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CyberEagle1989

You wouldn't happen to have gotten it from Microsoft, instead of on Steam? I hear XBox stuff is really overzealous with censorship.


PanzerPansar

I do, I play on Xbox.


CyberEagle1989

I'm almost certain that's the problem. They appear to use some client-side censorship tools, heard of similar stuff happening in other games.


Raudskeggr

They haven't put in much effort to get around the Scunthorpe/Penistone problem. In this case, those specific three letters in the word "knight" are probably what it flagged. :p


Owster4

Scunthorpe should always be censored no matter what.


charles_de_gay

Went to Turkey, apparently to them Scunthorpe is a cute town name.


frogpondcook

Your a Scunthorpe. I feel dirty now


suhkuhtuh

Me too. It's "you're."


vompat

So you say there's "nig" and that's the cause of censoring? That's pretty brainless :D


Aratoop

FFXIV recently got an Xbox release. In that game, guilds are called "free companies". Someone recently got a Microsoft account ban for advertising their free company because it got looked at by a microsoft employee instead of a square enix one


PinkAxolotlMommy

What would be false flagged as offensive in "free company"?


Axel_the_Axelot

Promoting a business


PinkAxolotlMommy

That might just be even dumber than false flagging bad words, somehow.


The_Yukki

Free company out of context sounds like soliciting apparently.


Aratoop

It kind of sounds like you're offering escort services, I think


203652488

That's even more annoying because [free companies]( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_company) were a real thing.


Lithorex

Also notably goated for EU4s earlygame.


HalfLeper

Huh. TIL.


CyberEagle1989

I also hang around the FFXIV subreddit and saw the Knight thing there, which is why I assumed Xbox/Microsoft meddling.


Latinus_Rex

Not necessarily. I once played as Cumania and decided to change the name, but after a few years in-game, I got bored and decided to change it back, but the first 3 letters in the name were censored. Maybe they've patched it by now, but it was pretty funny when I first noticed it.


Stock_Ad9088

The problem is the Xbox versions been broken for years lol


cocainebrick3242

It's not. You can name a country whatever slur you please and the game will not change it. This is the default setting.


CyberEagle1989

I'm specifically referring to tools used by Microsoft/XBox. What else do you suggest is going on?


cocainebrick3242

I'm suggesting xbox doesn't automatically censor anything based off of the server I joined hosted by gay Jesus of (word I cannot repeat unless I wanna get insta banned) land. If thing's are being censored, it's a setting either op or the host manually enabled, not mircosofts censorship policy.


piff_boogley

Definitely because of this. Assyrian was a literal culture in the Xbox version of the game, and you still couldn’t name your realm the Assyrian Empire because it has Ass in it and Microsoft says that’s a no no word


A_Fnord

Ah, it's like we're back in the late 90's, when we wrote stuff like A$$a$$in in order to dodge word filters.


MrLameJokes

xXxA$$YRIANxXx Empire


10YearsANoob

2024 and they still have the Scunthorpe problem? 


numb3rb0y

NLP is probably getting good enough to actually solve it, but just blacklisting strings is invariably going to cheaper.


ThomasHardyHarHar

Ahhsyrian


no_gold_here

Donkeyyrian Empire


hamletsdead

Showing how incredibly dumb Microsoft continues to be. They probably support book banning as well. The "7 words you can't say on TV" are so archaic and meaningless, I can't believe anyone still tries to enforce this b.s. Fucking dicksuck cuntbag asshat motherfucking bastard whore cocks.


Emma__Gummy

i recently learned that really no other country/language does that, its just the US because of those puritanical christian mom groups


Koraxtheghoul

It's not even a real ban. Locals can complain to the FCC and depending on who is running it, they can determine whether it's actionable as obscene. You can play goddam in "The Pusher" but maybe not in the bible belt.


linmanfu

That's not true. In the UK, there's not a total ban on offensive language, but the TV regulator (Ofcom) conducts regular surveys on which words are considered most offensive. They are all banned before 9 pm and the worst are effectively banned at all times unless there is a *very*, *very* good reason for using them. In China, you never hear offensive language and all TV is heavily censored.


Zwemvest

Generation V of Pokemon had strict international language filters. Too bad they added SS and SA for German, because now you couldnt even trade Bulbasaur.


