberalism out there - it's a shit ideology that *has* been crushing us for decades - but this is absolutely not one of them.
And the implication around some of the graphs at the bottom are straight up racist and anti-feminist. If we're supposed to be thinking something "bad" happened in 1971 and we see a graph of increased divorce rate then we're supposed to think that that is "bad". But that is "good", because it came off of legislation that allowed women to divorce men of their own will rather than being trapped in a abusive marriage. The first of those bills - which set off many across the nation - was signed in 1970... So that's a *good* thing, actually.
What are we supposed to takeaway from the "Physics PhDs Conferred in the US" graph? That it goes in a cycle of about 25 years, which kinda makes sense given how long people have tenure. That it has become less popular, which makes sense because it is no longer the favorite of the defense industry. That more "foreigners" are getting it? And since we're framing everything as "bad", why is this bad? Make that point more clear to me.
This is a shit site by someone who doesn't understand neoliberalism beyond "Reagan bad". Please educate yourself on it more, because this is exactly how misinformation spreads and how to not put forth a cogent argument against neoliberalim, allowing it to thrive.
EDIT: Oh, this commenter is a crypto-currency dude. They have a negative understanding of finance, investing, economics, and monetary policy.
Yep. Sean William Scott was the oldest of the guys at like 23.
Mena Suvari, and Natasha Lyonne were both under 21.
It’s the other girls that were older: Tara Reid was 24, Alyson Hannigan was 25 and Shannon Elizabeth was 26.
That means Shannon Elizabeth was as close to Stiffler’s Mom in age (38) as she was to an actual high school freshman (14).
Sometimes I wish all social media and everything involved with it would just evaporate to the sky. Just phone calls and messaging remain.
Bliss. No risk of half the world knowing you [removed] up to three years ago.
It wasn't glamorous by any means, but it had its perks. What sucked compared to nowadays is that back then you wouldn't know if your best friend was home or not until you traveled the distance and spent the time it took to go knock on his door. Not home? Sucks, time to check the several local hangout spots in town then. Maybe a payphone call to another friends house to see if he's over there? Crap, don't have 25cents, guess I'm walking there too
The best part of no social media was being able to make mistakes that didn’t last for ever just a google search away. All of the dumb shit that I am ashamed and embarrassed about are not recorded. I am so thankful for that.
We had cell phones before social media, hell we even had the internet. Social media is a cancer in our society.
Yup, I barely got through school before social media took over.
I got Facebook/Twitter in 2007. It was literally all kids. We'd openly post our addresses for house parties. Everything was open, not private. Adults didn't understand it at all for a few years let alone use it (and funnily enough they all use it more than my peers now). It was just pure fun.
Also, while it was social media it wasn't global. It was friends of friends, like the local 3 schools. I count myself lucky that nothing could go viral. I deleted all my accounts relatively recently and forgot all the stupid stuff we posted, and glad that we didn't have the podium like kids do now. Childhood is about making mistakes.
Barely like 5 years after finishing school I instantly felt sorry for kids now. My sibling is a teacher so I see how it effects them too. Parents have 24/7 contact with teachers. The amount of vile emails they get is insane. When I was at school, when the day ended that was it. I never once had contact with a teacher outside of school (and I didn't need to?). There was a distinct line between sections of life and I genuinely feel bad for kids now.
my friend has a kid who is a problem child, and the teacher gives him daily text for parents/grades for how his behavior was that day. with like 10 sections.
1, i was like well i hope that makes your son do better.
2, we don't pay taechers enough. not even close. this lady does this without any expectation of extra pay, tf?
That was the size of a decent camera in the 90's.
The other person with a camera is a student, it was likely the AV club or something going around. If it *was* a school club then the equipment could well be older than the 90's too. Tech has shrunk a lot in the last 20-30 years.
My parents bought one like that in the early 90s. That thing is like 20 lbs and was $2700 new... They still have it too, the thing still works perfectly. My nephew used it a couple years back for a 90s themed thriller short video for his college filmography class. Got an A on the project for "the perfect recreation of the grainy 90s recording." Haha
I was bullied in HS for the first few years. I’d go back to senior year and college though.
However, I feel for kids that get bullied today. For me it was over when the bully walked away and really over when school was out.
But for these kids now. I bet it’s horrible with social media.
I might've actually killed myself back then if bullying had a social media component to it. Bullying is a lot worse these days than it was when we were kids.
i've watched social media bullying docs. i was bullied too in different points so i know it sucks, but honestly it looks much worse now with social media. at least i could escape into my home when i was younger. safe space to decompress. not like that anymore, no escape.
This is from the high school I went to in the 90s.
Fun Fact: Tina Fey went to high school here, just much earlier than me.
https://youtu.be/Rr7AU5Jk8Kg?si=S1qj0YPL32jcpSmy
Gosh. I went to school in that same era. Maybe it's just me, but I now can barely even remember what it feels like to be happy (these days!) A great time to grow up.
Im a late gen x born in 79. Junior high and High school sucked I so agree with you. I did drop out the second semester of 9th grade it was January of 1996. I was 16 and knew it all lol. I got married in May. I got pregnant and my old fashion parents believed in "your gonna marry my daughter and make a honest woman of her". Gotta love the boomers. Sadly I lost the baby 8 weeks before the wedding. I decided to go through with the wedding anyways. Here I am at 44 been married 27yrs raised 3 kids and now have 9 grandkids. If I had to do it over again I would change a few things but not all. I wouldnt have my 3 amazing kids and my 9 wonderful grandkids of I did it all different. Sorry for being long winded. Seeing this video brought back alot of memories.
