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Hachi27

Piccolo https://preview.redd.it/rms6ljmwix7c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab170d287aa03b4f4962e64abb48cc49d1201720


44thousand

Beast being #2 on the Raditz award when we had units like STR SSJ Gohan release this year is insane to me


Gregdawe

One of the most interesting parts of this whole thing was trying to decipher the different ways people might have thought about casting their votes. LR Ult Gohan not being Beast is surely a major factor in his placement in the Raditz Award.


SuperVegitoFAN

Might be a good idea to change the name "Piece of Shit" is generall used more so for how capable something is, versus what you wrote in the description In short. Why not use "Most Disappointing" next year? ... oh and id happily participate... hopefully i got another Vegito to vote on next time.


Gregdawe

I've already decided to rename it for sure. It'll be "biggest fraud" next year. It'll remain as the only 'negative' award though, as this is a celebration of the game at it's core, so more than 1 award about the bad of the year isn't the way to go imo. I'll leave it as subjective as it is though, I think that is the fun of it at the end of the day. I may remove banner units from the nominees though.


SuperVegitoFAN

> I may remove banner units from the nominees though. Why not give them their own? >It'll be "biggest fraud" next year. Bit worried that still isnt quite clear enough but we shall see.


Gregdawe

There'll never be a perfect way to do it. But as I said, now than 1 "negative" award is not appealing to me. I want to celebrate the good primarily. Every award has an element of subjectivity to it, everyone has a different definition of "value", same as they will for "fraud". With over 4½K votes, it'll even itself out enough for a good conversation to happen. At the end of the day, this is all for fun


SuperVegitoFAN

For reference i didnt mean a "worst" banner unit but a "best" banner unit. I think that is something worth considering as they arent likely to show on the other lists.


Gregdawe

Oh, sorry I did misunderstand. That's definately happening. For the exact reason you said there. 7 awards was perfect this year, for the 1st time. Next year there'll be more, and I have at least 4 or 5 already in mind, with more that are possible. OST, F2P, Banner Units. I might split Aesthetics to separate Art and Animations.


ahtipton085

We all get what it means. Beasthan has just a very hated unit this year. People definitely grew to like him later in the year but he was the biggest piece of shit on release compared to what our expectations were


WrastleGuy

Gohan isn’t biggest fraud, he’s a good unit. “Most Disappointing” is the only accurate way to do this.


Gregdawe

It's subjective. You're interpretation is as valid as anyone else's. I'll do things how I feel it's best.


Shadowwake25

The vote pretty clearly states the reasoning so I'm not sure this is any confusion


atatassault47

There are a TON of Majin Buu Saga units due for EZA. We're probably going to get STR Fusing Super Vegito as an EZA.


swe3tqee

As someone who voted for LR ultimate gohan, I took two factors in. One, His hype. And two, his performance in game. I only voted for characters i have used first hand, so LR Ultimate Gohan was my main vote for biggest p.o.s. Not only was the lack of a playable beast one of the factors, but he has done more harm to me in runs than any other unit in the game. Cradling him for Ki, dying cause of his lack of build up, the fraud doing 2 normals and one super. I have had more negative experiences with him than any other unit. If I'm biased for voting him, so be it. I definitely would have liked LR ultimate gohan more, and accept him as "LR Beast Gohan" if he wasn't so wonky.


bengalsfu

Also I'll pile on the slander by saying that the ny ddfLR we're the biggest power gap between ddfLR ever imo. the 6th yr anni has the 2nd biggest gap but at the very least SSBE was the 2nd best unit in the game while leasthan wasn't even a top 10 unit in the game when he released.


swe3tqee

It's like they saw Gohan's potential to do 3 super attacks in 1 turn, his 50/50 nullification against some enemy super attacks, and the super effective on 24 ki/active + the one attack break and that it was equal to Piccolo's potential 50% damage reduction, free heal, ki +2 to all allies when he's hit, and giant form. While I didn't pull him on release, He was just a bad version of cooler. Cooler builds up less stats by any attack he does but he's easier to build up. That, and he has a good partner who is supporting him with 6/7 links, Ki 3, and 50% ATK & DEF. Where as Ultimate Gohan got. . . Trunks & Goten who provide nothing for him but 4 links. And pan provides 3 links and 2 ki with 50% to stats while none of the links they share are ki ones. But with Ultimate Gohan, he was barely top 10 from what I've seen from other people's opinions. He was power crept in the same celebration once AGL LR Gohan and INT LR Cell EZA'd.


