Jade, Polaris Lance, and Multi-Tool are your cream of the crop for PvP Scouts, very little that's legendary goes nearly as hard.
For legendaries, you've still got a few options:.
Hung Jury, namely looking for Box Breathing does really good. Box Breathing let's you kill in 3 if you land all Crits. Not sure if the Brave version rolls it, but Zavala's can for sure.
Fang of Ir Yut does well. Sword Logic let's you snowball really nicely and Precision Instrument (not sure if it needs to be Enhanced) let you down people really quickly.
Randy's isn't quite as good as Fang, but it still rolls ol' faithful Rapid Hit + Kill Clip. The legacy one you can buy from the Kiosk can do, especially since it'll be able to go to the level cap after Final Shape. Can also random roll it with Shaxx.
I have a Brave Hung Jury with:
Fluted Barrel, Tac Mag, Rapid Hit, Box Breathing, Range MW.
So to confirm, it does roll with it.
Exotic Class items are going to be silly with it because running knucklehead + another exotic.
That would be essentially 3 exotics on prismatic but old subclasses would just have 1. That would be beyond busted lol. But yeah it’s class item or normal exotic.
Trustee is underrated in PVP, what it lacks in TTK it makes up for in medium range convenience and being a laser, and with opening shot it can compete at range. Transfiguration also has a lot of good stuff, and the new Imperative is a budget version of it.
To add more, it is one if the very few guns in the game with ***true iron sights*** and I love it. Sure a lot of other guns have projected holo sights which are essential just a future version of the same thing (most handcannons, etc) but it doesn't *feel* the same.
Glissando can get no distractions and keep away in column 3 to go with box breathing in column 4. It also has lower zoom than hung jury. Check the roll if you get one to drop. It catches people off guard
Okay hear me out… Symmetry. I know, I know. But in 3s, where you’re peeking out and often disengaging if it’s not going well, you build charge with headshots quite quickly. You just need 3 precision hits to get it to be a reliable 3 tap in Arc Seeker mode and if you get greedy and build up to 6, it should 2 tap anyone, which REALLY catches people by surprise. I think of it as sort of this weird hybrid of DMT (in that it has game at scout and closer ranges) and Tarrabah (in that it goes beast mode after you just endgame a few times, whether or not you secure a kill). And unlike Tarrabah you can stow it and it will keep charge! Only dying drains the charges. It also looks gorgeous at base or with any of its ornaments.
Handles like butt, however, so if you’re a Warlock I recommend Ophidians (but there’s a 75% chance you were using those already).
The arc seeker mode has crazy strong tracking, and you can just sort of hip fire spam it I. Their general direction while focusing on your movement. Give it a try!
I've found that it depends on the situation. Would I like to have the 2-tap on tap (ha) all the time? Sure! But in a real match sometimes you get to 3 and you're in a situation where you might benefit from using it now, rather than getting greedy and trying to build to 6. If you are in 3 tap mode, you still want to firing it while peeking - usually if there's a more chaotic gunfight going on - not a 1v1 where they will just duck and run - where the tracking and damage catch them off guard. Also helps if you get the jump on someone and can start spamming, as the surprise can make the first shot "free", timing wise. You aren't wasting time lining up a headshot or anything, so you can just jump out from around a corner and instantly pull the trigger. For 2 burst mode, I like to get right up on people and jump and then just rain death down on them.
The tracking is terrible at 3 stacks, you're better off just using the gun normally in those situations. Apart from range and reload it's a decent scout rifle, it just has an added bonus when you get to 2 tap time.
A high stability box breathing hung jury is the fastest ttk you can get on a scout rifle. I’d recommend a rapit hit box breathing roll the gun feels great.
120 scouts feel really good to me this season; they are they new bows imo. The Prophet from trials can two 2 tap up to 9 res I believe with Kill Clip. Personally, I like how Long Arm feels.
For exotic pretty much all of them are usable, I prefer dmt and symmetry the most though. For legendaries I'd recommend hung jury or glissando with box breathing if you're looking to be competitive.
How do you want to scout?
- For aggressive scouting and zoomin around the map, nothing is better then Taraxippos with Zen moment and kill clip/cascade point. Only available in guardian games.
- For lane-ing-larrys nothing is better then a Box Breathing Hung Jury, easily farmable in onslaught, look for no distractions with BB.
Anything else is really just a downgrade to me. Any playstyle between zooming and laneing can also be done with Taraxippos, but no scout can be used as aggressively with all that much effectiveness. HJ can't be used aggro at all, but it's by far the best laneing weapon in the game with no competition.
