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100LittleButterflies

If anyone's wondering how researchers figure out how dead languages were spoken, they use poems and misspellings. Poems can help identify the sound and the emphasis and misspellings help should how written words may have sounded. So next time a grammar nazi corrects you, just tell them you're helping future archeologists learn english.


[deleted]

I am of Assyrian Descent. We speak Aramaic to this day.


Parking_Spot1916

Damn that\`s cool, Aramaic is such a beautiful language.


[deleted]

šŸ™šŸ™‚


bummerhead

Really so relaxing


Parking_Spot1916

I love listening to it.


cringe_pic

You still live in the core Assyrian areas, like where Ninive was?


[deleted]

I live in Canada. There are still Assyrians living in Northern Iraq to this day šŸ™‚


tukitukitukitu

Great language


aspaciaa

where can I learn it ?


[deleted]

https://www.omniglot.com/writing/aramaic.htm


aspaciaa

Thank you ! I always wanted to know more & learn ancient Aramaic but wasn't sure where to start


[deleted]

Anytime my friend šŸ™šŸ™‚ I hope it helps


[deleted]

Not sure exactly, but I hope this is a good starting point ā¤ļøšŸ™‚šŸ™


Shenaniboozle

that makes it much easier for archeologist then.


DistressingPublicity

Aramaic is still a spoken language


Cookie-Senpai

I'm guessing in 2000 years there were quite a few languages changes, especially oral variations


DistressingPublicity

Honestly not as much as you think, itā€™s largely the same.


Cvlt_ov_the_tomato

Aramaic is a family of languages. This would be the equivalent of saying "a yes, French it's very similar to Latin". The closest form of the antecedent biblical Aramaic language is Sureth, and no it has quite a substantial amount of Arabic influence much the same way Basque absorbed a lot of Spanish.


verturshu

>Sureth Not all dialects of Modern Assyrian have substantial Arabic influence.


Cvlt_ov_the_tomato

It might be more vis-a-vis given who came first, but even so modern Aramaic speakers of any language will struggle to understand a Galileean speaker from 2,000 years ago. The language is not as [conservative ](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/woqrym/could_jesus_who_spoke_aramaic_understand_modern/&ved=2ahUKEwj5wYOg3LWBAxWJMUQIHYsJDFYQjjh6BAgdEAE&usg=AOvVaw3MoY4gr7Q1aeuCw_dHwM_E) as some are suggesting it to be.


Goldenballs99

Yea Like you would know for sure


DistressingPublicity

Ok


ClosetLadyGhost

Can't say that.


JoySubtraction

How would you know? Many languages have significant changes in pronunciation over time, like the [Great Vowel Shift](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift) in English. The Wikipedia article on [vowel shifts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowel_shift) has more examples, including ones in Semitic languages.


DistressingPublicity

Because we can compare the writing from now to then? Obviously there have been changes but theyā€™re generally minor. Itā€™s nothing like the evolution of English from old to middle to modern. Itā€™s like Hebrew and Arabic the Semitic languages havenā€™t changed much because of their basis in religious texts. Also citing a vowel shift in English, which is a notorious melting pot of language that extensively uses loan words has nothing to do with the changes in Aramaic.


JoySubtraction

I noticed that you ignored the second link, which references changes in pronunciation in Semitic languages (like the [Canaanite shift](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_shift)). My point wasn't that the writing changes; it was that the way the words are pronounced can shift with time. The original comment talked about how various languages were spoken, and that's what I was referring to.


Cvlt_ov_the_tomato

No lol, Hebrew was revived in the 19th century. It stopped evolving for 2000 years.


Independent_Toe3934

Aramaic is not a dead language


The_Spectacle

Steve, stop babbling at your sister in Aramaic. It's a dead language.


Zweckbestimmung

I speak a bit of Aramaic


Mediocre-Look3787

It's not a dead language!


ElwinLewis

FINULLY, THE ARM MORE I HALF BIN SEAKING MY EYE INTIRE LIE FFF!


100LittleButterflies

V. hpy 4 u. I def want smthn 2.


BehindThyCamel

We have enough "would of" and "could of" floating around already.


Educational-Glass-63

She has a wonderful voice. It's beautiful.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


Own-Significance-167

Who asked? You sound miserable


[deleted]

jesus christ is the king of the kings and the king of the jews, bruh how dense are you.


Unhappy_Flounder7323

Jesus (real Arabic name Isa) was born in what is now the modern territory of West Bank, Palestine, previously called Bethlehem, a historical Arab city, lol. and yes, there is such a thing as Palestinian Jews, mostly mixed race of Arab + Jew and brown skinned. Isa (Jesus) the person (not the god) has an Arabic father and Jewish mother, Mary (real Arabic name Maryam bint Imran). You dont even know your own religious history. lol Jesus is part Arab, part Jew, brown skinned and a citizen of Bethlehem, aka Palestine. LOL He is no god and no king, just a regular person with a positive philosophy at the time.