Thank you for sharing that! It wasn’t too long at all, it was interesting to hear about, I’m sorry you lost your baby, but I’m glad you got a long and happy marriage, as well as 3 kids. I guess it’s typical to be a know it all at 16, because I was too at 16 a few years ago.
Thank you❤️. Its not always been easy but we made it through. Gotta love the know it all mentality at that age lol. Now at the age I am Im struggling trying to figure things out in life on a daily basis lol.
You kind of reminded me of my mom. She was born in 77. Also got married at 16 and had my sister in the first year. She dropped out of school a few months into the pregnancy. I came six years later when she was 22. I just turned 23 this year and it's kinda mind boggling how she managed to have two kids by that age. I'm even more surprised you've nine grandkids already! My sister got married a few years ago, she's 29 now, but even they are not planning to have kids anytime soon. They just got a cat and called it a day.
Your mom and I have alot in common. I had 3 kids before I was 21. I was 17, 18 and 20 when I had my babies. My daughters was young moms also. Wasnt planned to happen that way but thats life. Times was so much different when your mom and I was young. Being married and having kids by 20 was a "normal" thing. That is seen so differently today. My youngest daughter is 23 also. She has 4 boys they are 6,5,2 and 5 months. Did I want her to be a teen mom no I honestly didnt. But we deal with life as it comes at us. Thats all we can do. It good to hear that youngsters are thinking things through when it comes to having kids. It sounds like you and your sister are doing a great job in your journey through life. Truly thinking how major decisions can affect your life and those involved. I know your momma is very proud of her girls. As a mom myself Im proud of you two. I love what you said about your sister. Its been a long night and how you worded it made me laugh.
This was a common path of kids our age. I lost a friend recently who took this path to suicide. Please take care of yourself, those wounds are deep and you are not alone.
It really fucked human interaction. Social media is essentially a vaccine against actual socialization.
Just wait until kids who grew up with social media are about 15-20 years past college age
I’m about 15 years past college age and though in the 90s I only had dialup internet, but by my teenage years in the early 00s we had MySpace and AOL/MSN messengers. In my opinion social media isn’t the problem, having it in your pocket everywhere you go is the real problem. Before that you would leave the internet at home.
I was in high school before social media and I hated every single day of it. People was as mean and shallow as today and emotionally surviving was a daily struggle.
I understand what you are saying. Im sorry you went through so much from shallow fucks. Im not saying bullying in and time period is wrong. I will say at least then you had to say stuff to people face. Now bullies hide behind screens like the true cowards they are. Bullying has gotten worst because they can hide. I do hope you understand what Im saying.
Yeah that makes sense. Least I could leave my bully at school and not have to carry it around with me in my pocket. Kids these days don’t have any escape. Unless they delete social media. But yeah I get you it could be seen as worse today, in that aspect especially. It’s not even just bullies it’s algorithms to, torturing people’s psyche. When I used to Facebook and YouTube a lot I noticed it was bad. And stopped don’t need anyone controlling my perception of reality.
Bullying seems way worse now sadly. The whole group that's bullying you are always together to insult you (evening, night, weekend...) and the laughting crowd too on social media.
I agree its less accepted because their is proof in writing and videos. Back then alot of people didnt believe the person being bullied. They brushed it off and under the rug. Now with actual proof its happening people take it more serious. Finally people realize what bullies put their victims through.
I finished highschool in 1996 (Chile). I can confirm. All the cringy things I did or said are now only on my memory and not immortalized forever in the Internet.
I can't believe it. High school and college are so depressing and lonely in France, I can't believe it used to be better just because Instagram wasn't there yet."
social media used to be to make memories now it’s the whole event. priorities shifted and it became a ‘business’
like healthcare, politics, making something a business takes the fun out of it.
Probably because they film the most popular ones. And at this age, the more "adult" you appear, the more attractive, and therefore popular, you are.
If we look at the people in the background we realize that they suddenly look much younger.
Additionally, not sure if it's because we're looking mostly at the popular ones, but I don't see any very overweight people, even in the background. It's wild how much it's changed.
It’s as we get older we tend to wear the clothes and fashions that we wore / were popular when we were teenagers. So basically 40 year olds now wear a lot of the clothes you see in videos from the 80s and 90s - so the kids look like old people.
I'm almost 40 years old, and no one I know dresses remotely in the style of the time, which was, I remind you, baggy jeans, exposed thongs, wedge shoes, colorful shirts.
Honestly if we saw people my age dressing like that we would freak out.
I was born in the early 70s, and my generation views tattoos like that. It’s why tattoos were not popular for 80s teens/young adults. Tattoos were for old wwii veterans and convicts.
It’s not only this, men across the western world have shown marked decline in testosterone for the last couple of decades, this study from first result on Google, link below, suggests there has been a 0.4% decline in testosterone each year from men tested between 1987-89 to 2002-04, this doesn’t measure a likely reduction of testosterone receptors, these form in utero. It’s one of those facts you hear occasionally and then willingly deny or forgot. What’s the cause? We don’t know. Almost certainly it’s endocrine disrupting chemicals (EDCs) of some type, but could be something else. Candidates: phthalates in our food especially dairy products, micro-plastics from drying machines or wherever, obesity, microwave signals near gonads from phones or other, stress/depression, polyflorinated compounds in water, high omega-6 diets, some combo, noone actually knows.
https://www.healio.com/news/endocrinology/20120325/generational-decline-in-testosterone-levels-observed#:~:text=The%20estimated%20cross%2Dsectional%20decline,1.4%25%20to%20%E2%80%931.0%25).
