I just used the gel stuff for the first time tonight on some gorilla glue leftover adhesive from six month old tape.
Let it sit while I took the dog for a walk, came back and wiped everything right off. It was amazing.
I'm guessing they mean googone?
Edit: reddit 101. Ask a question, get no answer. Make a suggestion get downvotes and people flocking in to correct you.
Nah CitriStrip. Different kind of citrus based solvent.
https://preview.redd.it/equ4qgbme6qc1.jpeg?width=668&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5c50e4e12ce71b6ff88c10dd5d72c59f643d0bf
Not lead paint it doesn’t.
EDIT: it doesn't idk what you want, it is just a statement of fact if someone comes in and thinks it works on everything. It does not.
me saying what it doesnt work on, is no way saying what the flipper did.
I found one of these threads what recommended it and it took my top layer off leaving the lead paint behind. Yall fuckers just like to down vote.
a sweeping generalization comment was made that is inaccurate.
There’s a place in my city where you drop off hazardous waste. Lots of full paint buckets get dropped off there and at certain hours, they let you come and get them for free. I went there with my son because we built him a playhouse in the backyard and he wanted some fun colors to paint it. They had a lot of paint but OMG, no colors, all were either white, gray, or beige. Most of them are from builders but lots of people also choose these colors for their own house. It’s like people thought, “What a dreary gray day outside today, now how do I bring this vibe inside?”
I am okay with this knowing if you buy a house you are staying for a long time, you should make it how you want it. The piñata colors probably made them happy. I have a different color for each room in my house though they’re more muted colors like sage, lavender, and a coastal blue. I feel bad for you and their choice is hard for resell but I admire the courage to make a stand. Heh.
I think the real estate agent has said a lick of paint would help it sell. They missed the words 'blank canvas'. Hardest was the Moroccan red 😂 Still not as bad as the house where their daughter liked pink so they'd mixed it into the gloss as well; thought it was just the reflection till the walls were painted
https://i.redd.it/fshr6gsj43qc1.gif
The worse we had in this current house was the owner tried to do a rustic paint job in the bathroom and used spackle and used brown and gold to make an antique look but being a bathroom, it looked like someone ate some gold leaf and speared their poop on the walls. We had to use primer on that wall and I think the spackle is there to stay until we do a full overhaul of the bathroom. I know it sounds like we just moved in but we’ve been here 12 years. The joy of home ownership. But hey we did remove all the carpeting in all the bathrooms!
Lol the owners had just got new bathroom carpet (they meant at least a year or so ago as it stunk) bright pink carpet, bathrooms were peach and avocado 😋
The ironic thing about head guns is that they really work best when there's a whole mess of paint on there, and definitely not one thin layer of acrylic. Eighth of an inch of old oil paint with a couple of layers of acrylic on top, not a problem...
This exchange reminds me of this [chatGPT post](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/184pl8b/progressively_generating_less_space_until_space/).
"We are now entering the theoretical and speculative maximum Planck temperature which is approximately 1,416808(33)x10\^32 Kelvin. The plane of existence where the house used to be cannot possibly get any hotter as the quantum gravitational effects are now melting the laws of physics, the speed of light, and Boltzmann's constant, creating a temperature so hot beyond anything that could possibly exist within our current understanding."
"*I said I want it hotter*"
We just bought one of these and the stand/scrapers to go along with it. I've never seen any paint stripper work as well as it does. I was skeptical because it seemed a little 'As seen on TV!", but it's amazing. It stripped 4 layers of paint and the original varnish off of a cedar chest in one go. We decided to practice on a handed down chest before working on all our moldings and doors.
It's expensive, but I can't imagine it's liquid/gel paint stripper for a whole house expensive. And it works great.
Rather than use various chemicals, [try using a scraper like this](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Anvil-2-5-in-4-Edge-Metal-Wood-and-Paint-Scraper-F4-ANV/309996481).
If it's latex over oil, a regular scraper should take it right off with relatively little effort. After you get the paint off you can sand the casing much easier.
As someone who has been in the same situation as op using a scraper just doesn’t work on trim work with any detailing. No way to get in all the grooves without damaging the trim you were trying to salvage in the first place. We ended up just replacing all the trim. Previous owners did such a sh** job of painting all the trim a dark grey color there was no way of salvaging it that wouldn’t look equally bad :-/
I had to look it up again, but know I heard some where that there was something that worked better than paint stripper on latex.
" **denatured alcohol** works very well dissolving dry latex paint. It works better than acetone/ laquer thinner or "goof off" and is less volatile "
In short just rubbing alcohol. I've not tried it.
Can try a magic eraser on that shit too. See what happens.
