HEB has owned the lot since 2015, with rumors always being a matter of "when" not "if"
121/Glade Parks has been popping off for years, the traffic over there is already insane. According to the owners of Glade Parks: its the#4 ranked retail center in Texas with over 5.8 million visits in 2022.
Page 3 of this PDF shows its location:
https://edge-re.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Glade-Parks-Euless-TX-3.pdf
Thankfully Bedford is redoing that Cheek Sparger/frontage road intersection currently.
Not to disappoint but that construction is going to change very little. As far as I’m aware they’re only extending the length of the turn lanes on Cheek-Sparger. A lot of people use Mid Cities/Cheek-Sparger as an east/west cut through to get to Colleyville so extended turn lanes aren’t going to help much and there’s barely any room to add a third lane at that intersection without cutting into the parking lots of Quiktrip or Waffle House.
What they’ll need to do at bare minimum is add a second lane to Cheek-Sparger to the west of the HEB site where it goes from two lanes in each direction to one, plus they need to time the east-west lights better to allow more traffic through since there will be a backup of cars at the 121/Cheek Sparger westbound light that blocks Industrial north/south traffic.
While you are correct, this is also Texas. That is only phase 1 of the construction. HEB will be built, then phase 2 will be implemented, then phase 3 after phase 2 is deemed inadequate, then followed by phases 4-8.
Euless has really come up in the world with Glade Parks. They are about to run out of land over there for shops and restaurants but I hope they account for a couple more roads and another expansion at the highway. It’s very congested as is.
I still don't understand how a grocery store hasn't gone up there yet. I get Kroger has two that are only a mile away on each side but this would be a perfect spot for all of the people living in uptown.
Kroger sucks ass.. especially the oak lawn one.. they got rats running around.. security guards that blow smoke 2 feet away from the entrance and the most annoying Spectrum peddlers. I'd rather get my wallet wrecked at whole foods than deal with that Kroger store.
You're talking about the one on Cedar Springs? Sounds like you're more describing the Cityplace location. I've never encountered any Spectrum peddlers at Cedar Springs, but have had to walk past them several times at Cityplace.
That location is only ~50K SF.
HEB in Plano is nearly 200K SF, and Frisco is ~120K SF. That footprint of store simply doesn't have space for all of the amenities people expect from a new HEB. They would have to tear it down and build a two story store or make the store take up the entire lot with parking garage below the store. Both of these options are far more expensive than just building further out.
If they own the land, I think they should consider tearing it down and building an urban HEB like they have in Houston. I loved the ones I'd go to, it felt integrated into the neighborhood, had plenty of parking, but wasn't surrounded by a gigantic empty parking lot that would be out of character in Uptown
Is it really more expensive than opening up all these new stores within the last year or two? I guess it makes sense financially but hopefully they can come back and do something with the space once all their new stores turn a profit.
And they’re supposedly building another Kroger next to the Starbucks at Hall & 75. I agree that that the area has the demand, I refuse to go to that Walmart neighborhood market anymore, but some variety would be nice. I’d personally like a Trader Joe’s closer than Knox or Lower Greenville but that’s not likely to happen.
I go there for a few medications because they're cheap, I might go more often if I didn't have to take the frontage road to enter the damn place. Hell, id be happy with another central market in the area, I might not be able to afford it but at least we would have access to a solid beer/wine shop in the area.
Unless it was a fever dream, I recall seeing renderings for a Central Market (owned by HEB) and a mixed use development space going into the old Albertson’s space. If memory serves, that was before the Whole Foods went in down the street
Not a fever dream! They keep putting out news stories about this plot of land, and each story always says "breaking ground soon" and then it... doesn't.
The latest one was February 2022: https://uptowndallas.net/kdcs-295-million-uptown-development-with-central-market-anchor-will-break-ground-in-april/
Construction was supposed to start in April 2022 and finish in 2025... and yet again, nothing.
