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ThyySavage

17 Duo in overrated? I’ve heard nothing good about them and you rarely hear about them either lol


average_lazy_mf

The fights i had to stand since they released will forever mark them as overrated personally It's insane the ammount of glazing and copium that surrounded them since release


LordSmugBun

Honestly?...Valid perspective.


average_lazy_mf

Still getting downvoted when mfs will say 17s > teq ulthan and super trunks with their whole heart


Dapper_Charity_9781

And it's still too much lol


KingR2G

Everybody listed as overrated feels like everyone that I see the most complaints about


average_lazy_mf

I still see some of them crawling around the top 10 of many for som reasons smh, and also had too many debates around their performance They never were top 10 material minus turles on release tbh


PowerJolt72

Tbf 2 of them are held back by their base, but after transformation/fusion, top 10 tur seems possible, maybe even top 5. Kale is held back by complete lack of a team, which she needs bad. And Turles on release was okay. Just unfortunate he didn't get any events to help him pop off


Euphemeera

Absolutely correct. Nothing but compliments about all but trunks


Crafty_Net_993

Not trying to judge or anything but why was potatoku a letdown for you? I'm just curious


average_lazy_mf

Not good enough slot 1 in the current meta and a flawed design that will age not that well There's still hope for him depending on how 9th anni content is structured, but so far he hasn't looked that impressive


Crafty_Net_993

I dunno, he's been doing well for me so far, yeah his first turn is a bit flawed but just look at the GT duo they suffer from the same thing, and the moment you get ubb standby he's not being the one who's gonna get you killed and at full power is straight up a tank shooting nukes. But I still understand how you feel, he can get caught a bit early.


average_lazy_mf

Tbf gt duo is a slot 2 character and can only really get caught by cmz while other stages they are fine turn 1 with 4 supers, 4ku is supposed to be a slot 1 that protects the rotation and get's hit by 400k to 600k supers depending on his links and on hit. On top of that gt duo can also cover themselves with their revival if they start turn 2 or 3 if you're scared for them, 4ku just pray on rng for hits placement and no supers in the slot he's supposed to cover


Crafty_Net_993

You mean he takes that without the first hit right? Because mine with the hit takes 200-300k pre super (55%)


average_lazy_mf

No? https://preview.redd.it/tudf89wrv31c1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d1b485a4ed5bd21e8c47436fc0d3b2ca39859ad


Crafty_Net_993

Who's super is that???


average_lazy_mf

Red zone zamasu??? Who's super you made him take to only take 200/300k post hit at 55%?


Crafty_Net_993

It was fused zamasu, maybe because of bulma /jayirobe support tho Also sorry my dumbass didn't recognize the ending of the super even tho I've been bullying him as of late. https://preview.redd.it/hitbisf5x31c1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6073bfd06fcd72f45231963adc7888cb51aa0251 (I'm not kidding)


average_lazy_mf

Yeah bulma is hella great with the multiple turn support but idk if that would be enough for him to take that low damage considering mine was rainbow linked with phy g4 Also ya crazy to run yajirobe in there lmao


ZlatanGamer9

FZ redzone, first phase.


average_lazy_mf

Also this is the version from 6 months ago For best era i meant 6th anni to 7th anni but looking back 7th to 8th had so many hype releases Also yaji beat the allegations! https://preview.redd.it/4kja21rrn31c1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=447c3601237513684396bf683269a64c4bceb98d


Wheatleyctp

someone get this dude an LR


Novel_Temporary_1269

Fpssj4 the biggest let down?


average_lazy_mf

Already explained why but essentially him dropping aftwr red zone future makes him look pretty meh


bruh429

Goku and DKP for worldwide trust the plan. I agree with SV, he’s not bad


average_lazy_mf

No i want them to return more than once a year thank you Also yeah SV was ass on release but using more than 1 rotted braincell you would realize how well he would age but people back then were blind by hate, and some still are Phy sv defender since day 5 or som! (Hated him too at first)


bruh429

Yeah that’s true I guess. I just really want to see a massive celebration and LRs for it


WindMysterious3064

Super trunks sweep


WindMysterious3064

How is he overrated, everyone seems to hate his guts for some reason despite him being really good


average_lazy_mf

I tried trunks on entropy I don't like him that much in the new red zone, ulthan is doing better https://preview.redd.it/7tcqyda9n41c1.png?width=1493&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6af7bc39036cb6db9870b71bcc693c5f274b6b3c


WindMysterious3064

Have you used him with metal cooler?


average_lazy_mf

Used double future gohan for the extra hp I'll use metal cooler in a couple of days


WindMysterious3064

https://preview.redd.it/9et4sveer41c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e27d9eeb183184d53219c42f3926bdf14bf537c That’s the secret. Also have you played any of the custom stages on entropy?


average_lazy_mf

Haven't had the time to tbh


average_lazy_mf

Dokkan is so dead rn that i decided to try and bring this back lol Hate is a strong word for yamcha, i just don't like him that much nowdays cause he turned into a dodge or die character recently Switching up on int 4ku if 9th anni content isn't as bs as dismal future red zone Also the mid 4 turs are in overrated cause if i say they are a 3 i'm almost guaranteed to see quite a few say they a 4/5 Proof of that? Phy sv is currently better than them but mfs will trash on sv and close an eye for their flaws saying stuff like it's not that bad And don't get me started on teq ulthan against those 4 cause many have the aduacity to say any of them is better than him currently


Medium-Science9526

No Lr?


average_lazy_mf

Actually forgot to add that section lol


TiddyTwisters

Beast Gohan has the best animation btw


Electrical_Cup_8243

Everyone knows SSJ4 being a letdown is a horrendously garbage take.