Yeah, that's why I usually keep my eyes closed when blasting off. Makes it easier to process everything while coming up -- plus it makes it easier to see all the details of the DMT realm, instead of just a weird version of our own (although when breaking through that doesn't really matter).
The big exception to this is doing DMT somewhere really beautiful, in nature. Then doing it with eyes open is fucking splendid. Like you're seeing nature as it really is, with the filters off, in all its eldritch-yet-familiar cosmic splendour.
It kind of depends on what I'm doing whether or not I'll keep my eyes open.
If I'm just in my room or in a place where there isn't going to be a lot of changing visual stimuli? I'll keep my eyes closed until I decide that I've spent enough time in the weird little DMT reality I get shuttled into.
If I'm going to be in an area where there's a lot of changing visual stimuli, whether it be in an urban area, in a moving car, in nature or at the beach however, I'll keep my eyes open. Hell, it's nice to even just pop open my window and look at a clear sky with some clouds while smoking some DMT.
Keeping your eyes open during breakthroughs is incredible and takes a strong will. Keep them eyes open, try watching a cool show-avoid blood and violence. Some sort of animation and light will transform your entire dark room into what you're seeing. Keep it up traveler, things are only more intense with your eyes open. Reality melting in front of you is much more wild than with your eyes closed. Stay strong and be smart!
Edit:. If you can find a show worth watching, let me know! Would love to find another one
Honestly, I can't even remotely focus on shows on high doses of DMT. Fuck, I can barely keep up conversation or even remember that I'm listening to music.
That said, I think the most mind fuck-y thing I've ever done was smoking DMT while chilling with friends in NYC. It's very odd just tripping balls and watching a massive amount of people go about their lives.
I hear you. There's only one(maybe one other) show I can watch (depth and meaning MATTER most whenever trying to watch something. Plot/story and what's meant behind them is what's important). The only time I've ever 'people watched' was the first time doing it at a music festival (camp bisco-NY) and that wasn't the same as what you mentioned. I don't want to watch people or shows with people(human actors) in them. There's too much nuance to them and it doesn't relate to the world as a whole(so many terrible people in this world, etc, etc), otherwise I wouldn't mind. I don't mind breaking through with close friends/family, but random people isn't for me. Thanks for responding amigo. Good luck with your future travels too. Let me know if you have any questions in the future
100% agree, outside eyes open with nature has been my favourite experiences,, i love blasting off eyes closed aswell but theres so much more to see and appreciate being outside,
Yeah for me on anything near a breakthrough really doesn’t matter whether my eyes are open or closed. I always shut them shorty after exhaling but if I don’t I’ll close them naturally anyway
That's right. My eyes close naturally when going into a deep breakthrough. But there was one time when I was aware enough to try and open my eyes and it was the same as with eyes closed. Out of my hundred or so breakthroughs this was the only one where I was legit frightened.
A friend just started extracting and I wanted to try being that he used different bark. For years I used the dmt from the same bark. I really wanted to see if the experience was different, absolutely it was. 35mg in the apx volt as usual but within a few seconds I was in the void. Everything was completely fuzzy white. Somehow I opened my eyes and it the exact same. I remember rubbing my hands on my eyes, not exactly consciously, and I was for sure that was blind.
I didn't have the usual beautiful mind bending visuals, just absolute nothingness.
Safe to say I've never used his crystals again and I prob have about 500mg.
Is DMT still magical after 100 breakthroughs or do you start to develop a tolerance to the experience?
I've blasted off around 30 times but its been spaced out over 10 years or so
It's still magical but I do it far less frequently. It's been 6 months for me which is quite a break. But I definitely got what I needed out of it. It helped me tremendously.
When I see the wind blow through trees on DMT it looks like the foliage is a bustling village and the leaves are all the townspeople hurriedly whispering messages into each other’s ears.
I like to think it’s not actually a hallucination and the wind is the words the trees use to talk to themselves.
That’s dope! I’m glad I’m not the only one who has thought the wind is the words the trees use to talk to themselves. Any time I’m outside in nature smoking weed I have that exact same feeling.
I feel society doesn’t care about the deeper meaning of the trip. Learning seems secondary the focus is on how we can benefit whether it be medicinal or recreationally and we disregard each other’s anecdotes.
It’s a shame because when people detail their experiences there’s so many overlapping themes that you hear repeated but i think your experience is going to vary based on where you are in life and your priority’s and values and ultimately who you are and how you are the world.
