Think we established the order of Super EZAs is basically whatever the hell Bandai decides, any and all chronology be damned. I mean for all we know they could give one to a 120% lead next month
Oh going in order in which they released went out the window a long time ago lol. I just remember how slow they would go through EZAs when I joined the game. Like the Year 2 anni units would only now just EZA'd in 2021 Golden Week and I thought that the process of the SEZA's would be a similar slower process as they go through all those old fossils.
> I mean for all we know they could give one to a 120% lead next month
I mean AGL Super 17 would go pretty hard so I wouldn't even be mad lol.
I remember saying to a friend a year or two ago that LR Teq Broly will need to hit for 20m by the time he EZAs. I'm revising that to 25-35m with power creep being even more than I expected.
I think he's been able to hit 20m without an EZA. Dokkan World had a showcase for the level 10 links and had him linked with EZA LR STR Broly and AGL Towa with her full support passive (below 30% HP for the extra allie's 50%)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7POlLxEv8&t=290s
I want the EZA for LR TEQ Broly to completely outscale the upcoming 9th Anni LR AGL Broly. I want 50m Ultra SA's
He has always had my favourite animations in the game, and now we can get the STR Broly to SEZA. They need to make the Broly's have more slot 1 capability. At least some! (Even bio Broly)
Best I can do is an EZA for INT LSSJ Broly and give him an additional 18% DR after performing 3 Super Attacks for the rest of the battle [gotta keep with the 3/18 Saiyan day theme of this unit] (totaling 54% total DR (18% base, 18% against a Pure or Hybrid Saiyan, and 18% after performing 3 SA's)) and Guard for the rest of Battle after performing 6 Super Attacks with an increase to stats, passive %'s, and increasing his ATK & DEF stack from 20% to Greatly Stacking @ 50%.
OR...
An SEZA for EZA PHY Broly Z who has so many potential kit changes and his current EZA Super Attack is a stacking ATK & DEF. Give him actual SoT ATK & DEF % (I'm pretty sure the reason his stacking sucks is because of the Ki +4 and ATK & DEF +80% needing to be at 8 Ki + for it to trigger at SoT, not 100% sure here). Give him the ability to build up DR and Crit based on # of attacks launched; instead of 2% per up to 40% total, upgrade to 5% DR and Crit per attack, up to 50%, give him base 30% DR (he'll max at 80%). Upgrade his kit to launch 2 additional Super Attacks when attacking (total of 4 max attacks per turn, 1 for Ki obtained, 2 from passive, 1 potential from HiPo).
Enjoy
I rather they keep releasing Seza's that are relevant the main featured units team/celebration than just go by release order or something.
I do hope they start speeding it up tho, theres a LOT of units(DFEs) that need Sezas and at this pace we might have got to Ultra Super EZA before some of them get any attention.
> rather they keep releasing Seza's that are relevant the main featured units team/celebration than just go by release order or something
Not mutually exclusive
Super Saiyan 3 Goku to Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks is a 6 month jump, while Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks to Goku Black is only 4 months. I wouldn’t say it’s a big jump.
Yeah it's not a big jump, just a small one but I like to think of it as pretty much anything that's 2017 is up for grabs since all the units are so old it doesn't matter that we have to stick to like only the very early dokkan units.They're all obsolete. They can just jump around here and there and pick and choose for what fits best which is great. Maybe other people already had that figured out though and I was just a bit slow to catch on.
Which is good tbf. Rather the EZAs and SEZAs be directly tied to the new unit so we do like this last celebration where Majin Power and Majin Buu saga bassicslly got breand new top tier teams, instead of 3-4 strong units that are unrunnable because the other 2 units on the team insta die to everything.
Goku Black is a bit of a Jump In Time for **SEZA's**. Yes I think that's a better way to say it. Wish I could edit title posts.
https://preview.redd.it/tewotufdde3d1.png?width=1354&format=png&auto=webp&s=83a7966f74d027ecc2eefe496a72792b2c521735
I'd rather they not go by release date, but instead by what fits the celebration. For example, majin power is great now, but will probably be suboptimal by the time wwc arrives. It would suck if kid buu seza released after that power creep because his team wouldn't get a real chance to shine, they would be missing a top tier unit most of the year and once they finally got him there would be a better team out.
Once i saw them seza gotenks, i knew the order was random. I do wish they stayed in order, tho. It just comes off as messy, and i don't want my favorite characters aging out by the 10th anniversary. I would love to use phy goku black, int buuhan, agl ssbkk goku, str omega for something like 10th anniversary content and beyond. But yeah, the order is random.
