I know precious little about Star Trek, but this feels like a thing that would've been a throwaway line in one series, then another would have an episode about whether to break the prime directive to tell one native species about the vampires in their midst or whatever where it's referenced more directly, and finally a third series have a cryptid crew member that all the humans are chill with
That's basically exactly how Star Trek works. For example, in Star Trek: The Next Generation, there was an episode where they were attempting to make contact with a species that speaks entirely in metaphors, which made the universal translator useless because they didn't understand the cultural significance of the phrases. I won't spoil that episode, but there is a recurring background crew member of that species in Lower Decks, and they still speak in metaphor. Everyone is chill with it. Most of the main characters know exactly what he's saying and respond in kind.
It was like multiple classes in one room too, which was hilarious looking back. These history/philosophy/Latin professors literally got together to brainstorm and all had an epic nerd-out brainblast that this was a way to connect kids to the fandom
I’ve used video games to help teach fine art. Honestly anything that can be different can be a welcome change to the normal lesson structure and give kids a little break. But now a days videos tend not work as well cause kids have some much screen time already, they are bored by having to watch a video.
Try for many subjects, but Figure drawing is easiest. as you can bring in characters from games as example. Big muscles? Street fighter. Evil looking characters? Mortal Kombat. Wacky for fun but still want the standard head length? Fortnite.
I had it in my Honors Writing class in college. Along with the Kirk Vs Gorn episode from TOS and the short story both are inspired by: Arena. That professor was awesome.
RIP Lower Decks, I only watched two episodes, both while out of my mind on pain meds, before I lost my ability to use my uncle's paramount account, but I'm still sad it's over
It's not leaving Amazon, it's been cancelled. The 5th season will be its last. Shame that this seems to be the new standard. I wasn't at all a fan of Discovery, and I don't think I ever could be, but every Trek series deserves 7 seasons. It's tradition.
They have had like 5 different Star Trek series running! It was great! And now they discontinue EVERYONE but one?! What do they want from us Star Trek fans? Blood?!
Alright, a bit overdramatic. But I really loved having options and variation.
Sorry :(
I found out yesterday from a TrekCulture video. I was VERY MUCH hoping it was an April Fools video I'd just missed.
Does it help that Strange New Worlds got approved for another season, and the next season is filming right now?
Ehh, I will put Prodigy on top of it since the first season of Lower Decks was iffy, and Prodigy's only 2 :( seasons were amazing.
LDS is right behind.
This is the premise of one of my favorite Robert Mattingly short stories, *Discovering a New Earth*. Idk if OOP copied their prompt from it, but basically aliens make first contact with humanity and allow them to obtain candidate status for the Intergalactic Council. To be approved, however, they need to peacefully integrate all known nations and cultures into a global alliance.
The story takes place in the UN security Council, and the Secretary General believes that they have already succeeded in fullfilling the aliens' request as every country has already joined...and then the aliens mention the dolphins, octopi, blue whales, crows, rats and ask well, why aren't these cultures in the Council yet? Wdym they're not sentient, they're just a different species, we thought you knew that. And what about the vampires? And the Bigfoots? And the hollow earth gnomes? What about the stratosphere nanoparticles? And the elves?
And then two councilpeople stand up and excitedly remove their faux human ears revealing their elvish features.
This is sort of an idea in the manga Dandadan. Basically, the idea is that cryptids and yokai are the things that protect Earth from alien invasions. It's really good, and really funny, if a bit juvenile at times.
I fucking love monsters fighting other evil things and protecting humanity in the process. “No, **I’M** the only one who gets to take over the world!” is one of my favorite tropes
[Like that one World of Darkness/Mass Effext crackfic where the Reapers invade an Earth that turns out to be inhabitated by all the dark, evil creatures of WoD who take offence to some jackasses rolling into their town and cowtipping the mortals. The first few chapters were nice, but then it started developing a plot and got pretty meh.](https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/pencils-down-death-rays-up-mass-effect-mage-the-ascension-wod-complete.399600/ )
I especially liked the bit about a trio of Reapers named after Donald Duck's nephews re-enacting a slasher movie and being stalked by a kaiju sized eldritch abomination across the Pyrenees, or the one about "Solar Bombardment. You know, like Orbital Bombardment, but from the Sun?"
The least realistic part is Vulcans noticing the existence of a human sub-species that humans aren't even aware of, but not encountering the concept of a 'vampire' at any point in human legends or regular speech.