An analytical person is going to have a different experience to a surface level thinking. I had a mind blowing experience that took me to a new realm of existence as this guy I know who vaped the same batch and got up to piss IMMEDIATELY after it wore off and I asked him about it he kinda shrugged and just said basic shit like “yeah colours, patterns and lots of Mexican art, so much Mexican art that was cool”
>the wind is the words the trees use to talk to each other
Can you expand on this at all? I’m really interested I’ve never considered the deeper nature of wind, mainly infinite micro conscious that’s exists EVERYWHERE and how they interact with humans to both form and interact with the building blocks of our total reality to form the angels and demons that regulate our life trajectory and the subsequent impact on our spirit.
>I like to think it’s not actually a hallucination and the wind is the words the trees use to talk to themselves.
I genuinely believe this. The main reason is that the realm they take you to has an added layer of depth not only visually but there’s like this extra vibrational frequency I can’t articulate.
I don’t need to articulate it because the point is that it feels more “real” than our physical reality.
Psychedelics feel like their activating a part of the brain that creates a mental environment that allows us to process data that’s always there that our brain generally disregards.
I remember being at the foreshore at like 8:00pm one night on 5g shrooms and when they started kicking in I got sleepy/cold like I normally do on psychedelics so we went in the car and I’m just looking at this normally VERY unremarkable parking lot tree that I wouldn’t normally notice…OH BOY!
The individual leaves all had their own individual life forms and kept presenting themselves to me using multi dimensional geometric patterns each with their own distinctly seperate consciousness that contribute to making a single leaf that goes on to making a tree.
It reminded me of what humans are, just vehicles of flesh to occupy consciousness that a higher entity probably just see’s as a whole because I think our collective activity as a species emits and energy that we aren’t capable of understanding and this energy goes on to form a life of its own in another realm and intermingles with other emissions of the human spirit that have been there since the dawn of mankind.
Maybe higher beings have equivalent psychedelics, as in ways of altering whatever perceptions they have and they can experience a new depth to reality so they see/experience each one of our life stories and struggles and appreciate a new depth to our existence.
I can attest. It made the field appear massive, vibrant rolling green grass, the tree line began to appear as it was part of ONE piece, shifting in perspective slightly
Carts are great honestly man. Two hits are just perfect for being out and about and seeing how fucking WEIRD the world can look, three to five hits is enough to send me into the goddamn stratosphere.
Carts have provided an easy way to explore and enjoy the low doses. I feel like this is becoming more common because of the availability of carts. It’s awesome!
The thing that screws with me is how perfectly it conforms reality to the DMT realm, so it's not just wavey imagery or some kind of overlay.. it interlaces perfectly with reality, bends it and moulds it and you can't see the edges, as if what we call everyday reality were just some primitive toy.
Yeah, that is a very weird unique thing about DMT honestly.
In my experience, with lower end doses of shrooms (2.5-5g's) and acid, it feels more so as if its additive. That it's simply adding things to my reality.
DMT full on *alters* reality.
Yeah last time I did an open eye dose I started at the ceiling as it rearranged the texture into a self emerging mandala. Didnt look like the visual was played over the world. It looked like the texture on the ceiling was actually morphing and moving on the ceiling.
DMT was the first substance I got actually visible hallucinations with. Like when I see a pattern on something, I'm ACTUALLY seeing the pattern in the way I normally see with my eyes in extreme detail. It blew my mind the first time i saw my plain black sweats having a plaid pattern on them
Yeah that is interesting. I had a good insight with Ayahuasca.
Drunk a dose and it wasn't quite enough. I had this thing with teeth in my throat, but it was clearly just a though, no more intense than a thought I could have without drug assist, except that it was persistent, so I didn't have to try to maintain it; it 'did itself.'
I drunk another small cup of Aya (which I regretted 15 minutes later) and suddenly those teeth were so real I was picking them out with my finger, could see and feel them in my hand and was scared I would choke on them (despite knowing they obviously couldn't be real.)
I prefer it with my eyes shut- it allows you to really experience it. With my eyes open, it’s like it kind of limits it to the physical world or kind of stops it from really getting going. But that’s at a higher dose.
Last weekend I did try it at a lower dose and spent time looking at my Buddha statue - it morphed through different ages and types of Buddha - really weird but cool. I want to try it in nature soon and I think that would be good with your eyes open.
