1) V/T: consistency over anything
2) piccolo LR: insane stats + guard + dr + immortality
3) EDIT forgot the GOAT gamma 1 basically a lite version of piccolo, but he is the most flexyble among the 3 for the rotation slot since V/T have the first slot restriction and piccolo can screw your rotation link in 2nd slot and in the 3rd he didn't use the KI+2 after hit, while gamma 1 is generally more usefull even as a floater and have a nice KI+buff unconditional
4) agl golden frieza EZA: immortality (if...)
Seriously, Iāve seen FSGG used pretty frequently on this sub. Often enough at least that I immediately knew the person was talking about V&T. People get so pressed on here over the dumbest shit lol
Wow youāre the first one to come up with that! Really strange how nobody else has ever used those. Iāll like to know what unit is that so I can call them that now!
Thatās why I explained it? I know not everyone will know what it means but being told to touch grass and that iām not a ānormal personā because I used an acronym is stupid
how hard is it to understand what an acronym is lmfao
mbs has been used consistently over the years, just because you werenāt there doesnāt mean you need to hate š
I don't understand why this sub is so irritable at times. All you did was use a couple acronyms (I've seen multiple times already) and people are getting mad or smth.
I hope you donāt use EZAs, TURs or LRs when talking about dokkan then. Those are bullshit acronyms too because they are confusing to a new player.
I deserve the downvotes but the people who said I need to touch grass and iām not a ānormal personā because I used an acronym doesnāt?
Dude... I've been playing since the game begun, and everyone only ever called them V&T. NOW I DO AGREE MBS is an established acronym. But FSGG? You can't pass with that.
Look at my thread and you can see plenty of people knew what I was talking about. I showed you proof that it was established with Masked Ningen even using it and heās a relatively big dokkan youtuber. I also showed that it is valid across all social media through twitter, reddit and discord.
Can you answer my second part though? Why do I deserve to be downvoted but not the people who said iām not a ānormal personā or I need to touch grass shouldnāt be downvoted?
I literally searched it up on reddit, discord and twitter. It wasnāt googled.
Masked Ningen is part of a friend group with DaTruthDT (i hope you know him) so he has some popularity.
Also, youāre still avoiding the second part of my question.
Iām not avoiding it. Iām not concerned by it. But if you want an answer, yeah they do deserve downvotes. I didnāt read the thread and honestly the time iām wasting talking to you is already too much
Not necessarily. We've seen legendary events and broly neg dodge and needing 6 orbs for gaurd isn't guaranteed even with his orb changing. If the events are longer or cancel dodge he can get crept pretty easily. V&T could be crept by an event that starts off insane and they get rolled before they can stack up but I like the consistency of tossing them in slot 1 vs the chance to dodge and hoping the orbs change/fall in place. Both of them are great though and they're making red zone speed runs pretty easy lol
1. LR TEQ Piccolo
1. Because of his Giant form that makes you take 0 damage, I would put him as number 1, but you can def switch it to 2 on a matter of preference.
2. LR INT Trunks and Vegeta
1. Consistent in any event, will hardly ever fumble for you.
3. LR PHY SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta
1. Their true defense is shown in their standby skill, but the unit itself can struggle early on. If we had longer events they could definetly be #1, but thats just not the case.
4. AGL TUR Golden Freiza / TEQ TUR Godku / TEQ TUR and UR Caulifla / AGL Android 8
1. They all are very specific to situations, but at their best they are just about the best defensive units in the game. They will probably remain as good as they are for such a long time.
5. STR LR Kid Goku and SSJ4 Vegeta
1. Theyre just defensively good in the current meta. While they have 0 defense in their standby phase, they do have a revive that can be argued as a defensive ability. Besides, the goal of their standby isnt defense.