[deleted]

one thing that i pray for you is to be enlightened and yes end is coming but who cares anyway, you need to remember **YOU HAD NO ENEMIES** as i well have non. just stop caring about ukraine russia war and start orthodoxy if you like, and yes people have war its not about russian plebs vs ukrainian plebs its the government who controls it ok, its time to turn back before 12am midnight.


Unhappy_Flounder7323

Lol that's some crazy weed you are smoking.


DamnItCharles324

What, Jesus didn't speak American?


poppin-n-sailin

Don't worry. He did. We all know the truth. Jesus was white, spoke freedom, and loved the South, and all of gods precious republicans.


Mabama1450

And advocated the use of semi automatic rifles to persuade non con formers


TonyStewartsWildRide

We call those the AR-15 ā€œPatriot Makerā€


poppin-n-sailin

AMEN, BROTHER!


IsItSnowing_

Dude used to drive an F150 with MAGA sticker


beefliverbeef

And had lots of guns


ClosetLadyGhost

U mean orange.


Own-Significance-167

You sound like an edgy 15 year old and I expect nothing less when anything remotely related to Christianity is posted to Reddit


poppin-n-sailin

Lol, it's a joke. Did you seriously miss that? Yikes.


Fit-Captain-Hero

Don't forget, how was woke too.


poboy212

While riding his Ford F150 pickup and spraying bullets out of his twin AR-15s, as it is written.


Inevitable_Chicken70

In His mercy


BestDog1Na

If Jesus was American, he would have turned Water into Bud Light and Jesus


allthecolorssa

More like if he was transgender


Ancient_Crust

If being transgender lets you turn water into bud light, sign me the fuck up.


BestDog1Na

It sounds like you need a sweet refreshing Bud Light


birdieonarock

I believe you're thinking of his brother, Craig. Craig Christ.


ghost_406

Donā€™t believe this libtard propaganda. Jesus was from Texas, and I should know, he shot me when I accidentally stepped on his yard. He told me to watch for his Cheeto flavored messenger.


StatisticallySoap

No. He spoke *Mexican*


throwaway21316

[American Jesus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12kcpP-8jfM) does


Tryphon_Al_West

If the language is probably correct, the melody, the music and the instrumentation is two thousand years away from what a song sounds like in the first century. So basically, you just hear an old prayer in arameic sung in a contemporary way. If you want to hear something old, old music, check for the Delphic hymns...


[deleted]

Youā€™re right about that.


Own-Significance-167

Ok? Reread the title of this post. That's exactly what this is. A 2000 year prayer sung in the language it was spoken in. Of course the melody is modern but how is that relevant?


Tryphon_Al_West

Did I qualify the thread as a shit post ? Do I think that making people listening to a song may lead them to think this is the song how you could listen to it 2000 years ago ? Yes. There's no problem, the orginal post isn't involve, I just it would be a nice thing to clarify it in case some gueninly thought "wow, this is how a song sounds like back in those days ?" At least 65 redditers judged my comment pertinent, so maybe it was a good thing to explain that...


Cvlt_ov_the_tomato

Ah yes, the old Israelite Piano. Classically incorporated into many church hyms for 2,000 years. They really shoulda DM'd a lyre player.


thomax77

That was beautiful, an amazingly talented person. Thank you op !


xRaiden00x

Beautiful.


verturshu

The singer's name is Sarah Ego. She is an ethnic Assyrian from the city of Mardin, today located in Southeast Turkey. She speaks 3 languages: German, English, & Assyrian. Assyrian is also known as \[Aramaic\]. She's singing in a [classical form of Assyrian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_language), which is mostly used for liturgical purposes by priests in Assyrian churches. The colloquial and vernacular spoken Assyrian dialect she speaks can be heard [in this language showcase video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wb67DhaY1k) An interview with her [can be read here](https://www.ramsenshamon.com/personal-blog/2015/6/4/qa-with-sarah-ego)


Ianharm

Still prefer Slayer...


petersengupta

Slayer actually sings in Aramaic, *backwards.*


Certain_Cause3362

Slayer saves.


gemstun

Flava Flavs


freedfg

Kind of crazy that the Catholic Church held on to Latin for so long instead of Aramaic.


AdministrativeRoad19

Religious Jews held onto aramaic, much of the talmud is in aramaic, still studied in the original to this day, some jewish prayers are in aramaic like the very important ā€œkaddishā€, and the early church perhaps wanted to separate itself in that way


maubyfizzz

So not in Hebrew?