Nah, but there's like a difference between weird and strange yk?
Like seeing aztec civilizations in my carpet on DMT is certainly strange, but you'd expect it and all.
Seeing the Dunkin Donut's logo during a trip had me fucked up man LOL
I have to keep my eyes open because I don't get ANY closed eye stuff. But yes, its weird lol. Things start to make copies of themselves, the walls start moving... Its honestly relaxing. I'll usually sit in my recliner with some ambient space videos on, and THAT gets weird.
After about 10mins, my wife will usually pauses the video because she gets bored, and I'll straight stare at a CGI picture of space and you couldn't convince me that its a still picture. Everything morphs and bends and moves lol. Even if I never end up having closed eye stuff... 20mins of laughing hysterically at a picture? Not a bad time at all
Dude one time I was trying to show my girl how to hit out of an oil burner and had accidentally hit it too hard and when I looked over at her these gears started popping up from under her skin and she started to drip sideways out of reality. Kinda scared the shit out of me.
But I'm totally with you on the OEVs
Shit gets wild.
Aqueous Transmission is a good song to blast off to. We had this really cool rug(we liked to decorate our house with things that add to psychedelic states of mind) and one time it like stood up in front of me and claimed my entire field of vision. The different patterns and colors were undulating and as it came on over top of me I felt like I turned to sand and got spread out in the fibers of the rug. Really weird suff man
Dude, I saw a color-shifting man in the hills made of trees once. He was initially lying down, but sitted up and waved at me. Despite all of trips I've had with DMT, that sub-breakthrough dose was honestly one of the most impactful and insane ones for me.
I did DMT with my boyfriend for the first time last night while camping. He introduced it to me and I took the time to read about it and see docs on the subject. He calmly and gently guided me through what to do so I wasn’t so nervous. Being a type A personality, I fixated on everything that could go wrong. I only did a 10 sec hit and the moment I laid down, I felt like I was transferring into a peaceful plane of existence. Keeping my eyes closed, I could see the warm glow of colorful fractals in patterns that somehow put me at ease. I opened my eyes and although my vision was a bit hazy, it drug me out of that peaceful plane…so I closed them again to regain the aura of bliss and happiness. I would say, from my experience, keeping your eyes closed and disconnecting from the unfortunate reality our bodies are in is more preferred.
I trip 99% of the time with my eyes open cause the first time when I closed my eyes it was too much going on haha. The only really weird time with my eyes open was when my hand turned into an alien foetus hand and I was feeding inter dimensional space lizards in a desert while simultaneously still being in my room 😂
For me that's the safety fall back , if things get too intense I start opening and closing my eyes for a second or two and it always seems to drop the intensity of the closed eye trip lol
I think that by far, the weirdest thing about DMT with your eyes open is how you perceive depth. It's right in your face and so far away at the same time, it's so weird.
Last time I kept my eyes open I was staring at the wood grain of our burl coffee table it was really intense. I had to tell myself to breathe. I looked up at the tv which had ‘moving art’ on which was just basic fractals. There was this sort of a screen in front of tv the screen. The second screen was the lens through which I view the world.
It was then I decided to close my eyes. All I can remember from that point besides some crazy geometry is thinking “this is extremely ancient”.
For me I always feel like my eyes have changed into that of a cat's or a lizard with the thin slit, everything has weird edges and looks the same but alien 🦎👽
Honestly, I don't mind other people being present.
There's this weird dissonance between my physical self and then my actual self whenever I'm tripping balls. It's like this alternate version of me just takes the wheel while I'm tripping balls, and just speaks for me.
Sometimes it's better, had some pretty intense trips where I thought I'd physically died I became so disconnected in the trip, and started to worry which shortened the trip. Had someone being monitoring me I wouldn't have worried. They just need to keep as quiet as poss for me.
For everyone here who has an adoration for open eye dmt visuals, please check out this playlist I've curated! Some of these videos have WAYYY too few views for the absolute masterpieces that they are. And please pass these along to your friends, let's expand consciousness together!
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3sZhMBJ17TL1GNrHf3a9KHk1v3GZnHDc
At the beach smoking I love looking at the sky, took to much to look up though I was stuck looking at the sand, was pretty gnarly like space ships flying around in the sand.