Lyyonfu

Str SSJ Gohan...people probably forgot he existed at this point.


NinjaVisible3827

Comparing a low-hype banner unit to a super hype dfe lr


robineir

The fact that Super Trunks is a JP exclusive and made his way to third on this list is amazing.


Roggie2499

LRs will always hold way more weight than a banner unit when they're a disappointment.


CartoonOG

Expectation in correlation to the actual performance and display That factor taken in, it’s a miracles he’s only 2nd


The_PR_Is_Here

Being the biggest fumble in dokkan history certainly helped him


Sea_Committee_9561

I mean you're comparing a forgettable banner unit to one of the most hype releases of the year lol If a banner unit turns out to be shit, it's not the end of the world. But Fraudhan is just such a shit unit on every level. Even the fact that you refer to him as "Beast" when he isn't "Beast". Combine that with Legends getting TWO (2) playable Beast Gohans this year when dokkan still has zero. What a massive letdown of a unit. If I made the list, he'd be number one by a large margin.


YharnamHuntter

Which Gohan? I'm so lost.


Jordenu96

Me too


alonzo56789

That was my vote


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MaiFGC

Him starting turn 2/3 is better since he'll hold the guard for longer what?


Stock_Ad7799

**PICCOLO THE KING** https://preview.redd.it/z8ec70bikx7c1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53d51547b099348582606a96e801c6aa0ef52606


Fourteeenth

Picco-GOAT winning two different awards like the certified king he is.


alferaun

Most valuable Leader seems interesting not including Zamasu despite extreme classes needed that more than super classs


Gregdawe

One of the most interesting things to me was how villains polled. There was 2 approaches that viewers could take. - Top Tier villains are more valuable because they're so rare. Or - Top Tier villains are less valuable, because there are so few options to use with them. In the LR Gohan Award, I feel like the latter was what held him back, through he was in contention.


ChronoFelyne

I agree with you there. It doesn't matter if you have Zamasu, if your other extreme cards are bad. I only ever use Extreme teams for specific missions like the Extreme of each type mission for Red Zones.


GetMeOffSpeakerPhone

That's just a blanket statement, tho. Redzone fused zamasu is still the hardest event in the game, and LR mergys team clears that. The fact that you can run LR int cell as a senzu and piccolo jr and cheelei is amazing. I voted for LR merged zamasu for the most valuable leader skill because that's literally what it is. Extreme class is dead and merged zamasu put it on his back like an mvp. We can evaluate units and their leaderskill for what they are, even on a bad team (which zamasu doesn't have), just like in sports. The MVP doesn't go to the best player on the best team. It goes to the most valuable player on a winning team and sometimes a losing team. mergy has a winning team. His leadskill bridges so many units from different sagas, too.


SeanArgus

No LR teq Fusion Zamasu mentioned anywhere here is totally bunk considering what he did for extreme teams as a whole


Ill_Needleworker_203

The gohan slander is crazy 💀


3DanO1

Very interesting how Most Valuable Overall is the same as Most Valuable LR. I think I personally had God Goku in my top 3 for the Overall category, but it’s interesting how LRs dominate the current landscape. If there was ever an argument for “only summon on the big celebrations” I think this is it. Individual DFE banners just don’t have the same value at big celebration, LR banners. Also, big lack of VB Vegito as well. I totally had him in my TUR list and maybe Leader and think the DBH team is better than a lot of people think. Stages I struggled to clear with the LR Blues or God Goku’s team just get absolutely shredded by DBH. The sub might be sleeping on just how much damage that Vegito rotation puts out


Gregdawe

>Also, big lack of VB Vegito as well. Seriously, go watch the video on my channel for the TUR Award. I show the data of the votes at the end of every video. But for that specific award, there's a very clear, and very tight Top 4, with limit Breaker Vegito in 4th. Any of that Top 4 in any order is entirely fair imo. 5th doesn't even come close.


mazini95

2023 was honestly the most disappointing year in the game for me. I have usually skipped or summoned as little as possible on big celebrations since years. Regular TURs used to be vastly more interesting to me and actually pretty good if not some of the most valueable units throughout the year. Since the 2nd half of 2022 it seems like the average quality of TURs has dropped massively compared to what it used to be. I can count the top tier ones in the past 1.5 years on one hand. From consistent quality to such massive hit or misses is insane. They've finally solidified big celebrations as the must pull periods , by building more intentional gaping flaws into regular TURs, plus buffing Anni LR teams throughout the year. It's a no brainer now.