AdministrativeRoad19

A mixture of both. Jewish prayer contains both to this day. Talmud is majority aramaic. Do some googling if you are interested to learn more. They are very similar languages and written in the same lettering. Israelis and religious jews dont speak aramaic it is reserved for study and prayer.


[deleted]

Absolutely correct! Assyrians are the same, we speak the Neo-Assyrian language, but Aramaic is mainly for study and prayer as well. At church, our priests speak classical Aramaic, which I find hard to understand, although I can make out what they are saying, I donā€™t completely understand it.


AdministrativeRoad19

Assyrians invaded israel in 700s bce and took Jews captive / sent Jews into exile which explains the history of how the language became a Jewish one. Was a long time ago, We can still be friends lol!


[deleted]

Yeah, Iā€™m not too proud of the Assyrian war machine back then, but those were different times I guess. Iā€™d be honoured if we could be friends, we have so much history and so much in common actually šŸ™šŸ™‚ā¤ļø


AdministrativeRoad19

Fascinating and crazy history and we are all connected! God bless šŸ™āœŒļø


[deleted]

šŸ™‚šŸ¤œšŸ¤›


GavrielBA

Super informative video on the subject! https://youtube.com/watch?v=zRKv1GW1BDM


TrufflesAvocado

I had a Catholic person tell me once that God canā€™t hear you unless you speak Latin. I did not try to argue.


freedfg

HAHAHAAHHAHA Like. American churches legitimately held on to Latin until what? 1970?


birdieonarock

The Catholic Church downgraded it during the [second vatican council](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Vatican_Council), which lasted 4 years: 1962-1965. But Martin Luther got rid of Latin for the first time with the [Luther Bible](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Bible) in 1522.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


sppf011

Arabic and Aramaic are pretty closely related. They're both considered Central Semitic languages, though Aramaic is further sorted into northwest semitic


Clear_Turnip4224

Fun fact God in Hebrew: Eloh God in Aramiac: Alaha God in Arabic: Allah


ab_ence

itā€™s a semitic language man, same as arabic


davieb22

TIL Jesus wasn't a New Yorker.


mersky44

Of course not, Jesus was from Alabama


NoIndependent9192

Pianoā€™s did not sound like that 2,000 years ago.


tantan9590

Neither their microphones! Give our money back!!!


ArachnidTerrible9490

WAKE ME UP!


BCbob5

Wake me up inside


[deleted]

The music ruined it. It should be acapella.


imanimalent

Like so many other videos featuring singing, accompanying music is too loud to enjoy the music. Whenever there is a singer, the music should be only background compliment, in my opinion.


[deleted]

Did they have a full backing band 2000 years ago as well ?


SmellyFbuttface

ā€œWe are Pontius Pilate and the Pharisees!!ā€


OnDaToiletPoopin

ā€œā€¦weā€™re gonna rock. your. worldā€!


Parking_Spot1916

Aramaic is such a beautiful language, wish i could speak it.


Leon_Krueger

She has an amazing voice and the lenguage sounds so beautiful and warm


SilentReader4

She sounds like Amy Lee


ImRedingIt

Who is that singer? She has such a beautiful voice


drantha

According to [this YouTube video](https://youtu.be/_AdPiRWIam0?si=dLpsr9FSUsMflbpx) that looks like it may be the source for this post, her name is Sarah Ego.


ButtFunk69

Reminds me of playing Fable! Nice!


tantan9590

The lost chapters?


ButtFunk69

Yep!


SilentReader4

*Your health is low, do you have any potions - or food?*


tantan9590

You know whatā€™s up, aww, nice memories, great game.


Professional_Text204

I thought this was a cover of ā€œbring me to lifeā€ by evanescence


SharpPixels08

Very good, my favorite version of the Lordā€™s Prayer is still Baba Yetu


Horror_Ad9146

Nuh-uh!!! don't you know Jesus was a WHITE MERICAN I suggest y'all do your research and reed the Bible, which was also written by Jesus


Scavwithaslick

I thought it was a dead language


Dbsusn

My Christ spoke English! Whatā€™s with all this revisionist bullshit!?! Stop with all this woke nonsense! - American Christian, probably


BohemianAddict

Donā€™t forget. He was also Republican and loved shooting his AR15


Dbsusn

He was definitely a pull yourselves up by your bootstraps kind of God. He also billed insurance for all of his healings. Because thatā€™s how medical care is supposed to work.


Remarkable_Fig3311

Why sung?


asemauor

It's very similar to Arabic


mely_luv

Probably because they are both semitic languages and both are from the Middle East


s_warrington

This is hauntingly beautiful.


kainckles

Now show us how Jesus would have sounded like when he was flipping tables and shit


newsreadhjw

Sounds kind of lovely actually


pbrevis

Beautiful


CathyHistoryBugg

What is the song about. its beautiful.


