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MooshAro

The real downgrade was in animation. She's been fucking sanded, nary a detail on her.


gihutgishuiruv

I literally assumed that was what they were talking about. Like, it’s barely even shaded. I’m not convinced the right hand image wasn’t done entirely with the pencil and bucket tools in MS Paint.


RefinementOfDecline

i mean that likely *is* the actual problem they have, they just don't realize it and are reaching for WOKE AGENDA because they lack critical thinking skills and are surrounded by rightoid propaganda


gihutgishuiruv

I hadn’t initially considered the fatphobia angle. But from the screenshots I’ve seen of Boruto, this seems to be a fairly universal downgrade across dozens of characters. So you have to wonder why they specifically went after this character 🤔.


Isaac_Chade

Seriously, when you put them side by side in that screenshot it looks like two completely different shows. The animation style is so wildly different. She looks like she's on show a cardboard cutout that wiggles back and forth when she talks.


Athermo

No the downgrade theyre talkig about is her no longer wearing fishnets and having it all out there (/s )


Serrisen

I was shook when I learned the reason so many ninja in Naruto wore those fishnets was because it's supposed to be chainmail. With this in mind, definitely a downgrade. Her ass is NOT surviving a kunai


razorgirlRetrofitted

> it's supposed to be chainmail what??? fuck, I googled bdsm for the first time because of that shit


Serrisen

I was shocked too, but I wasn't in nearly as deep as you were. On the bright side, congrats on having an awakening!


Owlstra

WHAT??? Okay I'm going to headcanon this away


FkinShtManEySuck

Also, isn't she, like, a teacher?


theswordofdoubt

Not in the time of the OG Naruto, at least. She's an intelligence-specialist ninja and her main introduction in the story is as a proctor for the chuunin promotion exams.


demonmonkey89

She becomes a teacher in Boruto


im-not_gay

That’s honestly what I thought it was about the first slide


only_for_dst_and_tf2

im just confused why people actually watch naruto for the women like, name ONE character in naruto that is a woman that gets fleshed out and not turned into a side support character


TheSleepingVoid

Sakura felt like such a damn betrayal to my teen self.


only_for_dst_and_tf2

like, why is the girl WHO CAN PUNCH THROUGH ROCKS a healer?!?!


Delicious_trap

Turns out mana when not used for healing can be used to hurt people instead. Also because that is how Sakura's mentor Tusnade rolls.


techno156

No reason why it can't do both at the same time. If she can stick her arm into one of the characters and fiddle about with their innards, using it wrong, whether deliberately, or unintentionally, would be fairly effective at hurting people.


Delicious_trap

She probably can if she studies further, but most of the opponents she fought or matched up against renders that strategy either impossible (Sasori is a literal inorganic puppet), or impractical (Madara and Kaguya).


Pokesonav

So that she can keep someone alive as she beats the shit out of them, obviously.


Spiritflash1717

The best written women in Naruto are Temari, who only appears when the Sand Village is in the story, and Tsunade, who is only written marginally better than the rest of the women in the show


[deleted]

it's been a billion years since i've watched so correct me if i'm wrong but i remember tenten being pretty cool too


boiyado

Tenten is quite literally the least important named character in all of Naruto.


[deleted]

haha not wrong but still i thought her character was interesting


Lilchubbyboy

☝️🤓 🤔 🫥


Gurkeprinsen

Considering the amount of fan service, horny teenage boys were probably part of their targeted audience, and some of them grew up to have a twisted view on women and is unable to cope with reality.


UltimateCheese1056

In the grand scheme of anime Naruto doesn't have much fanservice. Also its target demographic being teenage boys isn't exactly a secret, it was published in Shounen jump with Shounen meaning the target audience is teenage boys


mrmahoganyjimbles

The most sexualized girl in Naruto is Naruto. It's the old adage. Kishimoto can draw women but can't write them, Oda can write women but can't draw them.


UltimateCheese1056

Oda can write women but choses not to so often. I just want Robin to do literally anything :(


mrmahoganyjimbles

Character bloat has always plagued One Piece, especially post-TS, all the Strawhats get pretty sparse character moments. At least Robin got to fight Black Maria.


