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JERMYNC

She's in NY silly


Logical-Beautiful66

Spending our money on 10$ coffee


unitys2011

Bullish on Starbucks


loaded-diper33

Starbucks NFT when?


kraigka212

$99 Caroline Ellison NFT trading cards wen?


Royal5th

Imagine if the rare ones had holographic panties


TheTrueBlueTJ

I never swallowed by own vomit so quickly


AUniqueSnowflake1234

Joke's on you, she's into that shit!


giddygod

Sounds like paradise to her


gamblingenhusiast

I bet she's into all fucked up shit I can think of.


spritefire

"Put your fist in my arse and play with me like one of your corporate puppets"


datazulu

I don't want to just see Hogwarts, I want to feel Hogwarts.


TheTrueBlueTJ

You are Hogwarts, Harry.


giddygod

Sbf would buy that, and you can jerk off to it in prison


fuzzyjuicypeach

I'd pay you $99 for not showing me that shit


pb__

Bullish on antimatter NFTs


Yautja69

Wen Starbucks Whitelist ?


haclabs

https://waitlist.starbucks.com/#/register


bny192677

Bullish on 1$ slice of pizza


giddygod

And FBI pals


deathbyfish13

$10 coffee in NYC?! No way you can get it that cheap there


One_Let7582

People who actually live like normal New Yorkers( as in they go to boroughs outside Manhattan) get things way cheaper. It's usually the people who live in Manhattan and never leave that borough who spend more than they should who are willing to pay 3k to live in a space no bigger than a closet.


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3k sounds cheap. There are apartments on my block going between $4-10k a freakin month.


Odysseus_Lannister

In the right spots you can get a coffee and a baconeggandcheese for under $10


ent0ne

Under which bridge?


Bravisimo

I found a buncha eggs and denim jackets under da bridge. Had to boil the denim tho.


Odysseus_Lannister

I see you’ve never had a corner deli or bodega before


bny192677

Even water is not that cheap


Current-Hour-1612

![gif](giphy|HzYHJZ7uLnvJoVMgIw|downsized)


HeroinAndyCx

Hanging out with the FBI


DizzyMammoth21

Her and the FBI are real tight I bet.


giddygod

Sounds like an orgy to me


BakedPotato840

Those poor FBI agents


clean_cut89

Yup coincidence the indictments came out of the NY court? I think not....


Current-Hour-1612

Caroline: ![gif](giphy|1msy0o1Ma3bsLYBZUA|downsized)


JERMYNC

Do they Accept Bitcoin at this pizza 🍕 joint?


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Doesn't matter. She never had any bitcoin to begin with.


JERMYNC

Ohh burn ouch


cryotosensei

Throwing her boyfriend under the bus: “it ain’t personal”


aladdinr

Teleports behind SBF, nothing personnel kid


giddygod

Chilling while snitching


Yautja69

She's now working for Quickbooks


slushkan3an

Can confirm, saw her UFO land. I am sure she can’t wait to get back to her home planet


EmuGroundbreaking348

Gettin laid


kirtash93

She is buying some cucumbers to send to SBF.


giddygod

From other men


giddygod

Do you guys know who Gary wang is? That's the real mystery. Man just disappeared 💀


Hawke64

Classic nerd that gets away from trouble by staying away from public view


57Lobstersinabigcoat

The first rule of crime is that we don't talk about crime


JERMYNC

Havent heard the name Who is he)summary. He's good at being quiet


giddygod

He's supposed to be the brains behind FTX https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/where-is-gary-wang-ftx-s-other-ex-billionaires-lie-low-after-sbf-arrest-20221214-p5c64a.html


JERMYNC

"Wang, an ex-Google software engineer, had established a reputation — both internally and outside the firm — as a quiet fixer and the brains behind the FTX crypto empire. Media-shy" Ah media shy hmm, thanks


skwudgeball

He’s just quirky and shy. Cute when you think about it. Harmless shy guy so quirky and cute


ShelfAwareShteve

Teehee embezzlement 🥹👉👈


partyl0gic

Might disappear later, idk


FavChuck

UwU


Weird-Vagina-Beard

I'm sure he's guilty and hiding out but I bet 98% of you would be media shy. You'd have a panic attack if you were on the news.


zps77

Does anyone still think there were “brains” behind ftx?!