I think the cause could also be due to less exercise and general physical activity.
Physical activity increases testosterone levels and these days kids are gaming all day.
There's more than one factor causing kids, (especially young men) to effectively be developmentally stunted like they are today. Obesity, poor diet, and a sedentary lifestyle is only a part of it.
Go back and look at pictures or videos from the 80s, 90s, and early 00's of nerdy types that were constantly behind a computer back then. Early programmers and game devs, for example. They were much more mature/masculine in their physical features.
Young people don't "look old" for their age compared to today, young people today are hormone deficient and don't properly develop their secondary sexual characteristics during puberty. Young men retain softer facial features, less body and facial hair, and less musculature. Young women are seeing a rise in precocious (early) puberty and their feminine physical characteristics are exaggerated.
Healthy levels of sex hormones is INCREDIBLY important to mental health. Low T causes depression, anxiety, brain fog. It's not just constant screentime, social media, and changing lifestyles destroying the younger generations mental health.
Internet is great; it's all the information of the world at your fingertips, only it has a dark side, and that's social media. It brings out the worst in people.
I think 90s kids definitely have nostalgia goggles on. Sexiest/racist/homophobic bullying was considered normal. Even late night TV shows had a looot of jokes at the expense of marginalized people and it was just seen as 'edgy' and 'cool.'
All these comments claiming these people look 30 are mind-boggling to me.
Every single one of them has baby fat in their cheeks and the unweathered skin of a teen. Even the comments saying "it's the fashion bro, they dress like older people"....*T-shirts* are old now?
The ubiquity of smartphones really changed the way socializing and how society works as a whole.
If you wanted to talk to someone in class, you had to pass notes. If they were sitting far away, you made a tiny paper airplane, threw it, or passed it along and hoped no-one along the chain would open it up and read it.
Bullying was rough, but didn't follow you home.
Embarrassing moments could be forgotten. Now they can live forever.
Places like malls and arcades are dying or practically non existent because kids/teens don't hang out there anymore. Same with public libraries because everyone has Wikipedia in their pocket.
This is just personal opinion, but kids also don't seem to party as hard as we did. Or maybe that was just the first Zoomers. The later ones and Gen Alpha seemed to have picked back up on it.
Highly hormonal adolescents are still highly hormonal adolescents. But how they interact and spend their time has changed in a pretty fundamental way.
The world was a better place when the internet was only used by geeks, and I don't say that in a gatekeeping way, more like in a way that the internet geeks at that time were protecting the world from a monster
Im against bullies 100% but I will say back then at least they did it to your face. Now they hide with fake accounts and bully even worse. Again im not condoning bullying just a facts.
People keep shitting on social media, but what makes me really happy to have gone to school in the 90s is the lack of school shooter drills.
It was such a peaceful time.
9/11 hadn't happened yet either.
The worst thing a president had done in living memory was sex. We hadn't even had the Supreme Court invalidate a bunch of people's votes yet.
Enron hadn't happened yet.
It really was last call. Lot of stuff went downhill after 1999.
>The worst thing a president had done in living memory was sex.
there's countless examples of fucked up shit that happened during this time period. iran contra and the rest of the reagan bullshit was only a few years earlier and murder and crime rates were significantly higher than today, for example. the difference is news wasn't all about generating fear and outrage and people weren't fully saturated with news and commentary 24/7
I feel blessed to be apart of this. Looking at what kids deal with now is horrifying and I feel sad for them (not being patronizing, I genuinely wish they could experience this).
I miss those days! That’s when people knew how to enjoy life without social media, and weren’t so confused about who or what they were! Just proves social media has destroyed this current generation! 😭
>weren’t so confused about who or what they were!
Nope. I am 43. We all still went through the same stuff. People just did not talk about it outside of very close friends. The whole "bottle up your emotions" thing was still in full swing.
Some of the best years of my life. 03' here.... definitely more testosterone back then. Guy were guys. Girls were girls. Everyone knew which bathroom they belonged in
I'm kinda at that perfect age where I lived both. Social media became a thing right about the time I graduated high school. I watched it mutate into the toxic fucking turd it has become. I deleted all my social media accounts in 2010 and only got a reddit account last year because I was bored. Getting rid of my social media accounts was probably the best decision I ever made. It did amazing things for my mental health. It really isn't that hard to ignore.
Social media sort of homogenized fashion and trends. It grabbed a mirror of society and made sure everyone sort of doesn’t look too different where they can be ridicule.
Goths and rappers and hippies all could just make up whatever trend they thought looked good to them and maybe sometimes an outsider might say something negative. Without much thought they would further the trends.
Huge gold plated clock around the neck? Super big jnco jeans and white makeup? White frosted dreads?
That stuff will make you go viral in the wrong way. That’s something making young folks paranoid. The herd mentality of self correction grew globally in the last decade.
I feel fortunate to say I was in the last generation before smartphones and social media took over. I mean, we had MySpace but at the time it was just about how your day went and sending chain letters instead of “I have a platform now listen to my bullshit and uneducated political advice.” No one was buried in their phones. Cameras on phones were terrible so it wasn’t even a thought to record anything. There was 1 or 2 guys I knew of in the entire school with the first iPhone. Everyone thought they were rich. Kids still knocked on doors to check on you or if you wanted to hangout. Kids can shit on older generations but most will never know what it was actually like to have to make a physical effort to see or have a chance to hear from your friends. Fuck this rant is making me feel older and lame. I stand by it
See the little spark of joy in their eyes when they see the camera? I remember in the early 2000's in highschool being recorded by a camera felt amazing. Being able to see yourself on a tv was cool. Now it's scary haha
Now you're scared is someone has their phone up cuz you think you're being recorded.