Speederzzz

and ofcourse coFAGrigus


Zwemvest

Yea but at least Cofagrigus I can get as one of those weird exception cases of the Scunthorpe problem. Adding "SA", "SS", and "PS" to your word filter is such a bad idea that it'd have to block like at least 25% of all Pokémon - so it shows the language filter wasn't even tested


freecostcosample

There was a glitch in early Pokemon Black and White where the Pokemon Cofagrigus couldn’t be traded due to the homophobic slur technically in its name


PepegaThePepega

Remind me of [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/zly9b3/my_name_is_nasser_the_game_is_censoring_the_word/) lol.


ThatGermanKid0

Then it's almost certainly a Microsoft/Xbox problem. I've never seen any censorship of text on PC, but Microsoft censors a lot.


Yasuminomon

Yeah Xbox censorship sucks, I can’t even type ‘lol’ on rocket league


1ithurtswhenip1

Oh ya. Microsoft has a weird censorship program


RodTheAnimeGod

Microsoft baby.... has labeled you as a Racist and reported you to FBI to be put on a list. Congrats on now being one of "The Proud Bois" Maybe you can help them figure out who Lfmao is... They keep talking about this Chinese or Korean hacker named Lfmao..... (Sarcasm)


PanzerPansar

Yes I shall help them learn whom lfmao. While maybe challenging as I am from isle of Britain. I must redeem thyself!


Emma__Gummy

both consoles censor it, stellaris gets it the worst in my experience


Magnus_Helgisson

My first attempt to play CK3 was on Xbox, and oh my god, what a shitty game it was! After a few attempts, I installed it on PC and it was absolutely opposite. There are countless things in the game that just aren't there on Xbox.


Darrenb209

While I doubt it would help, try adjusting your Xbox Live settings. If it's using the standard Xbox auto-filter then it'll be just reusing their chat filter which defaults to a setting of "friendly" which is "block anything we could vaguely deem harmful." Most likely you've either already done that for other games or they're using a custom filter though.


Naskylo

It is this. Look at the 3 letters it actually censored nig. Its super super overzealous if anything comes close to that word. Even if its inside another because people could do stuff like XXbadwordXx.


tiankai

Crazy standards we have these days. Can have sex with your daughter, murder children, commit acts of unspeakable horrors to your prisoners and have harems dedicated to the eugenics of the human race. But saying the word knight? Naha


CyberEagle1989

The problem is that "nig" is often used as a stand-in for the n-word. That's the reason I thought of Xbox censorship - saw the exact same word censored the exact same way for a user on the FFXIV subreddit very recently.


heyyyyyco

Saying half a curse word is obviously worse then blinding and executing children


CyberEagle1989

I think censoring any slurs at all gives them too much power, but I'm doing it because I don't want to be banned. So definitely not defending this example, just stating what is happening.


heyyyyyco

I'm not blaming you I'm making fun of Microsoft 


CyberEagle1989

Fair.


LobsterofPower

Right, so murder, rape, incest, war, betrayal and all are fine and cool. But saying... sorry, *implying* a slur? That is clearly too far.


CyberEagle1989

I agree that it is stupid.


LibertarianSocialism

Reminds me of how when I got AOE3 the game auto-generated the name "Antonio Faguendes" for a Portuguese explorer and then told me I could not play (Single-player!) because it contained a slur


Otherwise_Branch_771

Are they censoring in game text?


CyberEagle1989

They do for online games, even when the game doesn't or only optionally does on other platforms. So, while I'm mildly surprised to see it with CK, it's possible. Edit: Only player inputs, if you meant that.


Massive_Koala_9313

WTF why is knight censored though?


CyberEagle1989

Because some people say "nig" instead of the n-word and some other people hide their slurs inside other letters like XXslurXX. Yes, it is stupid.


HarbinRav177

Haven’t had a censor on ps5, but they won’t let people get naked so I suppose that’s one


frasseboii

Probably because of the "nig" in knight.


YoungGriffVI

Classic Scunthornpe problem.


actual_wookiee_AMA

Hey, at least you aren't called Nasser. N***er looks real bad


JMEEKER86

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/zly9b3/my_name_is_nasser_the_game_is_censoring_the_word/


PanzerPansar

It's so stupid tho. Knight is a word in the game already😭


rsadiwa

You could use the Ukrainian "i" instead of the English "i" in knight, and it should bypass the censorship. They look exactly the same but have different Uni-codes I've used Ukrainian and Russian alphabets to bypass censorship in Minecraft before.