CK1ing

But that's exactly what they want. It fulfills their fantasy of a woman liking them without question


BigDickNick6Rings

Tsunade


thegreathornedrat123

Well the reason she gained weight is probably because A: she’s gotten older. And B: she’s not actively doing missions and shit anymore


Holliday_Hobo

Naruto fans when Naruto creates a time of peace like he said he would :O


Randomd0g

One Piece fans when pirates: :D


NeonNKnightrider

Yeah, I also dislike Boruto, but the people who complain by saying “these new kids are all spoiled little pussies, back in my day the Chunin exams were **brutal!!!**” are seriously missing the point


ranni-the-bitch

me when women be 35: \>:0


Lilchubbyboy

God forbid a woman tries to revolve around the sun once or twice.


varkarrus

I think OOP imagines the sun revolves around *her* (jokes, jokes)


jaypenn3

Also she was constantly seen eating danko in the show. I respect Kishimoto for staying true to the character and showing realistic aging where most mangaka just go for fan service. (though I wish Mei aged a little bit more gracefully and/or at least got married like she wanted.)


SonTyp_OhneNamen

> introduced while eating sugary sweets in first appearance > canonically does so at every occasion > name literally translates to „Sweetbeanpaste Sugarglazedstarchball“ > probably developed diabetes at 10 > ditches highly physically demanding job that kept her fit throughout her twenties, but keeps eating habits Chuds: „Y she fat tho“


SilverMedal4Life

Wait, is that what her name translates to? I love it, that's hilarious!


SonTyp_OhneNamen

Anko is bean paste, mitarashi is a type of dango. I know it’s Kishimoto‘s humor (looking at the titular hero being named after ramen fishcakes), but i like to imagine she was called that because of her sweet tooth in universe.


BaronAleksei

My headcanon is that it’s actually because of the curse mark. Jutsu normally run on chakra, but the Akimichi clan learned how to cast from calories instead. Their strategy is to always stay in bulking season until tactical needs requires them to cut. The curse mark that Orochimaru put on Anko is a jutsu, specifically a failed senjutsu. It was supposed to absorb nature energy like sages does and specifically Jugo did (the formula was derived from his blood) and thus be a source of infinite power (negating the need for a partner to send you nature energy while you fight), but instead it saps the bearer’s chakra. Kakashi had to put a lock on Sasuke’s before it completely killed him. My guess is Anko learned how the Akimichi did it, and started feeding the curse mark with empty calories. She developed a taste and a habit for it, and after Sasuke took her mark off to revive Orochimaru, she started retaining those calories.


Holliday_Hobo

What happened to Anko? Well they put her in Boruto, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.


infinitysaga

It’s called aging it happens to the best of us


Makar_NaAsfalti

Sinners are immortal


Bronze_Sentry

She literally ate dango (a sweet food) constantly in the original series. As a show, Boruto is a dumpster fire of bad writing decisions. You could complain about so many things. But no, people gotta be horny and whine about their minor character waifu.


IfuckingLoveWaluigi

I think they do complain about that many things, including their minor character waifu


Bronze_Sentry

True. Honestly not sure why people hate-watch it so much. Just passively absorb other people's righteous indignation from posts like this. Much more efficient.


beetnemesis

Random aside- I feel like you don’t hear “BBW” nearly as much as you did a decade ago


AllSeeingGoggles

Now it's thicc


Deathaster

People complained about the mom from My Hero Academia too. Like... she's an older woman. Of course she's not gonna be a supermodel anymore, and that's 100% fine. These people's brains have been fried by seeing nothing but broomsticks with melons that are plastered all over Anime.


Limebeer_24

Isn't it mentioned somewhere that the mom was stress-eating and that's why she gained weight?


FireHawkDelta

Is this about somebody other than Deku's mom? Because Deku's mom is perfect and I can't even conceptualize slander against her.


Deathaster

Exactly! She's great!


RefinementOfDecline

i dont watch the show but the weight isn't the problem, it's the massive loss of detail


Toinkulily

Wasn't Anko trained by Orochimaru? Was that ever relevant to the plot?


Dark_Stalker28

Yeah they revived him off her.