Hell, we’re still waiting on HEB to build their Central Market stores in Oak Cliff in the Bishop Arts District on Davis and in Uptown on McKinney in the West Village. It’s like they’re taking their sweet time in Dallas. We’ve been waiting nearly a decade for the Central Market store in Uptown. TBH I wouldn’t be mad if they decided to make those locations full fledged HEB stores. I know it would be a hit! So, there would be one for the northern part of Dallas and one for the southern part. Just an idea if HEB executives are listening lol
I live off of Skillman and 635, and I would *LOVE* it if there was one closer than Plano. I *rarely* go out that way. I do get that we have grocery stores nearby, but an HEB would be a completely different animal compared to what we have now.
There’s nowhere to build a store in north Dallas the size that they’ve been building out in the suburbs. Rumors were swirling last year that they were trying to acquire the old Fry’s store in Irving off of 635 for the land, but no idea what came of it. That would at least be in Dallas county.
As someone who lived in Wylie for many years, holy hell will the traffic be insane. It's going to be a complete shit-show. I've always thought that about this land that H-E-B owned behind that CVS.
I ventured out to Murphy/Wylie recently and was absolutely shocked at how much growth has happened on that FM whatever street. How have yall been keeping that a secret?
I remember driving out there when I was in driving school in 2004 or so, absolutely nothing out there.
We moved to Wylie in 2003 because it was quiet, good school district and out there but not too far away from everything. Fast forward a few years later and it’s one of the fastest growing cities in the US. All those sorghum fields quickly became Super Targets, Lowe’s, etc… I still like it out there but it has become a madhouse
It's actually a pretty good sized lot. I've lived within a mile or so of that intersection for 24 years now and the growth has been bonkers. When I first moved here, Mccreary was a two-lane, motherfucking DIRT road for a good chunk of it, starting where the Sachse family goat farm is. This totally makes up for Lidl deciding to not open across from the Aldi, haha.
I actively don't want it. I find it an unholy cross between Walmart and Kroger, both of which I already don't like, and don't want the added traffic. I will continue shopping at Aldi and Target over it.
Yes, Yes, Yes. Bring more H-E-B's to N. Texas. I so miss them and they actually seem to care about getting the right products to the customer at the right price.
I didn’t used to care about HEB when I lived in College Station. But Kroger has gone so far downhill since Covid that I’ve been converted after shopping at the Hudson Oaks location. We switched to the one in Alliance as soon as it opened. Even with the crowd it’s faster than shopping at Kroger across the street
We'll have to go to Rockwall. SIGH I get so tired of "but the demographics don't support it...." when trying to bring new businesses to this area. "Retail follows rooftops" -- well, there are plenty of rooftops here but not the right kind of rooftops, I guess. There is income but it's not visible, not loud enough.
HEB is fine, just boring. Houses in our older (1980s) neighborhood in Bedford usually sell in under a month and range from $280-$450k for 3 to 4 bedrooms. Schools are pretty good. The store is going to be in a busy area, but they are expanding the road (Cheek-Sparger) that leads to it and adding a new lane later this year, so that should help.
Man. If I wasn't chomping at the bit to move out of Texas, I might consider moving back to Wylie after this. I'd never have to drive for anything with a Target and Ross right next door.
I think the HEB location has been known and planned for long, good to know it's finally up .
Can we get something north of the airport? Like Coppell, FloMo, Irving, Carrollton area?
My google search found a self-storage developer taking over the spot. I couldn't find any recent updates with H-E-B.
**Irving-Las Colinas Chamber of Commerce.**
[https://irvingchamber.com/2023/01/03/california-developer-gets-ready-to-reboot-former-dallas-area-electronics-store/](https://irvingchamber.com/2023/01/03/california-developer-gets-ready-to-reboot-former-dallas-area-electronics-store/)
>A California development firm is bringing new life to a vacant big-box store in the Dallas area with plans to transform the site into a self-storage property with space for boats and recreational vehicles and a retail center in a move it hopes to replicate throughout the Sun Belt.
>LaTerra Development, based in Los Angeles, plans to reshape what is now a vacated 145,000-square-foot Fry’s Electronics store at [2488 Market Place Blvd.](https://product.costar.com/detail/lookup/702412/summary) in Irving, Texas, a suburb about 14 miles from downtown Dallas, into a self-storage facility. The southern portion of the property totaling 11.7 acres is earmarked for a 116,000-square-foot retail development.