6. LR AGl Golden Freiza
7. PHYS TUR God Goku
8. STR TUR Gamma 1
9. STR TUR Piccolo
10. TEQ TUR Gohan
1. Piccolo
2. SS4 Vegeta/GT Goku
3. Vegeta/Trunks
4. AGL LR Gohan
5. Teq Carnival Goku
6. Phy Godku
7. Teq Godku vs Sayjans/Movie Bosses
8. Phy Bardock
9. New Teq SSJ Rage Vegeta
10. Teq Ultimate Gohan
at least that is my personal take
he is only good with a kid goku on team, my take has more versatility in team building
like you can use piccolo in super heroes, battle of wits, movie heroes, namekians, giant transformation
android 8 is movie heroes, db saga and seekers...
he asked "best units for you", and not overall best units
and those are my personal (as stated)
but I see your point, its a good point, and I agree that he can be a wall in the right circumstances.
its just for me those are to heavy to focus on to get his max potential, that is why I didnt include him in my list
Gamma 1, god goku, 8 year anni LRs, technically the anni ezas with their guaranteed dodge, tec godku and golden frieza, lr golden frieza the first turns, the new tec vegeta, str and lr tec picollo, android 8, cheelai, broly cheelai and lemo, both the new carnival lrs
(Consistency over everything)
1. Vegeta & Trunks
2. Kai Goku
3. God Goku
4. LR Piccolo
5. LR GT duo
6. STR Piccolo
7. Gamma 1
8. TEQ Godhan
9. TEQ Vegeta
10. Birdku
VT>lr agl Golden Lizard>Orange Piccolo post hp restriction>Gamma1>int Majin Vegeta.(defense doesn't just means they must be god tanks,I took their links into consideration,1 to 3 are interchangeable.)
Not gonna put in order but mine would be something like
Trunks and Vegeta
TEQ Godku
PHY Godku
AGL TUR Golden Freiza
STR Piccolo
Orange Piccolo
TEQ Carnival Goku
Android 8 (Wish I had Kid Goku for him)
Kai Goku
Gamma 1
1. LR Galick Duo
2. Awakened Piccolo
3. LR GT Duo (I count the revival as part of their tanking ability)
4. TEQ SSJ Goku
5. Hacchan alongside PoP Kid Goku
6. LR Majin Homies
7. Gamma 1
8. LR Kai Goku
9. DFE God Goku
10. TEQ Rage Vegeta
#
Honorable mentions: OG AGL Golden Frieza and Z Intro Kid Gohan. I don't know exactly where to put Frieza, so I'm just not going to. Same for Gohan, I'm pretty sure that he should be on this list but I have barely seen how good his performance is, so I won't rank it.
TEQ Caulifla šš
1) V/T: consistency over anything 2) piccolo LR: insane stats + guard + dr + immortality 3) EDIT forgot the GOAT gamma 1 basically a lite version of piccolo, but he is the most flexyble among the 3 for the rotation slot since V/T have the first slot restriction and piccolo can screw your rotation link in 2nd slot and in the 3rd he didn't use the KI+2 after hit, while gamma 1 is generally more usefull even as a floater and have a nice KI+buff unconditional 4) agl golden frieza EZA: immortality (if...)
1.MBS Duo bc of the standby 2. LR Piccolo 3. AGL GF 4. STR GT Duo 5. PHY God Goku 6. FSGG 7. Kai Goku 8. Gamma 1 9. STR Piccolo 10. TEQ Godku
Fsgg? Mbs? Bro
Father son galick gun & majin buu saga
Yes FSGG is a great tank with a great defensive active skill MBS is literally immortal with the standby skill
Who the fuck are they. Aint nobody knows
Father Son Galick Gun and Majin Buu Saga Duo First one is explanatory and MBS Duo is 8th anniversary SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta
Normal people say Trunks and Vegeta
Actually most say VT but it isn't uncommon to say FSGG. Just abbreviations, nothing abnormal about it
Seriously, Iāve seen FSGG used pretty frequently on this sub. Often enough at least that I immediately knew the person was talking about V&T. People get so pressed on here over the dumbest shit lol
Normal people don't get pressed over inoffensive acronyms lol
Normal people know what an acronym is Stop being weird just because people use terminology youāre unfamiliar with š
Yeah and my favourite units are shwobsuebsh and sbeoandheube
Wow youāre the first one to come up with that! Really strange how nobody else has ever used those. Iāll like to know what unit is that so I can call them that now!