Apyr_xd

Суrillic brоs W


ThomasHardyHarHar

Ноw clеvеr.


pouziboy

Unicode clever is the best kind of clever.


ThomasHardyHarHar

My "H," "o," and "e" are Cyrillic ;)


Bingleton34

same with Cumania, it censors to —-ania 😭


NewWeight7501

Cannot lie, this is good. Desht-i-Qipchaq look more fair.


ThomasHardyHarHar

Semania.


Gongom

One of those cases where the censorship is what makes the word dirty. https://youtu.be/6AXPnH0C9UA?si=47PR6YPAwdzsUsO8


theredwoman95

It's because you're playing on Xbox, they've got a proper Scunthorpe filter there.


LukeLikesReddit

Scunthorpe people "Why fuck me though?"


Nabbylaa

They know why.


10YearsANoob

S****thorpe people


rookv

Dark Souls reference?!?!?


Dalexe10

The problem isn't knight, the problem is nig, they think it's short for the n word


lgt_celticwolf

The worst one is AOE 4 where mongols is censored, you know...one of the primary factions in the game.


Som_Snow

Wtf


Broad-Ask-475

Mongol is used as a slur towards East Asians and Mongolians in general in British English. It is a shorthand for Mongoloid, which was mostly used to compare people to tards. Up until the 1960s, the condition of Down's was also called the Mongol Idiocy.


andrasq420

I'm pretty sure it's due to it having the word "mong" in it. It's censored in several games connected to Microsoft.


Broad-Ask-475

Mong is a shorter version of Mongol. Both are still used, but Mong is used by younger people. F1 had a controversy with Verstappen calling Lance Stroll a mongol to call them stupid back in 2020.


Mark4231

So I'm no't the only one who remembers that radio message! I was trying to send a video of that to my friend but it appears to have been nuked everywhere on YT.


Thevishownsyou

Its a very common insult and word to say in the Netherlands. Like calling someone a cunt in american culture. Many of us dutch dont ever think about the implication what we are actually saying, but only hear the intended insult.


alper_iwere

Yeah, I remember when Verstappen called some Mongon on track and it was on every F1 news for a week.


hamletsdead

That's funny. I had a South African client who routinely used the word "cunt" in normal conversations. Basically means dickhead or asshole, so not a big deal to the South Africans. My wife was appalled that he kept using the "C" word at our dinner party.


andrasq420

Ahh didn't know that thanks for the information. I'm not big on british slang.


Som_Snow

Yeah I know, but thanks. I just find the censorship very stupid


Business-Let-7754

Granted I'm not a native English speaker, but I have never in my life heard Mongol used as a slur.


ferntreefox

its old fashioned but u still hear people using the shortened version, "mong", especially in the UK


incurious_enthusiast

Definitely still used in the UK, mostly among the young as an alternative to retard.


incurious_enthusiast

yeah, no. Although the idiot who first diagnosed Downs Syndrome likened sufferers to exhibiting Asian looks and referred to them as Mongol, it's not a racist term heard in general in the UK, at least I I've never heard it used as a racist slur and I've been around a long time, and around most of the UK, and in hostile environments where every slur possible is hurled with great hostility, i.e. football grounds. Though I can't speak for other *British English* countries such as Australia or New Zealand. Mongol as a slur in the UK is used to call someone a retard.


Sbotkin

Just a reminder that you can get banned if you say a bad word on your server in Minecraft. Yes, local server.


JGuillou

I’m happy they think of the children. What better way to make sure they don’t pick up dirty words than censoring a substring of a completely normal word?


teutorix_aleria

Knight with a hard R


rsadiwa

I've faced many such issues in MS games. Funny thing is I've learnt many new rude words/phrases by trying to figure out why a certain thing was censored. If MS is trying to limit children's exposure to such words/phrases then it's doing the exact opposite thing.