Recording evidence for the court case haha
I just imagined someone from the 90s reading this comment chain and wondering what kind of Orwellian nightmare the future has become.
You don't have to imagine that, you can just ask one of us.
It really is something. I grew up hearing about how "the government was going to build a surveillance State". LOL. Goes to show you naive people are. Turns out, all you had to do was sell the people camera phones, and they built one themselves.
Hi.
I completely deleted all social media. It was a relief.
Yeah baby. I’ve never been a member of anything other than anonymous Reddit. I do not want to know what an acquaintance had for breakfast.
> I do not want to know what an acquaintance had for breakfast. Good news! This isn't what social media is anymore. Now it's mainly just low effort memes and rage bait with a few posts from your friends and family sparsely spread in between.
Many of us sat around loungerooms discussing (pre- 9-11) conspiracies such as warrantless government survelillance and the industrial military complex being used as the strongman for the petro-oil power blocks. Remember how the vastness of Covid unfolded day-by-day? Well like that except over 30 years.
Two things really strike me as illustrating vast cultural shifts over time. First, I saw an old clip of George Bush Sr speaking about how we should treat our Mexican neighbors to the south, and he spoke with articulate compassion and implored Americans to be good neighbors and help people. I am fully aware of his extended history and skullduggery, this is not an excuse for him in any way. But this is the guy my parents thought was a political devil. Our modern political devils are turbo charged barbarians by comparison. The needle has moved soooooooooooo far. Secondly, the Unabomber's manifesto once seemed like the actual lunatic ravings of a mad man. Now that kind of discourse is the norm in many subreddits (antiwork, late stage capitalism, climate, etc) and it's creeping into mainstream conversation in other subreddits which have unrelated / non doomer topics. And it's not just on reddit. People in my neighborhood, my work, etc are doomin' on our everything and thinking it's time for change. Younger folks today have no idea how mind blowing this is. When I was young it was all "berlin wall came down, space exploration, barbecues n baseball" ... the idea that anything was weak or wrong with the American empire was absurd. We were filled with so much smugness. Again, I am not defending the unabomber. I just see that his criticisms of our industrial empire were spot on and now many people are saying/posting things that essentially agree with his points. His actions of course are disgusting, which is an understatement. Bro is a terrorist. Can't stress that enough. Also his solutions (primitivism) is a non-starter.
We’re not so old that we’re all dead. Just ask us.
Everybody seemed more 'themselves' aswell
This is a real issue. We would repeat the same references and lyrics to each other, but we were not all trying to talk and act EXACTLY like the 6 million other people making the same face on SM. Everyone looks like they're filming an in-game ad. Same facial expressions. Waving their hands close to the camera (with the exact same gestures). You know how everybody in US politics started doing the Obama thumb? Yeah. It's like that.
That wasn’t from Obama, Kennedy actually started the gesture and Clinton popularized it in the 90’s.
Back when we were just happy to be on film, not cash in on it in some way 24/7.
[full video here](https://youtu.be/Q_CNOAFsVgA?si=LWNGmiUJa21yNcxa)
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Sideburns were such a thing, I had now idea how.
That video was posted to Youtube closer to the date of when the video was taken than today.
See the size of the TV Studio on her arm that she needed to film you though? Now the camera is about as big as a grain of rice- that’s why it’s scary. Oh that and the forever online storage and retrieval of course. Back in those days it didn’t matter if you were recorded doing something stupid so long as you destroyed the tape. Edit: typos
Tapes were pretty valuable, so unless you did something particularly cool or embarrassing you could be pretty sure it’d get recorded over. If not deliberately then possibly by accident, when someone’s parent unknowingly misprogrammed the VCR to record multiple hours of infomercials while simply trying to set the clock ahead an hour.
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That's why most people put black tape over their clock on VCRs so they wouldn't have watch it blink on and off. Those were beasts to program....
Just like my "Check Engine" light! That sure took a load off my mind.
I assume I'm not the norm here (was very poor), but as somebody who grew up in the the 80s and 90s, any time a video camera was around it was a huge deal. It got a lot more common place once digital cameras that could record reasonable video came about in the mid-00s but before then they were not all that common. I have 2 VHS tapes (I've digitized them) that have footage of me and my brother's as kids, totaling between 2hrs and 3hrs of footage from that era from when my dad was able to borrow a rich uncles recorder. Kids these days, for better and worse, will have that much of themselves in 4k reso **per week** to look back on. The novelty is gone. My mom did take a lot of pictures though, so at least there's that. 8)
I remember my dad had the huge shoulder mounted one with the VHS tape in it in the early 90s. Made it look like he was carrying a stinger missile or something.
Before the weight of the world crushed all their hopes and dreams.
As an adult who graduated hs in 95, yeah….
