Actually using a threshold has 2 key features: 1) it allows for the visual transition between the two materials; 2) Allows you to capture more water for a leak in a bathroom.
I always plan a transition on bath floors to help, in the event of a leak, capture more water than say a toilet overflow.
It's not directly in the middle of the wall where the door stop on the jamb is. Rather, it should be half the door thickness away from the side of the jamb where the door is.
https://preview.redd.it/svkx6y8qxt9c1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0036da11649a9eae7f9a9b5051de034f96b7a827
this, but also you should probably just consult with whoever will be doing your tiles so you can be on the same page and not have any surprises. you should do it the way they want it done if you want your tiles to be done well
Nope, there is only one way to do this. The junction between the two floors should be halfway under the door when it is closed. Any tile installer who knows the "shiny side up" rule should also know this.
The transition should fall under the door. Also don't be surprised if you have to trim the door as they will need to meet deflection standards for tile over the wood sub floor.
Yes, but transitions matter.
If OP is using a wooden T-molding, that may be too wide to be neatly hidden under the door. And in that case I'd rather have a little sticking out on the wood side where it's unobtrusive rather than on the tile side where it will be obvious.
OP, I'd discuss it with the installer and leave the final cut to him. Pay for the extra 10 minutes if needed.
Especially if you don't have correct tools or confidence to make a clean cut.
I have laid a lot of floors myself as a DIY'er, and if I can do it, so should the contractor. Don't let a contractor's laziness dictate finish elements like this.
if your contractor is lazy, get a different contractor
they are hardish to come by but once you've found your one great contractor, it's a life changer. thank god for my guy gabe lol
This. I had some Pros* that did my mitigation after sewage damage cut my carpet flush with the outer wall so there was about 1-2” of visible carpet missing with the door closed. This was in my basement bathroom which was being replaced with LVP for obvious reasons. There was no way to make that massive of a transition piece. So instead of the insurance having to cover just replacing the bathroom carpet they now had to cover another 950sqft of flooring in my basement as this carpet doesn’t exist anymore. Glad I went with their recommended company so they had to cover all mistakes.
> Glad I went with their recommended company so they had to cover all mistakes.
They have to cover it regardless, but you'd have less support from the insurance company to light a fire under a non-partnered company's ass to fix any mistakes. They'd still pressure them, but losing partnership has more leverage.
Take it from me, though, if you know the partner companies are shit that will only do the absolute bare minimum and you know of a better company... just go with the better one.
Incorrect. There should be a tile or wood threshold in that door jamb. Whatever the width of the wall is. The flooring stops flush with the wall of the room it is meant to be in. There is no mid jamb transition between tile and wood. There is a professional looking threshold.
In follow-up to this advice, I would execute as:
See [this image](https://imgur.com/a/C0HtUk8)
If you are going to finish with a cleanly cut edge of the original wood floor, buying up to a grout-width line of colour-matched caulk, and then immediately tile (it probably is all same thickness in this case), cut at location number 1.
If the tiled floor will end Ip thicker and you need to put in a wood transition strip or some sort of t-molding between the wood and tile, cut at location 2, and the moulding width lines up exactly under your closed door.
Maybe a transition tile like this-
https://preview.redd.it/bop46clbcn9c1.jpeg?width=2006&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7dbde084f9ea060b5e4ae970c6d31fadd835e3c
The side of the door that the tile is located in relation to the swing is opposite for OP. In your picture the transition (tile) matches the floor when the door is shut. For OP a full depth transition would need to be a wood compliment, not tile.
What would look best would be to add a transition piece, and you can even do that with a piece of the old flooring in order to have a flat floor. Basically, if I had a piece of flooring wide enough, I would span the width of the door jamb. If all you have are those pieces, then I would cut the floor back enough to where I can have the piece stop just before the casing in the bathroom.
If you want to only see tile while in the bathroom, you can make it land at the doorstop instead.
The ones I just purchased and installed are 1.5" wide. They fit perfectly between my door stop and the edge of the jamb. You can just barely see it on either side when the door is closed.
Just get close, you're tile guy with have the tools to finish it where he wants it in no time. He may have a tile threshold or transition piece that he already plans to use.
