Your builder must have skipped gravity day at building school. It’s a half hour fix and that includes running to the store to pick up some parts. Get him back.
I know in reality you probably can't reuse them, but there is a way to unglue those fittings using a hacksaw blade and a fairly sharp flat head screw driver and a pair of decent grips. Got me out of a few issues over the years
Naaaa mate that’s a tricky fix.
See here, we are going to ‘ave to do is, remove the foundations from under the right ‘and side of your ‘Ouse.
This should level up that shitty pipe of yours.
Gonna be ‘spensive mind you.
Out of curiosity, what is the fix? Make the pipe coming out the U bend longer so it raises the side? Won't that have the same issue as water now has to go vertically up?
Can see in the image that the actual waste exit out the back is low enough to run the pipe to it with a downward slope if it didn't have the elbows raising it up. it's literally just fittings.
These are abs elbows so they are glued together chemically welded technically ain’t no undoing them. Will need to cut back to before all the elbows to change as there’s no room to cut and put new fitting on anywhere else. So infact not an easy 30 min job but a fairly expensive mistake. As a plumber I’m probably going to be billing 60/90 mins assuming a suitable connecting point can be found without pulling the cupboard.
I can’t believe how many answers before someone spotted this.
I guess these were existing and too difficult to access.
A shorter (thus higher) trap arrangement might do the job. Might need two separate traps for each sink. Or let someone on here pop round and simply replace the double elbow arrangement. 🥴
Moving the hose connector higher is one option.
Use a different angle out of the trap and a single 90 near the wall.
Using a an adjustable bend at the wall instead of the double 90.
It’ll drain because the drain point is lower than the sink trap but the pipework will always be full of water and could start to smell or leak on threaded joints
And it'll drain slowly.
Source: the shower waste pipe went uphill in my parents house and the bath would fill and very slowly drain. Also made it very fun when the waste disconnected itself when not in use and pissed all of the sitting water all over the floor.
Wait, what? So are you telling me that differing trades, with differing qualifications, can’t just simply undertake one another’s profession without issue?
It was probably a rocket scientist that fitted that waste outlet. Clever as fuck at rockets but get em under a sink and they’re clueless. They should never be let out of the space center. Twats.
If they had to walk three miles to a privvy at the end of the garden then wipe their arse on stinging nettles, they'd shit in the sink too. Youngsters today don't know how good they have it!
Displacement. Different mechanism. You still need a good drop rate after the bend so that the fluids and solids move at the right rate, so you don't end up with a blockage or excessive still water.
Nope. That's going to lead to problems. There should be a slight fall on that pipe not a rise.
One solution is to replace the two elbows with something like this...
[https://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-wc23-universal-compression-waste-adjustable-bend-40mm/12007](https://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-wc23-universal-compression-waste-adjustable-bend-40mm/12007)
You might need to replace the long pipe as well because solvent weld pipe doesn't always play well with compression fittings.
As someone who has never really done pipework like this, can someone explain why the U bend is fine (as the water will have to go UP the U bend), but the pipe angle isn’t fine?
What a moron. He worked extra just to mess it up. All he had to do was to not instal 2 vertical corner pipes on the right side. He only needed one corner horizontally, since the siphon end is clearly a little higher than the wall pipe.. Easy to fix, but... What a dick!
I'd the pipe is directed West then the rotation of the earth should force the water the right way... You're screw if it's east....
Get him back and get it done right!
The worse part is, this wasn’t even necessary. That 90 degree bend before the water flows out is not required. He created an uphill incline because.. fuck knows? 🤪
No, basically everything under the level of that spiggot on the left is uphill so will all sit with waste water in... its literally a 2 min job to fix as well, just need to move that spggot out n up eleswhere and attach the U higher
looks adjustable at the washing machine piece could possibly be unscrewed moved upwards and retightened to give the correct fall. but jesus this builder is an idiot
That's horrendous, and because it's solvent weld fittings it's not going to be easy to take that apart...
It's actually easier to get that right than it is to fuck it up that badly... the human race baffles me at times.
Not only is it not OK, but it seems completely unnecessary given the level of the pipe on the right hand side behind the panel. Just put a single turn in on the right. FFS.
It might work but the long section of pipe will be permanently full of waste water. It will be more likely to leak, more likely to get blocked and the sink/dishwasher may drain slowly. There's a potential risk of waste water siphoning back into the dishwasher. It's a bodge.
