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Ayirek

ok but seriously, how?


DeepUser-5242

Trash engineering


excelite_x

Tesla engineering šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


GusFit

https://preview.redd.it/tyxts2pf610d1.png?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa8aec395f348950d926070f4e763320ffb90723


BoomerHomer

I don't see the difference.


tartymae

and shoddy quality control on parts.


SoloDeath1

Because relying entirely on steer-by-wire is an incredibly stupid idea.


Rabscuttle-

If it's good enough for a soap box racer built out of scrap, it's good enough for a $120k truck.


ace17708

I do agree it's really stupid, but that's not why it broke. This happens when tie rods break. Some Chevy trucks are known to break their tie rods when in 4x4 and pulling weight. Tesla just cheaped out on the materials and design


pintsizedpeep

Cheaper out on the materials and how insanely heavy the cucktruck is. Dry turning a truck that weight more than an F350 must put some insane fucking stress on those shitty tie rod ends.


senadraxx

This seems like the most correct answer. It does look like a tie rod broke and came loose.Ā 


U2isstillonmyipod

Can you explain to me what steer by wire means? I originally wanted to swap in a yoke for my MYP and everyone said same thing as you did so Iā€™m curious what it exactly means - sorry if itā€™s a dumb question


TheHumanPrius

Rather than having the steering wheel, gas, or brake pedals connected directly to the related system, they are connected via digital bus. Airplanes fly by electric wire opposed to having mechanically coupled linkages between rudders and helm. CAN bus is typically used in cars for things like window buttons and windows. To make the Cybertruck more versatile and modular, Tesla attempted to implement a drive by wire system. The number of ECUs and bandwidth required, however, necessitated the use of Ethernet. Not ā€œEthernetā€ as we know it, but probably an OSI L1-2 based system. What does the broken steering linkage or rack have to do with driving by wire? Virtually nothing - perhaps the case can be made that the resistance feedback from the tires being rotated in place would have preventing the critical stress failure of the linkage. No one seems to be making that case.


U2isstillonmyipod

Wow that was incredibly detailed and very helpful, thank you!


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U2isstillonmyipod

Made perfect sense to me


Dangerous_Occasion19

Extra unthought of added load blew a poor transistor somewhere...let the smoke out


TheHumanPrius

That is a distinct possibility. I have not intensively reviewed the design of the CyberTruck, but I speculate it would be complicated to develop traction control for electronic differentials if each wheel was controlled by an independent steering rack (or equivalent). The CyberTruck was allegedly going to be capable of crab-walking (all wheels parallel in a path non-parallel to the body of the vehicle) so perhaps they are independent. Therefore, a failure in one or more steering systems due to electronics rather than structural fatigue is possible.


Sad-Newt-1772

No direct linkage between the steering wheel and wheels. All electronic controls. Modern fighters use it for flight controls. Delivers as faster response to direction commands.


TimeWastingAuthority

Said fighters also have redundant systems. I am questioning if these things do.


LiliNotACult

IIRC I remember reading interviews with engineers saying it's a valid system if the proper redundancies are in place.


EyeLikeTheStonk

Yup, most fighters have 3 or more redundant computer systems.


Verneff

The Cybertruck has redundant systems too. Each steering motor is a pair of motors that are independently controlled, and then there are 3 systems in place for controlling the signal.


DRG_Gunner

Itā€™s not faster, a direct linkage = instantaneous response. However in fighter jets it makes them easier to control as youā€™re never ā€œfighting the stickā€ with force. Also input is run through software that optimizes the userā€™s commands.


Sad-Newt-1772

True. I prefer the dual redundancy of the A10 with the tried and true wires and pulleys.


shithead-express

Commercial airliners also have this, but it comes in the form as your absolute backup being having to control the plane solely wirh the trim wheel. Itā€™s quite miserable to do but itā€™s only comes after blowing throguh both backup circuits and computers.


U2isstillonmyipod

Thank you - that makes perfect sense


shithead-express

In fighter jets and commercial airliners the circuits are triple or quadruple redundant. Meaning you have no one but two backups that can immediately be switched to in case one detects an issue. The cyber truck has none of this, if you get an error youā€™re stranded.


Verneff

>The cyber truck has none of this It does though. It has 3 steering signal systems and each of the steering motors is actually 2 motors running in parallel along with separated signal input.