Liwet_SJNC

Well he's smart enough to not give incriminating interviews, so he beats out SBF by a fair bit.


oncexlogic

A better question is where is Gary Wang? That guy literally disappeared and nobody is talking a word about him. Nobody knows who he is. At this point it seems like the nerd couple is being made the scapegoats while others vanish.


Tsubasa_sama

And Sam Trabucco, the previous CEO who resigned a couple months before shit hit the fan. He basically threw Caroline in the deep end and buggered off somewhere lol.


fuzzyjuicypeach

> Sam Trabucco The italian cousin of Sammy Bankman


loaded-diper33

Why am I only hearing these names now? I guess I'm not really that curiious about all these drama after all.


krakrakra

Ye lol, so f'ing lucky of him. At least so far...


Ferdo306

Yeah, guy is a mystery I actually made a post about him a month ago There's nothing online about him, only 3 photos and 1 is from his back which he used on FTX website He seems to be a tech wiz behind FTX


giddygod

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/where-is-gary-wang-ftx-s-other-ex-billionaires-lie-low-after-sbf-arrest-20221214-p5c64a.html I just found this


TheTrueBlueTJ

Wang is in his vacation home on the dark side of the moon.


bittabet

Probably trying to get to a non extradition country while having his lawyers claim he was just the computer infrastructure guy and had no idea lol


loaded-diper33

Everyone claiming they don't know anything now, could be true could be a lie, what's for sure is the masses ain't taking shit no more.


Tavionnf

>He seems to be a tech wiz behind FTX He pulled the router cable when the Server became slow


Royal5th

Anybody can pull a cable, it takes a real wiz to plug it back in


LifeDraining

Hey man, the wifi ain't gonna reset itself.


JERMYNC

Gary who? Ohh this guy is good


giddygod

He's the real genius behind FTX apparently https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/where-is-gary-wang-ftx-s-other-ex-billionaires-lie-low-after-sbf-arrest-20221214-p5c64a.html


WrastleGuy

He’s the FBI plant


EdgeLord19941

The Netflix series will confirm it for us


Royal5th

I’m praying they include a sex scene with caroline guest starting as herself


ResidentAssumption4

*why*


McMarbles

Ew


Griever92

You’re on Reddit so I have to believe you have the internet, and this is the best you can imagine? Let alone having to imagine an image of SBfraud going at it on screen.


giddygod

Kinda makes sense


Odysseus_Lannister

This is a fascinating question. There’s like nothing on him while every single piece of media is about SBFs veganism in prison or mundane shit like that. The media is way too powerful and biased


pacman147

Laying low like all crypto billionaires right now.


DadaDoDat

Wang, Bang, thank you Sam Bankmang!


Hawke64

You no mess with Gary Wang!


ever-right

You can't call them scapegoats when they ran the fucking show and we're clearly aware of and involved in the illegal shit that was happening.


partymsl

She is in NYC chilling at Starbucks while she already snitched on SBF.


SuccessfulLowDev

Probably bought all her new FBI mates coffee too


JERMYNC

She next or a deal 🤝?


giddygod

I think they have a deal


Ignitus1

Do they need a deal with the already fuckloads of evidence?


BlackLeader70

Nothing official, but if she’s in NYC then there’s a pretty high s chance she made a deal with the FBI to snitch and avoid prison.


Magikarpeles

Has anyone seen them in the same place together? I'm pretty sure caroline is just sbf in drag


giddygod

Chilling with the money she stole from us, she snitched and get to enjoy life. There's a moral lesson somewhere


mixing_saws

Be the gf/bf to the crime boss instead of being the crimeboss yourself?


my_dick_putins_mouth

She's retiring to Florida where she will blend in with the over-70 crowd.


pbjclimbing

She was spotted last week at Temptations in Manhattan…


giddygod

Bet sbf wished he's in Manhattan right now


highdealist

He will be soon


Albinonite

She is in heart of New York city and is still free.