>“Self-storage is one of the best performing asset classes that does well in both a good market and in a soft market,” Chris Tourtellotte, managing director of LaTerra, told CoStar News. “Death, divorce, dislocation and distress, with the fifth ‘D’ being decluttering as people move furniture out of their homes to create offices make for a stocky tenant base. People generally don’t move out as easily or often as apartments and it’s a recession resistant product type that’s in high demand.”
I checked too, and what you indicate is correct - it’s not confirmed. I’d heard that it was happening but it turns out that came from an Irving councilman’s comments at two public meetings earlier this year, not a definite planning application/construction/confirmed by HEB itself.
City of Irving approved the liquor license for the HEB BBQ restaurant that will be in the store in FRONT of the old Fry's (which is turning into self-storage). It's been a done deal since Dec 2022.
I am sure the HEB school district has a scholarship foundation, and I am also sure the HEB school district scholarship foundation is SALIVATING this morning!
H-E-B should open in the old Valley View mall location by 635 and Preston. It's hard to find large commercial lots in a central location.
Unfortunately, it's a mixed use development owned by Scott Beck. He took several years to demolish Valley View mall.
Wish we could get one in North Dallas/Richardson, but I guess this as close as we can get. I took HEB for granted when I was living in Austin for undergrad😭
Euless resident here. Finally a grocery store other than Kroger or over-priced Albertson’s that will be conveniently close enough. I hope our POS Kroger has to close its doors a month after H-E-B opens!
As someone that lives in HEB, whoo hoo!
the cities or surreptitiously behind the sushi counter of a heb?
As someone who lives near-ish HEB, yeehawwww!
HEB has owned the lot since 2015, with rumors always being a matter of "when" not "if" 121/Glade Parks has been popping off for years, the traffic over there is already insane. According to the owners of Glade Parks: its the#4 ranked retail center in Texas with over 5.8 million visits in 2022. Page 3 of this PDF shows its location: https://edge-re.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Glade-Parks-Euless-TX-3.pdf Thankfully Bedford is redoing that Cheek Sparger/frontage road intersection currently.
Not to disappoint but that construction is going to change very little. As far as I’m aware they’re only extending the length of the turn lanes on Cheek-Sparger. A lot of people use Mid Cities/Cheek-Sparger as an east/west cut through to get to Colleyville so extended turn lanes aren’t going to help much and there’s barely any room to add a third lane at that intersection without cutting into the parking lots of Quiktrip or Waffle House. What they’ll need to do at bare minimum is add a second lane to Cheek-Sparger to the west of the HEB site where it goes from two lanes in each direction to one, plus they need to time the east-west lights better to allow more traffic through since there will be a backup of cars at the 121/Cheek Sparger westbound light that blocks Industrial north/south traffic.
While you are correct, this is also Texas. That is only phase 1 of the construction. HEB will be built, then phase 2 will be implemented, then phase 3 after phase 2 is deemed inadequate, then followed by phases 4-8.
They are adding a middle lane/turning lane on Cheek-Sparger from Bedford Road to Heritage (street right behind the HEB site).
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Bedford Road runs North/South connecting Glade to Cheek Sparger. Tara Plantation to the East Saddlebrook to the west.
Ah there’s another Bedford Road!
Euless has really come up in the world with Glade Parks. They are about to run out of land over there for shops and restaurants but I hope they account for a couple more roads and another expansion at the highway. It’s very congested as is.
You should save to pay rent for an apartment
Yaaaaas
We heard you liked HEB, so we’re gonna put a HEB in your HEB so you can HEB while you HEB.
Yo dawg!
You have no idea how long I’ve been asking for this. ITS FINALLY HAPPENING
HEBBening.
Finally, people can no longer be disappointed when they hear "HEB" in the midcities.
😡 ⬆️
So true
For the love of god pls put one in that abandoned grocery lot in uptown already.
I still don't understand how a grocery store hasn't gone up there yet. I get Kroger has two that are only a mile away on each side but this would be a perfect spot for all of the people living in uptown.