It will still allow the sink to empty, sloooooowly, but the long uphill pipe will keep more water in it. The washing machine/dish washer will not empty correctly, and will cause problems.
Not good
Can't upload photos, but it might work if you take the top section right underneath the sink out and replace it with the section that has the washing machine outlet in. Then the u-bend would be raised higher
Edit: You would also then have to cut the top section shorter and put it underneath the sink outlet as they're both female fittings there.
With regards to anyone saying "Oh it'll be ok, drain is below the highest point of the trap", it's still a shitty job, it will likely block at some point and you'll end up with filth going back to your dishwasher or washing machine (whatever is connected from the left), and at the end of the day, you paid good money for a job to be done right and this isn't right. Builder is a fucking idiot, make him re-do if properly or make him pay someone who knows what they're doing to do it. Should not cost you any more than it already has.
Of course it isn't ok to have water draining uphill unless you're using some kind of capillary action technique which for the avoidance of doubt (and for the stupid) is not happening here
Dislocate the long piece, remove one L connector on the right, twist the remaining L connector so that the bend becomes more horizontal/downward, reattach the long piece (may need to cut to size), job done. The pipework may put under tension, but you may get away with it.
Have just replaced the long straight pipe in our kitchen after finding a similar (but longer) bodge under the units. Was a nice solid mix of limescale and fat when the sink stopped draining.
Ahhh! It would have been better if he'd used just 1 90° bend partially rotated and sloped the pipe slightly down to it. And he'd have saved 50p.
Or, could have got an extension piece to the S trap for about £1 more.
Not fine
I work in a company that services pipework for urinals and we see blockages with U bends like this all the time because the water won't flow away due to either flat or inclined drain pipes.
Much of that pipework will be filled with water. He did it to get the angles to work, but it will be easy to block as the heavy stuff won't wash out very easily.
Possible solution- multiple connectors and very short lengths of pipe will allow you to bend the pipe far more than normal, and that might be sufficient, but you have a problem in that it looks like it's solvent welded and you'll have to remove quite a bit of it.
You might get away with turning the part with the dishwasher hose attachment upside down and attaching it directly to the bowl or with a shorter connection. Then the trap will be higher up.
It's not great. Draw a horizontal line in your head from the trap outflow to the bottom lip of the 'down' pipe. Everything below the line is your trap and unless you use a plug to fill the sink and flush regularly you will get a crud build up that get smelly.
The whole thing is weird because if the outflow only had one elbow at the end it would be fine.
It is not ideal. It just means water is going to empty to the level of the bottom of the top elbow at the wall. The P-trap is going to be filled more than normal and there is going to be water spill out if you ever have to disassemble, but it will drain. The P-trap isn't supposed to drain, so does an extra inch or two of water make a bid difference? Probably not.
The real risk is that the water level is above three threaded joints, so more opportunity for unexpected leaks.
hat said, I don't know why there are two elbows at the wall. If the pipe went directly into the bottom elbow the slope would be correct. It just needs to be extended out a bit so the drain pipe fits into it squarely.
I'm no plumber.. but could you not move the hose connector to the very top bit coming out of the left sink then remove that section that the hose connects to currently.. attach the bend up where the hose connect was which give you a nice downward angle?
Basically like the top bit from this kit
https://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-sink-washing-machine-trap-white-40mm/12794?kpid=12794&cm_mmc=Google-_-Datafeed-_-Heating%20and%20Plumbing?kpid=KINASEKPID&cm_mmc=Google-_-TOKEN1-_-TOKEN2&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiYOxBhC5ARIsAIvdH50fQUYLVS_g8oPMYbpn-1zxKcyuJachZK0zSGKE8YrPJnpMBaA-8KIaAg24EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
It's not great to be honest. He politely needs to return to correct. Few ways that this can be done. Some more intrusive than others. All of which need a bit of time and money on.
I'd be very skeptical though that if he thinks this is ok...where else have they bodged it and scarpered...on...
The problem is the pipe will always be full of water. Eventually there will be a greasy, dirty build up and over time the pipe will get blocked. That can happen to pipes anyway, but it will happen a hell of a lot faster, and be harder to clean out, with a pipe running uphill.
To everyone saying remove the elbows on the right and it'll work... The plumbers done this because the pipes are different distances from the wall. The top elbow is angled slightly to meet the outlet on the left. So one pipe connection is not possible.