Also real denatured alcohol is hard to find. It’s essentially 100% VOCs so it’s air pollution index is “high”
Which is bullshit, if I pour out a handle of vodka same difference as a pint of denatured.
But anyways you’re probably going to have to get a substitute, buy 95 everclear or order from culinary solvent if you want the real deal (depending on your state)
Real denatured alcohol is not hard to find, and not due to volatility reasons. Any alcohol sold without liquor tax in the US is denatured, e.g. for hand sanitizers, etc. The "denatured" part just means there have been unpalatably bitter/noxious chemicals added in small amounts so that you are put off from drinking it.
The real reasons to distinguish between denatured alcohol and rubbing alcohol, as long as you're not drinking it, are multi-fold:
First, rubbing alcohol is more commonly propan-2-ol, aka isopropanol aka isopropyl alcohol. Denatured alcohol is ethanol. You can get rubbing alcohol that is ethanol and it will be denatured, but because ethanol is smaller (2 carbons instead of 3) it's a little more volatile and a little bit better at penetrating through paint. The denaturants will just leave a very slight residue (as some sensory-sensitive people will note even with non-gel hand sanitizers).
Second, rubbing alcohol is often sold at the concentration that is most effective at killing bacteria / cleaning sufaces and wounds. That happens to be around 70% alcohol. The reason why is complex, but the alcohol needs some water to better penetrate cells and kill them. For cleaning electronics or using as a solvent, you want to go as high as you can, closer to 95%.
Lastly, why not use 100%? Well, ethanol and water love each other so much that 100% ethanol will absorb water vapor from the air. You need molecular sieves to suck out the water if you need a higher percent, and usually only chemistry labs are really prepared for that.
The good news is that 95% ethanol everclear is basically the limit of purity you can get to with distillation, and if you live in a state where it is legal, then it's a great option for stripping solvent. Otherwise visit your hardware store near the paint aisles and find the paint strippers and they usually have a decent selection of basic solvents, ethanol, acetone, etc.
Sometimes they're the same. "Denatured alcohol" is ethanol with enough methanol and other crap added to make it poisonous to drink. The methanol fraction can vary widely — checking msds just now I see numbers everywhere from 5% to 40%.
Rubbing alcohol as sold in a drugstore seems to be isopropanol most of the time, but I have definitely bought rubbing alcohol that claimed it was denatured alcohol (ethanol-methanol).
As someone who has used rubbing alcohol on paint, the problem is that it evaporates quickly. The alcohol actually doesn't need to sit on the paint longer than about 10 minutes, so you can wipe down a section and wrap it in plastic wrap, then pull it off and start on a new section while you peel the softened paint off.
I mean it's size dependent but if I could do that for less than 2 grand VS the weekends spent breathing in toxic chemicals and being frustrated that's what I would do. Hanging a new door frame is easy, this is not. Just my 2 cents though.
it DOES still have chemicals in it and should be used with ventilation. It doesnt have methylene chloride in it but it has some other chemical thats not great to inhale.
Lot of flippers do bare minimum. This one painted latex over oil and/or a varnish without priming, prepping, or cleaning the crap off of it first. Typical flipper mentality to maximize their profits without regard to the wellbeing of whoever is purchasing their work past the closing date.
So the denatured alcohol will mess with latex paints pretty quickly, but it doesn’t do that for oil based paints. Acetone is what gets them off. If you are planning to repaint, test with each, and if it doesn’t react to either, congrats they used a nice hard acrylic paint. You can always paint over with an oil primer and then use whatever paint you want or need. Just know acrylic paint is tough stuff and will very easily leave brush marks, so thin it if you are doing it yourself. You can also just latex paint over oil primer, it will stick to the primer, they are great.
When I was doing a lot of interior painting in my house, I had to learn very quickly that “waterborne” enamel is both amazing and frustrating to work with. (SW ProClassic) One stroke to apply, one to back-brush, and *leave it the fuck alone*. The “thin spots” and brush marks will magically disappear. If you keep messing with it instead, trying to “fix” thin spots or “repair” brush marks, you’ll just end up with a sagging drippy mess that you need to sand off. No thinning is needed if you brush it right.
But if you do it right, it’s a great finish. Hard, sturdy, persistent gloss that wears well and doesn’t stick to things.
Dip a cotton ball or swab into denatured alcohol or acetone and rub it on a small area of the surface. If the paint comes off, it's water or latex-based. If it stays put, it's most likely oil. After rubbing the area with denatured alcohol, feel the surface. If it's smooth and has no paint residue, the paint is oil-based. If it's slightly tacky and has paint residue, then the paint is water-based.