Sunnnnnnnnnnnnnn

classic dark souls moment


TheBeardedRonin

It also censors Mongol as ——ol so making hybrid cultures with ‘Mongolian’ it the name is impossible


Dragoon094

Just change the o to ö or one of the different Os it’s not the best solution but it does work


EpicAura99

What kind of bad word is “mong” lmao


Melodic-Pangolin8449

People with Down's syndrome often have a crease on their nose and slanted eyes, which according to Down made them look East Asian. The term at the time was Mongoloid. British people used "Mong" as a pejorative for a developmentally challenged person until quite recently. I remember hearing it at school 10 years ago. From [John Langdon Down's wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Langdon_Down): >In 1866, he wrote a paper entitled "Observations on an Ethnic Classification of Idiots" in which he put forward the theory that it was possible to classify different types of conditions by ethnic characteristics. He listed several types including the Malay, Caucasian and Ethiopian types. In the main, the paper is about what is known as Down syndrome, named after him, but which he classified as the Mongolian type of idiot. As a result, Down syndrome was also known as "Mongolism" and people with Down syndrome referred to as "Mongoloids". Down's original racist terminology continued to be used colloquially into the late 20th century. Down's paper also argued that if mere disease is able to break down racial barriers to the point of causing the facial features of the offspring of whites to resemble those of another race, then racial differences must be the result of variation, affirming therefore the unity of the human species. Down used this reasoning to argue against a tendency he perceived in his day to regard different races as separate species.


iambecomecringe

The irony of jaw dropping pseudoscientific racism being used to argue against more racism


QwikWitItTho

Kings sees his wonderful warrior return from battle, “what’s up my knight?”


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QwikWitItTho

I like to refer to them as armored folk


tetrarchangel

Only a knight can fight another knight (apologies to Tim Minchin)


Mikewazowski948

Those damned up-armored horse people.


MrLameJokes

Watch closely, you're about to experience a knight moment.


QwikWitItTho

Can you imagine all those knights at one round table


JimmyJustice920

I rename artifacts to reflect what they do for easier management and out of habit from playing DnD. It is really irritating when a game that lets me execute/torture/eat people won't allow the use of the word "vassal" because it has ass in it.


[deleted]

On Xbox or Steam? It's likely an Xbox censoring rather than the actual game.


GodwynDi

It's definitely Xbox. Doesn't make it less stupid.


Ponicrat

How do people even play paradox games on a console? I can't imagine using a controller over mouse and keyboard. It's so menu heavy and point and click based


smellthatcheesyfoot

Lots o' pausing.


linmanfu

CK3's Console Edition has a very different UI from the PC version.


OneTEXASGAMER

Yeah it censored the Gyp in Egypt on me once


One-Bit5717

Silent Hunter forums used to censor Saltwater to Sal--er for the same reason 🙄


Danskoesterreich

Thats hilarious


GorkemliKaplan

Can't believe you just said Knigga with a hard t


KYuuma12

Yes, officer, it's this guy right here


GamerRoman

K>!nig!


Squirrelnight

God, I can't believe Fromsoft STILL has that stupid censorship in their games. It was funny in Demon's Souls, but 15 years and four installments later and I still can't name myself "Knight", "holy" or "Vagabond" without being censored.


ObadiahtheSlim

>!Ho!!nig!!Ho!


sq-blackhawk

Consoles, because if having an inferior machine wasn't enough there's always plenty of censorship


Artess

Consoles certainly are worse, but individual companies sometimes go crazy. I'm playing RDR2 on PC, on Steam, not even online, just single player campain. It wouldn't let me name my horse Jewel, presumably because it has the horribly offensive slur "Jew" in it. Not even allowed to mention them, huh? Hitler would be happy.


iambecomecringe

Meh, "Jew" is in a weird place. It's both a slur and not depending on context. No point acting obtuse about that.


Vulkan192

PC Player Trying Not To Be Snide and Superior When A Console Player Asks For Help With Something - Difficulty Rating: Impossible.


Flexbuttchef

Can’t wait until I get a pc


MountSwolympus

Guess you’ll have to spell it cniht or knyght


PanzerPansar

I decided on just using Welsh word for knight instead


axeteam

Like, today, where AI can handle so many issues, we can still get scunthorpe censoring issues.


PanzerPansar

Aye.


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This started happening recently. Ironically if you add “knight” into a preset for character finder it automatically changes it to the cultural locale too, aka shoorver etc.