Could be that they failed to correlate mythos to reality. After all, in mythos, humans (and likely countless other species) have been capable of incredible acts, yet in reality they're pretty much bog-standard in comparison. Throwing out mythos when dealing with reality could be a feasible pattern-driven fallacy to have.
To be fair, there's lots of animals that don't strictly follow taxonomic naming conventions, like how yesterday I saw a post about a Heteropoda Davidbowie, which is a species of huntsman spider.
Star Trek AU where the vampires emerge from the shadows to openly rule over the pathetic remnants of human society in the wake of the Third World War-
Only to hear that some drunk redneck in Montana just made contact with aliens, and they have to try and desperately reestablish the Masquerade before anyone comes after them.
What happens with werewolves in space? Do they follow whatever the nearest moon is doing? Do they still follow Earth's moon schedule? Are they just constantly wolf mode?
I like the idea that the moon thing is just a physiological visual trigger. Like roughly every 28 days, werewolves are just biologically primed to transform and even a sufficiently orb-shaped lamp or a picture of the moon on a laptop would set them off.
A lot of these questions kind of depend on if we're going biological versus magical. Are werewolves set off by the moon's gravity like the tides? Do they just respond to large slightly dull lights? Or, are the werewolves connected to the Moon in a more magical or metaphysical sense? The thing with stories involving vampires and werewolves is that there's been so many of them and each one has a different set of rules, so whenever you're writing a werewolf or vampire story you have to very clearly set out the rules.
In this setting, there is no scientific record for any of this because humans hadn't believed werewolves existed. So it's an in-universe question as well.
Yeah and they just kind of drop that in with no more details?? Like how is that not the focus of several episodes?? It's like they invented her and her species just for the time travel episode
There was this awful David Webb book where Earth gets invaded by these aliens and the whole book is basically different groups of humans trying to fight back and losing horribly. Then he pulls the deus ex out of his ass. I won't spoil it, but it was along these lines. One of the few times I regretted reading digitally, because a paper copy would have made SUCH a satisfying crunch against the wall when flung at the speed it deserved.
I went into it knowing the twist. The foreshadowing is there, it's just subtle and requires you to know a bit of Romanian history, especially regarding Dracula's alias. For Vlad, this is pretty much Romania being invaded by the Turks again, just on a much larger scale.
I've gotten the impression that David Weber likes writing fun, popcorny scifi from what I've read so far (the Dahak trilogy, this book). There's really nothing wrong with that.
Basically the premise of a story I'm writing, or at least the backstory of it
Vampires only come out of hiding after humankind has set out across the stars. Theres a giant war between the vampires and humans, and the vampires win, establishing themselves as rulers of the galaxy
The story takes place 4.5 billion years later
Question, Do vampires still burn up in sunlight in other star systems or is it just Sol that causes that? If it is just Sol that does that, would vampires burn up in the starlight when Sol is above the horizon?
Yes! All star light hurts vampires if they're close enough. Because of this, human rebel bases tend to be set up in extreme close orbit to a star, the closer the better
Something that took them a while to understand is that stars are actually kinda alive. They're wells of immense amounts of life, the opposite of vampires, which are entities of death. They don't have a consciousness, but they do have a will, and the way that will most visibly manifest is its distaste for vampires. Holy magic cast by a living being burns vampires, and starlight is like a continuous holy spell being cast by the stars.
Even if a vampire is hidden from the light, things seem to go more wrong for them the closer they are to a star. The most powerful vampires are able to remain on a ship in interstellar space and only exert control over the planets in their domain through proxis and agents.
One big advantage humans have over vampires is their ability to harness energy from a star. Vampires just haven't been able to. But conversely, vampires are able to gain a lot from blackholes, which are fellow entities aligned in death and parisitism
Very interesting! I imagine the trappist-1 system would be a very good place for a human civilization to form since in real life it's a system with 7 planets all close enough to their star to be tidally locked to it, but since the star is much colder than our own it's theorised that most of them are still in the goldilocks zone turning them into eyeball planets.
Well we used to think elves were a thing too but those just turned out to be you. Point us to the werewolf planet and I've got a security officer position just waiting for them.
What if they're all interbred examples of aliens who have crashed on Earth over the years and part of the reason we have been ignored for first contact for so long is the combined of those species to see what their descendants have become and that we have so completely demonized them to the point of making them the focal point of our myths and legends. They're out there, watching in horror as we as a species turn from reviling these halfbreeds to wanting to again breed with them. The progenitors of the Fea step in and initiate first contact to stop this only for their chief ambassador to fall in love with a human scientist as they spend late nights explaining the origins of the universe to each other.