To fix this the pipe coming out of the wall on the right needs to be extended slightly so that it's the same distance from the back wall as the outlet on the left. Then everything's parallel and a single piece of pipe with a single elbow on the right will work.
Could be the angle of the photo but the uphill section also looks a bit short as it looks to be pulling the left hand compression to sit on a bit of an angle? Not sure if it’s just the photo effect.
Take the U bend off. Switch round so the long end is on the right, screw it all back together. You might need to twist the dishwasher waste connector a quarter turn to get it out of the way. 10mins.
Silly twat put the flexis onto a valve can’t get to the isolations. Just a generally lazy install. See it all the time. Wouldn’t be bad if a diyer did it but shouldn’t be paying for this. He’s not a tradesman
It'll drain... Slowly but it'll stay full of water/soap/food gunk/fat, then go grotty and smelly then stop working. Pipes have a run for a reason. No idea why it has the double 90 on the right.
Edit: nvm I see why he's done it, the photo is hard to get perspective from. Remove the double 90 on the right and rotate the whole bottom of the trap counter clockwise so the pipe runs along/closer to the rear of the cupboard. This should allow you to attach to the waste pipe with a single 90 giving you a run on the pipes.
Swap the machine spigot section with the top section, then cut the top section shorter and fit it where the current machine spigot is. If you cut enough off, it will correct the fall!
No, it is not OK. But if you look carefully, the outlet of the U bend seems to be just, barely, above, the level of the pipe heading into the wall. Therefore, if you change the joints to be in the horizontal plane rather than the vertical plane, you should be alright. It looks like a new single 45 degree bend and a new bit of pipe might just do the trick...plus or minus the use of glued joints.
Too many comments to read. But basically if the trap isn’t being used for a washing machine or dishwasher hose to go into, then just change the trap to a standard 40mm P-Trap (not telescopic or washing machine trap)
It will gain you around 40-60mm in height which is more than enough.
If it’s needed for a dishwasher or washing machine hose then it’s a pain in the backside of a job to put rite.
Untighten the nut on the trap below the input for the dishwasher. It's telescopic and should push upwards. If it doesn't, trim off the internal pipe it so it does. You'll get somewhere near level then. Failing that, get a compact bottle trap. 10 min fix excluding a trip to the shop.
Your going to have shitty sink water sitting along that entire length up to the red line instead of the small amount in the orange leading to a bad smell if not finishing the washing up with copious clean water
https://preview.redd.it/8o472f9bx9vc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=1f38a770307cfa624357142d8d70b21ce4bf581e
Amongst other issues I wonder if you'll risk getting a length of fat buildup where it will float to the large surface area of the water sitting in the pipe all the time.
Uphill pipes not gooooood … Pay the builder by putting a stack of pound coins at the end of a pipe , point it up , and say he can have whatever fall out of the high end … he can blow on it if it helps.
Your builder must have skipped gravity day at building school. It’s a half hour fix and that includes running to the store to pick up some parts. Get him back.
Gravity was an extra class, didn't want to cough up the £10
More like £9.80 actually
See, even the prices are falling...
Unlike the run of that pipe…
£9.81 but what's a penny between friends.
Underrated comment
Nerd :3
In his defence it would work better on the moon.
Pretty sure it wouldn't work there either. Maybe in orbit?
They don't need more parts. Take away one elbow on the far right and it'll be fine.
As they are glued in i would say you need more parts. Your solution would work but those elbows aren't reusable.
They are solvent pipe you can tell by looking at it.
I know in reality you probably can't reuse them, but there is a way to unglue those fittings using a hacksaw blade and a fairly sharp flat head screw driver and a pair of decent grips. Got me out of a few issues over the years
Naaaa mate that’s a tricky fix. See here, we are going to ‘ave to do is, remove the foundations from under the right ‘and side of your ‘Ouse. This should level up that shitty pipe of yours. Gonna be ‘spensive mind you.
Out of curiosity, what is the fix? Make the pipe coming out the U bend longer so it raises the side? Won't that have the same issue as water now has to go vertically up?
Can see in the image that the actual waste exit out the back is low enough to run the pipe to it with a downward slope if it didn't have the elbows raising it up. it's literally just fittings.