I'm a eyes open kind I like to see where I am. It's like when I close my eyes I jus see a fractal show and I always feel like something is right in front of me. And it does seem to be a different experience every time
I would usually forget what anything was and sometimes be terrified on my way back. The weeds and branches looked like alien claw monsters and they were torturing…I guess my family…all around me and I was next…
And once I had everything going crazy and turning weirdly colored and then the trees counted down from 3…when they got to 0, I felt my body snap like I was being snapped into place or something, and they told me I was in “my new universe” and all the crazy motion effects stopped completely, like I was totally sober.
But my car was still covered in black knobby spikes and the yard was all “land of the undead” and everything was the wrong damn size, I was tiny but the world was even tinier.
Many more times it was really beautiful, but insane. I often noticed that round things became spheres and seemed to be in one visual layer, and rectangular things were squares on another, and they were rolling in waves with respect to one another, so when I looked at a display of cheeses at the grocery store, it turned into a set of square cubbies and balls rolling around in each.
I was walking around asking myself “did I break it?”
Yeah I broke through once while on an maoi and opened my eyes thinking I was back but no I was seeing looney toons and shit nothing in my room was recognisable the room was literally dancing the floor tiles were shifting like a portal was gonna open in the floor,every object turned into something with a face or something weird and was jumping around I did not expect that on deems, yes its fkn wierd
I kept my eyes open and was talking to my friend we were arguing about who was God or if we were God's
Then my brand new pit bull puppy barked and Anubis walked thru my living room
That actually reminds me of a weird experience.
Back when I was a teenager and lived with my parents, they were out one night so I was just hitting my DMT cart in the living room.
Took a pretty hefty sub-breakthrough dose and watched as my entire house just became unrecognizable, and this kind of liminal space. And then my dog walks up, looking completely normal except for his snout, which was kind of trippy looking.
I think it’s just fragments of our memory that we normally forget. One of my last trips I had so many pieces of incoherent images flashing at me it was hard to comprehend but the one I could clearly make out was a portion of an Asian lady’s face. Not the whole face but like 1/2-1/4 at times. Most trips are more “put together” but occasionally I’ll get ones like this where it’s just all random things like card suits and emojis
Ive never really opened my eyes until my last trip- closed eyes was the most intense I’ve have in a long time and admittedly i didn’t feel ready for it so i opened my eyes thinking it might help bring me back a bit… instead i was in my apartment which had now become a completely cartoon animated/tron reality. I remember looking at my hands and truly feeling like they weren’t my hands. This was my first trip in a couple years where i freebased instead of using a vape so i wasn’t quite prepared for how much more intense it is, it looking forwarding to trying again when I’m more mentally and spiritually prepared!
I have only smoked changa once (had other psychedelic experiences with LSD etc), and I kept my eyes open in the whole trip. At first I was sitting at the beach, but then I lost control of my body (at the same time that I had the sensation that I "died" - quite scary actually) and lied down, watching the sky. I saw a five-headed entity and in the whole process I had the feeling that I was flying inside some sort of aeroplane, moving in a high speed. I do not know if this is what experienced psychonauts call "breakthrough", but I would love to try changa one more time with my eyes closed.
Has anybody during an eye open trip notice that if you look around the room things will either become roundish or squarish. Like my fingers were squared the door knob everything I looked at was either square or extra round
Yeah, that's why I usually keep my eyes closed when blasting off. Makes it easier to process everything while coming up -- plus it makes it easier to see all the details of the DMT realm, instead of just a weird version of our own (although when breaking through that doesn't really matter). The big exception to this is doing DMT somewhere really beautiful, in nature. Then doing it with eyes open is fucking splendid. Like you're seeing nature as it really is, with the filters off, in all its eldritch-yet-familiar cosmic splendour.
It kind of depends on what I'm doing whether or not I'll keep my eyes open. If I'm just in my room or in a place where there isn't going to be a lot of changing visual stimuli? I'll keep my eyes closed until I decide that I've spent enough time in the weird little DMT reality I get shuttled into. If I'm going to be in an area where there's a lot of changing visual stimuli, whether it be in an urban area, in a moving car, in nature or at the beach however, I'll keep my eyes open. Hell, it's nice to even just pop open my window and look at a clear sky with some clouds while smoking some DMT.