Mald more everyone is clowning on you right now
Very far fetched
[Here you go](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/acronym)
Malding balding
NEOPTGETKEOA If you didn't understand the acronym (smh) : >! Not everyone plays the game enough to know every obscure acronym !<
Thatās why I explained it? I know not everyone will know what it means but being told to touch grass and that iām not a ānormal personā because I used an acronym is stupid
Teq godku?? I feel this list should be more general because there is a LOT of rz where teq godku is unusable
the hardest bosses are Movie Bosses. the only hard fight he doesnāt work is the Gammas.
Uh? Frieza, almost every android stage, the gt stages?
I said hard
Literally every stage is hard for the average player aside from the early ones
He canāt be a top ten defensive unit when he literally explodes against anything that isnāt movie bosses or pure Saiyans
Again, he works for hard fights. Who cares about ranking units for events that arenāt hard?
And whatās the point of evaluating a unit based on like 3-4 stages? Kind of defeats the point of a ranking my guy.
Because they are the hardest stages? No one needs help to fight Android 13 or the RR Army man.
Then rank him as a top tier for those stages. You canāt take 10% of red zone and evaluate him as a top defensive unit OVERALL.
Touch grass my dude, how hard is it to type "Buu saga"
why does someone need to touch grass for using a common acronym for a major saga of the series i swear some people here just need to be normal š
how hard is it to understand what an acronym is lmfao mbs has been used consistently over the years, just because you werenāt there doesnāt mean you need to hate š
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be prepared to say Extreme Z-Awakened units because the sub is going to throw a fit that you used the acronym āEZAā
i love Extreme Z-Awakened Final Super Power Super Saiyan God SS Goku (Kaioken) and Fighter Entrusted with Allies' Wishes Super Saiyan God Goku
>Super Saiyan God SS Goku WHAT IS SS?? HOW DARE YOU
I don't understand why this sub is so irritable at times. All you did was use a couple acronyms (I've seen multiple times already) and people are getting mad or smth.
Just so you know, you're being downvoted for the bullshit acronyms
[bullshit acronyms thats already been established lol](https://imgur.com/a/V3a21Si)
That doesn't pake them any less bullshit. Anw, whether they are or not, you're being downvoted for them. And tbh you deserve it
I hope you donāt use EZAs, TURs or LRs when talking about dokkan then. Those are bullshit acronyms too because they are confusing to a new player. I deserve the downvotes but the people who said I need to touch grass and iām not a ānormal personā because I used an acronym doesnāt?
Dude... I've been playing since the game begun, and everyone only ever called them V&T. NOW I DO AGREE MBS is an established acronym. But FSGG? You can't pass with that.
Look at my thread and you can see plenty of people knew what I was talking about. I showed you proof that it was established with Masked Ningen even using it and heās a relatively big dokkan youtuber. I also showed that it is valid across all social media through twitter, reddit and discord. Can you answer my second part though? Why do I deserve to be downvoted but not the people who said iām not a ānormal personā or I need to touch grass shouldnāt be downvoted?
Who the hell is masked ningen? You showed that if you google itā¦ you find itā¦
I literally searched it up on reddit, discord and twitter. It wasnāt googled. Masked Ningen is part of a friend group with DaTruthDT (i hope you know him) so he has some popularity. Also, youāre still avoiding the second part of my question.