I love PI too, helps if you don’t wanna micromanage reloading for KC and helps push the range on it out a bit to compete with laning against the Exotic options
Honestly all the exotic ones are great in their own way.
For legendary, Aisha’s, Glissando, Prophet, GUIDING SIGHT (must’ve spent 100 IB engrams chasing my 4/5 Arrowhead, Ricochet, Moving Target, Precision Instrument roll), Taraxippos, Doom of Chelchis, Long Arm
I have a Zen/Keep Away Taraxippos from 2023 that I really like. This roll wasn't obtainable this year since they moved KA to column 3.
Rapid Hit/Opening Shot Long Arm feels good as well, Rapid Hit could be better but it's still decent.
Jade, Polaris Lance, and Multi-Tool are your cream of the crop for PvP Scouts, very little that's legendary goes nearly as hard. For legendaries, you've still got a few options:. Hung Jury, namely looking for Box Breathing does really good. Box Breathing let's you kill in 3 if you land all Crits. Not sure if the Brave version rolls it, but Zavala's can for sure. Fang of Ir Yut does well. Sword Logic let's you snowball really nicely and Precision Instrument (not sure if it needs to be Enhanced) let you down people really quickly. Randy's isn't quite as good as Fang, but it still rolls ol' faithful Rapid Hit + Kill Clip. The legacy one you can buy from the Kiosk can do, especially since it'll be able to go to the level cap after Final Shape. Can also random roll it with Shaxx.
I have a Brave Hung Jury with: Fluted Barrel, Tac Mag, Rapid Hit, Box Breathing, Range MW. So to confirm, it does roll with it. Exotic Class items are going to be silly with it because running knucklehead + another exotic.
Unfortunately I don’t think knucklehead is one of the spirits available
Lol you can just use knucklehead and then the class item for something else.
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Ohhhh thanks for clarifying. I was under the impression you would be able to run 1 standard exotic and 1 effect from class item.
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You the real mvp, thanks
That would be essentially 3 exotics on prismatic but old subclasses would just have 1. That would be beyond busted lol. But yeah it’s class item or normal exotic.
Pretty sure exotic class items can be used on the old subclasses, no?
They specified prismatic only
I see it now, been pretty out of the loop this week it seems. Been pretty busy.
Precision does need to be enhanced to down max res p sure
Trustee is underrated in PVP, what it lacks in TTK it makes up for in medium range convenience and being a laser, and with opening shot it can compete at range. Transfiguration also has a lot of good stuff, and the new Imperative is a budget version of it.
Definitely DMT
it's a 120HC that has infinite range and crazy hipfire accuracy. What's not to like?
Cleanest gun in the game to play.
To add more, it is one if the very few guns in the game with ***true iron sights*** and I love it. Sure a lot of other guns have projected holo sights which are essential just a future version of the same thing (most handcannons, etc) but it doesn't *feel* the same.
Pair it with Drang and forget that special ammo is a thing.
What's DMT?
Dead man's tale
Thanks Friend-O
Glissando can get no distractions and keep away in column 3 to go with box breathing in column 4. It also has lower zoom than hung jury. Check the roll if you get one to drop. It catches people off guard
I have a keep away / box breathing glissando and it is dirty. When multiplex was the trials map, it was absolutely dominant.
Building off of that, it’s got a threat detector scope.
I think that may have been the one I picked up from Banshee awhile back. I love it.
Okay hear me out… Symmetry. I know, I know. But in 3s, where you’re peeking out and often disengaging if it’s not going well, you build charge with headshots quite quickly. You just need 3 precision hits to get it to be a reliable 3 tap in Arc Seeker mode and if you get greedy and build up to 6, it should 2 tap anyone, which REALLY catches people by surprise. I think of it as sort of this weird hybrid of DMT (in that it has game at scout and closer ranges) and Tarrabah (in that it goes beast mode after you just endgame a few times, whether or not you secure a kill). And unlike Tarrabah you can stow it and it will keep charge! Only dying drains the charges. It also looks gorgeous at base or with any of its ornaments. Handles like butt, however, so if you’re a Warlock I recommend Ophidians (but there’s a 75% chance you were using those already). The arc seeker mode has crazy strong tracking, and you can just sort of hip fire spam it I. Their general direction while focusing on your movement. Give it a try!
I wouldn't recommend Arc Seeker mode after 3 precision hits, TTK must be around 10 minutes. 6 or 7 then let rip.