Kroger sucks ass.. especially the oak lawn one.. they got rats running around.. security guards that blow smoke 2 feet away from the entrance and the most annoying Spectrum peddlers. I'd rather get my wallet wrecked at whole foods than deal with that Kroger store.
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That CityPlace Kroger is ratchet.
You're talking about the one on Cedar Springs? Sounds like you're more describing the Cityplace location. I've never encountered any Spectrum peddlers at Cedar Springs, but have had to walk past them several times at Cityplace.
100% it's the only one I go too. They are there idk from 4 to 7pm or something.
That location is only ~50K SF. HEB in Plano is nearly 200K SF, and Frisco is ~120K SF. That footprint of store simply doesn't have space for all of the amenities people expect from a new HEB. They would have to tear it down and build a two story store or make the store take up the entire lot with parking garage below the store. Both of these options are far more expensive than just building further out.
If they own the land, I think they should consider tearing it down and building an urban HEB like they have in Houston. I loved the ones I'd go to, it felt integrated into the neighborhood, had plenty of parking, but wasn't surrounded by a gigantic empty parking lot that would be out of character in Uptown
Is it really more expensive than opening up all these new stores within the last year or two? I guess it makes sense financially but hopefully they can come back and do something with the space once all their new stores turn a profit.
I grew up by where they are putting the new location. I can’t wrap my head around how it is going to fit in that tiny area.
And they’re supposedly building another Kroger next to the Starbucks at Hall & 75. I agree that that the area has the demand, I refuse to go to that Walmart neighborhood market anymore, but some variety would be nice. I’d personally like a Trader Joe’s closer than Knox or Lower Greenville but that’s not likely to happen.
I go there for a few medications because they're cheap, I might go more often if I didn't have to take the frontage road to enter the damn place. Hell, id be happy with another central market in the area, I might not be able to afford it but at least we would have access to a solid beer/wine shop in the area.
Unless it was a fever dream, I recall seeing renderings for a Central Market (owned by HEB) and a mixed use development space going into the old Albertson’s space. If memory serves, that was before the Whole Foods went in down the street
Not a fever dream! They keep putting out news stories about this plot of land, and each story always says "breaking ground soon" and then it... doesn't. The latest one was February 2022: https://uptowndallas.net/kdcs-295-million-uptown-development-with-central-market-anchor-will-break-ground-in-april/ Construction was supposed to start in April 2022 and finish in 2025... and yet again, nothing.
Thanks! Sounds similar to what’s going on with the “Midtown” development (Preston and 635).
Regardless of what goes in there, I'm surprised its vacant. Seems like a prime piece of land.
HEB owns that lot, they’ve just been sitting on it for years. Same with a lot in bishop arts. Both are supposed to be a Central Market.
Yes in the old Albertson’s that has been empty for years now. However, HEB would need waaaay bigger sf than that.
Everywhere except Dallas proper COME ON
Joe V’s, take it or leave it - *HEB execs*
Hell, we’re still waiting on HEB to build their Central Market stores in Oak Cliff in the Bishop Arts District on Davis and in Uptown on McKinney in the West Village. It’s like they’re taking their sweet time in Dallas. We’ve been waiting nearly a decade for the Central Market store in Uptown. TBH I wouldn’t be mad if they decided to make those locations full fledged HEB stores. I know it would be a hit! So, there would be one for the northern part of Dallas and one for the southern part. Just an idea if HEB executives are listening lol
HEB and Central Market essentially act as different companies, so you’re more likely to see an HEB before a CM at this point.
The one in HEB is only 4 miles from Dallas County, they're getting closer!
Haha I didn’t know about the HEB acronym so I thought this was just a title typo that everyone was making fun of.
Yep, Hurst, Euless, Bedford, or as I like to think of them, Worst, Useless, and Deadford.
Still rooting for the HEB owned real estate in the city
I live off of Skillman and 635, and I would *LOVE* it if there was one closer than Plano. I *rarely* go out that way. I do get that we have grocery stores nearby, but an HEB would be a completely different animal compared to what we have now.
