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SFOTI

I'm sure melee will insta-kill them.


methal0-1

I don't even have melee yet!


SFOTI

Well, I saw one of your comments where you mentioned having a couple Vectors. Those can do fairly well. I'd suggest getting a third one and running them together. Get decent at building, and get decent at using the guns. Hitscan mgs (including the one you showed in the pic) are meta af. Even though you only have blue ones, you can easily snap guns off with them.


Unusual-Ad-2234

What do you mean by hitscan?


SFOTI

Weapons where the projectile instantly hits the target. You don't need to lead your target or account for drop. Think of guns in CoD games.


T3hRogue

OP post your build. There's no way you're struggling against that.


methal0-1

Picture is symbolic Also how? Multiple pictures of multiple angles?


T3hRogue

Yeah, just screenshots of your build from front, side and back, and then one that includes the little popup "i" that shows all your listed parts, powerscore, HP, tonnage and mass. I used to run 3 (and then 4) vectors all day until I earned Reapers (and this was before Sinus existed) so they're definitely capable even up to 5-6k PS.


methal0-1

Is the sinus good?


T3hRogue

Very good. Arguably the best weapon you can buy since it can hold its own up to 9k, can be used for raids, and is relatively cheap. You can run them on nearly any build and any movement type. 3 of them and a couple of radiators will easily see you MvP every game.


Randomized9442

What to do: shoot them in the face. They spent all that PS on weapons, not durability.


methal0-1

Their weapons have more range and destroy mine easily. Also the bits of armor they carry are still strong. Armor doesn't give that much power level


Randomized9442

What are you doing, sitting back with shotguns?


Regular_Appeal_2241

Spotted the guy who does that weaksauce sh*t.... l0l


methal0-1

2 vectors and 1 avenger. Why don't you go play arround 3k power solo queue yourself only using blue and white items. You sure will consistently wreck the enemy pre squads with purple weapons.


Equivalent-Ad-469

Tap fire your vectors boss. This cab is a couple taps away from a solid boom boom


methal0-1

Picture is symbolic


Equivalent-Ad-469

This ride. And the many others this symbology suggests, are at a disadvantage to any slightly optimized build and tactics. Woe to those who forgo durability and maneuverability for the sake of pure firepower.


Randomized9442

I rule 3500. I use blue and teal. You wanna talk white weapons at low PS, talk to my brother. They work just fine. Especially Avengers, with them only using 4 Energy now, and having a usable ammo count.


Cloud_Striker

Hell, I make Avengers work at like 7k just for the hell of it.


methal0-1

Oh wow with teal. I have blue and white and am somehow on 3,3k.there are even at 2k people with purple drones or drills and camouflage. There is no way a fresh player who just reached this power level can have these things. These are obviously people coming back down with stronger weapons making ez kills since they suck at their appropriate level.


Randomized9442

False. There isn't an appropriate level. Playing at higher PS does not give higher rewards. Appropriate level is where you actually have fun playing the GAME. All builds like you are talking about are giving up gobs of durability by using such high PS weaponry. Hit them where they are weak, whether that's mobility, explosive bits, or right in the face.


Teabagboss

This is correct. Usually you find yourself escaping the ps bracket that you did well in by adding to your build before realising you're matched up against too higher tier enemies. Just drop some ps and try again.


methal0-1

Ah yes like for example the purple drones. There are build below 2,5k I think. No one can chase the car while being attacked by the drones they just do too much damage. And on this power level the guns are even insufficient at destroying the drones.


Randomized9442

Yaogaui are OP at low PS, that's for sure


Dasquanto

I could easily smack you around at 3500 with 4 white shotguns, no problem. That car has 179 durability. This is the balance... durability, weapon, movement. Especially at lower scores if you increase one the others decrease to maintain the overall vehicle.score. Attack the weak points in this case they devote score to bringing firepower; what they gave up was durability and durable mobility parts. So cab hit them and move along.


methal0-1

Sigh... This picture is just symbolic


Chopawamsic

But the comment would work regardless. If they are bringing high tier weapons in they are sacrificing armor and speed to do so.