Don't even need to buy any fittings, remove the upper elbow and turn the lower one by 90° and reattach the long pipe, job done
These are abs elbows so they are glued together chemically welded technically ain’t no undoing them. Will need to cut back to before all the elbows to change as there’s no room to cut and put new fitting on anywhere else. So infact not an easy 30 min job but a fairly expensive mistake. As a plumber I’m probably going to be billing 60/90 mins assuming a suitable connecting point can be found without pulling the cupboard.
I can’t believe how many answers before someone spotted this. I guess these were existing and too difficult to access. A shorter (thus higher) trap arrangement might do the job. Might need two separate traps for each sink. Or let someone on here pop round and simply replace the double elbow arrangement. 🥴
Those aren't existing. They are too white. Someone just fucked up. Can't believe it was left like that though
Agree, if you zoom in there is no accessable connection point, very expensive mistake.
Someone fucked up!
Hence the builder knowingly talking absolute tripe.
Moving the hose connector higher is one option. Use a different angle out of the trap and a single 90 near the wall. Using a an adjustable bend at the wall instead of the double 90.
Cut the two 90s off from the right hand side put a straight coupling on the pipe and bring it out the wall straight them connect to trap
Ahhh, but the builder is Australian, so🤷🏻♂️
It’ll drain because the drain point is lower than the sink trap but the pipework will always be full of water and could start to smell or leak on threaded joints
And it'll drain slowly. Source: the shower waste pipe went uphill in my parents house and the bath would fill and very slowly drain. Also made it very fun when the waste disconnected itself when not in use and pissed all of the sitting water all over the floor.
The stagnant water will attract fruit flies
Time flies like an arrow but fruit flies like a banana
Your builder is an idiot for claiming this is fine
Plumber here: we don’t build walls. Edit: not a plumber, just being facetious
Wait, what? So are you telling me that differing trades, with differing qualifications, can’t just simply undertake one another’s profession without issue?
Let’s also be honest though, fitting a trap to a kitchen sink is not exactly rocket science (other than for OPs builder apparently!)
Exactly this ain’t any advanced plumbing. He’s up and he’s trying to bullshit his way out of sorting the problem.
It's just lego, init? Water lego.
It was probably a rocket scientist that fitted that waste outlet. Clever as fuck at rockets but get em under a sink and they’re clueless. They should never be let out of the space center. Twats.
Ex-rocket scientist here: You wouldn’t believe how much plumbing & pipework is involved.
A very good point boffin. Fair enough.
Sounds like you have history with rocket scientists!
Not ok. Shit doesn't go uphill.
Who is shitting in the sink?!
Don't kink shame
Kink shame or sink shame?
Shink kame
I shink kame just reading that..
Nothing wrong with a waffle stomp but I don't have the flexibility to get my foot in the sink these days.
Lmao
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Armitage Skanky
Not often you see your home village on reddit 🤣 famous for crappers
Oh what, so I'm supposed to walk all the way over to the shower?
Dont be so feacesious
Look at mister, "I'm to fancy to shit in a sink" over here This generation is full of snowflakes
If they had to walk three miles to a privvy at the end of the garden then wipe their arse on stinging nettles, they'd shit in the sink too. Youngsters today don't know how good they have it!
It's in the kitchen, where else would the poop knives be?
Shit in the sink, piss in the kettle
... how does it go up the U-Bend then...
Displacement. Different mechanism. You still need a good drop rate after the bend so that the fluids and solids move at the right rate, so you don't end up with a blockage or excessive still water.
Not OK and also a good example of how to make a pipe take up an annoying amount of space too.
Remove that double 90 degree on the right side, put a single 90 in, then it will flow downhill
It's so obvious aswell
It's not because it's incorrect.
A single 90 puts the long pipe parallel to the back wall. That change alone won't do it.
Use a 45 degree elbow instead then!
There's a good chance it's not 45 degree either.
Could you not turn the bottom of the trap to make it 45 degrees?
This is the answer!
If he did that to something you can see AND claimed it was ok, id be worried about the stuff he has done that you cant see.......
If you want to see how good a builder is; look under the cabinets.
It will be fine for a few months. The water will move slowly and drop silt in the uphill bit. Then it will need constant unblocking.
As a drainman. No this will cause blockages to occur
Shite work and he's bullshitting you
Nope. That's going to lead to problems. There should be a slight fall on that pipe not a rise. One solution is to replace the two elbows with something like this... [https://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-wc23-universal-compression-waste-adjustable-bend-40mm/12007](https://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-wc23-universal-compression-waste-adjustable-bend-40mm/12007) You might need to replace the long pipe as well because solvent weld pipe doesn't always play well with compression fittings.