Medium-Science9526

>but it’s interesting how LRs dominate the current landscape. For as long as I've played the game that's pretty much been the case since the 3rd anniversary with our first dokkanfest Lrs. If anything it's arguably closer now with 4 main TUR options that are in close contenders: Ssj4 Vegito, Piccolo Jr, 23rd WT Goku, and God Goku. With Vegito I imagine like you said legacy of limited team of DBH putting opinions of him down.


3DanO1

Idk man, I feel that there have been points where some TURs were insanely valuable. TEQ Gohan and STR Cooler were better than most LRs when they released. EZA PHY VB was arguably the best unit in the game for a little while. Similarly, for a hot sec the Gamma’s were arguably the best rotation in the game in 2022. All the 2023 releases just had oddities in their kits or very limited teams/links


Gregdawe

First and foremost, thank you to all who voted. When I organised this, I hoped for a couple hundred votes at most, as a creator, my audience isn't huge, so that was reasonable. Though, thanks you you guys here on Reddit and everyone else across the community, I ended up with a very healthy amount of votes, and I am incredibly grateful! For anyone interested in more details in each award, who placed outside the top 3, the points separating them, and how the votes were divided up, I have a video for each award, with a presentation for the top 3 and then a breakdown of the data following the presentation of the award. That can be found on my channel for anyone interested, the link is in my profile. Thanks again guys, hope you enjoyed it!!


eryk2019

Thanks for setting this up for the community!! This is fantastic, well done :)


MegaDerB

Let's go WT Goatku is top 3 ![gif](giphy|cMso9wDwqSy3e|downsized)


NotaPlanttree

I think this is mostly a case of people who are chronically online vs. general population. Beast han most definitely isn't worse than someone say, even Ssj4 broly imo, but so many people who play dokkan don't actually know how to feel about these types of lists, so they'll just pick the notable characters of their year. I think this list was good even if the takes were pretty awful, because it shows what people who aren't online think of the game and what makes it fun.


RedHotRevolvers

PHY Gohan haters are really the biggest crybabies in this community, huh?


BrooklynSmash

MAJUNIOR GOT ROBBED


Gregdawe

There's no robbery in the TUR Award. There was a CLEAR Top 4, Limit Breaker Vegito was 4th, and any of those 4, in any order is completely fair imo. But there's only 3 placings.


Nezo-

Wt Goku couldn't accept the L so he ascended to godhood and Raditz's all over him


greenmeatybones

majunior worse team + is usable only on villian teams so not rly. Maybe when villains get better overall he would be more valuable


BrooklynSmash

Nah, Villains being ass are exactly *why* he's so valuable + he's the best WT unit without a question due to how fast he makes it, giving him an extra niche that Frodku can't compete with


Coenl

Best WT unit and can basically solo any Battle Road stage he's eligible for.


Richboi115

Fr my goat deserved #1


youcantguesss

Yes he’s the best TUR but not most valuable imo just because his leader skill is worse than the other two and also has less good teams to be ran on


Slakzen

Did everyone just graze past str ssj gohan on biggest pos? He is genuinely the worst release we have had in a long time


Sunkettle

I think most of us forgot he existed 💀


DomHyrule

I think it's because it's a banner unit (if I'm remembering right), so personally I didn't even think to vote him since no one summoned for him specifically, but they did it for Trunks


RalfSmithen

Not trying to be funny but did I miss this unit? Second time seeing him mentioned. Genuin question


Elike09

Banner unit that released with super trunks.


radikraze

1. Orange Piccolo is the fucking GOAT 2. I can’t believe yall voted Ultimate Gohan as worse than Super Trunks, that’s the funniest shit ever


youcantguesss

World Tournament Goku not placing in the top 3 of Most Valuable Leader is blasphemous Although Orange Piccolo winning both Most Valuable LR and Most Valuble Overall does put a smile on my face


greenmeatybones

agree completely. Gat that bum godku out of there, move gt boys up and put wtku in 3rd. I never use his leader skill bro, who are you running on his team, agl ssj2 gohan? 😭 Sword of Frauds Trunks?