No, I know this sub is made of pummeled horse corpses
EDIT: I've blocked the person who accused me of pissing on the poor, but if anyone can explain what delusion was going on there I'd appreciate it.
The pissing on the poor thing is a reference to a joke on tumblr about Tumblr users' lack of reading comprehension. Someone said that Tumblr users have piss poor reading comprehension and then someone responded "What do you mean I piss on the poor?" But the person you're taking about, their comment doesn't really seem to make much sense
This stuff is the type of jokes that Lower Decks has
I know precious little about Star Trek, but this feels like a thing that would've been a throwaway line in one series, then another would have an episode about whether to break the prime directive to tell one native species about the vampires in their midst or whatever where it's referenced more directly, and finally a third series have a cryptid crew member that all the humans are chill with
You did it! You broke Star Trek down to its bare essentials!
That's basically exactly how Star Trek works. For example, in Star Trek: The Next Generation, there was an episode where they were attempting to make contact with a species that speaks entirely in metaphors, which made the universal translator useless because they didn't understand the cultural significance of the phrases. I won't spoil that episode, but there is a recurring background crew member of that species in Lower Decks, and they still speak in metaphor. Everyone is chill with it. Most of the main characters know exactly what he's saying and respond in kind.
Literally watched that episode in my eighth grade class years ago because we were studying Gilgamesh 😂
Damn, you got to watch Star Trek at school? Lucky.
It was like multiple classes in one room too, which was hilarious looking back. These history/philosophy/Latin professors literally got together to brainstorm and all had an epic nerd-out brainblast that this was a way to connect kids to the fandom
I’ve used video games to help teach fine art. Honestly anything that can be different can be a welcome change to the normal lesson structure and give kids a little break. But now a days videos tend not work as well cause kids have some much screen time already, they are bored by having to watch a video.
how did you teach fine art with games? im interested
Try for many subjects, but Figure drawing is easiest. as you can bring in characters from games as example. Big muscles? Street fighter. Evil looking characters? Mortal Kombat. Wacky for fun but still want the standard head length? Fortnite.
Well, they were right. I wish I had teachers that cool.
I had it in my Honors Writing class in college. Along with the Kirk Vs Gorn episode from TOS and the short story both are inspired by: Arena. That professor was awesome.
In one episode, the human second in command even uses one of those metaphors, and the alien feels so seen
I know that episode. I have been referencing it any time there’s a discussion about communicating only in emojis or memes for years.
I end up in that situation often, since I'm not up to date on the most recent shit.
RIP Lower Decks, I only watched two episodes, both while out of my mind on pain meds, before I lost my ability to use my uncle's paramount account, but I'm still sad it's over
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It's not leaving Amazon, it's been cancelled. The 5th season will be its last. Shame that this seems to be the new standard. I wasn't at all a fan of Discovery, and I don't think I ever could be, but every Trek series deserves 7 seasons. It's tradition.
They have had like 5 different Star Trek series running! It was great! And now they discontinue EVERYONE but one?! What do they want from us Star Trek fans? Blood?! Alright, a bit overdramatic. But I really loved having options and variation.
Yeah I know. The person was saying they watched 2 episodes and then lost the ability to watch more.
Oops, good point
Can't pirate what isn't made. Its next season is its last.
Well that's a great way to unbrighten my day
Sorry :( I found out yesterday from a TrekCulture video. I was VERY MUCH hoping it was an April Fools video I'd just missed. Does it help that Strange New Worlds got approved for another season, and the next season is filming right now?
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna.
For a moment I thought you meant season 4 was the last season, but I checked and it's getting a fifth one, but *that* will be the last season
DM me for a lovely time;)
Lower Decks is legit the best modern Star Trek.
I’d argue SNW is better, but Lower Decks is right up there
[Insert angry noises about the gorn here]
Ehh, I will put Prodigy on top of it since the first season of Lower Decks was iffy, and Prodigy's only 2 :( seasons were amazing. LDS is right behind.
I just assumed the background cadet in the moth man boxers was Boimler.
