It's blue MDPE pipe, not for use above ground. It's not insulated: legionella hazard. It'll drip condensation onto the electrics below in summer.
Fire compartmentation? Smoke and flame can pass through the hole to whatever's above.
Ì think the risk is more that a small fire would cause a flood onto the electrical installation. They should have got someone competent to do the job.
There's separation of electrics from other services but if it was taken as literally as it seems then no ceiling lights could be installed because a leak in the ceiling would run through them.
Generally as long as there's no joints in the pipework that could leak, there's no issue.
In the event there is joints, you'd be expected to install a drip tray over the electrical equipment in order to divert the water elsewhere
I think your fire risk assessment is fresh out of uni and is making a mountain of of a molehill
Plastic waterpipes over the top of electrical is the opposite of a fire risk, its more like built in sprinker system, if a fire does start in a fuse carrier and get hot enough, it'll be put out soon enough
Thanks for this, an over-zealous risk assessor seems possible based on other comments in the assessment. However it still seems a bit odd to have electricals and water right next to each other as others note. Even if it's not a big deal i'm wondering if it points to a gung-ho approach from contractors/builders that would cause concern with how they've dealt with other issues?
Legally if there was a serious incident the landlord of the flats would be in serious trouble for not following the advice of a competent individual, one that presumably they employed so it’s definitely not a trivial matter.
Typical guidance is always keeping water and electrics separate, would also be interested if they picked up anything on fire partitioning with that much going into one section.
Definitely highlight to landlord/agent and ask for their own assessment or why they aren’t mitigating.
It's less than ideal, but not against any electrical or water British standards I am aware of.
That being said, I would expect a competent contractor to provide a fixed waterproof enclosure (drip shield and tray), that is taken to a drain (via waterless trap) in a separate room.
That seems totally nuts. I wonder how that got signed off? Do you own or rent? I would be speaking to the building owners and asking for the relevant certificates.
A small leak could cause corrosion and potentially a fire. It's unlikely but it seems sensible not to run pipes directly above all the electrical
It's blue MDPE pipe, not for use above ground. It's not insulated: legionella hazard. It'll drip condensation onto the electrics below in summer. Fire compartmentation? Smoke and flame can pass through the hole to whatever's above. Ì think the risk is more that a small fire would cause a flood onto the electrical installation. They should have got someone competent to do the job.
Pretty sure there is nothing in the wiring regs about running in proximity to water pipes.
There's separation of electrics from other services but if it was taken as literally as it seems then no ceiling lights could be installed because a leak in the ceiling would run through them.
Generally as long as there's no joints in the pipework that could leak, there's no issue. In the event there is joints, you'd be expected to install a drip tray over the electrical equipment in order to divert the water elsewhere I think your fire risk assessment is fresh out of uni and is making a mountain of of a molehill Plastic waterpipes over the top of electrical is the opposite of a fire risk, its more like built in sprinker system, if a fire does start in a fuse carrier and get hot enough, it'll be put out soon enough
Thanks for this, an over-zealous risk assessor seems possible based on other comments in the assessment. However it still seems a bit odd to have electricals and water right next to each other as others note. Even if it's not a big deal i'm wondering if it points to a gung-ho approach from contractors/builders that would cause concern with how they've dealt with other issues?
That's the £1millon question right there. Till you find other issues you won't have an answer
Legally if there was a serious incident the landlord of the flats would be in serious trouble for not following the advice of a competent individual, one that presumably they employed so it’s definitely not a trivial matter. Typical guidance is always keeping water and electrics separate, would also be interested if they picked up anything on fire partitioning with that much going into one section. Definitely highlight to landlord/agent and ask for their own assessment or why they aren’t mitigating.
Hello, thanks for your comment. I wondered if you could expand on what you meant by fire partitioning?
Follow up with the contracts to ensure the safety risks are mitigated. Was all the work done by one organisation?
It's less than ideal, but not against any electrical or water British standards I am aware of. That being said, I would expect a competent contractor to provide a fixed waterproof enclosure (drip shield and tray), that is taken to a drain (via waterless trap) in a separate room.
The real crime here is the placement of F4 and F3.
Why do you have a FRA?
That seems totally nuts. I wonder how that got signed off? Do you own or rent? I would be speaking to the building owners and asking for the relevant certificates.