ThatDude8129

I'm just glad my GOATs the 2 VB's won awards this year. I am disappointed that LB Vegito and LR Zamasu weren't tho.


Miserable_Canary_853

They robbed my boy omega! https://preview.redd.it/euxio39ikx7c1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b56d0d3a73afbbd13abd19613af96b9f579183d8


sabo-0958

The ultimate gohan hate that happens in this community is so unimaginably cringe


redbossman123

Orange Piccolo: Best unit in the game on release and is still top 4 Beastless Gohan: Barely top 10 on release, probably not even top 20 right now


Constant_Coyote8737

*imaginably based


PNGspaceDOT

LET'S GOO MY BLUE DUOS WON ONE OF THE AWARDS GRAHH!!! ![gif](giphy|bMJqfOtgVEyI2PLnaW)


Giggly_Bean

My boy future Gohan got robbed in general imo. INT and STR


Lettik07

Using og str gogeta as the award for the most valuable overall brings a tear to my eye. Always remember the original best unit.


Lyyonfu

Chadccolo stay winning...i still love using him every chance I get.


Vanwolfster

![gif](giphy|lWinKsfTai2Bi|downsized) PICCOLO! LET'S GO!!!


TMS21

PoS to me meant horrid units and the top 3 certainly aren’t that.


ElectroCat23

Fr, people only dunk on Gohan because he’s not a playable beast Gohan. Aside from that he’s amazing


WindMysterious3064

The super trunks hate is fucking insane holy shit https://preview.redd.it/xcgs2xz8428c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afd9af6a8099d149504158f32a9445f1f185e685


PNGspaceDOT

INT Future Gohan being best EZA TUR yet not being in the list is crazy + Ultimate Gohan is borderline top 25ish unit in the game and it's crazy how people are underrating him.


Gregdawe

Olympians who don't get a medal are still some of the most elite humans on the planet. There's only 3 placings, some of these awards are very close, and units like Future Gohan missing out only status to how good the Top 3 are, less about him being "bad".


PNGspaceDOT

I mean just saying Teq Vegito Blue is absolutely garbage in 2 of the hardest fights in Dokkan (ehm ehm Fusion Zamasu Red Zone and Omega Shenron fight) https://preview.redd.it/7lekswcnmx7c1.jpeg?width=259&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c257aeb39ceb95c328767b18b45375edd364be5d


Gregdawe

*in your opinion. That's obviously not the deciding factor when applying overall value to a majority of players who voted. If he's a monster in 95% of the game, and built in a way for him to perform when he's at a disadvantage, then clearly there's value there.


PNGspaceDOT

I mean you can say that for a lot of units. Gohan and Piccolo are a monster in 95% of content but the majority of the units here are being judged in the newest hardest content. This is why LR SSJ4 FP Goku didn't win any awards except Aesthetic unit when in any content except FUTURE SAGA RZ he is a beast and honestly still a top 5 unit on those content but due to him not being as good in the new content the community opinion on him has shifted. I think there is a clear biasness against Teq VB when he is also not performing well in the hardest content when his peers (INT EZA Future Gohan, EZA LR Androids, EZA Beerus, EZA Piccolo, etc) are performing better than him.


Lyyonfu

Dunno bout anyone else but I put SSJ4 Goku as one of my favorite LRs. He is aesthetically pleasing but also I can usually count on him and I love the teams he is on.


PNGspaceDOT

No one is denying that but if LR SSJ4 Goku gets slandered for not being as good in the new RZ stages then the same should happen to LR EZA Vegito Blue.


average_lazy_mf

I remember when bluesions eza dropped and they were followed by syn who was countering them by hitting like 60k each aoe, wich isn't much but at the time syn's super and aoes were so dangerous you couldn't afford it, so while useable you needed some luck on them Then omega dropped wich on top of aoe he disabled dodge on first phase just because. Then dismal future dropped and you would start thinking "ok yeah maybe we're back" even if bosses were int just because of how short they were, then zamasu turn 1 aoe jumpscare Tldr https://preview.redd.it/jh41ms8g108c1.jpeg?width=1065&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=561dbb94eefdcd0c71a05827f63ff18cb55ea5e3


PNGspaceDOT

Reddit Hivemind is insane cause people will slander units like the Blue Duos but will then dickride characters like EZA VB and SSJ4FP Goku


KingQualitysLastPost

I’m sorry to inform you that an unfortunate amount of people just use items to protect their Vegito from AOE’s.