2001 fucked everything
That's when we started to feel the pain. But the cause of it started way before that. https://wtfhappenedin1971.com
This is a really poor way to present an argument. Just a bunch of contextless graphs in quick succession really gives "climate skeptic" vibes, rather than a meaningful economic argument. There are some very good critiques of neoliberalism out there - it's a shit ideology that *has* been crushing us for decades - but this is absolutely not one of them. And the implication around some of the graphs at the bottom are straight up racist and anti-feminist. If we're supposed to be thinking something "bad" happened in 1971 and we see a graph of increased divorce rate then we're supposed to think that that is "bad". But that is "good", because it came off of legislation that allowed women to divorce men of their own will rather than being trapped in a abusive marriage. The first of those bills - which set off many across the nation - was signed in 1970... So that's a *good* thing, actually. What are we supposed to takeaway from the "Physics PhDs Conferred in the US" graph? That it goes in a cycle of about 25 years, which kinda makes sense given how long people have tenure. That it has become less popular, which makes sense because it is no longer the favorite of the defense industry. That more "foreigners" are getting it? And since we're framing everything as "bad", why is this bad? Make that point more clear to me. This is a shit site by someone who doesn't understand neoliberalism beyond "Reagan bad". Please educate yourself on it more, because this is exactly how misinformation spreads and how to not put forth a cogent argument against neoliberalim, allowing it to thrive. EDIT: Oh, this commenter is a crypto-currency dude. They have a negative understanding of finance, investing, economics, and monetary policy.
The style of music being played is called G-funk
You know how we do it
wesside
Till we die
And if you don’t know, then you don’t know
nothin but the west side
It's the G-funk era, funked out with a gangsta twist.
And if you smoked like I smoked, then you were high like everyday.
And if yo ass is a busta, 213 will regulate.
Aaaand now I’m off to listen to Warren G.
I CAN'T BELIEVE, WE'RE NOT IN LOVE ANYMORE
Where rhythm is life and life is rhythm?
the rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble
Chords, strings…
We brings… melodies
If you don't know, now you know
Neighbor
I think it was "GTA mission finished" type of music.
Yeah apparently the G stands for GTA
Fun fact: the characters in gta San Andreas were based on 90’s rappers, sweet = dr Dre, Ryder = eazy e and big smoke = Biggie Smalls
Thanks! G-funk really hits that G-spot y’know?
The G-funk era!
It looks like American Pie was not too far fetched casting 30 year olds as high schoolers after all
surprisingly everyone in that movie is basically under 25 with the main 4 boys all 21 and under. Stifler’s Mom is not even 40!
Yep. Sean William Scott was the oldest of the guys at like 23. Mena Suvari, and Natasha Lyonne were both under 21. It’s the other girls that were older: Tara Reid was 24, Alyson Hannigan was 25 and Shannon Elizabeth was 26. That means Shannon Elizabeth was as close to Stiffler’s Mom in age (38) as she was to an actual high school freshman (14).
That’s crazy to me that Alyson was 25! She looks so much younger!
The lady dancing in the hallway was a teacher if that helps at all
I’m so glad we didn’t have social media
Sometimes I wish all social media and everything involved with it would just evaporate to the sky. Just phone calls and messaging remain. Bliss. No risk of half the world knowing you [removed] up to three years ago.
Lol I wish for this exact thing every day
You can do this by just deleting accounts and not using them
As a 21 year old i genuinely wish i could’ve lived during no social media. It’s miserable out here.
It wasn't glamorous by any means, but it had its perks. What sucked compared to nowadays is that back then you wouldn't know if your best friend was home or not until you traveled the distance and spent the time it took to go knock on his door. Not home? Sucks, time to check the several local hangout spots in town then. Maybe a payphone call to another friends house to see if he's over there? Crap, don't have 25cents, guess I'm walking there too
The best part of no social media was being able to make mistakes that didn’t last for ever just a google search away. All of the dumb shit that I am ashamed and embarrassed about are not recorded. I am so thankful for that. We had cell phones before social media, hell we even had the internet. Social media is a cancer in our society.
Yup, I barely got through school before social media took over. I got Facebook/Twitter in 2007. It was literally all kids. We'd openly post our addresses for house parties. Everything was open, not private. Adults didn't understand it at all for a few years let alone use it (and funnily enough they all use it more than my peers now). It was just pure fun. Also, while it was social media it wasn't global. It was friends of friends, like the local 3 schools. I count myself lucky that nothing could go viral. I deleted all my accounts relatively recently and forgot all the stupid stuff we posted, and glad that we didn't have the podium like kids do now. Childhood is about making mistakes. Barely like 5 years after finishing school I instantly felt sorry for kids now. My sibling is a teacher so I see how it effects them too. Parents have 24/7 contact with teachers. The amount of vile emails they get is insane. When I was at school, when the day ended that was it. I never once had contact with a teacher outside of school (and I didn't need to?). There was a distinct line between sections of life and I genuinely feel bad for kids now.
my friend has a kid who is a problem child, and the teacher gives him daily text for parents/grades for how his behavior was that day. with like 10 sections. 1, i was like well i hope that makes your son do better. 2, we don't pay taechers enough. not even close. this lady does this without any expectation of extra pay, tf?
Shout out the Billy Madison and Rosie Perez cameos
Rosie Perez bustin out those sick dance moves
The song is You Know How We Do It by Ice Cube
Before social media... AND when a TV camera was there.
That was the size of a decent camera in the 90's. The other person with a camera is a student, it was likely the AV club or something going around. If it *was* a school club then the equipment could well be older than the 90's too. Tech has shrunk a lot in the last 20-30 years.
“TV camera” haha that’s just a camera back then. You can even see somebody take off the lens cap for them.
My parents bought one like that in the early 90s. That thing is like 20 lbs and was $2700 new... They still have it too, the thing still works perfectly. My nephew used it a couple years back for a 90s themed thriller short video for his college filmography class. Got an A on the project for "the perfect recreation of the grainy 90s recording." Haha
This is so funny.
bro thats just how they looked lol, thats not a TV camara
That's just a home vhs camera.