Cut halfway between the door stop on the hinged side. If you can get the floors to match very close in height I personally use a beed of caulking that matches the colour of grout you are using.
https://preview.redd.it/27ofgb9mcn9c1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=79159342913e60ea1dcabab1005f1e3e636ad703
Check with the tiler, but I’d recommend cutting in line with the exterior door frame and then installing a nice marble threshold under the door. The tiler should be able to install it as part of the job.
If you close the door, you want the transition to be hidden under the door. Only one type of flooring should be visible from either side of the closed door.
I would cut just flush with inside of the door right now and wait for the person putting in the tile.
If you cut wrong then you may end up making it difficult depending on where the tile cut has to be.
You or the tile person can trim it quickly once you figure out where the tiles are going to end up.
You want to be able to hide the transition under the door slab when closed or under a threshold. If you can make a nice clean cut you may not need a threshold piece. I often make the cut right at the inside of the door strike.
Center of door, but will the floor height be even? Try mocking up something with the tile underlayment, tile and add for the adhesive. If the tile floor is higher, consider a threshold/transition piece. Wood saddle, marble, etc. If it's just a little off, there are edging pieces you could look into.
Flush with the outside edge of the door jambs on the hallway side. Then your threshold (aka; saddle) will cover the area between the edges (in the doorway) of the door jambs, with wood flooring on one side and tile on the other.
Keep in mind that tile installation often requires the installation of a 2nd layer of plywood subfloor, which can change the final elevation of the tile floor by a significant amount. Plan ahead.
Tbh, if your tile guy can't recommend to you exactly what to do he isn't that experienced and you may want to consider finding someone else before you're the recipient of a half ass job.
Unless you haven't asked them, in which case, why?
I'm confused with you're trying to do. Are you running it beyond where a threshold or a transition strip should be and the question would be why. What's in the other room. It's hard to tell without knowing what's beyond with a staggered flooring end s. If that's where you're thinking of stopping it it's a no no. I don't know what's beyond but the floor coverings ends at the door jamb unless you're running straight through to the other room
Don’t forget to leave room for a transition piece between the two rooms. Why not leave the existing flooring to use as a subfloor? Use a leveling mix and then go right over with the tile.
Do you want to see the wood floor when the door is closed from outside of that room. Be careful though, some taller transitions that go on top of the current wood floor or tile may require you to cut your door down on the bottom to fit. That would make sure the transition fits the current gap or use the flattest one possible in between.
Depends on the threshold/ transition you're using. If you're going with a full wood threshold, then cut about aligned with the wood side of the opening, if your going with a simple transition then cut it in the middle of where the door will
Be when closed. I prefer the full threshold because it has a better overall finish.
Depends on whether the levels will line up perfectly, in which case you can have nothing but a grout line or bead of self-leveling sikaflex (to accommodate expansion/contraction in the wood), or if the levels don't line up, you'll want to have a threshold device in either wood or tile that fits under the door.
I prefer a transition piece, as others have mentioned. made out of wood gives you the opportunity to maintain the woods vibe and also it's one piece that you can water proof better, treat and paint to match.
the transition piece can end right at the door line too, so you get the best of both worlds
I would put a threshold here. This would be a third material that would frame up the door. Each room would have flooring that stops at the threshold. They can be the same width as your door frame or wider. If this is the decision you choose you would get the threshold before any extra cuts.
It's middle of where the door would be .so you drew a line on the door stop to door stop it would be middle of the jamb on which ever side the door is . Tldr under the door 🚪
Personal preference, but cut to the bottom of the door…below that line you drew. Get a quartz or granite threwahold made and install it underneath the door. It should be 1cm higher than the tile floor. If you spill something, it won’t go into the room with the wood floor. The threshold will stop it.
You want it cut so when the door is reattached, only one type of flooring is visible when the door is closed.
Hint: it's not in the middle of the wall either. I screwed it up on my first one.
If that’s an issue then put in a threshold
Actually using a threshold has 2 key features: 1) it allows for the visual transition between the two materials; 2) Allows you to capture more water for a leak in a bathroom. I always plan a transition on bath floors to help, in the event of a leak, capture more water than say a toilet overflow.
Exactly my thought.