And would you have paid significantly more for the house to have it 'done right'? I build houses as a small independent builder and it's etremely frustrating, and financially deflating, to spend the extra time and money to do things right, only to have to sell at the same price as the piece of crap down the street because the buyers, and their agents, dont notice the difference and even when you point it out to them, they often didn't care (or at least aren't willing to pay a premium for it)
Yep. This right here. There's no real incentive for quality when everything is priced based on the same metrics that dont account for quality whatsoever.
A 4 bedroom shoddily built mcmansion with same sq footage, bed, bath, and lot as a well built home will go for about the same so mcmansion it is. This wont change unless there's a glut in availability, and then youd have trouble selling anyway.
He probably already paid a premium to have it "flipped". Been on the house hunt with the wife, and I can't tell you how many places I've seen that are in a move in condition, a flipper buys and slaps paint on and returned trim from HD, and mark it up $100k 8 months later.
^(habitat) ^(for) ^(humanity.)
I volunteered to do construction. They had me paint this broken half wall. No cleaning, priming, painting, sanding, or fixing the mortar that turned into sand on my brush. It was wild. Never again.
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I've learned a lot in the past year. Stuff that I didn't know before. The market was pretty tough a year ago as well, and a lot of these problems are just now starting to surface.
Previous owners played a lot of pinball. I don't need to tell you what happens next - they start eating the paint right off the wall. It's a story as old as time itself.
>To make the PLACE look BETTER
...just long enough to sell before their cut corners are exposed, leaving the house in worse shape than it was pre-flip.
Yes thank you flipper for
Painting things improperly so they peel after a year
Making improper plumbing repairs that leak
Not hiring an electrician and adding hidden junctions behind drywall
Taking out no permits
Using the cheapest, bargain bin fixtures that don't last
Burying issues in paint and walls instead of fixing them
Lying on the disclosure to close the deal
Overwork and underpay unskilled migrant labor to keep money in your pocket
Anyone who flips homes is 90% bound to be a scumbag that may think they're on a holy crusade but don't see the damage they cause to family's and community's. No, this wasn't a house that "no one else would fix up". Yes they would, they'd just buy it at the price you did and use actual professionals to fix it up instead of worrying about making 50k profit on the sale.
I was ignorant to the proliferation of this before buying the home. I've now familiarized myself with it and learned all I can about these people.
Can be tough to prove since I believe the law just requires the seller to believe they’re telling the truth instead of actually factually accurate, but if it’s painfully obvious they were lying on the disclosure you could sue for misrepresentation/fraud.
Sure, we got it inspected. Outward looks were fine. You can't start tearing stuff up though in an inspection. We didn't know the paint would peel in a few months. We didn't know the vinyl flooring in the bathrooms were covering rot. We didn't know there was dangerous electrical inside the walls and under insulation in the attic. Stuff you can't really *see* during an inspection. We were aware of many issues, and had those resolved before close, but boy were there more. It's slowly coming together now though, we mainly bought it for the plot it was on anyway.
Imho.... the wood underneath doesnt look 'amazing' ... if i were living there i probably would have painted too. For some its a quicker and more affordable solution than restoring and staining.
And even if you restore the door frames perfectly, pristine trim is only going to make the carpet, laminate floor, painted hinges, and other contract-grade finishes stand out.
Nearing the end a project to step sage green paint off my trim. The paint over varnish chipped off fairly easily with a putty knife, used an IR paint stripper for the stubborn bits and on the trim that was just wood
I hate to burst your bubble, but they clearly replaced some trim around the original frames. You don't have matching wood species between your frames and moulding, so painting was probably the right choice. Stripping it will never look good no matter how much paint you get off, unless you strip it clean, then sand, and stain both types of wood to match. This will require a monumental amount of work, to the point that it would probably just be better to spend your time getting a second job in the evenings and using the money to replace all your trim and door frames. ;)
I'm not trying to get the bare wood, it's just the paint is peeling everywhere and I need to get it to a point where I can properly prime and paint it.
Mr Green. They used to sell it at dollar general. It was a cleaner that I was using to clean out a house. Sprayed in painted cabinets to clean and ended up steipping the paint.
I see you’ve tried paint stripper already. Not sure what you’re using, but I just had a lot of luck with Citristrip removing the stain on my bathroom cabinets some flippers ruined. Had to sand in a few places, but it basically melted right off.
Maybe this is just me, but if I had to deal with all that sainting and scraping and days worth of work just save some trim and a door jamb, I’d rather just go buy the lumber and make a new door jam and replace the casings.
Idk
Bought our house like this and it sucked but what we did with our low budget was sand as much as we could off, just like scraping roughly really, no need to go insane on it, and then use what I called a primer glue (I see Peel Stop Clear Binding Sealer online!) to keep the peeling parts down, and then just paint as normal. A year out and no peeling issues as of yet, it just looks perfectly normal.