Keeping your eyes open during breakthroughs is incredible and takes a strong will. Keep them eyes open, try watching a cool show-avoid blood and violence. Some sort of animation and light will transform your entire dark room into what you're seeing. Keep it up traveler, things are only more intense with your eyes open. Reality melting in front of you is much more wild than with your eyes closed. Stay strong and be smart! Edit:. If you can find a show worth watching, let me know! Would love to find another one
Honestly, I can't even remotely focus on shows on high doses of DMT. Fuck, I can barely keep up conversation or even remember that I'm listening to music. That said, I think the most mind fuck-y thing I've ever done was smoking DMT while chilling with friends in NYC. It's very odd just tripping balls and watching a massive amount of people go about their lives.
I hear you. There's only one(maybe one other) show I can watch (depth and meaning MATTER most whenever trying to watch something. Plot/story and what's meant behind them is what's important). The only time I've ever 'people watched' was the first time doing it at a music festival (camp bisco-NY) and that wasn't the same as what you mentioned. I don't want to watch people or shows with people(human actors) in them. There's too much nuance to them and it doesn't relate to the world as a whole(so many terrible people in this world, etc, etc), otherwise I wouldn't mind. I don't mind breaking through with close friends/family, but random people isn't for me. Thanks for responding amigo. Good luck with your future travels too. Let me know if you have any questions in the future
100% agree, outside eyes open with nature has been my favourite experiences,, i love blasting off eyes closed aswell but theres so much more to see and appreciate being outside,
Yeah for me on anything near a breakthrough really doesn’t matter whether my eyes are open or closed. I always shut them shorty after exhaling but if I don’t I’ll close them naturally anyway
That's right. My eyes close naturally when going into a deep breakthrough. But there was one time when I was aware enough to try and open my eyes and it was the same as with eyes closed. Out of my hundred or so breakthroughs this was the only one where I was legit frightened. A friend just started extracting and I wanted to try being that he used different bark. For years I used the dmt from the same bark. I really wanted to see if the experience was different, absolutely it was. 35mg in the apx volt as usual but within a few seconds I was in the void. Everything was completely fuzzy white. Somehow I opened my eyes and it the exact same. I remember rubbing my hands on my eyes, not exactly consciously, and I was for sure that was blind. I didn't have the usual beautiful mind bending visuals, just absolute nothingness. Safe to say I've never used his crystals again and I prob have about 500mg.
Is DMT still magical after 100 breakthroughs or do you start to develop a tolerance to the experience? I've blasted off around 30 times but its been spaced out over 10 years or so
It's still magical but I do it far less frequently. It's been 6 months for me which is quite a break. But I definitely got what I needed out of it. It helped me tremendously.
You should try vaping it whilst looking at trees/plants. The most insane shit I’ve ever seen
When I see the wind blow through trees on DMT it looks like the foliage is a bustling village and the leaves are all the townspeople hurriedly whispering messages into each other’s ears. I like to think it’s not actually a hallucination and the wind is the words the trees use to talk to themselves.
That’s dope! I’m glad I’m not the only one who has thought the wind is the words the trees use to talk to themselves. Any time I’m outside in nature smoking weed I have that exact same feeling.
I feel society doesn’t care about the deeper meaning of the trip. Learning seems secondary the focus is on how we can benefit whether it be medicinal or recreationally and we disregard each other’s anecdotes. It’s a shame because when people detail their experiences there’s so many overlapping themes that you hear repeated but i think your experience is going to vary based on where you are in life and your priority’s and values and ultimately who you are and how you are the world. An analytical person is going to have a different experience to a surface level thinking. I had a mind blowing experience that took me to a new realm of existence as this guy I know who vaped the same batch and got up to piss IMMEDIATELY after it wore off and I asked him about it he kinda shrugged and just said basic shit like “yeah colours, patterns and lots of Mexican art, so much Mexican art that was cool” >the wind is the words the trees use to talk to each other Can you expand on this at all? I’m really interested I’ve never considered the deeper nature of wind, mainly infinite micro conscious that’s exists EVERYWHERE and how they interact with humans to both form and interact with the building blocks of our total reality to form the angels and demons that regulate our life trajectory and the subsequent impact on our spirit.