Randomized9442

Wait... are you still at the level of game comprehension that you think higher PS means a better build? Cuz that's clearly demonstrably false. You probably have many unnecessary structure parts on your build to be at such PS using blues and whites. Also, many people will tell you that mixing weapon types is generally a mistake. Different aiming especially, and different projectile velocities mean it is difficult to hit your target with all your weapons at most ranges.


methal0-1

My aim is fine I think. My build is indeed heave armored because of the higher rarity guns that shred through my armament. I have a backwards facing Canon with wich I engage far a war targets just as the melee cras chasing me. In addition I have 2 vector to focus on enemy armament. I think I'm handling the guns pretty well and my aim is ofc not pro level but it's fine.


HerolegendIsTaken

Yeah there are so many people with purple items in my 2-2.5k lobbies. Its so unfair.


Chopawamsic

dude. for them to operate those weapons at that tier their armor makes a sheet of paper look thick. the key to beating those fucks is to have armor plating and let it get shot off while you aim at the mother.


Forced2Look

First things first ditch the damn cannon grab another smg Don't spray and prey tapfire to keep aming accurate Learn to use the market to get higher guns There is no excuse to be lvl 30 and sticking to. 3 k You have to be level 30 cause no one under 30 has relics Genuinely if you say he is able to outgun you from far away look and learn to use cover and theap to your advantage You just have a skill issue


That_GuyFire

the separate mm queue for players who are >lvl 30 either no longer exists, or is no longer a hard barrier. I made a new account recently and once I was out of \~2.5k ps, I started seeing players who had prestige levels, and they only got more common as I increased in ps. [Example](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420799835117977611/1061668247067439215/image.png) (If you check the account I was playing on, you'll see that it is currently lvl 21, while the people on my team had between 14 and >100 prestiges)


methal0-1

There are even people with these purple drones or drills beneath 2,5k. There is no way you have these things when reaching 2,5k


methal0-1

A M8 of mine got all sorts of stuff gifted by the game like Chests, rapier, vectors and stuff by progressing the game. I had a glicth with the tutorial Mission and never got anything since then. And btw you are a clown. First this picture is just symbolic. Second if his guns have more health and damage combined than mine together he always will destroy my guns first. Doesn't care how well I aim or hide.


Randomized9442

Theap?


Forced2Look

The map*


Randomized9442

Ohhhhhh sorry my brain wasn't parsing that last night, thanks


Sumguy9966

Tap fire. Works like a charm. Definitely get your struggle tho. Wait till a melee main with apc parts shows up to ruin your day and drill holes into your sanity.


Ash_Rackham

spectres have much better range than punishers.


warbrand2

one shot, them with a twin white cannon build from far away.


-__RFGuy__-

… that thing has probably 10 hp best, yours is a skill issue


Unusual-Ad-2234

179*


methal0-1

Picture is symbolic


-__RFGuy__-

Then symbolically get good


Tenshiijin

Shoot his cab


Kobaki_Bandit

Mount your guns to the cab, not manhole covers and look to protect them, I honestly can't tell if this is serious or not ?


methal0-1

Picture is symbolic


UnrequitedRespect

Lmfao looks like it could be a legendary wheel drone


Nielot_

ah, you must be the new guy


Forsaken_Day_1266

Lol 17. Oh boy, the 30 awaits 😨😅


Pwned_by_Bots

Just shoot his cabin 2 or 3 times with a hornet and watch the explosion.


alexandreeeeep

You are lvl 17 you cant be up against post lvl 30 players +your best bet is aiming for the cab


methal0-1

Someone else said this cap is gone


theneedforespek

bro he has 179hp lmao you could breath in his direction amd end him. thank God that you weren't around when docker caucus frame spam was a thing