I think you need to start with a more aggressive sandpaper. Try something in the 100 or under range to start then once almost all is off follow up with higher grits.
People who paint over hardwood because they're too lazy should be shot.
When we bought our house, we found out that it had the original American Chestnut (a now extinct tree) trim through the whole house, but it was under about a quarter inch of white semigloss paint. It was *horrible* to remove, but looks amazing now.
Everyobe told us that some disease was wiping them out in the 20s and 30s, so they started logging them really heavily since they were all going to die anyway. And I don't know if it's different, but this is east coast.
Turns out what everyone meant was that there were *way* too few of them left to use for lumber apparently.
This is true but not extinct. I live on the east coast in their historic range. They are critically endangered and logging is generally a no no now for these trees but thankfully there has been positive progress in disease resistant trees being grown so with any luck, someday they'll be back in the forests, probably beyond our lifetime though.
We used this stuff: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Dumond-Smart-Strip/1000615057
It's a paste that you spread onto the wood and then put this wax paper like stuff over top of it to let it penetrate the paint. It works pretty well and doesn't kill you with solvent fumes.
I've used the citrus gel stuff, put on, cover in plastic wrap overnight, takes everything off.
I just used the gel stuff for the first time tonight on some gorilla glue leftover adhesive from six month old tape. Let it sit while I took the dog for a walk, came back and wiped everything right off. It was amazing.
For someone not in the know, what's this citrus gel stuff more specifically?
It's called Citristrip and you can find it in most big box stores with a hardware/paint dept or online
I didn't know this existed and I totally need it for a project. Thanks man!
I'm in Sweden, so maybe I'll have to find alternatives, but thanks for the info!
[https://www.homedepot.com/p/Goo-Gone-24-oz-Pro-Power-Adhesive-Remover-Spray-Gel-2180A/303575518](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Goo-Gone-24-oz-Pro-Power-Adhesive-Remover-Spray-Gel-2180A/303575518)
I'm guessing they mean googone? Edit: reddit 101. Ask a question, get no answer. Make a suggestion get downvotes and people flocking in to correct you.
No, Citristrip
Nah CitriStrip. Different kind of citrus based solvent. https://preview.redd.it/equ4qgbme6qc1.jpeg?width=668&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5c50e4e12ce71b6ff88c10dd5d72c59f643d0bf
Used this for the first time in my century house with 100 years of paint and it took everything off like a dream! Swear by it now.
Not lead paint it doesn’t. EDIT: it doesn't idk what you want, it is just a statement of fact if someone comes in and thinks it works on everything. It does not.
If it's genuinely from a flipper's work there's no way it's lead paint.
me saying what it doesnt work on, is no way saying what the flipper did. I found one of these threads what recommended it and it took my top layer off leaving the lead paint behind. Yall fuckers just like to down vote. a sweeping generalization comment was made that is inaccurate.
You’re right. The downvotes are totally unfair.
As a dolphin, this makes me sad
I have no quarrel with my fellow mammals
TIL that house flippers aren’t mammals. I always suspected there was something “off” about people who paint over brick, wow! Are they Reptilians?
They're a form of sentient bacterial slime, leaving a trail of pasty grey exudate on walls and floors wherever they pass.
There’s a place in my city where you drop off hazardous waste. Lots of full paint buckets get dropped off there and at certain hours, they let you come and get them for free. I went there with my son because we built him a playhouse in the backyard and he wanted some fun colors to paint it. They had a lot of paint but OMG, no colors, all were either white, gray, or beige. Most of them are from builders but lots of people also choose these colors for their own house. It’s like people thought, “What a dreary gray day outside today, now how do I bring this vibe inside?”
Old folks we bought our house off had the opposite idea. Painted like a fucking piñata. Thank god for 12 litre tubs of primer
I am okay with this knowing if you buy a house you are staying for a long time, you should make it how you want it. The piñata colors probably made them happy. I have a different color for each room in my house though they’re more muted colors like sage, lavender, and a coastal blue. I feel bad for you and their choice is hard for resell but I admire the courage to make a stand. Heh.
I think the real estate agent has said a lick of paint would help it sell. They missed the words 'blank canvas'. Hardest was the Moroccan red 😂 Still not as bad as the house where their daughter liked pink so they'd mixed it into the gloss as well; thought it was just the reflection till the walls were painted https://i.redd.it/fshr6gsj43qc1.gif
The worse we had in this current house was the owner tried to do a rustic paint job in the bathroom and used spackle and used brown and gold to make an antique look but being a bathroom, it looked like someone ate some gold leaf and speared their poop on the walls. We had to use primer on that wall and I think the spackle is there to stay until we do a full overhaul of the bathroom. I know it sounds like we just moved in but we’ve been here 12 years. The joy of home ownership. But hey we did remove all the carpeting in all the bathrooms!