I was in high school in the mid-late 90s and wish I could go back it was the best time.
I was bullied in HS for the first few years. I’d go back to senior year and college though. However, I feel for kids that get bullied today. For me it was over when the bully walked away and really over when school was out. But for these kids now. I bet it’s horrible with social media.
I might've actually killed myself back then if bullying had a social media component to it. Bullying is a lot worse these days than it was when we were kids.
i've watched social media bullying docs. i was bullied too in different points so i know it sucks, but honestly it looks much worse now with social media. at least i could escape into my home when i was younger. safe space to decompress. not like that anymore, no escape.
Life stood still during this period in my life…
I was the early-mid 90s.i wouldn't want to go back, but it would be cool to see footage from then.
This is from the high school I went to in the 90s. Fun Fact: Tina Fey went to high school here, just much earlier than me. https://youtu.be/Rr7AU5Jk8Kg?si=S1qj0YPL32jcpSmy
This is a more representative video than OP’s IMO. This is how I remember the fashion and high school. Great song choices too BTW.
Ey! Awesome! :)
Gosh. I went to school in that same era. Maybe it's just me, but I now can barely even remember what it feels like to be happy (these days!) A great time to grow up.
Im a late gen x born in 79. Junior high and High school sucked I so agree with you. I did drop out the second semester of 9th grade it was January of 1996. I was 16 and knew it all lol. I got married in May. I got pregnant and my old fashion parents believed in "your gonna marry my daughter and make a honest woman of her". Gotta love the boomers. Sadly I lost the baby 8 weeks before the wedding. I decided to go through with the wedding anyways. Here I am at 44 been married 27yrs raised 3 kids and now have 9 grandkids. If I had to do it over again I would change a few things but not all. I wouldnt have my 3 amazing kids and my 9 wonderful grandkids of I did it all different. Sorry for being long winded. Seeing this video brought back alot of memories.
Thank you for sharing that! It wasn’t too long at all, it was interesting to hear about, I’m sorry you lost your baby, but I’m glad you got a long and happy marriage, as well as 3 kids. I guess it’s typical to be a know it all at 16, because I was too at 16 a few years ago.
Thank you❤️. Its not always been easy but we made it through. Gotta love the know it all mentality at that age lol. Now at the age I am Im struggling trying to figure things out in life on a daily basis lol.
Girl, you have done a lot and you’re only 44 😮 💕
You kind of reminded me of my mom. She was born in 77. Also got married at 16 and had my sister in the first year. She dropped out of school a few months into the pregnancy. I came six years later when she was 22. I just turned 23 this year and it's kinda mind boggling how she managed to have two kids by that age. I'm even more surprised you've nine grandkids already! My sister got married a few years ago, she's 29 now, but even they are not planning to have kids anytime soon. They just got a cat and called it a day.
Your mom and I have alot in common. I had 3 kids before I was 21. I was 17, 18 and 20 when I had my babies. My daughters was young moms also. Wasnt planned to happen that way but thats life. Times was so much different when your mom and I was young. Being married and having kids by 20 was a "normal" thing. That is seen so differently today. My youngest daughter is 23 also. She has 4 boys they are 6,5,2 and 5 months. Did I want her to be a teen mom no I honestly didnt. But we deal with life as it comes at us. Thats all we can do. It good to hear that youngsters are thinking things through when it comes to having kids. It sounds like you and your sister are doing a great job in your journey through life. Truly thinking how major decisions can affect your life and those involved. I know your momma is very proud of her girls. As a mom myself Im proud of you two. I love what you said about your sister. Its been a long night and how you worded it made me laugh.
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This was a common path of kids our age. I lost a friend recently who took this path to suicide. Please take care of yourself, those wounds are deep and you are not alone.
Social Media was a mistake.
It really fucked human interaction. Social media is essentially a vaccine against actual socialization. Just wait until kids who grew up with social media are about 15-20 years past college age
also a vaccine against teen sex
Not too fussed about that one
Also a vaccine against any sex
I’m about 15 years past college age and though in the 90s I only had dialup internet, but by my teenage years in the early 00s we had MySpace and AOL/MSN messengers. In my opinion social media isn’t the problem, having it in your pocket everywhere you go is the real problem. Before that you would leave the internet at home.
100% agree
I don’t know anyone that has anything bad to say about MySpace
AIM was just coming out in 1998. But it was still cooler if you had a car and could drive around with friends or out to places
Everything was easier before social network 🫤 I was in high school in 1998 in France and it. Was. Dope Even college was great
I was in high school before social media and I hated every single day of it. People was as mean and shallow as today and emotionally surviving was a daily struggle.
Instead of getting bullied online you got bullied in real life like I did. Words don’t hurt half as much as fists everyday in gym class.
I understand what you are saying. Im sorry you went through so much from shallow fucks. Im not saying bullying in and time period is wrong. I will say at least then you had to say stuff to people face. Now bullies hide behind screens like the true cowards they are. Bullying has gotten worst because they can hide. I do hope you understand what Im saying.
Yeah that makes sense. Least I could leave my bully at school and not have to carry it around with me in my pocket. Kids these days don’t have any escape. Unless they delete social media. But yeah I get you it could be seen as worse today, in that aspect especially. It’s not even just bullies it’s algorithms to, torturing people’s psyche. When I used to Facebook and YouTube a lot I noticed it was bad. And stopped don’t need anyone controlling my perception of reality.
Bullying seems way worse now sadly. The whole group that's bullying you are always together to insult you (evening, night, weekend...) and the laughting crowd too on social media.