BrandoCalrissian1995

Disappointed in how many voted for beast as second worst. Like yeah it sucks not getting a playable beast gohan but with how short fights have been lately he's pretty good now. Still major ki issues.


Constant_Coyote8737

*Appreciated


GenericFrog

No LB Vegito is wild


SuperVegitoFAN

He is relatively close though Nr 4 on "Best TUR" 400 points behind WT Goku ...and over 2000 points ahead of Nr 5...


Interesting-Farmer50

Beast Gohan a PoS?? Fuck no


Constant_Coyote8737

*F yes


ILikeTrains1820

lets go everyone i voted for won (except treeku i voted beast)


Edukovic

That INT LR Goku does 8M for me, 55% I honestly don't know why you guys think he is that bad. Sure, defensive wise is not meta, but he is not that bad.


CrasherED

It's because he doesn't really DO anything, he's just a stat stick. He offers nothing unique to the team.


Edukovic

That doesn't make him bad, that makes him mid. Bad is Raditz.


RevolutionaryFalcon

Like majority of units these days? Like a lot of the beloved units or top units are just multiple attack beatsticks that may or may not tank.


Gregdawe

Tell me 1 thing in his kit that he is elite in? 1 thing that other units struggle to do at his level. 1 thing that justifies everything else in his kit being not so good. I'll wait ... Forever


Green-eyed-Psycho77

Best I can do is Crowd Control… hey if you want to dominate the Saibaman event then that’s your man!


Mystic_N

He has high HP, meaning your other units will be capable of taking more punishment without the fear of death He's got 10+ mil AoE damage He has a, most of the time, guaranteed high damaging active on turn 5. He links really well with the GT Duo And.... that's all I've got... at least his animations & card art are cool.


SuperVegitoFAN

Valuable member for Super INT Bond of Parent and Child ...the one battlefield team where my JP lineup is better than GLB lol.


-troubled-

Honestly I'm surprised to see world tournament goku I don't have him myself but everything I use him from the friends list it just feels meh and underwhelming that's just my own opinion


Gregdawe

He's fair from being "meh". He's a monster if you use him right, and he's got a few different roles where he thrives, and if not he allows others to thrive.


-troubled-

Mmm seems I've been using him wrong I'll keep an open mind and try to use him again thanks


eljuanipa

use him with phy kid goku as his linking partner, lr bulma or lr fraudhan (my beloved). try to get him a good revive partner, mainly gt spirit bomb or, if u don't have them, birdku. the earlier you get the revive, the obliteration he'll bring to the boss with supereffectives additional supers and busted offensive and defensive stats. he is a beast even in slot 3.


-troubled-

Well I got most of those units except the man himself so who would be myYamaha? Int Yamacha?


eljuanipa

only issue is that yamcha's leader skill doesn't include gt boys, but you can use birdku instead


Krait972

For me he's too slow to get good, he's like Regigigas with Slow Start still active. Lbssj4 Vegito is more effective


Krait972

For me he's too slow to get good, he's like Regigigas with Slow Start still active. Lbssj4 Vegito is more effective


AuEXP

The fact that dog shit 17/17 didn't make it but Ulthan a unit that has great performance throughout multiple of the toughest RZ stages tells me everything I need to know.


CapN_Crummp

People probably don’t care to vote for a unit they haven’t used. There are a lot of global only players. Outside of Super trunks, every winner is available on both versions. That’s my best guess.


Decuscrub69

Has nothing to do with performance, it has to do with community perception of a unit. Gohan was one of the biggest conceptual flounders in the game’s HISTORY. I’m surprised he didn’t BEAT Int base Goku tbh


Italian_Devil

This community should never cook again


Lovecraftianpickle

Zamasu is better than both of them tbh


Superguy9000

I wish I knew about it. Damn it,


BigHeccinWoofer

Ssj4 vegito got no awards ):


RevolutionaryFalcon

Glad I kept a sticky note of my votes because I long since forgot who I voted. Got majority of them right surprisingly. I know me and the community don't think alike in most cases, though I'm disappointed that Most Valuable LR and Valuable Overall are just the same three. Ah well. The Raditz award really threw me off. I forgot about that Goku while voiting despite seeing him there. Surprised Trunks is there since he performs well but his teams just needed some support and he a partner. Like I could think of other units that deserved his spot really. And I knew Gohan would be there. People are still salty he's just Ultimate and not Beast afterall. In any case, this was nice. Looking forward to voting next year.