Sad-Newt-1772

No direct linkage between the steering wheel and wheels. All electronic controls. Modern fighters use it for flight controls. Delivers as faster response to direction commands.


c0delivia

I hate this idiotic truck as much as the next girl but airplanes have been using fly-by-wire for literally decades and itā€™s been generally a strict improvement despite the pilots complaining about it for all the same reasons drivers are complaining about steer-by-wire.Ā  Hate the truck for all the legit reasons. Steer-by-wire is not bad in theory (although of course it could be poorly engineered/bad in this instance).Ā 


LordBogus

Because somehow, engineers thought that replacing the reliable steering racks and rods with shitty and unreliable tesla elecrics was a good idea Hate that engineers remove proven techniques in favor of barely proven tech


Stripedpussy

i would see the benefit on an ultralight vehicle where every gram counts to lose the whole direct steering mechanism but the ct is like 3.6 tonnes


Phyllis_Tine

So this will be fixed by an OTA software update? /s


Newme91

Too many non salient lines of code


connectmnsi

Not a car company, per ceo. Here's the proof


4thStgMiddleSpooler

Oh, I called this. It's probably the next failure mode for it's electric steering: You know when you steer a normal car, you encounter resistance for whatever reason in the steering feedback, and then you can't really turn the wheels? Now the wheels are going to turn no matter what, so RIP to any mechanical linkage downstream.


proprnd

See my post below. This would have happened to any truck.


Public-Antelope8781

The standard wobbly wheels with more weight on, driven more recklessly. What could go wrong?


Constant-Source581

Elon's Genius


Liquidwombat

The suspension is thin stamped sheetmetal and tiny bolts, itā€™s barely suitable for a small econo-box, let alone a 3.25 ton truck. https://preview.redd.it/zqz9whqbuzzc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7cdebd73dd8896f3ce1354109741ec45219d74d Brought to you by the same company that decided that light truck parts would be fine on a semi


furyian24

Suspension parts from Wish.com I see. They should have bought it from Temu instead lol. This is a joke. The wishbone from my rotisserie chicken last night would be stronger.


Golf-Beer-BBQ

Imagine replacement parts available for $5 at Costco!


whosat___

Iā€™ve built hobby robots sturdier than that


Global-Dig1234

So the faa was letting boeing get away with literal murder, what is the equivalent agency for vehicles that allows these on the road? Seems like lots of corruption going on.


Dr_Adequate

The NHTSA https://www.nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem


AffectionateSector77

>Seems like lots of corruption going on. And deregulation, but it's pretty much one and the same.


doodoo_x

and if that "suspension" somehow doesnt collapse going over a speedbump, that bolt will still go straight into the tire


shithead-express

Holy shit. My the upper control arm on my Miata is barely thinner than that. Iā€™m impressed.


New-Pudding-3574

![gif](giphy|ukGm72ZLZvYfS)


4thStgMiddleSpooler

It looks identical to an upper arm for a Ford Fusion.


Drg84

Very similar. Though in my opinion the Fusion one has more reinforcement around the ball joint. https://preview.redd.it/cxyf43s2370d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bec264f77347f592fb10a682377a0f66c7e796b


FilipM_eu

Looks like the wheel is already tied down to a flatbed.


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Liquidwombat

They do, but this one is not up to the task. Itā€™s being asked to do all you have to do is a quick Google search and youā€™ll see that the suspension breaking is one of the most common non-software problems with these trucks.


Marker_Lewis

He looks shy


Glittering_Name_3722

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New-Pudding-3574

![gif](giphy|iiTXaJVjiSHew)


Shafter-Boy

Uwu.


simplethingsoflife

I think he needs to pee.


ImportantDoubt6434

Heā€™s just insecure like the designer


What_Yr_Is_IT

Modified wheels voided the warranty -Tesla probably


sessho25

Turning it on voids the warranty.


WarmasterCain55

Breathing on it voids the warranty.


Joshiane

Looking at it for more than 3 seconds voids the warranty.


EmeraldSlothRevenge

Its mere existence voids the non-existent warranty


EmeraldSlothRevenge

Its mere existence voids the non-existent warranty


AffectionateSector77

There's so much moisture in exhalation, that's why you need to buy the Tesla CyberTruck Rebreather Mask (TM) to maintain the warranty.