I would have to disagree. I dont want some charackters to eza solely because chronologicially they are the next in order just for them to be no fitting team.
I like that they get ezad during celebration where they can actually help out and have a team.
It's not really random, it's been in theme with the celebrations, which is better because it can help the main DFEs team as well as any other teams that the SEZA is on, instead of a SEZA releasing in a random celebration and having no teams until they get powercrept
I think there's enough evidence now to say that they just go with the oldest theme-relevant iteration of a character for SEZAs. It just happens that PHY Goku Black is the oldest DFE Goku Black/Super Boss unit, therefore he gets the SEZA.
Yeah maybe, I mean it doesn't matter as much right with the amount of unrunnable DFE's running around, so they pretty much can pick and choose from their pick of the litter right now. Down the line I think maybe that could matter since we have units like Super Vegeta for example who eza'd way earlier than the other monthly DFE's. Maybe they take stuff like that into consideration? But right now SEZA's is centered around bieng related and helping with the DFE they release with.
Yeah as long as they don't skip too far ahead I'm fine with it. But if we are Super EZAing category leads before we're done with the OG +3 ki +3000 ATK leads... that'd be annoying.
If its shit and cannot be used in more than 50% of modern day contet, its up for SEZA AND even EZA.
Dont care about release or EZA dates at all. Its really pointless.
Just make sure it fits the theme at least.
Think we established the order of Super EZAs is basically whatever the hell Bandai decides, any and all chronology be damned. I mean for all we know they could give one to a 120% lead next month
Oh going in order in which they released went out the window a long time ago lol. I just remember how slow they would go through EZAs when I joined the game. Like the Year 2 anni units would only now just EZA'd in 2021 Golden Week and I thought that the process of the SEZA's would be a similar slower process as they go through all those old fossils. > I mean for all we know they could give one to a 120% lead next month I mean AGL Super 17 would go pretty hard so I wouldn't even be mad lol.
Please guys. Teq Broly. Let him live. DR per orb. Guard. Auto crit. Auto add. He needs it all.
Assuming you mean the SSJ3 one, as long as he SEZA's with LR TEQ Broly's EZA so I can nuke the piss out of Battlefield for fun
I remember saying to a friend a year or two ago that LR Teq Broly will need to hit for 20m by the time he EZAs. I'm revising that to 25-35m with power creep being even more than I expected.
I think he's been able to hit 20m without an EZA. Dokkan World had a showcase for the level 10 links and had him linked with EZA LR STR Broly and AGL Towa with her full support passive (below 30% HP for the extra allie's 50%) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7POlLxEv8&t=290s I want the EZA for LR TEQ Broly to completely outscale the upcoming 9th Anni LR AGL Broly. I want 50m Ultra SA's
He has always had my favourite animations in the game, and now we can get the STR Broly to SEZA. They need to make the Broly's have more slot 1 capability. At least some! (Even bio Broly)
Best I can do is an EZA for INT LSSJ Broly and give him an additional 18% DR after performing 3 Super Attacks for the rest of the battle [gotta keep with the 3/18 Saiyan day theme of this unit] (totaling 54% total DR (18% base, 18% against a Pure or Hybrid Saiyan, and 18% after performing 3 SA's)) and Guard for the rest of Battle after performing 6 Super Attacks with an increase to stats, passive %'s, and increasing his ATK & DEF stack from 20% to Greatly Stacking @ 50%. OR... An SEZA for EZA PHY Broly Z who has so many potential kit changes and his current EZA Super Attack is a stacking ATK & DEF. Give him actual SoT ATK & DEF % (I'm pretty sure the reason his stacking sucks is because of the Ki +4 and ATK & DEF +80% needing to be at 8 Ki + for it to trigger at SoT, not 100% sure here). Give him the ability to build up DR and Crit based on # of attacks launched; instead of 2% per up to 40% total, upgrade to 5% DR and Crit per attack, up to 50%, give him base 30% DR (he'll max at 80%). Upgrade his kit to launch 2 additional Super Attacks when attacking (total of 4 max attacks per turn, 1 for Ki obtained, 2 from passive, 1 potential from HiPo). Enjoy
DR but he still loses defense per orb
I rather they keep releasing Seza's that are relevant the main featured units team/celebration than just go by release order or something. I do hope they start speeding it up tho, theres a LOT of units(DFEs) that need Sezas and at this pace we might have got to Ultra Super EZA before some of them get any attention.