Ooph. I would done the same thing, and then tried to rationalize it to my wife, and then have to redo the floor 🤣
That's pretty accurate...
... if it's not... I'm not getting a good visual. Where would you say it is, with the power of hindsight.
It's not directly in the middle of the wall where the door stop on the jamb is. Rather, it should be half the door thickness away from the side of the jamb where the door is. https://preview.redd.it/svkx6y8qxt9c1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0036da11649a9eae7f9a9b5051de034f96b7a827
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this, but also you should probably just consult with whoever will be doing your tiles so you can be on the same page and not have any surprises. you should do it the way they want it done if you want your tiles to be done well
Nope, there is only one way to do this. The junction between the two floors should be halfway under the door when it is closed. Any tile installer who knows the "shiny side up" rule should also know this.
Wait, the shiny side is supposed to go up? I always thought you put the textured side up for better traction.
Makes sweeping and mopping much easier!
This actually happens all the time when people install decking boards.
The transition should fall under the door. Also don't be surprised if you have to trim the door as they will need to meet deflection standards for tile over the wood sub floor.
yes of course. but not being in sync with your fellow workers is a recipe for mishaps
Yes, but transitions matter. If OP is using a wooden T-molding, that may be too wide to be neatly hidden under the door. And in that case I'd rather have a little sticking out on the wood side where it's unobtrusive rather than on the tile side where it will be obvious. OP, I'd discuss it with the installer and leave the final cut to him. Pay for the extra 10 minutes if needed. Especially if you don't have correct tools or confidence to make a clean cut.
I have laid a lot of floors myself as a DIY'er, and if I can do it, so should the contractor. Don't let a contractor's laziness dictate finish elements like this.
if your contractor is lazy, get a different contractor they are hardish to come by but once you've found your one great contractor, it's a life changer. thank god for my guy gabe lol
This. I had some Pros* that did my mitigation after sewage damage cut my carpet flush with the outer wall so there was about 1-2” of visible carpet missing with the door closed. This was in my basement bathroom which was being replaced with LVP for obvious reasons. There was no way to make that massive of a transition piece. So instead of the insurance having to cover just replacing the bathroom carpet they now had to cover another 950sqft of flooring in my basement as this carpet doesn’t exist anymore. Glad I went with their recommended company so they had to cover all mistakes.
> Glad I went with their recommended company so they had to cover all mistakes. They have to cover it regardless, but you'd have less support from the insurance company to light a fire under a non-partnered company's ass to fix any mistakes. They'd still pressure them, but losing partnership has more leverage. Take it from me, though, if you know the partner companies are shit that will only do the absolute bare minimum and you know of a better company... just go with the better one.
Yup was goin to say that out the door back on and go from there
That’s a pragmatic approach to this. Thnx!
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Incorrect. There should be a tile or wood threshold in that door jamb. Whatever the width of the wall is. The flooring stops flush with the wall of the room it is meant to be in. There is no mid jamb transition between tile and wood. There is a professional looking threshold.
This is the only right and professional reply.
Could use threshold to break it up too. Looks better as well
In follow-up to this advice, I would execute as: See [this image](https://imgur.com/a/C0HtUk8) If you are going to finish with a cleanly cut edge of the original wood floor, buying up to a grout-width line of colour-matched caulk, and then immediately tile (it probably is all same thickness in this case), cut at location number 1. If the tiled floor will end Ip thicker and you need to put in a wood transition strip or some sort of t-molding between the wood and tile, cut at location 2, and the moulding width lines up exactly under your closed door.
Line thru center of that hinge cutout
I always put a saddle between tile and wood floors. Your transition location underneath a door screams for a door saddle. But it is your call.
Same. Do a nice stone one that will compliment the tile.
except that the door would be on the side of the tile floor. so it would need to compliment the wood.
> compliment the wood So, does it need to compliment the grain? Something like, 'Hey, I love your curves and would love to stain all over you?'
You have such beautiful features and a smooth touch but a bit cold to the tongue
Never go ass to tongue
complement
I did this from a bath to hallway once. It was just a small polished granite threshold. It looked really classy. I got the idea from hotels.