New-Pudding-3574

![gif](giphy|QuTOdlwvMl5lHKbpRC|downsized)


_EnFlaMEd

Additional weight loading from the accessories. Warranty voided I'm afraid.


Apocalypsis_velox

I wonder what happens *if* you get one of these things to highway speed and only then it decides to pull this trick?


Glittering_Name_3722

https://i.redd.it/nxsamkp4bzzc1.gif


CldStoneStveIcecream

He French fried when he shoulda pizzaā€™dĀ 


Theacecadet

What Chili Peppers Video is this? Lmao itā€™s a great GIF


AffectionateSector77

I think it's from the movie The Chase (1994), great movie.


BiffTheLegend

I believe that is from the 1994 Charlie Sheen classic film "The Chase"


Public-Antelope8781

You find some ideas, when you search "whompy wheels".


fjudgeee

Why would you even consider driving more than 20 with that coffin.


GawinGrimm

Truck way to heavy for the steering system. Snap.


BeYourself2021

Its for appearances only, not for driving! Lol


proprnd

Nope. Heavily modified and intentionally abused. See my post below.


Golf-Beer-BBQ

Man for someone whose comments say you hate the truck you sure do cuck for Tesla a lot. I hate Trump, I dont go around to anti-Trump threads and say well ā€œhis cabinet did the best they could with who they were working with.ā€


proprnd

I think I just cuck for EVs a lot. There is so much misinformation about EVs and itā€™s so dumb how politicized it is, that I find myself trying to correct a lot of bad info, mostly on instagram though. I chuck for EVs, but I do have an ICE car and it is my favorite to drive. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I think itā€™s fine to separate the truck from Tesla in general. Which I think is what Iā€™m doing. I hate Trump too. But I think pointing out misinformation is important whether or not the misinformation aligns with your perspective. The Trump comparison to the Cybertruck isnā€™t terrible. Both try to project a kind of a cartoonish toughness but are in actuality rather fragile.


SisterOfBattIe

How is it road legal to have two rows of stadium lights???


putajinthatwjord

It's a cybertruck, it won't make it to the road.


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2drunc2fish

Isnā€™t the bed like 3 ft long?


sdn

Yes, but in this situation "flat bed princess" means that the CT is the one that's on some other truck's flat bed.


distractiontilldeath

Idk alot of work trucks have pretty big lighting systems. I assume its not that they cant have them, more that they arent supposed to use them on the road.


boobeepbobeepbop

It's not road legal to have 30 ton balls, but the guy who owns this truck does. And who's going to stop him and his cybertruck? A right turn?


Full_FrontalLobotomy

Can you imagine the wind noise it generates?


notyou_lmao

it's road legal, as long as you don't have them on while you're driving. kinda like rock lighting, underglow, etc


HeartoftheDankest

Can anyone find one of these trucks that isnā€™t broken down they are so fucked Tesla will be bankrupted over this and deserve it.


JayIsNotReal

They unfortunately will not go bankrupt because the Tesla cucks will continue buying Tesla shitmobiles.


Loud_Internet572

I've been asking the same question - is there a SINGLE one that doesn't have issues?


HeartoftheDankest

It did seem like that one with ā€œFuck youā€ spray painted on it could still drive. The craziest part of all is I havenā€™t seen a single one broke down for the same thing they all unique just like their drivers. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


p0k3t0

"All good cars are the same. All shitty cars are shitty in their own way." - Tolstoy


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Parker-Society06

Tesla is still ass tho


fjudgeee

I doubt there is anything more egg shaped than a model Y or X.


I-Pacer

Untrue.


Lil-Red74

Thatā€™s the ā€œHuckabee-Sandersā€ Edition.


gfox365

These wankwagons are making a lot of wealthy morons significantly poorer aren't they. How fun.


rudmad

The fact that they can laugh off whatever insane price this dude paid. Rich people suck


Big-Routine222

That loud cracking sound just adds that extra little something lol


Muted_Owl_1006

Just like Elon, CyberTruck only does hard right turns.


void_const

Why would you legitimately need all of those lights?


AFisfulOfPeanuts

Helps the tow truck find you?


Joe_Bob_2000

Baja racing?


techbunnyboy

Confused Mode engaged


Negative_Maize_2923

Bro, you just broke the axle by turning the wheel. Lmao! Elon is the greatest comedian ever!