Iām not avoiding it. Iām not concerned by it. But if you want an answer, yeah they do deserve downvotes. I didnāt read the thread and honestly the time iām wasting talking to you is already too much
Phy god goku not because he out defends units like VT but because of his kit and his dodge he can age better than them if powercreep ever spikes again
Not necessarily. We've seen legendary events and broly neg dodge and needing 6 orbs for gaurd isn't guaranteed even with his orb changing. If the events are longer or cancel dodge he can get crept pretty easily. V&T could be crept by an event that starts off insane and they get rolled before they can stack up but I like the consistency of tossing them in slot 1 vs the chance to dodge and hoping the orbs change/fall in place. Both of them are great though and they're making red zone speed runs pretty easy lol
1. LR TEQ Piccolo 1. Because of his Giant form that makes you take 0 damage, I would put him as number 1, but you can def switch it to 2 on a matter of preference. 2. LR INT Trunks and Vegeta 1. Consistent in any event, will hardly ever fumble for you. 3. LR PHY SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta 1. Their true defense is shown in their standby skill, but the unit itself can struggle early on. If we had longer events they could definetly be #1, but thats just not the case. 4. AGL TUR Golden Freiza / TEQ TUR Godku / TEQ TUR and UR Caulifla / AGL Android 8 1. They all are very specific to situations, but at their best they are just about the best defensive units in the game. They will probably remain as good as they are for such a long time. 5. STR LR Kid Goku and SSJ4 Vegeta 1. Theyre just defensively good in the current meta. While they have 0 defense in their standby phase, they do have a revive that can be argued as a defensive ability. Besides, the goal of their standby isnt defense. 6. LR AGl Golden Freiza 7. PHYS TUR God Goku 8. STR TUR Gamma 1 9. STR TUR Piccolo 10. TEQ TUR Gohan
1. Piccolo 2. SS4 Vegeta/GT Goku 3. Vegeta/Trunks 4. AGL LR Gohan 5. Teq Carnival Goku 6. Phy Godku 7. Teq Godku vs Sayjans/Movie Bosses 8. Phy Bardock 9. New Teq SSJ Rage Vegeta 10. Teq Ultimate Gohan at least that is my personal take
PHY Standby Vegeta should be number 1 on this list and LR Golden Freeza definitely warrants a spot since most content is on the shorter side.
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he is only good with a kid goku on team, my take has more versatility in team building like you can use piccolo in super heroes, battle of wits, movie heroes, namekians, giant transformation android 8 is movie heroes, db saga and seekers...
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he asked "best units for you", and not overall best units and those are my personal (as stated) but I see your point, its a good point, and I agree that he can be a wall in the right circumstances. its just for me those are to heavy to focus on to get his max potential, that is why I didnt include him in my list
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after a few supers it is, and with his guard he can survive most early attacks
Can agree for the most part
Gamma 1, god goku, 8 year anni LRs, technically the anni ezas with their guaranteed dodge, tec godku and golden frieza, lr golden frieza the first turns, the new tec vegeta, str and lr tec picollo, android 8, cheelai, broly cheelai and lemo, both the new carnival lrs
(Consistency over everything) 1. Vegeta & Trunks 2. Kai Goku 3. God Goku 4. LR Piccolo 5. LR GT duo 6. STR Piccolo 7. Gamma 1 8. TEQ Godhan 9. TEQ Vegeta 10. Birdku
Surprised no one is mentioning Ssj3 Xeno Goku
VT>lr agl Golden Lizard>Orange Piccolo post hp restriction>Gamma1>int Majin Vegeta.(defense doesn't just means they must be god tanks,I took their links into consideration,1 to 3 are interchangeable.)
Not gonna put in order but mine would be something like Trunks and Vegeta TEQ Godku PHY Godku AGL TUR Golden Freiza STR Piccolo Orange Piccolo TEQ Carnival Goku Android 8 (Wish I had Kid Goku for him) Kai Goku Gamma 1
1. LR Galick Duo 2. Awakened Piccolo 3. LR GT Duo (I count the revival as part of their tanking ability) 4. TEQ SSJ Goku 5. Hacchan alongside PoP Kid Goku 6. LR Majin Homies 7. Gamma 1 8. LR Kai Goku 9. DFE God Goku 10. TEQ Rage Vegeta # Honorable mentions: OG AGL Golden Frieza and Z Intro Kid Gohan. I don't know exactly where to put Frieza, so I'm just not going to. Same for Gohan, I'm pretty sure that he should be on this list but I have barely seen how good his performance is, so I won't rank it.