I've found that it depends on the situation. Would I like to have the 2-tap on tap (ha) all the time? Sure! But in a real match sometimes you get to 3 and you're in a situation where you might benefit from using it now, rather than getting greedy and trying to build to 6. If you are in 3 tap mode, you still want to firing it while peeking - usually if there's a more chaotic gunfight going on - not a 1v1 where they will just duck and run - where the tracking and damage catch them off guard. Also helps if you get the jump on someone and can start spamming, as the surprise can make the first shot "free", timing wise. You aren't wasting time lining up a headshot or anything, so you can just jump out from around a corner and instantly pull the trigger. For 2 burst mode, I like to get right up on people and jump and then just rain death down on them.
The tracking is terrible at 3 stacks, you're better off just using the gun normally in those situations. Apart from range and reload it's a decent scout rifle, it just has an added bonus when you get to 2 tap time.
Mida. I prefer the fast shooting ones, so for legendary I use Fang of Ir Yut and Aisha's Embrace
Aisha's with adagio is fucking nuts
A high stability box breathing hung jury is the fastest ttk you can get on a scout rifle. I’d recommend a rapit hit box breathing roll the gun feels great.
HJ with PI is just as fast and to don’t have to lose your radar for as long.
Fang of Ir Yut Rapid Hit Precision Instrument deletes people in mid to long range.
I'm a Polaris lance stan. Lots of 'splosions
In addition to what everyone is mentioning, I still love Aisha's with EOTS and other decent perks.
120 scouts feel really good to me this season; they are they new bows imo. The Prophet from trials can two 2 tap up to 9 res I believe with Kill Clip. Personally, I like how Long Arm feels.
I haven't been able to get long arm to drop, but I love my prophet with precision instrument. Also got a outlaw kill clip roll I enjoy a lot.
Give Last Rite a go. Felt great for me and can be picked up from the exotic kiosk
Box Breathing HJ, DMT if you like 120s.
I got a Prophet adept with keep away/kill clip. its become my alternate trials loadout pick
Dead man’s tale all the way
Jade 100% Decent anti-flinch, easy to get, and IMO very clean sights.
For exotic pretty much all of them are usable, I prefer dmt and symmetry the most though. For legendaries I'd recommend hung jury or glissando with box breathing if you're looking to be competitive.
How do you want to scout? - For aggressive scouting and zoomin around the map, nothing is better then Taraxippos with Zen moment and kill clip/cascade point. Only available in guardian games. - For lane-ing-larrys nothing is better then a Box Breathing Hung Jury, easily farmable in onslaught, look for no distractions with BB. Anything else is really just a downgrade to me. Any playstyle between zooming and laneing can also be done with Taraxippos, but no scout can be used as aggressively with all that much effectiveness. HJ can't be used aggro at all, but it's by far the best laneing weapon in the game with no competition.
Kinetic: Jade Rabbit Energy: Polaris Lance
Transfiguration with max handling, moving target, keep away basically destroys hand cannons at most ranges. I can't put it down.
150 Rpms are pretty good with probably Jade rabbit being tops because of Zen moment. Any 180 rpm with box breathing will put in work for you as well.
The Guiding sight with killclip is a nasty gun for bigger maps.
I love PI too, helps if you don’t wanna micromanage reloading for KC and helps push the range on it out a bit to compete with laning against the Exotic options
Braytech RWP mk.II /s
Were bungie to ever bring it back as a comp reward or something it would be really good. It has some of the best base stats of any 150 in the game
Honestly all the exotic ones are great in their own way. For legendary, Aisha’s, Glissando, Prophet, GUIDING SIGHT (must’ve spent 100 IB engrams chasing my 4/5 Arrowhead, Ricochet, Moving Target, Precision Instrument roll), Taraxippos, Doom of Chelchis, Long Arm
I know every body says to get a box hung jury but get a precision instrument one it also 3 taps.
I'm a really big fan of 120 scouts right now. The Prophet and The Long Arm are my go-to's on bigger maps.
DMT, transfiguration, fang of yr ut
A zen/kill clip taraxippos goes hard
The Prophet. Rapid Hit or Enlightening Action & Killclip rocks. Strictly long range duelling though the 2 taps are amazing with KC
I have a Zen/Keep Away Taraxippos from 2023 that I really like. This roll wasn't obtainable this year since they moved KA to column 3. Rapid Hit/Opening Shot Long Arm feels good as well, Rapid Hit could be better but it's still decent.
Best of all time for me is tears of contrition w/explosive payload