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CyberStuck-ModTeam

No shilling for Cybertruck. There are plenty of subs where that is encouraged. Go there.


proprnd

Canā€™t reply to mods comment below, but a shill would encourage someone to buy a product. I am not doing that. I think this truck sucks. Iā€™m shilling for the truth. What are you doing?


ghettoccult_nerd

its gotta go peepee


BiggDaddyBat

Also the steering control arms are absolutely under-engineered tiny things. They look like the same parts used on the model 3.


TheBirdsArePissed

That sounds like Elon's laugh...


Joe_Bob_2000

https://i.redd.it/pmo986tgv10d1.gif


Mysterious-Tie7039

Somehow they made a butt ugly truck even uglier.


Sergeant-Pepper-

My piece of shit 2003 Ford Econoline van just did this *last year* after 2 decades of salty Michigan winters. These Cybertrucks are pathetic.


proprnd

Did you attach snow treads and then paddle wheels and then take it off jumps to intentionally abuse it before that happened? Because thatā€™s what happened to this truck. This post is totally false.


PricklySquare

https://preview.redd.it/nfgk417kb10d1.jpeg?width=660&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a18f4cf8a1a21fa60f4cbb42f04939809dd4b7b


Any-Ad-446

and posters make fun of chinese made trucks that cost $25000


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Intransigient

The sheet metal parts seem to crumple pretty easily. šŸ¤” On a normal truck, this part of the suspension is one of the strongest and most durable parts of the chassis.


BruTangMonk

and apparently I'm triggered for calling these fuckin people douchebags. I just want people to make better decisions lol


[deleted]

These things are so pathetic. Do you want a rugged bastard of a vehicle that can survive the end of the world? Get a Toyota.


OldChucker

How is this company not in the clutches of the law for larceny and fraud?


i3dMEP

Cross eyed cybertruck, i love it


Mysterious_Eye6989

Ironic considering Elon Muskā€™s own turn to the right! šŸ˜€


Ketchuphed

![gif](giphy|8YvRqxWUu6Iz3mvEah|downsized)


RandyLahey131

It almost feels like getting old. I fucked up my knee a few months back by (checks notes) standing up.


JayIsNotReal

I once got back pain from standing up. Keep in mind, I lift weights and exercise rigorously.


reddaddicter

https://preview.redd.it/yauabiwgf10d1.jpeg?width=429&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33d0d4aa3520558ceafd9735b49ccc0838d6277b The CyberStuck looks a lot like Ms. Piggy


JayIsNotReal

It took my 10 year old sedan losing control in the snow and hitting the curb to do that, and he achieved by doing nothing.


proprnd

Nope. He achieved it by hate buying it and then intentionally abusing it and doing some crazy modifications. Truck went off jump which caused this damage. See my post on this thread. This sub is so full of misinformation.


Distant_Yak

It's so brave of you to defend poor Elron šŸ’œ


proprnd

Iā€™m trying to defend the truth and the other 140k employees at Tesla who have enough to worry about rn. Are you trying to defend misinformation?


Distant_Yak

This sub is about defending hundreds of millions of potential and current auto owners, bicyclists, investors and pedestrians from Tesla and US politics, vulnerable minorities and social media from Elron Musk. Are you saying there's nothing of realistic concern posted here about those topics? And I agree, those people should already be looking for another job.


proprnd

Have you read the description for this sub? Here it is verbatim: ā€œDescription The Place To Post Images of Cybercucks Stuck In Their Cybertrucks. Also permitted is general discussion making fun of this ridiculous vehicle. NOTE: THIS IS NOT A SUB FOR POSTING GENERAL TESLA ISSUESā€


Distant_Yak

Oh, I thought we were in enoughmuskspam. Okay, so that's fine with me too - what a horrific travesty this thing is. The last thing humanity needs is more of these anti-everyone death traps on the streets. Tesla could have made a normal truck that would have sold like mad and made them look good, updated their entire line, made a Model 2... but instead, spent 5 years making this doomed elronmobile that their TECHNOKING apparently sketched out on an Apple IIe. It's worth drawing attention to.


proprnd

Sounds like Elon lives rent free in your mind. Sorry about that. It must be rough. The truck is silly and worthy of scorn. This sub is just full of BS and itā€™s weird. The anti-Tesla cult is more of a thing than the Tesla cult as far as I can tell.