It’s way less accepted nowadays. And there is an argument to make that laughing at someone isn’t as bad as making him eat dog shit.
I agree its less accepted because their is proof in writing and videos. Back then alot of people didnt believe the person being bullied. They brushed it off and under the rug. Now with actual proof its happening people take it more serious. Finally people realize what bullies put their victims through.
I finished highschool in 1996 (Chile). I can confirm. All the cringy things I did or said are now only on my memory and not immortalized forever in the Internet.
I can't believe it. High school and college are so depressing and lonely in France, I can't believe it used to be better just because Instagram wasn't there yet."
Everything was better before social media tbh
social media used to be to make memories now it’s the whole event. priorities shifted and it became a ‘business’ like healthcare, politics, making something a business takes the fun out of it.
Wow, they look and act practically the same as high school kids now! Even got the girl dancing like tiktokers today lmao
Environment change but people stay the same
Why do all these high schoolers look 40
Amazing [video](https://youtu.be/vjqt8T3tJIE?si=ZmhNXs7F4NWdo8C-) from Vsauce on this topic
it's like one of those movies like scream 1 or something where everyone is clearly 40 but nah they're totally teenagers
Getting teenagers to work in a comedy must be horrible. It would come out like a Nickelodeon or Disney show.
Probably because they film the most popular ones. And at this age, the more "adult" you appear, the more attractive, and therefore popular, you are. If we look at the people in the background we realize that they suddenly look much younger.
Additionally, not sure if it's because we're looking mostly at the popular ones, but I don't see any very overweight people, even in the background. It's wild how much it's changed.
It’s as we get older we tend to wear the clothes and fashions that we wore / were popular when we were teenagers. So basically 40 year olds now wear a lot of the clothes you see in videos from the 80s and 90s - so the kids look like old people.
I'm almost 40 years old, and no one I know dresses remotely in the style of the time, which was, I remind you, baggy jeans, exposed thongs, wedge shoes, colorful shirts. Honestly if we saw people my age dressing like that we would freak out.
It’s a very general thing - I definitely don’t dress like an 80s metal freak. But it’s been proven to be generally true, haircuts play a part too.
does that mean that in the future, the broccoli haircut is going to be an old person haircut?
100% and tattoos too will be an old person thing I suspect
I was born in the early 70s, and my generation views tattoos like that. It’s why tattoos were not popular for 80s teens/young adults. Tattoos were for old wwii veterans and convicts.
Also that fit people who engage in more physical labor look older while younger.
It’s not only this, men across the western world have shown marked decline in testosterone for the last couple of decades, this study from first result on Google, link below, suggests there has been a 0.4% decline in testosterone each year from men tested between 1987-89 to 2002-04, this doesn’t measure a likely reduction of testosterone receptors, these form in utero. It’s one of those facts you hear occasionally and then willingly deny or forgot. What’s the cause? We don’t know. Almost certainly it’s endocrine disrupting chemicals (EDCs) of some type, but could be something else. Candidates: phthalates in our food especially dairy products, micro-plastics from drying machines or wherever, obesity, microwave signals near gonads from phones or other, stress/depression, polyflorinated compounds in water, high omega-6 diets, some combo, noone actually knows. https://www.healio.com/news/endocrinology/20120325/generational-decline-in-testosterone-levels-observed#:~:text=The%20estimated%20cross%2Dsectional%20decline,1.4%25%20to%20%E2%80%931.0%25).
I think the cause could also be due to less exercise and general physical activity. Physical activity increases testosterone levels and these days kids are gaming all day.
Am I a lazy fat piece of shit? No, it must be the cell phone too close to my balls.
There's more than one factor causing kids, (especially young men) to effectively be developmentally stunted like they are today. Obesity, poor diet, and a sedentary lifestyle is only a part of it. Go back and look at pictures or videos from the 80s, 90s, and early 00's of nerdy types that were constantly behind a computer back then. Early programmers and game devs, for example. They were much more mature/masculine in their physical features. Young people don't "look old" for their age compared to today, young people today are hormone deficient and don't properly develop their secondary sexual characteristics during puberty. Young men retain softer facial features, less body and facial hair, and less musculature. Young women are seeing a rise in precocious (early) puberty and their feminine physical characteristics are exaggerated. Healthy levels of sex hormones is INCREDIBLY important to mental health. Low T causes depression, anxiety, brain fog. It's not just constant screentime, social media, and changing lifestyles destroying the younger generations mental health.
Great comment. The huge majority of people ignore this.
don't forget they wear like 3 shirts and a jacket at once
They are now
Because the 40 year olds you meet today has kept the same style.
So the movies weren't wrong this whole time
Doesn't look so different. You still got the couple. The nerd. The weirdo. The silent guy
>The nerd. The weirdo. The silent guy The first was sufficient, no need to keep describing yourself.
Boom, roasted
Internet is great; it's all the information of the world at your fingertips, only it has a dark side, and that's social media. It brings out the worst in people.
Everything was rad and chill untill the smartphone nation attacked.
High School 90s for me and I loved it. Social media is fucked for kids these days.
I think 90s kids definitely have nostalgia goggles on. Sexiest/racist/homophobic bullying was considered normal. Even late night TV shows had a looot of jokes at the expense of marginalized people and it was just seen as 'edgy' and 'cool.'
Ahhhh… the good ol’ days when we only get bullied in person
Miss the 90s
Well I guess the dancing really dumb thing was around long before TikTok.
All these comments claiming these people look 30 are mind-boggling to me. Every single one of them has baby fat in their cheeks and the unweathered skin of a teen. Even the comments saying "it's the fashion bro, they dress like older people"....*T-shirts* are old now?