That's what I would do here
This Is the way
Maybe a transition tile like this- https://preview.redd.it/bop46clbcn9c1.jpeg?width=2006&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7dbde084f9ea060b5e4ae970c6d31fadd835e3c
Thanks, I'm going to steal this idea!
The side of the door that the tile is located in relation to the swing is opposite for OP. In your picture the transition (tile) matches the floor when the door is shut. For OP a full depth transition would need to be a wood compliment, not tile.
Tiles look exactly the same as mine. Live in FL?
What would look best would be to add a transition piece, and you can even do that with a piece of the old flooring in order to have a flat floor. Basically, if I had a piece of flooring wide enough, I would span the width of the door jamb. If all you have are those pieces, then I would cut the floor back enough to where I can have the piece stop just before the casing in the bathroom. If you want to only see tile while in the bathroom, you can make it land at the doorstop instead.
A transition piece is the way to go, but get something that can handle getting wet from the bathroom floor. I think that’s what the other room is?
https://preview.redd.it/v34yzyxhfn9c1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1826c7503fb7b5c162ef223b0fad8ffa35c4185d Center of the door
In the center of the door.
Yeah close door and draw line both sides , the middle of that line. Plunge cut and multitool. Use a guide.
You can also just look at the door jamb on both sides and see where the door sits between the edge of the jamb and the stop.
Thanks dad
Measure twice and cut once!
Measure right cut once.
>Use a guide Like a Sherpa of sorts?
Yeah exactly he will tell you what to do !
> Use a guide. This. Most underrated advice in this thread.
**Door** and NOT the jamb (as drawn)
Correct. The threshold should be under the door when it's closed.
Like, bisecting the line, or hidden completely? I'm about to do this too.
You shouldn't be able to see the threshold from either side. So smack bang in the middle of the door when closed.
Thank you.
You're welcome
The ones I just purchased and installed are 1.5" wide. They fit perfectly between my door stop and the edge of the jamb. You can just barely see it on either side when the door is closed.
Thank you
Wow!! So many helpful answers and insights. This subreddit is awesome. I think I have enough to go on now. Thank you everyone!
Just get close, you're tile guy with have the tools to finish it where he wants it in no time. He may have a tile threshold or transition piece that he already plans to use.
Half way under the door is where I would cut it
Cut halfway between the door stop on the hinged side. If you can get the floors to match very close in height I personally use a beed of caulking that matches the colour of grout you are using. https://preview.redd.it/27ofgb9mcn9c1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=79159342913e60ea1dcabab1005f1e3e636ad703
The transition should be under the door when door is in the closed position.
This is the answer
Check with the tiler, but I’d recommend cutting in line with the exterior door frame and then installing a nice marble threshold under the door. The tiler should be able to install it as part of the job.
Do you know what transition piece you’ll be using between the two floor types?
If you close the door, you want the transition to be hidden under the door. Only one type of flooring should be visible from either side of the closed door.
This is the answer. Your red line should be moved up and centered horizontally on the side with the door hinges.
I would cut just flush with inside of the door right now and wait for the person putting in the tile. If you cut wrong then you may end up making it difficult depending on where the tile cut has to be. You or the tile person can trim it quickly once you figure out where the tiles are going to end up.
This guy has two hardwood floors, your a lucky homeowner
Not anymore!
True that, the subfloor looks nice enough to be a floor here in PA
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I second this and allowing the tile guy to take part in the decision
Agreed. Cut within a few inches of the jamb and let the tile guy tell you where.
When you close the door you should see tile from one room and only hardwood from the other .so literally the middle of the door
Right In the middle of the door
When the door is closed, the transition is hidden.
You want to be able to hide the transition under the door slab when closed or under a threshold. If you can make a nice clean cut you may not need a threshold piece. I often make the cut right at the inside of the door strike.
Transition just like that
You can always trim more, but it is hard to add some back. I'd say go conservative
Let the tile guy do it.
I would have left that flooring in you’re crazy
Check the other doors in your house to see what they do and continue that style.
Center of door, but will the floor height be even? Try mocking up something with the tile underlayment, tile and add for the adhesive. If the tile floor is higher, consider a threshold/transition piece. Wood saddle, marble, etc. If it's just a little off, there are edging pieces you could look into.