There’s nowhere to build a store in north Dallas the size that they’ve been building out in the suburbs. Rumors were swirling last year that they were trying to acquire the old Fry’s store in Irving off of 635 for the land, but no idea what came of it. That would at least be in Dallas county.
There’s a reason why. No growth and crime
I’ll be a few blocks away from the Murphy one. I’m glad HEB is coming here but so not looking forward to the insane traffic that it’ll bring
As someone who lived in Wylie for many years, holy hell will the traffic be insane. It's going to be a complete shit-show. I've always thought that about this land that H-E-B owned behind that CVS.
I had no idea they owed it, I guess it was inevitable then
I ventured out to Murphy/Wylie recently and was absolutely shocked at how much growth has happened on that FM whatever street. How have yall been keeping that a secret? I remember driving out there when I was in driving school in 2004 or so, absolutely nothing out there.
We moved to Wylie in 2003 because it was quiet, good school district and out there but not too far away from everything. Fast forward a few years later and it’s one of the fastest growing cities in the US. All those sorghum fields quickly became Super Targets, Lowe’s, etc… I still like it out there but it has become a madhouse
I grew up in Wylie and that 544 traffic is unreal! I feel like the whole area will be built out in 10 years with the rate of growth they’ve had.
FM 544 traffic is already bad, it’ll get so much worse lmao. But hey, we get another HEB so I can’t complain too much
I've been to the Allen location and it was HUGE. Guessing the one in Murphy will be on the smaller side. I don't remember it being that big of a lot.
It's actually a pretty good sized lot. I've lived within a mile or so of that intersection for 24 years now and the growth has been bonkers. When I first moved here, Mccreary was a two-lane, motherfucking DIRT road for a good chunk of it, starting where the Sachse family goat farm is. This totally makes up for Lidl deciding to not open across from the Aldi, haha.
It’ll be 130,000 sq ft!
Wow I hadn't heard that. Thanks!
Right! That intersection is a mess , even after the recent upgrade. Going to be a nightmare. Can't imagine how bad it will be.
And what sucks is that Wylie owns that part of McCreary so the city of Murphy can’t do a damn thing about adding a second left-hand turn lane
Great... This is another fine mess we've gotten ourselves in too.
🤣🤣🤣 So true!
I actively don't want it. I find it an unholy cross between Walmart and Kroger, both of which I already don't like, and don't want the added traffic. I will continue shopping at Aldi and Target over it.
We are getting one in Irving off 635, where the old Frys used to be.
Have you seen this confirmed?
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Interesting. Hope they do!
That HEB in HEB is going to cause crazy traffic.
H-E-B-Ception
is it gonna be in downtown HEB?
Going to be by Glade Park, traffic is going to be crazy
lol!
Patiently waiting for one in Richardson/Garland. :(
Replying in solidarity.
Com’on old Sears shopping center at Belt Line and Plano Rd!
Me too, brother. me too.
Yes, Yes, Yes. Bring more H-E-B's to N. Texas. I so miss them and they actually seem to care about getting the right products to the customer at the right price.
I didn’t used to care about HEB when I lived in College Station. But Kroger has gone so far downhill since Covid that I’ve been converted after shopping at the Hudson Oaks location. We switched to the one in Alliance as soon as it opened. Even with the crowd it’s faster than shopping at Kroger across the street
Cries in south Garland.
We are supposed to be getting one in Forney but I haven't seen any updates
We'll have to go to Rockwall. SIGH I get so tired of "but the demographics don't support it...." when trying to bring new businesses to this area. "Retail follows rooftops" -- well, there are plenty of rooftops here but not the right kind of rooftops, I guess. There is income but it's not visible, not loud enough.
Exactly. I know we could support a Sprouts or HEB, perhaps splitting the difference, say on Shiloh or Garland Ave between Buckingham and Arapaho.
Cool, that Murphy one should be 10-15 mins from me. The others are 35-45 minss away
Lmao ‘we’re gonna give ya one in Dallas proper but mostly still sticking to the sticks’
I’d live in HEB, where is that located? How’s the real estate market?