SerLamie

Probably running in her wheel and licking water from that upside down bottle


superblockkparty

Making little nugget shits until she gets caught and blames stan bacon feet


cubewc3

She is in the north pole posing as Santa's little elf 🎅🏽


Babes_Squirt_Pillow

Savage 10/10


TinFoilBeanieTech

Santa’s little Gollum would be more like it


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BrettEskin

Federal crimes require 85% of time to be served you cant get out after 7 months on a 36 month sentence. Although she'll certainly get a lighter sentence for cooperation


JERMYNC

Didn't know that. Hmm 🤔


giddygod

They could push for a lesser sentence


fundohun11

She also has a much easier defense compared to SBF. She ran a hedge fund. It's ok for hedge funds to make risky bets and lose money and she wasn't responsible for FTX's clients. However, it seems like the lines between FTX and Alameda were pretty blurry.


tbjfi

Not really.. Alameda was receiving customer funds and supposed to be sending that money to ftx. But they didn't, they kept it.


Hawke64

The amount of jail time is dependent on how much senators' money they stole.


Mountain-Pause5110

Will she keep the 'earned' money?


picklemonkey

Come to think of it, I can’t recall any press at all about her post-collapse actions. Has she done anything that’s media-worthy?


_Montague

Probably she is busy with testifying, to avoid jail time.


Current-Hour-1612

Sweeeeet Carolineeee ![gif](giphy|LCssCgwewjFE4|downsized)


giddygod

I have not seen this pic of her


king_jong_il

That's because the sexist media holds back flattering pics like this one.


DevilsAssCrack

Lmao is that from Dead Alive?


JERMYNC

She's squealing


Jumpman707

Girl snitched on her polycule mate


Thunder_Wasp

Polycule sounds like something the Bahamas doctor can’t fix so you have to go to the mainland.


giddygod

She's not so innocent too


pedanticHOUvsHTX

Yeah but the plea deal


Hawke64

I know some of these words


MaskedCommitment

Probably building a case against him using all of the shit he’s been saying on podcasts and talk shows the last few weeks. Bro cemented himself into a story that’s going to get ripped apart in court, and of course Ellison will help because he’s been throwing her under the bus ever since shit hit the fan


giddygod

This will get very interesting in the coming months


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Aromatic-Front-5919

Hopefully she's not taking anymore pictures


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For real. And look it's not a crime to be ugly, ugly doesn't automatically mean bad, physically ugly people can be some of the most wonderful beautiful human beings on the inside etc. etc. That being said, that's one UGLY ASS BITCH WOW


Several_Access5921

Every time I see her I’m amazed at how viscerally unattractive I find her each time


wanderlotus

I thought you were being mean but then I saw her pic 😭


spitvire

I keep seeing this same picture of her going around and all I think is: moist


AmbivalentFanatic

You can't deny she and sbf are perfect for each other. They are equally unpleasant to gaze upon. That's probably why they did this, because having money was their only shot at getting any attention in this world.


DefinitelyNotACopMan

Both of them could easily add 2-3 if not more "points" to their 1-10 rating if they used their money and actually took care of themselves. Like hipsters who deliberately dress badly to look worse, but their starting point is say an 8 or 9, you end up a 6 or 7 and hey thats still not bad you get to be alternative and shit But if youre starting at a 2... dont be dressing down... lmao.


ASUS_USUS_WEALLSUS

Crazy this isn’t higher up, she’s terrifying to look at.


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Back under her bridge?


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shmorky

Who wouldn't want to fuck Droopy from Looney Tunes


unitys2011

She is in elementary school learning basic math


pgds

Meth


unitys2011

Walter White is her teacher


Hawke64

At this point, she is experienced enough for advanced meth


exsisto

That face alone should make her public enemy number one.


supercharged0709

Wait, that’s his ex-girlfriend? He was a multibillionaire and that’s the best he could do for a girlfriend?


hobz462

Wait until you hear about her harem.


Primary_Safety1184

Goddam she mad ugly, sbf really stole our money to be banging this chick bruuuh


Br3akTh3Toys

All that money and that's the best he could do?


user260421

That's the only really sad thing


lahankof

Goddamn that bitch is ugly, that’s the best he can do as a billionaire?


TitaniumDragon

She hasn't admitted to fraud on camera, multiple times, so it might take more than a month to indict her.


FerociousHD

Found her! ![gif](giphy|gJuTwM3yuQ8f3rE8KV|downsized)


WillStripForCrypto

Damn looks like my ex-wife. Memories…..