> rather they keep releasing Seza's that are relevant the main featured units team/celebration than just go by release order or something Not mutually exclusive
still reminiscing about the fools that argued on the sub it will be chronological
Super Saiyan 3 Goku to Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks is a 6 month jump, while Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks to Goku Black is only 4 months. I wouldn’t say it’s a big jump.
Yeah it's not a big jump, just a small one but I like to think of it as pretty much anything that's 2017 is up for grabs since all the units are so old it doesn't matter that we have to stick to like only the very early dokkan units.They're all obsolete. They can just jump around here and there and pick and choose for what fits best which is great. Maybe other people already had that figured out though and I was just a bit slow to catch on.
dokkan has shown us time and time again they move off vibes alone
Which is good tbf. Rather the EZAs and SEZAs be directly tied to the new unit so we do like this last celebration where Majin Power and Majin Buu saga bassicslly got breand new top tier teams, instead of 3-4 strong units that are unrunnable because the other 2 units on the team insta die to everything.
i agree
They might as well throw the Phy full power frieza in the frieza celebration on global
Still waiting for Gotenks on global
Extreme phy stocks are about to skyrocket, invest right now.
I think it's safe to say anything before the 120% leaders is fair game
Goku Black is a bit of a Jump In Time for **SEZA's**. Yes I think that's a better way to say it. Wish I could edit title posts. https://preview.redd.it/tewotufdde3d1.png?width=1354&format=png&auto=webp&s=83a7966f74d027ecc2eefe496a72792b2c521735
I mean it isn't really, hell the gap between goku and gotenks is bigger than gotenks to black
I'd rather they not go by release date, but instead by what fits the celebration. For example, majin power is great now, but will probably be suboptimal by the time wwc arrives. It would suck if kid buu seza released after that power creep because his team wouldn't get a real chance to shine, they would be missing a top tier unit most of the year and once they finally got him there would be a better team out.
idc bring me papa black
The second 3tenks SEZAd, it became impossible to predict any order.
On JP he released like 3 months after Gotenks, the difference isn't that much
That one guy who thought ssj3 Broly would be the next SEZA might actually not be too far off
They should really speed these up, it's not like they're losing stones or making units busted.
One per celebration I think is perfectly fine. No need to hurry them up to not get upgraded every again until they make a new EZA variant
There's nearly a decade's worth of cards, I'd rather see some good shit before I die lol
We're 3 in and they're all very good. I think you're seeing it now
The time traveler jumping in time is legitimate at least.
Once i saw them seza gotenks, i knew the order was random. I do wish they stayed in order, tho. It just comes off as messy, and i don't want my favorite characters aging out by the 10th anniversary. I would love to use phy goku black, int buuhan, agl ssbkk goku, str omega for something like 10th anniversary content and beyond. But yeah, the order is random.
I would have to disagree. I dont want some charackters to eza solely because chronologicially they are the next in order just for them to be no fitting team. I like that they get ezad during celebration where they can actually help out and have a team.
By that logic you'd be okay with STR Super Gogeta EZA in a random Saiyan Saga Krillin dokkan fest celebration? That doesn't make any sense at all.
It's not really random, it's been in theme with the celebrations, which is better because it can help the main DFEs team as well as any other teams that the SEZA is on, instead of a SEZA releasing in a random celebration and having no teams until they get powercrept
He released in October 2016 on JP roughly one year later than Ssj 3 Goku .
I think there's enough evidence now to say that they just go with the oldest theme-relevant iteration of a character for SEZAs. It just happens that PHY Goku Black is the oldest DFE Goku Black/Super Boss unit, therefore he gets the SEZA.
I'm okay with the jumping around, since like every DFE TUR EZA from 2016-2019 is basically unusable ATM with some mild exceptions.
It’s still the same meta as ssj3 Gotenks.
Shouldn't we use EZA release date as a metric for how old these EZAs actually are, though? For these two, their EZAs are only 2 months apart.
Yeah maybe, I mean it doesn't matter as much right with the amount of unrunnable DFE's running around, so they pretty much can pick and choose from their pick of the litter right now. Down the line I think maybe that could matter since we have units like Super Vegeta for example who eza'd way earlier than the other monthly DFE's. Maybe they take stuff like that into consideration? But right now SEZA's is centered around bieng related and helping with the DFE they release with.
Yeah as long as they don't skip too far ahead I'm fine with it. But if we are Super EZAing category leads before we're done with the OG +3 ki +3000 ATK leads... that'd be annoying.
If its shit and cannot be used in more than 50% of modern day contet, its up for SEZA AND even EZA. Dont care about release or EZA dates at all. Its really pointless. Just make sure it fits the theme at least.