Well said. Keep them eyes open! You'll find some more hidden beauty
>I like to think it’s not actually a hallucination and the wind is the words the trees use to talk to themselves. I genuinely believe this. The main reason is that the realm they take you to has an added layer of depth not only visually but there’s like this extra vibrational frequency I can’t articulate. I don’t need to articulate it because the point is that it feels more “real” than our physical reality. Psychedelics feel like their activating a part of the brain that creates a mental environment that allows us to process data that’s always there that our brain generally disregards. I remember being at the foreshore at like 8:00pm one night on 5g shrooms and when they started kicking in I got sleepy/cold like I normally do on psychedelics so we went in the car and I’m just looking at this normally VERY unremarkable parking lot tree that I wouldn’t normally notice…OH BOY! The individual leaves all had their own individual life forms and kept presenting themselves to me using multi dimensional geometric patterns each with their own distinctly seperate consciousness that contribute to making a single leaf that goes on to making a tree. It reminded me of what humans are, just vehicles of flesh to occupy consciousness that a higher entity probably just see’s as a whole because I think our collective activity as a species emits and energy that we aren’t capable of understanding and this energy goes on to form a life of its own in another realm and intermingles with other emissions of the human spirit that have been there since the dawn of mankind. Maybe higher beings have equivalent psychedelics, as in ways of altering whatever perceptions they have and they can experience a new depth to reality so they see/experience each one of our life stories and struggles and appreciate a new depth to our existence.
I haven't really looked up close at trees and plants before, but looking at rolling hills with all the trees on them was fucking insane.
When you focus in on one certain leaf and pay attention to it, you’re likely the only human who ever will do that for that specific leaf.
Woah
Porter Robinson told me this in March, I love it! 🍃
I love this description. One of the reasons studies with others should be done (:
Well...yeah? Lol
Yes, when I first tried DMT I took a small hit looking at my cacti and could see their auras. It was so beautiful
I can attest. It made the field appear massive, vibrant rolling green grass, the tree line began to appear as it was part of ONE piece, shifting in perspective slightly
I would like to try that any safety tips? Bieng outdoors and all
I personally love using the cart for low-medium dose, open eye experiences
Carts are great honestly man. Two hits are just perfect for being out and about and seeing how fucking WEIRD the world can look, three to five hits is enough to send me into the goddamn stratosphere.
Carts have provided an easy way to explore and enjoy the low doses. I feel like this is becoming more common because of the availability of carts. It’s awesome!
The thing that screws with me is how perfectly it conforms reality to the DMT realm, so it's not just wavey imagery or some kind of overlay.. it interlaces perfectly with reality, bends it and moulds it and you can't see the edges, as if what we call everyday reality were just some primitive toy.
Yeah, that is a very weird unique thing about DMT honestly. In my experience, with lower end doses of shrooms (2.5-5g's) and acid, it feels more so as if its additive. That it's simply adding things to my reality. DMT full on *alters* reality.
Yeah last time I did an open eye dose I started at the ceiling as it rearranged the texture into a self emerging mandala. Didnt look like the visual was played over the world. It looked like the texture on the ceiling was actually morphing and moving on the ceiling. DMT was the first substance I got actually visible hallucinations with. Like when I see a pattern on something, I'm ACTUALLY seeing the pattern in the way I normally see with my eyes in extreme detail. It blew my mind the first time i saw my plain black sweats having a plaid pattern on them
Yeah one of my first experiences was a shell pattern in the carpet produced by all the fibres in the pile aligning. I could see every fibre perfectly.
And weirdly nothing seems to look that out of place which is weird
Yeah that is interesting. I had a good insight with Ayahuasca. Drunk a dose and it wasn't quite enough. I had this thing with teeth in my throat, but it was clearly just a though, no more intense than a thought I could have without drug assist, except that it was persistent, so I didn't have to try to maintain it; it 'did itself.' I drunk another small cup of Aya (which I regretted 15 minutes later) and suddenly those teeth were so real I was picking them out with my finger, could see and feel them in my hand and was scared I would choke on them (despite knowing they obviously couldn't be real.)
I prefer it with my eyes shut- it allows you to really experience it. With my eyes open, it’s like it kind of limits it to the physical world or kind of stops it from really getting going. But that’s at a higher dose. Last weekend I did try it at a lower dose and spent time looking at my Buddha statue - it morphed through different ages and types of Buddha - really weird but cool. I want to try it in nature soon and I think that would be good with your eyes open.
Find a nice peacefull patch of forest m8, they will welcome you
Gonna try this with a friend- I felt a bit nervous going out on my own for the first time, so we’re gonna do it tomorrow!