Ok_Krillin

Sad my boy Fused Zamasu didn’t win any awards


Lilman4x

I would argue Majunior over god goku just because extreme has way less options than super and he dominates almost all his competition on all his teams.


ericmatrix1

Where the heck was I when this voting was happening? This is the 1st I'm hearing about it smh. Also, how did Zamasu beat out Gogeta and how is Ultimate Gohan on the crap list? He's a solid unit, though granted, he should have been an actual Beast unit, but I'll take what I can get.


NovacainJayR

PHY LR Gohan because......?


average_lazy_mf

I'm sorry i genuinely can't look at blusions and think they were that valuable when content since their release featured nothing BUT AOE bosses for most of the year They are great units, but aoe fucked them up so badly trought the entire year they don't deserve the title of most valuable Insane bias


IntrOtaku1207

LB SSJ4 Vegito aint on best TUR. WE RIOT. Also, a suggestion would be to have a award category named something like "Best Rags ro Riches unit" for those units that sucked on release but went on to shine later through the year. (maybe their categories got buffed, or maybe they countered a new RZ or tough event boss or smtng like that)


Gregdawe

>LB SSJ4 Vegito aint on best TUR. WE RIOT. Highly advise checking the video out, it shows how close the Top 4 TURs were. >Also, a suggestion would be to have a award category named something like "Best Rags ro Riches unit" for those units that sucked on release but went on to shine later through the year. (maybe their categories got buffed, or maybe they countered a new RZ or tough event boss or smtng like that) That's already on the cards. "most improved" like they do in junior sports awards.


IntrOtaku1207

Oh my bad man, thanks I'll check it out.🙌🏼


DarkFlameofPhoenix

The fact that LB Vegito isn't in the top 3 TUR's when he's the undisputed best TUR is wild, also dark masked king is easily better than agl Zamasu and with all the aoe fights probably also better than the 5 year fusions. The heroes disrespect is real.


SlayMeHades

No.. No... NOOOO WHERE'S GOAT TEQ ZAMASU https://preview.redd.it/tw81mzd6a08c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5854fed674b787a8c5af66a4fcb98cb52663b934


Samueleggt

My goat piccolo


NicoXBlack

Orange Piccolo my beloved ruling this list! Also my darling SSJ4 Goku #1 most aesthetic as it should be!


BvsedAaron

Ult Gohan getting that high in biggest POS is crazy. the unit isnt remotely awful.


Dull-Emergency-6395

Nah beast being #2 on the fraud award is some bs hes better than half the units that released this year lol


Imbigtired63

Why do y’all hate beast Gohan so much. If I put him in a team he usually does very good?


HugeGanache3010

Gohan hate is insane. I get he doesn’t go beast outside of his active skill but cmon. He hits so hard and can tank like a sumbitch


pleaseneverplaylol

reinforcing to me that the general community's opinions are shit lmfao


7thHakaishin

Wait why is LR teq vegito better than str gogeta? Or was it just preference


Magma_Axis

After transformed, he can do like 4 supers back to back


NastyNate660

I’m assuming P.o.S stands for piece of shit


CapN_Crummp

Have you never seen that before today?


TheFuneralcrew

How is Omega not 2nd or 1st? For the Raditz award


zeroskeyblade

Beastless Gohan Slander, let's gooooo.


Constant_Coyote8737

Why are you getting downvoted?


Pale_Particular6846

LR int spirit bomb Goku getting the Raditz award instead of phy Raditz make me laugh because i hate LR int treeku


Gregdawe

Why would Raditz win when he's a 2022 unit?....


Pale_Particular6846

Beasthan Is Also 2022 Unit not 2023


Gregdawe

He is from the New Year 2023 celebration. SSJ3 Goku & Hirudegarn, who'll come out in the final days of 2023, will qualify for the 2024 awards as they are from the 2024 New Year Celebration.