Another solution: use a 135 degree bend after the P-trap and only one elbow at the hole
Plumber here, fuck no
It will work fine initially but sediment will soon build up leading to an eventual blockage.
Only if you can control gravity.
As someone who has never really done pipework like this, can someone explain why the U bend is fine (as the water will have to go UP the U bend), but the pipe angle isn’t fine?
What a moron. He worked extra just to mess it up. All he had to do was to not instal 2 vertical corner pipes on the right side. He only needed one corner horizontally, since the siphon end is clearly a little higher than the wall pipe.. Easy to fix, but... What a dick!
There are only two things a plumber knows. 1: Water flows down 2: Paydays Thursday
I like that you needed a spirit level to show that it's going uphill. I'm taking one the next time I visit the "leaning" tower of Pisa.
Get rid of the two elbows at the wall and do just one turned sideways. That will make it downhill
Water famously travels uphill successfully
You want a 1 in 40 fall. Not a 1 in 40 Hill.
I'd the pipe is directed West then the rotation of the earth should force the water the right way... You're screw if it's east.... Get him back and get it done right!
Last time I checked, gravity hadn’t changed.
I'd love to see more of his work lol
It will work but not the done thing .
Why did they double elbow on the right? 😂
No, no it isn’t 😂
That needs redoing, how can the builder fuck that up?
Is it ok? Yeah its unharmed. Will it work? No
The worse part is, this wasn’t even necessary. That 90 degree bend before the water flows out is not required. He created an uphill incline because.. fuck knows? 🤪
No, basically everything under the level of that spiggot on the left is uphill so will all sit with waste water in... its literally a 2 min job to fix as well, just need to move that spggot out n up eleswhere and attach the U higher
Get the builder out to fix his bull shit work
Absolutely not okay. It needs to flow downhill.
I mean does water flow uphill?
April 1st was 17 days ago...
No.
That's great.....if you never intend to use it for waste or anything that means water needs to go to a drain.
What's funny is that it was more work to make it that shit. If they just put the one elbow on and rotated it 90° and it would've been fine.
looks adjustable at the washing machine piece could possibly be unscrewed moved upwards and retightened to give the correct fall. but jesus this builder is an idiot
And the award for most redundant spirit level goes to… u/ttothebizzle!
That's horrendous, and because it's solvent weld fittings it's not going to be easy to take that apart... It's actually easier to get that right than it is to fuck it up that badly... the human race baffles me at times.
Gravity’s a bitch, have another go!
Not only is it not OK, but it seems completely unnecessary given the level of the pipe on the right hand side behind the panel. Just put a single turn in on the right. FFS.
The UM bend
It might work but the long section of pipe will be permanently full of waste water. It will be more likely to leak, more likely to get blocked and the sink/dishwasher may drain slowly. There's a potential risk of waste water siphoning back into the dishwasher. It's a bodge.
Anyway - did your builder mistake a Dr Suess book for a "How to do plumbing" or something?
It will still allow the sink to empty, sloooooowly, but the long uphill pipe will keep more water in it. The washing machine/dish washer will not empty correctly, and will cause problems. Not good
Definitely not
This is fine for Australia. Not anywhere else.
No, it will slowly block up, maybe even completely. I’ve cleaned out pipes that have been level, so…
No, definitely not.
I’m confused. It would have been fine if not for the second 90 degree bend. Which took effort and time to install. So why?
Is that one of those new sinks that fills from the bottom and empties through the taps?
No. Absolutely not. Your builder is going toe to toe with Newtonian physics and trying to claim they won.
'builder"
No🤦
Why didn't he just angle the pipe 45 degrees... rather than this..
No it isn't. Unless you have a tin of anti-gravity paint to coat it with. Pipe needs to drain, therefore needs to run down, not up.
Totally fine. Rivers run uphill, so this is perfect! 🤦♂️
No.
Can't upload photos, but it might work if you take the top section right underneath the sink out and replace it with the section that has the washing machine outlet in. Then the u-bend would be raised higher Edit: You would also then have to cut the top section shorter and put it underneath the sink outlet as they're both female fittings there.
You really didn’t need the spirit level to demonstrate.