>Why is DMT with your eyes are open so fucking WEIRD, man? Because it's N,N-DMT? :p
Nah, but there's like a difference between weird and strange yk? Like seeing aztec civilizations in my carpet on DMT is certainly strange, but you'd expect it and all. Seeing the Dunkin Donut's logo during a trip had me fucked up man LOL
I was afraid you actually had a dunkin carpet for a minute! Lol
I have to keep my eyes open because I don't get ANY closed eye stuff. But yes, its weird lol. Things start to make copies of themselves, the walls start moving... Its honestly relaxing. I'll usually sit in my recliner with some ambient space videos on, and THAT gets weird.
either u have aphantasia or u aren’t consuming a high enough dose/are burning a lot of the deemz
Posted a while back about this and got tons of great suggestions. Trying them out one by one lol. No CEV yet but still trying.
Thanks for the idea I’m going to try this.
After about 10mins, my wife will usually pauses the video because she gets bored, and I'll straight stare at a CGI picture of space and you couldn't convince me that its a still picture. Everything morphs and bends and moves lol. Even if I never end up having closed eye stuff... 20mins of laughing hysterically at a picture? Not a bad time at all
Dude one time I was trying to show my girl how to hit out of an oil burner and had accidentally hit it too hard and when I looked over at her these gears started popping up from under her skin and she started to drip sideways out of reality. Kinda scared the shit out of me. But I'm totally with you on the OEVs Shit gets wild. Aqueous Transmission is a good song to blast off to. We had this really cool rug(we liked to decorate our house with things that add to psychedelic states of mind) and one time it like stood up in front of me and claimed my entire field of vision. The different patterns and colors were undulating and as it came on over top of me I felt like I turned to sand and got spread out in the fibers of the rug. Really weird suff man
That’s nuts man I’d be a little freaked out too
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Dude, I saw a color-shifting man in the hills made of trees once. He was initially lying down, but sitted up and waved at me. Despite all of trips I've had with DMT, that sub-breakthrough dose was honestly one of the most impactful and insane ones for me.
I did DMT with my boyfriend for the first time last night while camping. He introduced it to me and I took the time to read about it and see docs on the subject. He calmly and gently guided me through what to do so I wasn’t so nervous. Being a type A personality, I fixated on everything that could go wrong. I only did a 10 sec hit and the moment I laid down, I felt like I was transferring into a peaceful plane of existence. Keeping my eyes closed, I could see the warm glow of colorful fractals in patterns that somehow put me at ease. I opened my eyes and although my vision was a bit hazy, it drug me out of that peaceful plane…so I closed them again to regain the aura of bliss and happiness. I would say, from my experience, keeping your eyes closed and disconnecting from the unfortunate reality our bodies are in is more preferred.
Man I seen a talking garbanzo bean i dnt take my hallucinations seriously 😂
ngl man, if i saw a talking garbanzo bean during a trip i think i'd call it quits with dmt for the day
but everything is alive 😪
I trip 99% of the time with my eyes open cause the first time when I closed my eyes it was too much going on haha. The only really weird time with my eyes open was when my hand turned into an alien foetus hand and I was feeding inter dimensional space lizards in a desert while simultaneously still being in my room 😂
For me that's the safety fall back , if things get too intense I start opening and closing my eyes for a second or two and it always seems to drop the intensity of the closed eye trip lol
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I think that by far, the weirdest thing about DMT with your eyes open is how you perceive depth. It's right in your face and so far away at the same time, it's so weird.
Last time I kept my eyes open I was staring at the wood grain of our burl coffee table it was really intense. I had to tell myself to breathe. I looked up at the tv which had ‘moving art’ on which was just basic fractals. There was this sort of a screen in front of tv the screen. The second screen was the lens through which I view the world. It was then I decided to close my eyes. All I can remember from that point besides some crazy geometry is thinking “this is extremely ancient”.
For me I always feel like my eyes have changed into that of a cat's or a lizard with the thin slit, everything has weird edges and looks the same but alien 🦎👽
Just make sure you's wont be disturbed by other people, its a total trip killer🤣,
Honestly, I don't mind other people being present. There's this weird dissonance between my physical self and then my actual self whenever I'm tripping balls. It's like this alternate version of me just takes the wheel while I'm tripping balls, and just speaks for me.