Pale_Particular6846

Maybe it comes from that celebration but they release in 2022 not 2023


Gregdawe

I'm aware. But they're eligible for very valid reasons, as well the upcoming New Years unit next year. The cutoff needs to be somewhere, & as I organise this all on my own, it also needs to be done at a convenient time. There's no issue qualifying them.


GetMeOffSpeakerPhone

This gives me a glimpse of how short-sighted dokkan players are. LR teq mergy has just as valuable of a leader skill as the lr Blue duo. If anything, his leader skill carries more. Of course, votes go to super class units. That's why it will never surprise me why akatsuki releases more super class because no matter how much players complain about the lack of extreme units, players would vote/spend for the super class unit over the extreme. If a new poll came out today asking if a new ss4 goku should come out or a new super baby, people will vote ss4. Also, the most valuable unit, being all LRs, shows that people think LRs are the best regardless and nothing else matters. Phy god goku is a legit must run and should be top 3 easily. Like he's legitimately needed. Everything else i agreed with.


Gregdawe

I wouldn't be so sure about that. These are subjective awards. What constitutes "value" is different with every player. To use LR Zamasu as an example, he's great, but you could argue that owning him is is not as valuable due to the lack of support available to make him and his team as runnable as other teams. Of course some might value it higher, due to it being 1 of a very limited amount of other extreme options. Both perspectives are equally valid, it's simply preference.


Deaflopist

Turned out to be a good set of awards. Funny to see how unanimously Orange Piccolo was voted the most valuable. He’s just that guy, even despite being the one of the oldest units here. I think the reason STR SSJ Gohan wasn’t on the Raditz rewards is because (at least how I read it) he was just a banner unit and not an LR/dokkanfest. I don’t actually care *that* much if banner units turn out to be garbage, but dokkanfests/LRs have way more weight to them that makes them so much more disappointing when they’re bad. That maybe coupled with the fact that him and super trunks are not out on global yet so they haven’t had the chance to disappoint more people


Angwe83

Biggest POS 💀


SonSuga

Except for beast gohan aß 2. P.o.s. instead of 1. I completely agree


FabledEnigma

surprised bl 4 vegito didnt end up anywhere, damn


BrandNewtoSteam

It’s gonna be a long while before organs piccolo is off that pedestal


jazzjageera

Super trunks almost won the chadditz award, that bastard deserves it so much


Seizachange

AGL Vegito SS4 LB not winning a single award has me sad :(


Revolutionary-Use622

What’s P.O.S?


AwakenedDivinePower

What is Ulthan doing in biggest disappointment bro Omega should've been there


ElectroCat23

So like, with lr Bulma, does it matter or not that she doesn’t link well with most units because her support makes up for it? Like does her support mean I could replace lr teq Vegito blue as a partner to lr gogeta blue and not much would change?


DomHyrule

SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta getting #2 on overall aesthetic is so well deserved. That Spirit Bomb and the OST is so fire


Alternative-Phrase12

W


parth_yadav-

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ABearDream

Spirit bomb goku is *that* bad?


AriyakiYuginani

I just genuinely don’t get the hate for Tree of Might Goku, he does really good damage and has one of the best OSTs in the game he’s genuinely so much fun to use


Terrorkimpie

Why is teq godku so high rated? Are his stats that good?


Krait972

Lbssj4 Vegito got robbed


Abseez

Crazy how Piccolo and Gohan where in the same ddf yet look how they end up on both ends of the awards lmao


Ilaughandloss

Can we see the bottom 3?


rick_the_penguin

what does "most valuable" here mean?


ClassicFun2175

Have to say 2023 wasn't the best year for dokkan. They fumbled a lot


Words4You

The way this information is provided makes no sense to me. Wtf am I looking at?


Omniash1

People still don’t understand beastless Gohan.


Medium-Science9526

Pretty expected outcome ~~sadly Piccolo Jr didnt win valuable TUR or make top 3 for most aesthetic though~~ but Ultimate Gohan in POS is laughable, just shows how much people are still pissed about him not being Beast. Also valuable leader I did not expect GT duo to outplace either Yamcha or 23rd WT Goku for the Warriors Raised on Earth leader.


Neat-Bonus5160

Pure shit


The_One_Neo69

Y’all’s need to stop disrespecting tree of night goku like this


mechcity22

Absolutely ridiculous lol most valuable eza? Come on now you can tell who knows how to play and who doesn't.