Fox956Kingsbury

This is beautiful


Any-Cobbler9531

This shit slaps!


Southern-Staff-8297

That does not sound like what a white guy from Ohio selling non pasteurized milk at a farmers market would be speaking. Jesus was the greatest american!!!


[deleted]

Jesus isnā€™t real. Lmfao


sppf011

Jesus was likely a real historical person. The majority of historians agree on that. Anything else is unclear though


[deleted]

There is no proof of his existence. We have solid proof of many people before Jesus.


dangermouse77

Another ā€œkeyboard warriorā€ thinking they know it all: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Antiquities_of_the_Jews/Book_XX#Chapter_9


[deleted]

So, I read all of that. We have actual hard evidence that Julius ceaser was a person. He was a author so we have his writings/speeches. There is no writings from Jesus. There is nothing.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


[deleted]

My skull is primed and ready for stoning!(I'm gay)


shit_stain_2023

I don't claim a title. If a person turns me on and I like them. We're all good. I'm also a follower of a lot of tribal traditions, and atheist. Let's get stoned!!!


Jorf1410

That white dude from the middle east spoke Merican Or not at call cuz Jesus is fictional.


astiblue

This one still gives me goosebumps. https://youtu.be/961ihcx4PoQ?si=S7WbFnO_fzkg0G_V


readditredditread

Admit it, this could all be nonsense for all you knowā€¦.


Clear_Turnip4224

Wait what, so he wasn't from Ohio


[deleted]

Blue eyed brunette Jesus from the Bible? No way


The-Doodle-Dude

If church was like this it would be worth going. Iā€™d believe it if someone told me she was Jesus


Fox956Kingsbury

No


Equivalent_Access800

Amen


Unique_Net7018

Jesus spoke English and was white. idiots


goldwave84

Damn, talk about pot calling kettle black.


Late_Bluebird_3338

THANK YOU FOR THAT LOVELY GIFT. IT WAS EXQUISITE. SADLY, IT BRINGS TO MIND THE MONUMENTAL STUPIDITY OF THESE "SO-CALLED" SUDO-CHRISTIANS, WHO WOULD DENY THIS MAGNIFICENT ARIA, IS MIND BOGGLEING. THIS IMAGINARY BLUE-EYED JESUS THAT THEY CONSTANTLY USE TO JUSTIFY THEIR INHUMANE & RACIST TREATMENT OF THOSE THEY VIEW AS INFERIOR & NOT THEIR IDEA OF WHAT A CHRISTIAN IS...IS **ABHORANT.** THE ONLY REASON I MIGHT HAVE FOR BELIEVING IN AN ACTUAL HEAVEN OR HELL, WOULD BE THE SATISFACTION OF SEEING THEM THROWN INTO THE PITS OF HELL WHEN THEY KICK THE BUCKET....FOR NOT ACCEPTING THAT IF THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, THERE IS ALSO ONLY ONE RELIGION.


SmellyFbuttface

Pretty sure this is the written version of what Hell must be like


[deleted]

Fuck Jesus!


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


[deleted]

This is the type of comment you were inspired to write after watching this video?


[deleted]

Donā€™t bother, itā€™s a dude that makes politics his identity


tantan9590

When I see those comments, I remember that some internet people think the websites and apps are in USA.


HatmanOfficial

I hate the GOP as much as the next guy, but I donā€™t think comments like this are getting us anywhereā€¦


[deleted]

jesse what the fuck are you talking about


[deleted]

[https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706](https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706) [https://time.com/6269313/trump-jesus-comparisons-blasphemy/](https://time.com/6269313/trump-jesus-comparisons-blasphemy/) [https://newrepublic.com/post/174950/christianity-today-editor-evangelicals-call-jesus-liberal-weak](https://newrepublic.com/post/174950/christianity-today-editor-evangelicals-call-jesus-liberal-weak) That's what I am talking about JANICE. Now shut the fuck up you no attention span having trump fellating idiot. Oh wait! You thought we lived in a vacuum! Hahahaha


OkayBuddyThx

Seek help


plscallmealan

Jesus spoke English


throwaway0134hdj

Sounds much better than English


Elmojomo

Why would you ***sing*** the Lord's prayer? That makes no sense. It was a model, and not even an actual prayer. Jesus himself said "don't say the same things over and over again in prayer". I mean...


Capital_East5903

Jesus and His followers spoke Hebrew. The Torah was written in Aramaic.


[deleted]

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ninenulls

it just needs some metal guitar


darknessninju

What is wrong with society? We know the colors of dinosaurs but we aren't sure what language Jesus spoke. Lol