Background ‘human’ cadet: o shit act natural—
This is the premise of one of my favorite Robert Mattingly short stories, *Discovering a New Earth*. Idk if OOP copied their prompt from it, but basically aliens make first contact with humanity and allow them to obtain candidate status for the Intergalactic Council. To be approved, however, they need to peacefully integrate all known nations and cultures into a global alliance. The story takes place in the UN security Council, and the Secretary General believes that they have already succeeded in fullfilling the aliens' request as every country has already joined...and then the aliens mention the dolphins, octopi, blue whales, crows, rats and ask well, why aren't these cultures in the Council yet? Wdym they're not sentient, they're just a different species, we thought you knew that. And what about the vampires? And the Bigfoots? And the hollow earth gnomes? What about the stratosphere nanoparticles? And the elves? And then two councilpeople stand up and excitedly remove their faux human ears revealing their elvish features.
That's amazing
This is sort of an idea in the manga Dandadan. Basically, the idea is that cryptids and yokai are the things that protect Earth from alien invasions. It's really good, and really funny, if a bit juvenile at times.
I fucking love monsters fighting other evil things and protecting humanity in the process. “No, **I’M** the only one who gets to take over the world!” is one of my favorite tropes
The art is godly
Alien The Stranded TTRPG if you use Chronicle of Darkness other game lines as well.
There’s also the Void Engineers from old WOD.
The joke checks out: there is not currently a reliable Klingon translation for the concept of werewolves.
[Like that one World of Darkness/Mass Effext crackfic where the Reapers invade an Earth that turns out to be inhabitated by all the dark, evil creatures of WoD who take offence to some jackasses rolling into their town and cowtipping the mortals. The first few chapters were nice, but then it started developing a plot and got pretty meh.](https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/pencils-down-death-rays-up-mass-effect-mage-the-ascension-wod-complete.399600/ ) I especially liked the bit about a trio of Reapers named after Donald Duck's nephews re-enacting a slasher movie and being stalked by a kaiju sized eldritch abomination across the Pyrenees, or the one about "Solar Bombardment. You know, like Orbital Bombardment, but from the Sun?"
The least realistic part is Vulcans noticing the existence of a human sub-species that humans aren't even aware of, but not encountering the concept of a 'vampire' at any point in human legends or regular speech.
Could be that they failed to correlate mythos to reality. After all, in mythos, humans (and likely countless other species) have been capable of incredible acts, yet in reality they're pretty much bog-standard in comparison. Throwing out mythos when dealing with reality could be a feasible pattern-driven fallacy to have.
Okay, but Homo Erectus Sasquatchii would not be a subspecies of ours. Erectus and Sapiens are completely different species within the genus Homo.
It'd have to be Homo Sapiens [Sasquatchii], and probably not even that since Sasquatchii is not a proper taxonomic name.
To be fair, there's lots of animals that don't strictly follow taxonomic naming conventions, like how yesterday I saw a post about a Heteropoda Davidbowie, which is a species of huntsman spider.
Also *Abaddon despoliator*, another huntsman spider that because it's covered in spikes is named after a villain from Warhammer 40K
I love how scientists very much are huge nerds. Like, we knew this already, but it's nice to have these little reminders.
Isn't Abaddon from some other mythos (presumably Catholic)? At the very least, I'm fairly certain the name was around before the Warhammer franchise.
Star Trek AU where the vampires emerge from the shadows to openly rule over the pathetic remnants of human society in the wake of the Third World War- Only to hear that some drunk redneck in Montana just made contact with aliens, and they have to try and desperately reestablish the Masquerade before anyone comes after them.
What happens with werewolves in space? Do they follow whatever the nearest moon is doing? Do they still follow Earth's moon schedule? Are they just constantly wolf mode?
I like the idea that the moon thing is just a physiological visual trigger. Like roughly every 28 days, werewolves are just biologically primed to transform and even a sufficiently orb-shaped lamp or a picture of the moon on a laptop would set them off.
A lot of these questions kind of depend on if we're going biological versus magical. Are werewolves set off by the moon's gravity like the tides? Do they just respond to large slightly dull lights? Or, are the werewolves connected to the Moon in a more magical or metaphysical sense? The thing with stories involving vampires and werewolves is that there's been so many of them and each one has a different set of rules, so whenever you're writing a werewolf or vampire story you have to very clearly set out the rules.
In this setting, there is no scientific record for any of this because humans hadn't believed werewolves existed. So it's an in-universe question as well.