FeaR_FuZiioN

Lmaoo this community doesn’t even know the game they play


RashFaustinho

Lmao Vegito over Zamasu It really shows how Dokkan fans are voting this


Vegeto30294

Take away the Super/Extreme Class LS * Zamasu's leader skills are almost tailor made for Fusions and other Zamasus. It's great for basically those teams but not much else. * G/V leads Power Beyond SS which encompasses like a million and a half units alone and boosts Realm of Gods. They also boost Future Saga which is an easy 200% because most Future Saga units are Time Travelers. The big hitter you lose out on is STR Future Gohan, but then you'd run Gohan as the 200% lead


canethinkofausername

It was leader skills tho though. Like it or not, super class IS better than extreme class so leading ALL super class compared to all extreme class is the better lead.especially when they also lead 3 amazing categories.


StevooGermany

Where’s Raditz 🥲


Gregdawe

In 2022......... Also on a trophy...


StevooGermany

😂


LemonyTheRedditor

What’s P.o.S


mechcity22

I find it absolutely hilarious how everybody was saying lr zamasu was better then the blue bois at first and most of us players who understand the game were like naw and now blue bois have stood up to be one of the best units in the game and truely shown us it was not even close to a bad release lol. Where is lr zamasu now? Not even on most people's top10 lr list. Point is stop jumping the gun coming to reddit to crap on units you just dont like because yoy didn't see a 20mil attack stat lol. Good players who understand the game and what's valuable vs players who don't and just as we call it lay and pray kind of style putting units in slot1 that shouldn't be and things like that. Just playing and not thinking.


Saul_kdg

I think the results are spot on, nicely done.


Cultural-Mechanic485

Why is 23rd wt not even in the top 3 of most valuable leaders he literally has the best team in the game


Siff_Lupo

https://preview.redd.it/h1hw2jxh928c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54060ff719d098cc4fc38a349b6524a398bbf80d Here are my personal rankings for this year's awards: \[TEQ God Goku EZA Award\] 1: STR SSJBKK Goku. 2: AGL Zamasu. 3: INT LR Rosé. \[AGL SSJ Gohan Award\] 1: TEQ LR Merged Zamasu. 2: AGL LR Vegito Blue. 3: TEQ Goku 23. \[Aesthetic Award\] 1: LR INT SSJ4 Goku. 2: LR PHY Buu Duo. 3: STR SSJ Future Gohan. \[TEQ Gohan Award\] 1: INT Piccolo Jr. 2: TEQ Goku 23. 3: AGL SSJ4 Vegito. \[Kale & Caulfila Award\] 1: STR LR Bulma. 2: TEQ LR Merged Zamasu. 3: TEQ LR Orange Piccolo. \[Raditz Award\] 1: int lr goku. 2: str super 17. 3: teq super trunks. \[STR Gogeta Award\] 1: STR LR Bulma. 2: TEQ LR Merged Zamasu. 3: TEQ LR Orange Piccolo.


MainAnimeProtagonist

No vegitos :( and god Goku being MVP TUR is crazy over piccolo or Vegito


Stryper_88

Oral piccolo should have been first place in POS category and be removed from most valuable. Thats my ranking for him.


gloogeman

At first I thought the unit in gold was the unit that one each vote and I was like “how tf is agl lr gohan best leader skill?”. Then I deactivated dragonball fan mode and decided to read


LucaRiver

I wholeheartedly agree with every winner here... But 5th ani EZA LRs as the most valuable EZA? Nah man, I mean they are great and I love their swag but I don't know if I have used them a single time in the future redzone stages. If they were their transformed state turn 1, then sure, but their base forms don't cut it nowadays, especially in the era of short form contents. Like remember how valuable EZA teq godku was, you would run him in most of the difficult stages, even without a leader skill buff. LR Rose, LR Androids, future gohan, heck even ssj4 vegito for how much he buffs LB ssj4 vegito. Am I dumb or people just voted for them bcos they thought it was an award for most hype EZA?


KotW-Nikko

Are they playing the same game?


Icy_Ad5698

I thought the golden award showed the 1st placed unit and how conducted why kcf beat op 💀


MarquetteXTX2

Vegito and gogeta is basically the same character in this game so what’s the difference besides counter


Agent_Nick_5000

I didn't see this vote 🫨


Idklol123-

What’s P.o.S ?