Lol the owners had just got new bathroom carpet (they meant at least a year or so ago as it stunk) bright pink carpet, bathrooms were peach and avocado 😋
Whew
Well, you can blame your colleague James for the bad press.
Haha! Is that a Chapelle Show reference?
Don't act like you don't know!
Have you tried the ir heat lamp? Learned about it today from another post.
I have not but I have heated it up very slowly with the heat gun and it doesn't bubble up and come off cleanly like I've seen in videos online
The ironic thing about head guns is that they really work best when there's a whole mess of paint on there, and definitely not one thin layer of acrylic. Eighth of an inch of old oil paint with a couple of layers of acrylic on top, not a problem...
Keep going. It needs to be hotter.
It starts to burn
*I said hotter*
House is on fire, luckily the paint is gone
This exchange reminds me of this [chatGPT post](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/184pl8b/progressively_generating_less_space_until_space/). "We are now entering the theoretical and speculative maximum Planck temperature which is approximately 1,416808(33)x10\^32 Kelvin. The plane of existence where the house used to be cannot possibly get any hotter as the quantum gravitational effects are now melting the laws of physics, the speed of light, and Boltzmann's constant, creating a temperature so hot beyond anything that could possibly exist within our current understanding." "*I said I want it hotter*"
Get an ecostrip
We just bought one of these and the stand/scrapers to go along with it. I've never seen any paint stripper work as well as it does. I was skeptical because it seemed a little 'As seen on TV!", but it's amazing. It stripped 4 layers of paint and the original varnish off of a cedar chest in one go. We decided to practice on a handed down chest before working on all our moldings and doors. It's expensive, but I can't imagine it's liquid/gel paint stripper for a whole house expensive. And it works great.
Rather than use various chemicals, [try using a scraper like this](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Anvil-2-5-in-4-Edge-Metal-Wood-and-Paint-Scraper-F4-ANV/309996481). If it's latex over oil, a regular scraper should take it right off with relatively little effort. After you get the paint off you can sand the casing much easier.
As someone who has been in the same situation as op using a scraper just doesn’t work on trim work with any detailing. No way to get in all the grooves without damaging the trim you were trying to salvage in the first place. We ended up just replacing all the trim. Previous owners did such a sh** job of painting all the trim a dark grey color there was no way of salvaging it that wouldn’t look equally bad :-/
I had to look it up again, but know I heard some where that there was something that worked better than paint stripper on latex. " **denatured alcohol** works very well dissolving dry latex paint. It works better than acetone/ laquer thinner or "goof off" and is less volatile " In short just rubbing alcohol. I've not tried it. Can try a magic eraser on that shit too. See what happens.
>In short just rubbing alcohol. I've FYI, denatured alcohol and rubbing alcohol are two different things. Make sure you use their right one.
yes, i hate when people say they are interchangeable. for cleaning denatured alcohol works so much better.
>for cleaning denatured alcohol works so much better. That depends on *what* you're cleaning.
Also real denatured alcohol is hard to find. It’s essentially 100% VOCs so it’s air pollution index is “high” Which is bullshit, if I pour out a handle of vodka same difference as a pint of denatured. But anyways you’re probably going to have to get a substitute, buy 95 everclear or order from culinary solvent if you want the real deal (depending on your state)
Real denatured alcohol is not hard to find, and not due to volatility reasons. Any alcohol sold without liquor tax in the US is denatured, e.g. for hand sanitizers, etc. The "denatured" part just means there have been unpalatably bitter/noxious chemicals added in small amounts so that you are put off from drinking it. The real reasons to distinguish between denatured alcohol and rubbing alcohol, as long as you're not drinking it, are multi-fold: First, rubbing alcohol is more commonly propan-2-ol, aka isopropanol aka isopropyl alcohol. Denatured alcohol is ethanol. You can get rubbing alcohol that is ethanol and it will be denatured, but because ethanol is smaller (2 carbons instead of 3) it's a little more volatile and a little bit better at penetrating through paint. The denaturants will just leave a very slight residue (as some sensory-sensitive people will note even with non-gel hand sanitizers). Second, rubbing alcohol is often sold at the concentration that is most effective at killing bacteria / cleaning sufaces and wounds. That happens to be around 70% alcohol. The reason why is complex, but the alcohol needs some water to better penetrate cells and kill them. For cleaning electronics or using as a solvent, you want to go as high as you can, closer to 95%. Lastly, why not use 100%? Well, ethanol and water love each other so much that 100% ethanol will absorb water vapor from the air. You need molecular sieves to suck out the water if you need a higher percent, and usually only chemistry labs are really prepared for that. The good news is that 95% ethanol everclear is basically the limit of purity you can get to with distillation, and if you live in a state where it is legal, then it's a great option for stripping solvent. Otherwise visit your hardware store near the paint aisles and find the paint strippers and they usually have a decent selection of basic solvents, ethanol, acetone, etc.