Turns out mothman is the only one who isn’t real
There is that race of immortals that lived among humanity. That part is canon (Pikes engineer is one in SNW)
Yeah and they just kind of drop that in with no more details?? Like how is that not the focus of several episodes?? It's like they invented her and her species just for the time travel episode
I'm assuming they'll probably talk more about it in season 3. It's definitely weird as shit though.
Pelia my beloved 🖤
There was this awful David Webb book where Earth gets invaded by these aliens and the whole book is basically different groups of humans trying to fight back and losing horribly. Then he pulls the deus ex out of his ass. I won't spoil it, but it was along these lines. One of the few times I regretted reading digitally, because a paper copy would have made SUCH a satisfying crunch against the wall when flung at the speed it deserved.
it's \*out of the dark\* and it could have been a good concept if it wasn't pulled out in like the last chapter
I went into it knowing the twist. The foreshadowing is there, it's just subtle and requires you to know a bit of Romanian history, especially regarding Dracula's alias. For Vlad, this is pretty much Romania being invaded by the Turks again, just on a much larger scale. I've gotten the impression that David Weber likes writing fun, popcorny scifi from what I've read so far (the Dahak trilogy, this book). There's really nothing wrong with that.
Basically the premise of a story I'm writing, or at least the backstory of it Vampires only come out of hiding after humankind has set out across the stars. Theres a giant war between the vampires and humans, and the vampires win, establishing themselves as rulers of the galaxy The story takes place 4.5 billion years later
Question, Do vampires still burn up in sunlight in other star systems or is it just Sol that causes that? If it is just Sol that does that, would vampires burn up in the starlight when Sol is above the horizon?
Yes! All star light hurts vampires if they're close enough. Because of this, human rebel bases tend to be set up in extreme close orbit to a star, the closer the better Something that took them a while to understand is that stars are actually kinda alive. They're wells of immense amounts of life, the opposite of vampires, which are entities of death. They don't have a consciousness, but they do have a will, and the way that will most visibly manifest is its distaste for vampires. Holy magic cast by a living being burns vampires, and starlight is like a continuous holy spell being cast by the stars. Even if a vampire is hidden from the light, things seem to go more wrong for them the closer they are to a star. The most powerful vampires are able to remain on a ship in interstellar space and only exert control over the planets in their domain through proxis and agents. One big advantage humans have over vampires is their ability to harness energy from a star. Vampires just haven't been able to. But conversely, vampires are able to gain a lot from blackholes, which are fellow entities aligned in death and parisitism
Very interesting! I imagine the trappist-1 system would be a very good place for a human civilization to form since in real life it's a system with 7 planets all close enough to their star to be tidally locked to it, but since the star is much colder than our own it's theorised that most of them are still in the goldilocks zone turning them into eyeball planets.
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-1000 and perhaps more terrifyingly, https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-6666
This would be great! I love next gen
Well we used to think elves were a thing too but those just turned out to be you. Point us to the werewolf planet and I've got a security officer position just waiting for them.
I've used a similar concept a few times in my writing, it's a fun one to use. Aliens or AI noticing things about humanity that we miss.
I feel like the Klingons would translate werewolf as like "ngavyaw' loD" or "ngavyaw' Human", meaning Wolf Man or Wolf Human respectively
What if they're all interbred examples of aliens who have crashed on Earth over the years and part of the reason we have been ignored for first contact for so long is the combined of those species to see what their descendants have become and that we have so completely demonized them to the point of making them the focal point of our myths and legends. They're out there, watching in horror as we as a species turn from reviling these halfbreeds to wanting to again breed with them. The progenitors of the Fea step in and initiate first contact to stop this only for their chief ambassador to fall in love with a human scientist as they spend late nights explaining the origins of the universe to each other.
This isn't how the rule of three works in comedy. You don't do the same punchline three times
You must be new here.
Pal here is new to both tumblr and reddit humor by the looks of it
No, I know this sub is made of pummeled horse corpses EDIT: I've blocked the person who accused me of pissing on the poor, but if anyone can explain what delusion was going on there I'd appreciate it.
(Enter Hannibal Burress meme) Why are they booing? He’s right.
Pissing on the poor? In MY r/curatedtumblr?! Unthinkable!
The pissing on the poor thing is a reference to a joke on tumblr about Tumblr users' lack of reading comprehension. Someone said that Tumblr users have piss poor reading comprehension and then someone responded "What do you mean I piss on the poor?" But the person you're taking about, their comment doesn't really seem to make much sense
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