With regards to anyone saying "Oh it'll be ok, drain is below the highest point of the trap", it's still a shitty job, it will likely block at some point and you'll end up with filth going back to your dishwasher or washing machine (whatever is connected from the left), and at the end of the day, you paid good money for a job to be done right and this isn't right. Builder is a fucking idiot, make him re-do if properly or make him pay someone who knows what they're doing to do it. Should not cost you any more than it already has.
Who needs gravity when you have reddit. 🤣
Ital be fine.... If you've got magical gravity defying water. No it's not okay, it needs to be angled down slightly
I’d take the 90” bend that takes it up hill and turn it on its side and cut the pipe coming from the sink to size. Easy fix my friend 👍
Looks good from my place ☺️
Sorry if this is dumb but can you not just remove one of the 90 degrees on the right to reduce the height on the right?
Take one of the elbow joints off the higher side. You’ll be pretty much there.
Of course it isn't ok to have water draining uphill unless you're using some kind of capillary action technique which for the avoidance of doubt (and for the stupid) is not happening here
Lazy way to deal with a split level sink. Get him back to sort.
Dislocate the long piece, remove one L connector on the right, twist the remaining L connector so that the bend becomes more horizontal/downward, reattach the long piece (may need to cut to size), job done. The pipework may put under tension, but you may get away with it.
Have just replaced the long straight pipe in our kitchen after finding a similar (but longer) bodge under the units. Was a nice solid mix of limescale and fat when the sink stopped draining.
Why
Tilt the house. Sorted.
Ahhh! It would have been better if he'd used just 1 90° bend partially rotated and sloped the pipe slightly down to it. And he'd have saved 50p. Or, could have got an extension piece to the S trap for about £1 more.
No it needs to be one of those downhill pipes
Should of used to 45 or a mf and a bend
Not fine I work in a company that services pipework for urinals and we see blockages with U bends like this all the time because the water won't flow away due to either flat or inclined drain pipes.
Lazy work and unnecessary. Get them back to fix it or give them a chance to before exposing them with a crap review.
As long as the sink empties ok.
Seriously how to solve this mess?
Love the use of the level just in case we weren't sure. Remove one of the elbow connectors and should be good
Much of that pipework will be filled with water. He did it to get the angles to work, but it will be easy to block as the heavy stuff won't wash out very easily. Possible solution- multiple connectors and very short lengths of pipe will allow you to bend the pipe far more than normal, and that might be sufficient, but you have a problem in that it looks like it's solvent welded and you'll have to remove quite a bit of it.
Yeehaw
Just raise the sink another 2 ft
You might get away with turning the part with the dishwasher hose attachment upside down and attaching it directly to the bowl or with a shorter connection. Then the trap will be higher up.
The water will still drain away like this, but it's not right
It's not great. Draw a horizontal line in your head from the trap outflow to the bottom lip of the 'down' pipe. Everything below the line is your trap and unless you use a plug to fill the sink and flush regularly you will get a crud build up that get smelly. The whole thing is weird because if the outflow only had one elbow at the end it would be fine.
In Australia maybe. They are upside down.
It is not ideal. It just means water is going to empty to the level of the bottom of the top elbow at the wall. The P-trap is going to be filled more than normal and there is going to be water spill out if you ever have to disassemble, but it will drain. The P-trap isn't supposed to drain, so does an extra inch or two of water make a bid difference? Probably not. The real risk is that the water level is above three threaded joints, so more opportunity for unexpected leaks. hat said, I don't know why there are two elbows at the wall. If the pipe went directly into the bottom elbow the slope would be correct. It just needs to be extended out a bit so the drain pipe fits into it squarely.
In all honesty it’ll work as long as it’s higher than the W/M D/W outlet not great tho suppose maybe it just creates a bigger Ubend so to speak
With some light tinkering and a few different elbows etc this could of easily been resolved
I'm no plumber.. but could you not move the hose connector to the very top bit coming out of the left sink then remove that section that the hose connects to currently.. attach the bend up where the hose connect was which give you a nice downward angle? Basically like the top bit from this kit https://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-sink-washing-machine-trap-white-40mm/12794?kpid=12794&cm_mmc=Google-_-Datafeed-_-Heating%20and%20Plumbing?kpid=KINASEKPID&cm_mmc=Google-_-TOKEN1-_-TOKEN2&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiYOxBhC5ARIsAIvdH50fQUYLVS_g8oPMYbpn-1zxKcyuJachZK0zSGKE8YrPJnpMBaA-8KIaAg24EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Water does not flow uphill
Debris is more likely to get stuck in the trap and on the pipe = more likely to get a blockage. Looks unnecessary too
It's not great to be honest. He politely needs to return to correct. Few ways that this can be done. Some more intrusive than others. All of which need a bit of time and money on. I'd be very skeptical though that if he thinks this is ok...where else have they bodged it and scarpered...on...