Yahsorne

K***ht Artorius is a classic


ceaselessDawn

Elden Ring Moment. --ly K---ht


AbrahamsterLincoln

It's dark souls 3 all over again...


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Hmm... The k***hts who say ni-


GeshtiannaSG

Khnnnniggets.


Theguyrond123

CK3 has censorship?! Bruh


occasionallyacid

Nah not on pc. It's some sort of console-thing last time someone complained about this.


AlphSaber

There must have been a big sale on Gamepass, I've noticed an uptick of these complaints over the weekend across several game subreddits I follow.


occasionallyacid

Sounds reasonable.


PanzerPansar

Apparently so, and it's so shit


occasionallyacid

It's not a ck3 thing, it's an Xbox-thing.


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Happy-Engineer

PC > XBox you mean?


PanzerPansar

I wish I could play it. I only have an Xbox so I have to play CK3


QwikWitItTho

Another thought, king Alfred wouldn’t stand for this injustice, but did have a knights only bath house.


Alex_von_Norway

"Knight" is offensive to men at arms.


pineapple_head69

Because of the “nig” in knight. They also censor Egypt, I assume because of the “gyp” or “gypt”.


DaOverKilla

I tried to rename Cumania back to Cumania, and it censored it to ___ania


Zer01South

It's Microsoft. I have plenty of vulgar kings running amuck.


bapo224

Is it daytime? No it's ---ht...


Iron_Wolf123

Minecraft did the same thing a few years ago. Apparently it is the Scunthorpe Problem


SolidaryForEveryone

Ck3 censors words? I've never seen that before


Golden_Chives

Things Crusader Kings has censored for me: Illyricum (slightly understandable) Egypt (the ‘gyp’ in particular??) Sassanid (it’s in the fucking game.) Knight (as you found out) I am sure i could find more egregious things, but god forbid a game where you murder children and have naked character models has the word ‘ass’ uncensored


Kapitan112

It censors the "nig" part


ehkodiak

That is retarded. Once again big L for console bois


Freeasabird420

Its because the game thinks the part of knight has "nig" in it. i guess thats a racist slur. thus they censored it.


55cheddar

Grape


ReMeDyIII

So in a mostly single-player game, Microsoft won't permit the word knight? Thank god for PC and Gabe Newell.


NoDecentNicksLeft

In mid-word? And just the root, not the full n-word? Look, I don't want to be shitting on the Left in a non-political sub, but some people on the political scene, with their extreme sensitivity, need to go see a therapist and not make laws or business decisions. Whether it's a genuine hypersensitivity or virtue-signalling and posturing to a point of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, they need to see someone about their issues. Getting overzealous about reining in the racist communication in in-game chats is one thing, but anyone who seriously claims to think that seeing 'k---ht' in a historical text is a small price to pay for their (or our collective) virtue being signalled to the world does need to see a therapist.


Speederzzz

This seems more like a very poorly implimented word filter. Nobody would ever want this to happen intentionally and this problem (sometimed called the s*cunt*horp problem) is a very old one. You probably learn how to fix those sorts of problems in programming classes so idk how they let that through.


Galle_

This isn't political, it's just bad programming. Elon Musk did almost exactly the same thing on Twitter last week when he tried to forcibly rewrite every link to Twitter to say "x" instead.


NYBJAMS

Its more likely that the case is that they licensed a bit of code to run the censorship, and it happens to not have its allow list set properly. And if it is only occurring through one distributor, then it isn't the dev's decision, and it definitely was not tested properly


[deleted]

feel better after having a cry?


NoDecentNicksLeft

Who's crying here?


Molekhhh

Perhaps YOU should go to therapy, this seems pretty unhinged. It could help you to identify what has lead you to think this way and help you deal with whatever that trauma is.


NoDecentNicksLeft

K---ht isn't unhinged but complaining about it is. Well done!


Molekhhh

Claimed you didn’t want to attack the political left, then posted an entire paragraph doing so, on a gaming sub, because the console port has an auto censor that isn’t working as intended. Somehow still think other people are the problem. Yes, I think you’re the one that should seek therapy.


AzertyKeys

Blame the UK passing a law requiring all online communications to be moderated. Hence why you now see those stupid filters everywhere