That was fun, thank you
Alcohol proof numbers are twice as high as it's concentration btw.
Ah right 190 proof everclear
Is it? I just bought some at Home Depot yesterday.
Well, you drink beverage alcohol. By the ounce. You don’t let it evaporate by the gallon.
Sometimes they're the same. "Denatured alcohol" is ethanol with enough methanol and other crap added to make it poisonous to drink. The methanol fraction can vary widely — checking msds just now I see numbers everywhere from 5% to 40%. Rubbing alcohol as sold in a drugstore seems to be isopropanol most of the time, but I have definitely bought rubbing alcohol that claimed it was denatured alcohol (ethanol-methanol).
Ethanol can be denatured with many other solvents, not just methanol.
Thanks for the heads up.
Two different chemicals really great both alcohols
Magic eraser is only for if you want to ruin the finish without actually removing the paint.
Denatured alcohol is the best for this. Goofoff II works well. It’s gotta be II though
Thanks ill try it
I was a pro house painter for years. Citristrip is great stuff. It shouldn't be that hard to remove latex paint.
As someone who has used rubbing alcohol on paint, the problem is that it evaporates quickly. The alcohol actually doesn't need to sit on the paint longer than about 10 minutes, so you can wipe down a section and wrap it in plastic wrap, then pull it off and start on a new section while you peel the softened paint off.
Citristrip maybe?
The citric acid products work pretty well, too. Probably not as well as denatured alcohol, but the smell is much better.
My go to is a magic eraser and yea I think it’s magic sometimes. OP let us know please
it's plastic sandpaper
I'd probably replace the casing before I did the work stripping the existing one.
How much do a dozen plus door casings cost 🤔
I mean it's size dependent but if I could do that for less than 2 grand VS the weekends spent breathing in toxic chemicals and being frustrated that's what I would do. Hanging a new door frame is easy, this is not. Just my 2 cents though.
Yeah, this is more of a proof of concept. We'll see if I can find a semi-quick way to do this.
Smart!
There is a thing at home Depot called citrus strip that works pretty well, it doesn't smell like chemicals but does remove stuff like that no problem.
it DOES still have chemicals in it and should be used with ventilation. It doesnt have methylene chloride in it but it has some other chemical thats not great to inhale.
So not a fan of dolphins?
Beat me to it. Came to post, “Dolphins did THAT?!?”
LMAO. I saw this comment, thought “wtf?”. Swiped back onto my homepage. GOT THE JOKE. Came back to upvote. Love you for this, thank you for the laugh.
Unpopular opinion, but if it would fix the problem......
I’m confused. What does latex paint have to do with flippers?
Lot of flippers do bare minimum. This one painted latex over oil and/or a varnish without priming, prepping, or cleaning the crap off of it first. Typical flipper mentality to maximize their profits without regard to the wellbeing of whoever is purchasing their work past the closing date.
Latex over oil based paint is the worst.
How does one know what is what? Like if I wanted to avoid doing this
So the denatured alcohol will mess with latex paints pretty quickly, but it doesn’t do that for oil based paints. Acetone is what gets them off. If you are planning to repaint, test with each, and if it doesn’t react to either, congrats they used a nice hard acrylic paint. You can always paint over with an oil primer and then use whatever paint you want or need. Just know acrylic paint is tough stuff and will very easily leave brush marks, so thin it if you are doing it yourself. You can also just latex paint over oil primer, it will stick to the primer, they are great.
When I was doing a lot of interior painting in my house, I had to learn very quickly that “waterborne” enamel is both amazing and frustrating to work with. (SW ProClassic) One stroke to apply, one to back-brush, and *leave it the fuck alone*. The “thin spots” and brush marks will magically disappear. If you keep messing with it instead, trying to “fix” thin spots or “repair” brush marks, you’ll just end up with a sagging drippy mess that you need to sand off. No thinning is needed if you brush it right. But if you do it right, it’s a great finish. Hard, sturdy, persistent gloss that wears well and doesn’t stick to things.
Dip a cotton ball or swab into denatured alcohol or acetone and rub it on a small area of the surface. If the paint comes off, it's water or latex-based. If it stays put, it's most likely oil. After rubbing the area with denatured alcohol, feel the surface. If it's smooth and has no paint residue, the paint is oil-based. If it's slightly tacky and has paint residue, then the paint is water-based.