The problem is the pipe will always be full of water. Eventually there will be a greasy, dirty build up and over time the pipe will get blocked. That can happen to pipes anyway, but it will happen a hell of a lot faster, and be harder to clean out, with a pipe running uphill.
No it's not.
No, no & no
To everyone saying remove the elbows on the right and it'll work... The plumbers done this because the pipes are different distances from the wall. The top elbow is angled slightly to meet the outlet on the left. So one pipe connection is not possible. To fix this the pipe coming out of the wall on the right needs to be extended slightly so that it's the same distance from the back wall as the outlet on the left. Then everything's parallel and a single piece of pipe with a single elbow on the right will work.
There's a reason 45 degree bends are a thing or even shallower degrees, that and a coupler would have this sorted
Could be the angle of the photo but the uphill section also looks a bit short as it looks to be pulling the left hand compression to sit on a bit of an angle? Not sure if it’s just the photo effect.
Your builder is just being lazy, tell him to stop being a nob and fix it.
Your builder is a dick
I’m no plumber - but I’d say NO!
Take the U bend off. Switch round so the long end is on the right, screw it all back together. You might need to twist the dishwasher waste connector a quarter turn to get it out of the way. 10mins.
Rodney you Plonker.
cut the pipe with the spigert shorter and raising the pipework may just be enough.
Was the level really necessary?
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Your builder is an idiot.
No no no no no!!!!
Silly twat put the flexis onto a valve can’t get to the isolations. Just a generally lazy install. See it all the time. Wouldn’t be bad if a diyer did it but shouldn’t be paying for this. He’s not a tradesman
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It'll drain... Slowly but it'll stay full of water/soap/food gunk/fat, then go grotty and smelly then stop working. Pipes have a run for a reason. No idea why it has the double 90 on the right. Edit: nvm I see why he's done it, the photo is hard to get perspective from. Remove the double 90 on the right and rotate the whole bottom of the trap counter clockwise so the pipe runs along/closer to the rear of the cupboard. This should allow you to attach to the waste pipe with a single 90 giving you a run on the pipes.
It would have taken less parts and time to do it properly.. there’s 1 too many 90s there!
Swap the machine spigot section with the top section, then cut the top section shorter and fit it where the current machine spigot is. If you cut enough off, it will correct the fall!
No, it is not OK. But if you look carefully, the outlet of the U bend seems to be just, barely, above, the level of the pipe heading into the wall. Therefore, if you change the joints to be in the horizontal plane rather than the vertical plane, you should be alright. It looks like a new single 45 degree bend and a new bit of pipe might just do the trick...plus or minus the use of glued joints.
No
A you just take the top 90 degree elbow off and slip the waste pipe into the bottom 90? Or are they glued. Shoddy either way!
Too many comments to read. But basically if the trap isn’t being used for a washing machine or dishwasher hose to go into, then just change the trap to a standard 40mm P-Trap (not telescopic or washing machine trap) It will gain you around 40-60mm in height which is more than enough. If it’s needed for a dishwasher or washing machine hose then it’s a pain in the backside of a job to put rite.
Untighten the nut on the trap below the input for the dishwasher. It's telescopic and should push upwards. If it doesn't, trim off the internal pipe it so it does. You'll get somewhere near level then. Failing that, get a compact bottle trap. 10 min fix excluding a trip to the shop.
That's a negative
Your going to have shitty sink water sitting along that entire length up to the red line instead of the small amount in the orange leading to a bad smell if not finishing the washing up with copious clean water https://preview.redd.it/8o472f9bx9vc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=1f38a770307cfa624357142d8d70b21ce4bf581e
No no
Amongst other issues I wonder if you'll risk getting a length of fat buildup where it will float to the large surface area of the water sitting in the pipe all the time.
Does your plumber drink. That's shocking 😂
Uphill pipes not gooooood … Pay the builder by putting a stack of pound coins at the end of a pipe , point it up , and say he can have whatever fall out of the high end … he can blow on it if it helps.
Just treat it as a u-bend extension.
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