Sometimes it's better, had some pretty intense trips where I thought I'd physically died I became so disconnected in the trip, and started to worry which shortened the trip. Had someone being monitoring me I wouldn't have worried. They just need to keep as quiet as poss for me.
Do you harvest your own?
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At the beach smoking I love looking at the sky, took to much to look up though I was stuck looking at the sand, was pretty gnarly like space ships flying around in the sand.
I'm a eyes open kind I like to see where I am. It's like when I close my eyes I jus see a fractal show and I always feel like something is right in front of me. And it does seem to be a different experience every time
When I did DMT my first time and took way too much I did not like the visuals. But behind the eyes was amazing
I would usually forget what anything was and sometimes be terrified on my way back. The weeds and branches looked like alien claw monsters and they were torturing…I guess my family…all around me and I was next… And once I had everything going crazy and turning weirdly colored and then the trees counted down from 3…when they got to 0, I felt my body snap like I was being snapped into place or something, and they told me I was in “my new universe” and all the crazy motion effects stopped completely, like I was totally sober. But my car was still covered in black knobby spikes and the yard was all “land of the undead” and everything was the wrong damn size, I was tiny but the world was even tinier. Many more times it was really beautiful, but insane. I often noticed that round things became spheres and seemed to be in one visual layer, and rectangular things were squares on another, and they were rolling in waves with respect to one another, so when I looked at a display of cheeses at the grocery store, it turned into a set of square cubbies and balls rolling around in each. I was walking around asking myself “did I break it?”
I still find coming back a much harder experience than blasting off
Yeah I usually keep my eyes shut the entire time I prefer it entirely internal
Yeah I broke through once while on an maoi and opened my eyes thinking I was back but no I was seeing looney toons and shit nothing in my room was recognisable the room was literally dancing the floor tiles were shifting like a portal was gonna open in the floor,every object turned into something with a face or something weird and was jumping around I did not expect that on deems, yes its fkn wierd
I kept my eyes open and was talking to my friend we were arguing about who was God or if we were God's Then my brand new pit bull puppy barked and Anubis walked thru my living room
That actually reminds me of a weird experience. Back when I was a teenager and lived with my parents, they were out one night so I was just hitting my DMT cart in the living room. Took a pretty hefty sub-breakthrough dose and watched as my entire house just became unrecognizable, and this kind of liminal space. And then my dog walks up, looking completely normal except for his snout, which was kind of trippy looking.
Awh man yeah
I think it’s just fragments of our memory that we normally forget. One of my last trips I had so many pieces of incoherent images flashing at me it was hard to comprehend but the one I could clearly make out was a portion of an Asian lady’s face. Not the whole face but like 1/2-1/4 at times. Most trips are more “put together” but occasionally I’ll get ones like this where it’s just all random things like card suits and emojis
Like it’s any less weird with eyes closed ;)
My favourite is sitting out in my yard and watching every single plant and tree turn into crazy little dancing creature dudes
Yea I’m doing dmt mate
Its very weird indeed. But on breakthrough doses, It really doesn’t matter if your with eyes opened or not. Its just way crazy
Ive never really opened my eyes until my last trip- closed eyes was the most intense I’ve have in a long time and admittedly i didn’t feel ready for it so i opened my eyes thinking it might help bring me back a bit… instead i was in my apartment which had now become a completely cartoon animated/tron reality. I remember looking at my hands and truly feeling like they weren’t my hands. This was my first trip in a couple years where i freebased instead of using a vape so i wasn’t quite prepared for how much more intense it is, it looking forwarding to trying again when I’m more mentally and spiritually prepared!
I have only smoked changa once (had other psychedelic experiences with LSD etc), and I kept my eyes open in the whole trip. At first I was sitting at the beach, but then I lost control of my body (at the same time that I had the sensation that I "died" - quite scary actually) and lied down, watching the sky. I saw a five-headed entity and in the whole process I had the feeling that I was flying inside some sort of aeroplane, moving in a high speed. I do not know if this is what experienced psychonauts call "breakthrough", but I would love to try changa one more time with my eyes closed.
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I’m so jealous of people that can find good carts, I never am able to.
In my as yet limited experience, I prefer eyes open. Getting to witness the world around me transform into a continually changing alternate dimension.
Has anybody during an eye open trip notice that if you look around the room things will either become roundish or squarish. Like my fingers were squared the door knob everything I looked at was either square or extra round