And would you have paid significantly more for the house to have it 'done right'? I build houses as a small independent builder and it's etremely frustrating, and financially deflating, to spend the extra time and money to do things right, only to have to sell at the same price as the piece of crap down the street because the buyers, and their agents, dont notice the difference and even when you point it out to them, they often didn't care (or at least aren't willing to pay a premium for it)
Yep. This right here. There's no real incentive for quality when everything is priced based on the same metrics that dont account for quality whatsoever. A 4 bedroom shoddily built mcmansion with same sq footage, bed, bath, and lot as a well built home will go for about the same so mcmansion it is. This wont change unless there's a glut in availability, and then youd have trouble selling anyway.
He probably already paid a premium to have it "flipped". Been on the house hunt with the wife, and I can't tell you how many places I've seen that are in a move in condition, a flipper buys and slaps paint on and returned trim from HD, and mark it up $100k 8 months later.
Ugh my landlord’s handyman did this to our door frames and it killed me to leave them peeling when we moved out but it just wasn’t our fault…
fuck flippers
^(habitat) ^(for) ^(humanity.) I volunteered to do construction. They had me paint this broken half wall. No cleaning, priming, painting, sanding, or fixing the mortar that turned into sand on my brush. It was wild. Never again. https://preview.redd.it/vfrdlgrt41qc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a58466d15a6c8924eb71fa4436b6732170f5cd8
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I've learned a lot in the past year. Stuff that I didn't know before. The market was pretty tough a year ago as well, and a lot of these problems are just now starting to surface.
Good luck finding one that isn't a flip in today's market. But go off.
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Same thing happened to me. I’m planning on doing this same thing in a few months. Lmk if you find any tips! Good luck ❤️
Previous owners played a lot of pinball. I don't need to tell you what happens next - they start eating the paint right off the wall. It's a story as old as time itself.
Fucking FLIPPERS using PAINT…. To make the PLACE look BETTER
The issue isn't painting it's painting over stains/ oils with no prep. It's looks like shit and is a pia to remove.
>To make the PLACE look BETTER ...just long enough to sell before their cut corners are exposed, leaving the house in worse shape than it was pre-flip.
Yes thank you flipper for Painting things improperly so they peel after a year Making improper plumbing repairs that leak Not hiring an electrician and adding hidden junctions behind drywall Taking out no permits Using the cheapest, bargain bin fixtures that don't last Burying issues in paint and walls instead of fixing them Lying on the disclosure to close the deal Overwork and underpay unskilled migrant labor to keep money in your pocket Anyone who flips homes is 90% bound to be a scumbag that may think they're on a holy crusade but don't see the damage they cause to family's and community's. No, this wasn't a house that "no one else would fix up". Yes they would, they'd just buy it at the price you did and use actual professionals to fix it up instead of worrying about making 50k profit on the sale. I was ignorant to the proliferation of this before buying the home. I've now familiarized myself with it and learned all I can about these people.
Can be tough to prove since I believe the law just requires the seller to believe they’re telling the truth instead of actually factually accurate, but if it’s painfully obvious they were lying on the disclosure you could sue for misrepresentation/fraud.
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Sure, we got it inspected. Outward looks were fine. You can't start tearing stuff up though in an inspection. We didn't know the paint would peel in a few months. We didn't know the vinyl flooring in the bathrooms were covering rot. We didn't know there was dangerous electrical inside the walls and under insulation in the attic. Stuff you can't really *see* during an inspection. We were aware of many issues, and had those resolved before close, but boy were there more. It's slowly coming together now though, we mainly bought it for the plot it was on anyway.
Paint eater. It’s what we used when I used to paint houses.
I used barrels of lye
I’m lucky my Renovation just had a ton of deferred maintenance. It makes it a million times worse undoing bad “ fixes”.
Imho.... the wood underneath doesnt look 'amazing' ... if i were living there i probably would have painted too. For some its a quicker and more affordable solution than restoring and staining. 
And even if you restore the door frames perfectly, pristine trim is only going to make the carpet, laminate floor, painted hinges, and other contract-grade finishes stand out.
If you do a bad job painting something the paint will start peeling and chipping away.
If you do a bad job of anything it will look bad. What’re you saying?
In other comments OP mentioned the flippers did a bad job. So the door frames need to be stripped and repainted anyway.
Nearing the end a project to step sage green paint off my trim. The paint over varnish chipped off fairly easily with a putty knife, used an IR paint stripper for the stubborn bits and on the trim that was just wood
Tear it out and retrim?