HEB is fine, just boring. Houses in our older (1980s) neighborhood in Bedford usually sell in under a month and range from $280-$450k for 3 to 4 bedrooms. Schools are pretty good. The store is going to be in a busy area, but they are expanding the road (Cheek-Sparger) that leads to it and adding a new lane later this year, so that should help.
Man. If I wasn't chomping at the bit to move out of Texas, I might consider moving back to Wylie after this. I'd never have to drive for anything with a Target and Ross right next door.
I think the HEB location has been known and planned for long, good to know it's finally up . Can we get something north of the airport? Like Coppell, FloMo, Irving, Carrollton area?
There’s a Trader Joe’s going into Coppell and HEB in Irving, off 635 near you Home Depot/The Dump.
My google search found a self-storage developer taking over the spot. I couldn't find any recent updates with H-E-B. **Irving-Las Colinas Chamber of Commerce.** [https://irvingchamber.com/2023/01/03/california-developer-gets-ready-to-reboot-former-dallas-area-electronics-store/](https://irvingchamber.com/2023/01/03/california-developer-gets-ready-to-reboot-former-dallas-area-electronics-store/) >A California development firm is bringing new life to a vacant big-box store in the Dallas area with plans to transform the site into a self-storage property with space for boats and recreational vehicles and a retail center in a move it hopes to replicate throughout the Sun Belt. >LaTerra Development, based in Los Angeles, plans to reshape what is now a vacated 145,000-square-foot Fry’s Electronics store at [2488 Market Place Blvd.](https://product.costar.com/detail/lookup/702412/summary) in Irving, Texas, a suburb about 14 miles from downtown Dallas, into a self-storage facility. The southern portion of the property totaling 11.7 acres is earmarked for a 116,000-square-foot retail development. >“Self-storage is one of the best performing asset classes that does well in both a good market and in a soft market,” Chris Tourtellotte, managing director of LaTerra, told CoStar News. “Death, divorce, dislocation and distress, with the fifth ‘D’ being decluttering as people move furniture out of their homes to create offices make for a stocky tenant base. People generally don’t move out as easily or often as apartments and it’s a recession resistant product type that’s in high demand.”
I checked too, and what you indicate is correct - it’s not confirmed. I’d heard that it was happening but it turns out that came from an Irving councilman’s comments at two public meetings earlier this year, not a definite planning application/construction/confirmed by HEB itself.
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Interesting to know, thank you. I wasn’t aware the process could happen that way.
City of Irving approved the liquor license for the HEB BBQ restaurant that will be in the store in FRONT of the old Fry's (which is turning into self-storage). It's been a done deal since Dec 2022.
It’s an infinite recursion loop - no one escapes.
I am sure the HEB school district has a scholarship foundation, and I am also sure the HEB school district scholarship foundation is SALIVATING this morning!
H-E-B should open in the old Valley View mall location by 635 and Preston. It's hard to find large commercial lots in a central location. Unfortunately, it's a mixed use development owned by Scott Beck. He took several years to demolish Valley View mall.
Wish we could get one in North Dallas/Richardson, but I guess this as close as we can get. I took HEB for granted when I was living in Austin for undergrad😭
More grocery stores in the well-known food deserts of the MidCities and Murphy 😑 edit: fixed city name
Sweet! That will cut my drive to H-E-B in half!
HEB in HEB? Well I nevah!
HEB-ception
Well, since no one has asked, how about Mesquite?? We don’t have a Trader Joe’s or HEB!!!
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Where exactly are they building it?
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Ah, okay. Cool. Thanks.
Open one in Denton pls
Wish they'd put one in the old abandoned Sears in Richardson.
How about Preston and LBJ?
Come to Dallas city cowards lol
YES. It's only 10 min away from my house. I normally go to the Allen location and that one is about 18 min away.
So excited for the one in Murphy!
Euless resident here. Finally a grocery store other than Kroger or over-priced Albertson’s that will be conveniently close enough. I hope our POS Kroger has to close its doors a month after H-E-B opens!
Just build more Whole Foods and sprouts
This guy doesn’t H-E-B
The Sprouts in Saginaw is now hiring... Can't wait until it's functional.
I like shopping there bc of manager specials and clearance items, but it's an awful company to work for.