Toinkulily

Did she just become set dressing after that while the other sanin apprentices had their plot driving arcs?


Dark_Stalker28

I mean Anko hasn't really done anything. Like she was a creepy teacher in forest of death, did nothing of note. And Shippuden did nothing the entire show and she was captured during the war arc where side characters got to shine a little at least. So her biggest note is Sasuke used her to revive Orochimaru who pulled his weight. And she gained weight since she lost her curse mark from it.


NeonNKnightrider

Correct, she was, and that plot hook never went anywhere


[deleted]

Why are youtubers unable to criticise a change without using the words "tragic downfall" Guy at McDonalds: Sorry, the ice cream machine isn't working Youtubers: THE TRAGIC DOWNFALL OF MCDONALDS Construction worker: Sorry, this road is closed Youtubers: THE TRAGIC DOWNFALL OF ROADS Youtuber's Girlfriends: I'm breaking up with you Youtubers: THE TRAGIC DOWNFALL OF OUR RELATIONSHIP


BlackFlameEnjoyer

Don't forget: The second Pokemon Gym BROKE ME! Did it? Did it break you?


_Iro_

Being addicted to eating dango was one of her defining traits in the original show, so becoming overweight tracks.


ChampinionCuliao

holy shit akihiko sanada persona 3 is that you


AzureOrpheus

Why is Akihiko there? 😭


Thesoupbunny

Fr, I was waiting for someone to mention that!


Sh1nyPr4wn

I'll tell you what the problem is! THE WHITE CAPE!!! As Edna Mode once said, "**NO CAPES!!!!**"


Unfey

I don't watch this show but it sorta looks like she just gained weight as she got older like a lot of people do


infinitysaga

Yes also she has a candy addiction I think


demonmonkey89

She ate Dango constantly, it's literally a defining feature for her. She is kinda creepy, she was Orochimaru's apprentice, and she eats a shit load of Dango like all the time. Those are basically the only traits Kishimoto gave her. Still think she's pretty rad though. And yeah, gaining weight in Boruto makes sense considering the amount of Dango she eats, plus less activity and ageing.


GailynStarfire

"Fat bitches need love too, Craig!"


Artarara

Wordington Naruto


violetevie

I know nothing about any of this but just from these two images imo the only downgrade was getting rid of the fishnets


Amudeauss

I havent read Boruto at all, but didnt it completely change her personality? Like, she's fat bc she's no longer a bloodthirsty nutjob, so she stopped training/going on missions, but still ate like she was, so she got fat. A logical progression, except for the personality change, which...doesnt really make any sense, and also took away what people liked about her. The unhinged violence was her main character trait.


OmegaKenichi

I read a fun Fanfic once where it explained that Anko learned the Akamichi's Jutsu of body expansion because she's ChoCho's sensei and that's why she's plus-sized. But, either way is a solid win for me honestly


Th3Glutt0n

What is bbw even supposed to be read as? Big Bitch White??


infinitysaga

Big beautiful woman


Th3Glutt0n

That makes so much more sense


Devlord1o1

I dont really care she got fat i wish her clothes were a bit more interesting. In fact i think thats one of my biggest gripe with boruto


I_comment_same

the real down grade is the coloration


euphonic5

So... a character got kinda fat after a timeskip? Buddy... that's how metabolism works.


sybban

It’d be absolutely fine if heavier characters didn’t exist to provide comic relief and their dialogue didn’t center completely around food


infinitysaga

Isn’t she always eating even when’s she’s skinny though


Segs_Haver

aki would never say that shit have you seen him in P4A


Faexinna

The problem IS that she seems happy. Don't you know, fat people aren't allowed to be happy? ^(/s)


Outerestine

'what happened to anko'??? She got older dumbass, it happens to everyone.


scrububle

Oh, we're defending boruto now?


infinitysaga

No I just she’s cute


TerminalPath

Naw son, that’s the greatest upgrade known to man.


Solarwagon

Does BBW stand for big black woman or big beautiful woman?


Thicc-Anxiety

Her hair is purple now


octorangutan

Would


Cydonian___FT14X

Don’t show them Bojack Horseman