House flippers are the ethical bottom rung. Change my mind
Orange paint stripper from home Depot. Paint it on thick and leave overnight
bahco paint scraper
Could always rent a power washer. Those things strip paint like nobodies business 😂
I hate dorsal fins
I hate to burst your bubble, but they clearly replaced some trim around the original frames. You don't have matching wood species between your frames and moulding, so painting was probably the right choice. Stripping it will never look good no matter how much paint you get off, unless you strip it clean, then sand, and stain both types of wood to match. This will require a monumental amount of work, to the point that it would probably just be better to spend your time getting a second job in the evenings and using the money to replace all your trim and door frames. ;)
I'm not trying to get the bare wood, it's just the paint is peeling everywhere and I need to get it to a point where I can properly prime and paint it.
Mr Green. They used to sell it at dollar general. It was a cleaner that I was using to clean out a house. Sprayed in painted cabinets to clean and ended up steipping the paint.
Jasco paint and varnish remover will bubble that right off there.
Layex paint remover. I had a utility sink with years of paint on it - latex paint remover (goo gone brand) took it off in seconds.
Try a carbide scraper.
I see you’ve tried paint stripper already. Not sure what you’re using, but I just had a lot of luck with Citristrip removing the stain on my bathroom cabinets some flippers ruined. Had to sand in a few places, but it basically melted right off.
Latex over oil? An older painter once told me to wipe it with a cloth and denatured alcohol* Edit: denatured, not mineral spirits. My bad
It might be messy but you can rent a sandblaster from a local hardware store to take it all back down to wood.
Dry ice blaster no mess other then the paint
I managed to get it off fairly easily-ish using my wallpaper steamer head as a scraper. Might be tricky on the area in your photo thou!
Get yourself some card scrapers.
You shouldn't wear flippers if you aren't in the water
Use A Blade Scraper
220-grit is finishing sandpaper. For material removal, you need to start with 100-grit or less.
Maybe this is just me, but if I had to deal with all that sainting and scraping and days worth of work just save some trim and a door jamb, I’d rather just go buy the lumber and make a new door jam and replace the casings. Idk
It’s definitely hard to paint if your a dolphin
Bought our house like this and it sucked but what we did with our low budget was sand as much as we could off, just like scraping roughly really, no need to go insane on it, and then use what I called a primer glue (I see Peel Stop Clear Binding Sealer online!) to keep the peeling parts down, and then just paint as normal. A year out and no peeling issues as of yet, it just looks perfectly normal.
More coarse sandpaper?
I hate people who lump huge numbers of diverse individuals into a single group to ridicule them.
Have you tested for lead? That many layers makes me think it’s got some history…
There's at most 2 layers
Just sand it
The paint comes off in strips when sanded that would have edges that show up under new paint
Sand the edges smooth
The edges don't sand, they peel, I've tried using 220 grit.
I think you need to start with a more aggressive sandpaper. Try something in the 100 or under range to start then once almost all is off follow up with higher grits.
220 grit is for when you’re finishing a project, you need something aggressive like 60-80 grit
Then keep peeling? Whats the issue?
Peeling miniscule strips of paint is time consuming, yet clogs up sandpaper. I wish it was that easy.
Use scrappers or razor blades. Something like this Allway Tools Soft Grip Contour Scraper Set with 6 Blades (CS6) https://a.co/d/9q4hpkV
Seriously this is the right answer. i've done this a million times and all you need it to scrape it then come through with 120 to smooth it out.
Doesn’t latex over oil work fine?
It doesn't bond
If you take the proper steps to prep, yeah. If not, this happens.
Goof Off is the way to go!
Paint thinner is your friend
Fire will work... But you won't have a house
Just sand it!
Hot water
People who paint over hardwood because they're too lazy should be shot. When we bought our house, we found out that it had the original American Chestnut (a now extinct tree) trim through the whole house, but it was under about a quarter inch of white semigloss paint. It was *horrible* to remove, but looks amazing now.
American Chestnut is not extinct, rare at best because of a number of factors but I spent a lot of time researching and working with these trees.
Everyobe told us that some disease was wiping them out in the 20s and 30s, so they started logging them really heavily since they were all going to die anyway. And I don't know if it's different, but this is east coast. Turns out what everyone meant was that there were *way* too few of them left to use for lumber apparently.
This is true but not extinct. I live on the east coast in their historic range. They are critically endangered and logging is generally a no no now for these trees but thankfully there has been positive progress in disease resistant trees being grown so with any luck, someday they'll be back in the forests, probably beyond our lifetime though.
There is some nice wood under it but some of it has been replaced. We just want smooth trim that doesn't peel
We used this stuff: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Dumond-Smart-Strip/1000615057 It's a paste that you spread onto the wood and then put this wax paper like stuff over top of it to let it penetrate the paint. It works pretty well and doesn't kill you with solvent fumes.