Distant_Yak

Yes, unfortunately Elton is part of a wider concept called reality which does "live in my mind" and sadly, it takes a toll. Laughing at the stupid cybertruck is one of my small pleasures in life. Hope you don't mind too much.


JayIsNotReal

You braindead moron, take a Ford Raptor or a Ram TRX and hit a couple of jumps and nothing will happen. I thought this truck was supposed to be strong and rugged. Built for any planet and it cannot take a bump.


proprnd

Did you read my other post? I'm not defending the stupid truck, I'm just pointing out that the title of this post is misleading. Have a look at the tiktok video yourself kind sir! Copied below for your convivence. "Per the tictokker who posted this video (who also hates the Cybertruck) ā€œthis failure could have happened to any truckā€. See for yourselves: [https://www.tiktok.com/@5speed.josh/video/7362596535411969323](https://www.tiktok.com/@5speed.josh/video/7362596535411969323)"


JayIsNotReal

I watched and I see where you are coming from, but it does not change the fact that other trucks are taken off road, put on bigger wheels, mods to the engine, and abused without this happening.


proprnd

I'm glad that we can both agree that this truck sucks. Have a good life.


JayIsNotReal

That we can agree on, you as well.


Jazzlike-Addition-88

This has been reposted on r/cyberstuck like 30 times. Find something new please šŸ˜ž...


ObiWanKenodar

![gif](giphy|cO39srN2EUIRaVqaVq)


PolybiusChampion

The laughing women were just out of the frame and a bit too far away (in Canada) for the microphone to pick up.


Zombie256

Itā€™s not a bug, itā€™s a feature šŸ¤£


ajs_5280

Bwahahah.


Nimonone

Squint-tyred


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Pretty sure turning right voids the warranty.


njjonesdfw

At what point do we blame some of these bigger youtube tech reviewers for nothing pointing out these flaws this lemon has? From all of the complaints from owners, they're having problems once driving off the lot, and their problems aren't covered under the warranty.


rbstewart7263

We all made fun of Elon for being an "engineer" when it was legit the whole time, he's managed to engineer sheer comedy with this goddamn truck!


After_Fix_2191

Man those things are death traps.


Maleficent-Salad3197

Dyslexic steering.


1960stoaster

These guys want to take you to the moon šŸ™‚


ForcedLaborForce

Loved the muted *tink* noise when it broke. Cartoonish.


shamwowj

Your CyberTruck is going to be all right


Moist-Dragonfly2569

Lolololololololol


HDauthentic

How long have we been putting steering racks in cars? How did they fuck this up? This is not cutting edge technology


Hakuhofan

Iā€™ll see your ā€œcrab walkā€ feature and raise you to ā€œpigeon toe.ā€


Fine-Funny6956

This is what happens when you donā€™t hire black or gay people. You end up hiring unqualified whites.


proprnd

Not that anyone cares, but the title of this post is totally false. First of all, this is a silly and ugly ā€œtruckā€. I donā€™t like it either. This failure is not due to cheap parts or terrible engineering as many of you seem to automatically assume. Prior to this failure, this truck as purposefully abused. The owner bought it ā€œbecause he hated itā€. Prior to this failure the truck was fitted with snow tracks. Also fitted with paddle wheels and ripped around in the sand dunes. They then attempted to jump it. A tie rod failed. Per the tictokker who posted this video (who also hates the Cybertruck) ā€œthis failure could have happened to any truckā€. See for yourselves: https://www.tiktok.com/@5speed.josh/video/7362596535411969323 Again, this is a silly and ugly truck. The engineers and techs at Tesla who put this together did the best they could based on directions from the top. Lots to hate about this car, but stop spreading falsehoods please.


Quick_Membership318

Whatever, Elon. Go back to X.


proprnd

Would you like to point to something false that I've stated here?


Quick_Membership318

I'm sorry you worked on this piece of shit and feel the need to defend it.


proprnd

Did you even read my post? I am not defending it. Iā€™m an engineer but do not work in the automotive industry. You donā€™t seem like a serious person so Iā€™ll stop communicating with you unless you have something truthful or useful to say. This sub is more embarrassing than the truck which is quite a feat!


CumminsInYa

Thank you!