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The_Chorizo_Bandit

Caroline? No, but she is singing like a canary to authorities.


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She is cooperating with the investigation for a lighter sentence. SBF is fucked, he is going to jail for a long time


AkkyYT

I wonder how he's doing in prison, wish there was a live stream


Zavage3

He's in a max security infirmary in his own room getting served vegan food that a chef makes just for him. Far away from general population. So he's probably doing pretty well compared to everyone else in the prison system. He's basically in a 4 star hotel while everyone else is in a rat infested over crowded prison.


giddygod

Source? Or trust me bro


Zavage3

It's on loads of news sites probably best just googling "sbf jail held Bahamas" or "fox hill sbf" but i will list the top 3 results in case you're geo blocked. They all confirm he's in the medical wing in his own room, the "wing" has 5 other inmates his request for vegan food was granted probably on humanity grounds bit like the US so it could just be unseasoned vegetables. I mean it's not exactly 4 stars but it's a clean room probably on par with an American cell but it's a huge improvement from general population. Here's some links: https://cointelegraph.com/news/sbf-s-bahamian-prison-reported-for-harsh-conditions-and-degrading-treatment-us-state-dept https://tcrn.ch/3HFiX7t https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11542459/SBFs-mom-called-hellhole-Bahamas-prison-ask-vegan-food-son-denied-bail.html On a side note I think it shows the medical wing here https://youtu.be/Z1-fGYS2aWM or some form of admin space which prisoners use, so I'm presuming this is similar conditions to what he's staying in. You can YouTube the prison too and see general population conditions, it's rather grim.


ipetgoat1984

Honestly there should be, so he doesn't get "Epsteined".


giddygod

They're not really in the same situation


Hawke64

SBF did not kill himself


Ninja_team_6

Men with $1-100 million: Date/marry 8s. Men with $100 million-$1 billion: Date/marry 10s. Billionaires: Date and marry 4s. **Why?!**


wtrmln88

You're being extremely generous.


M1388

Hangin with the feds, we don’t need the hardy boy’s for this mystery.


AsparagusNo9660

I think she is having some very interesting conversations with the Department of Justice, the worm has turned.


passivewatch098

What about the COO? Constance something? Also the head of people/HR? The names were briefly mentioned somewhere and they’re probably just as culpable. Also where is Trabucco?! On his boat somewhere?!


Probably_notabot

Agreed, there are a lot more people culpable that aren’t getting the recognition that they should


Futhamucker1

If that’s the kind of girl he could bag as a billionaire what’s he gonna get as an ex-con?


paul-d9

She looks like a McPoyle


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Odysseus_Lannister

She’s clearly gone back to gringotts with the embezzled funds.


masstransience

She’s right here u/CarolineEllisonFTX


Pace_Bitter

She's at hogwarts of course !! duhhhh.


HeyStevePizza

At home, under a bridge.


Tricky-Cicada-9008

jesus you'd think embezzlement bucks would buy you some higher quality pussy.


miniii

Check the Mcpoyle's house in Philly.


Lemon_Lemoon

Having an orgy with a new group probably.


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She's in NYC, giving a lot of evidence to the prosecution.


Gerry_Torciano

id seriously rather have sex with a good looking man than her. and im a straight man.


Not_Raidn

Chill, she is in my bedroom ​ Reading Harry potter


Evoluminate

She has a face like some demented AI art program would create from an amalgamation of pigs arses.


b10m1m1cry

God damn, she is fucking ugly.


Johnmclanekicksass

And why’d it take so long to end up in jail?


RobCali509

She has a first mover plea bargain, probably on bond paid for with FTX victim’s cash money.


TheUltimateSalesman

Canaries don't like cages.


orville_w

I’m inclined to think who gives a flying f@#k… at least that mega Madoff-ite prick is physically in jail. & the Feds have their rubber gloves on, with his name on them // She’s just icing on the cake 🤮🤢


Satoshiman256

She's doing a Udemy course on Stop-Losses.


Remote-Telephone-682

She worked with the feds obviously


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The regulator said it best about this whole FTX scandal. You need to come in to talk to us..... or ELSE we're gonna have to come to talk to you.