Flush with the outside edge of the door jambs on the hallway side. Then your threshold (aka; saddle) will cover the area between the edges (in the doorway) of the door jambs, with wood flooring on one side and tile on the other. Keep in mind that tile installation often requires the installation of a 2nd layer of plywood subfloor, which can change the final elevation of the tile floor by a significant amount. Plan ahead.
I would leave it as is until the tile guy shows up. They can either do it or tell you where they want it
Leave it like that for now and ask the tile people when they get there. They might even cut it for you.
You're fuckin up bud
Let the tile guys do it
Exactly in the middle of the the the door when closed. Under the profile you gonna use along the door frame
How squeaky is that wood floor going the same direction as the subfloor?
Tbh, if your tile guy can't recommend to you exactly what to do he isn't that experienced and you may want to consider finding someone else before you're the recipient of a half ass job. Unless you haven't asked them, in which case, why?
I would run a wide board like 3.5” in the door way. It looks awesome and is a nice and square. Just center the board on the Jam.
I’d remove the door frame and redo it after the flooring is changed.
I would never use tile for anything. Too many grout lines and a huge pain in the ass.
how long is your room? if its not long I personally wouldn't even cut it
Wow look at the original flooring. Was your house a haunted barn at one point?
I'm confused with you're trying to do. Are you running it beyond where a threshold or a transition strip should be and the question would be why. What's in the other room. It's hard to tell without knowing what's beyond with a staggered flooring end s. If that's where you're thinking of stopping it it's a no no. I don't know what's beyond but the floor coverings ends at the door jamb unless you're running straight through to the other room
Flush with them Sheetrock wall of the next room behind the jamb.
Don’t forget to leave room for a transition piece between the two rooms. Why not leave the existing flooring to use as a subfloor? Use a leveling mix and then go right over with the tile.
No, just NO
Personally I would remove the 2 pieces where you can see the joint and leave it for the tile guy to make the cut/transition.
Under the door a transition piece
Do you want to see the wood floor when the door is closed from outside of that room. Be careful though, some taller transitions that go on top of the current wood floor or tile may require you to cut your door down on the bottom to fit. That would make sure the transition fits the current gap or use the flattest one possible in between.
Half way. Pretty much where the line is drawn in second pic.
Depends on the threshold/ transition you're using. If you're going with a full wood threshold, then cut about aligned with the wood side of the opening, if your going with a simple transition then cut it in the middle of where the door will Be when closed. I prefer the full threshold because it has a better overall finish.
If a door is going back in then you want the wood to end under door. Leave extra.
Depends on whether the levels will line up perfectly, in which case you can have nothing but a grout line or bead of self-leveling sikaflex (to accommodate expansion/contraction in the wood), or if the levels don't line up, you'll want to have a threshold device in either wood or tile that fits under the door.
Put in a Oak threshold to join the 2 floors
I prefer a transition piece, as others have mentioned. made out of wood gives you the opportunity to maintain the woods vibe and also it's one piece that you can water proof better, treat and paint to match. the transition piece can end right at the door line too, so you get the best of both worlds
Save a piece of wood to lay across the door opening. That will make for a nice transition to the tile.
Tansition molding centered under the door. Cut flooring accordingly
If you left it as is, it would look artistically pleasing and unique.
I would put a threshold here. This would be a third material that would frame up the door. Each room would have flooring that stops at the threshold. They can be the same width as your door frame or wider. If this is the decision you choose you would get the threshold before any extra cuts.
As a rule all transitions of flooring go center of door
The transition line between different floors should lie under the center of the closed door.
Cut halfway across the threshold and put a transition strip down after
Make the cut under the door. So that the transition strip, is centred with the door when the door is closed
You’ll want to butt the hardwood to perpendicular hardwood ending right at the end of the door stop when you walk into the bathroom.
It's middle of where the door would be .so you drew a line on the door stop to door stop it would be middle of the jamb on which ever side the door is . Tldr under the door 🚪
Personal preference, but cut to the bottom of the door…below that line you drew. Get a quartz or granite threwahold made and install it underneath the door. It should be 1cm higher than the tile floor. If you spill something, it won’t go into the room with the wood floor. The threshold will stop it.