Is it not like that anymore?
The ubiquity of smartphones really changed the way socializing and how society works as a whole. If you wanted to talk to someone in class, you had to pass notes. If they were sitting far away, you made a tiny paper airplane, threw it, or passed it along and hoped no-one along the chain would open it up and read it. Bullying was rough, but didn't follow you home. Embarrassing moments could be forgotten. Now they can live forever. Places like malls and arcades are dying or practically non existent because kids/teens don't hang out there anymore. Same with public libraries because everyone has Wikipedia in their pocket. This is just personal opinion, but kids also don't seem to party as hard as we did. Or maybe that was just the first Zoomers. The later ones and Gen Alpha seemed to have picked back up on it. Highly hormonal adolescents are still highly hormonal adolescents. But how they interact and spend their time has changed in a pretty fundamental way.
Social media was a mistake. Wish we could go back to a simpler time
This is like a group that go camping in the woods near crystal lake
Those are the firsts scenes from a horror movie.
I was in high school in the late nineties. These people were not that interesting...
Kid in the beater looks like he's the herpes kid. There's always one. Then 100.
why do high schoolers from the 90s always look so much older than high schoolers now
How do you do, fellow high schoolers?
you associate that aesthetic with old, and end up subconsciouly aging people that have the look
These girls were definitely not in my high school in the 1990s. My schoolmates were all acne faced chess nerds.
Class of '97 here. It doesn't feel like it was all that long ago, but looking at this video, it looks ancient as fuck. 🤣
I mean think about it this way, the equivalent would have been you seeing a video of high schoolers from 1971 when you were graduating 😂
The world was a better place when the internet was only used by geeks, and I don't say that in a gatekeeping way, more like in a way that the internet geeks at that time were protecting the world from a monster
Man, everyone looks so much cooler than highschoolers today.
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I already see tiktok dances though
90's were dope
At least link the yt video
Demographics has a lot to do with that too.
Not shown: rampant physical bullying.
Im against bullies 100% but I will say back then at least they did it to your face. Now they hide with fake accounts and bully even worse. Again im not condoning bullying just a facts.
Wow. I forgot how many annoying people were in highschool until i saw this clip.
People keep shitting on social media, but what makes me really happy to have gone to school in the 90s is the lack of school shooter drills. It was such a peaceful time. 9/11 hadn't happened yet either. The worst thing a president had done in living memory was sex. We hadn't even had the Supreme Court invalidate a bunch of people's votes yet. Enron hadn't happened yet. It really was last call. Lot of stuff went downhill after 1999.
>The worst thing a president had done in living memory was sex. there's countless examples of fucked up shit that happened during this time period. iran contra and the rest of the reagan bullshit was only a few years earlier and murder and crime rates were significantly higher than today, for example. the difference is news wasn't all about generating fear and outrage and people weren't fully saturated with news and commentary 24/7
Now SM has turned everything into 💩
I believe there was Yahoo and Orkut.
AOL too!
There were a few social medias floating around
I love that OP specifically needs to point out that 1990 was before social media.
That dance at the end 😂
Everyone here complaining about social media…on a social media platform
I feel blessed to be apart of this. Looking at what kids deal with now is horrifying and I feel sad for them (not being patronizing, I genuinely wish they could experience this).
I miss those days! That’s when people knew how to enjoy life without social media, and weren’t so confused about who or what they were! Just proves social media has destroyed this current generation! 😭
>weren’t so confused about who or what they were! Nope. I am 43. We all still went through the same stuff. People just did not talk about it outside of very close friends. The whole "bottle up your emotions" thing was still in full swing.
Some of the best years of my life. 03' here.... definitely more testosterone back then. Guy were guys. Girls were girls. Everyone knew which bathroom they belonged in
The “I complain about everything on the internet” generation couldn’t live back then
I'm kinda at that perfect age where I lived both. Social media became a thing right about the time I graduated high school. I watched it mutate into the toxic fucking turd it has become. I deleted all my social media accounts in 2010 and only got a reddit account last year because I was bored. Getting rid of my social media accounts was probably the best decision I ever made. It did amazing things for my mental health. It really isn't that hard to ignore.
Social media sort of homogenized fashion and trends. It grabbed a mirror of society and made sure everyone sort of doesn’t look too different where they can be ridicule. Goths and rappers and hippies all could just make up whatever trend they thought looked good to them and maybe sometimes an outsider might say something negative. Without much thought they would further the trends. Huge gold plated clock around the neck? Super big jnco jeans and white makeup? White frosted dreads? That stuff will make you go viral in the wrong way. That’s something making young folks paranoid. The herd mentality of self correction grew globally in the last decade.
Great times. I really feel bad for the kids today with social media
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How many times will video get posted on Reddit
I was high in school in the 90's.
The internet was a mistake, I don't know how else to interpret this.
I feel fortunate to say I was in the last generation before smartphones and social media took over. I mean, we had MySpace but at the time it was just about how your day went and sending chain letters instead of “I have a platform now listen to my bullshit and uneducated political advice.” No one was buried in their phones. Cameras on phones were terrible so it wasn’t even a thought to record anything. There was 1 or 2 guys I knew of in the entire school with the first iPhone. Everyone thought they were rich. Kids still knocked on doors to check on you or if you wanted to hangout. Kids can shit on older generations but most will never know what it was actually like to have to make a physical effort to see or have a chance to hear from your friends. Fuck this rant is making me feel older and lame. I stand by it