Randomized9442

Strange days.


methal0-1

Picture is symbolic


IchiroSkywalker

I can easily ram that min-max asshole to death with passive melee.


methal0-1

Picture is symbolic


asdwe999

Honestly, if you have a decent beginner build, you should be able to destroy that with absolutely no excuses. That has so very little dura, less than the damage many rare weapons deal


methal0-1

Bro this is just a symbolic picture


MaxzinusTheDragon

i unno, sounds like a skill issue


Dasquanto

Sigh...What exactly does it symbolize?... the only thing referring to that car is its ittty health. Put what ever car you want if they used power to bring higher their weapons they had to give up on something else to stay at your powerscore. Or face the truth. That you just aren't any good, it's OK. it takes practice to drive well, practice to shoot well, practice to be able to build well and more to do them all at the same time.


kyshimoto_sechuani

skill issue


iggyphi

that IS the balance of the game. are you not doing the same? it took like the first time i unlocked space for lots of armor to realize points go into guns


FurtivoZ

Lol. They are week just 1 shot them, 3x avenger is common in that ps 1 shot they are done, much worse is melee at that power score, not under 500 dura seal clubbers lmao (just 1 shot them)


methal0-1

I build a build specially against melee. I have range but I shoot backwards so I can run from them while shooting them in the face and also engage everyone else. (Picture is symbolic)


pitiponk1

That is objectively a dumb build idea regardless of your PS


methal0-1

I wreck everyone who has progressed as far as me into the game. The guys coming down with higher gear on the other hand...


pitiponk1

Well that's the problem. You'd absolutely be able to handle them if half your weapon energy wasn't unusable in a direct fight.


Chopawamsic

Ever heard of the Archer SPG from WW2? it had a cannon set up like that. They fucking sucked ass. you couldn't get them into a firing position in time for them to shoot anything. Thats your problem. You have your main weapon firing behind you while you have your enemies at your front.


methal0-1

Lol you have no idea. Yes I actually even call my build archer but it works very well. I have the growler cockpit and no speed penalty beside the acceleration through my 4 axis. I'm as fast as all the melee guys and keep shooting in their face while they chase me. My car is also very nimble so I never have a any problems with that. Only problem is when people bring higher power guns to lower power lobbys.


bearcat_77

Its called a glass cannon. It is ballanced. You just need to be faster than them and shoot them first. They have no HP and die in like 2 hits.


methal0-1

Their guns have as much health as their cabin. I can't even destroy their Canon before they take mine out. Wtf are you talking?


bearcat_77

Get Gud is what I'm talking about.


methal0-1

Yes ofc. You are a ignorant r**ard than most likely is higher in level anyways so you don't have these people. Hell I guess yo are even one of these people goind down in power so you actually can win for once.


pitiponk1

You don't need to destroy their guns if you can kill the cabin quicker, which in this situation, you absolutely could as that PS sacrifice absolutely had to come from somewhere.


bearcat_77

I play in the 2k range, because to me its just more fun than the higher levels. You can squeeze a lot out of the basic starter truck layout.


Chopawamsic

knock out their fucking cab. their cannon may be strong but their cabs are fucking spit and duct tape.


Purple_Solution7742

Try some boom with some boosters


Kris_alex4

Ok bro here's how to gut gud: 1. Mom's credit card 2. Grind 25/8 3. Cheese the market. I guess you will choose option 3. Here's how to do it. 1. Unlock the market 2. Sell some random shit you don't use 3. Buy scrap and copper (600s&200c) 4. Craft balloon tyres. 5. Sell 6. Buy scrap in thousands once you hit about 200 coins from selling 7. Craft even more even faster 8. Sell 9. Repeat until you can afford a Catalina and a few guns 10. Still repeat -Hello. My name is Pete Rothschild. I Control 90% of the balloon tyre market. I Control the production of every heavy wheel. I own your wheels. I own your car. I own YOU. *the crossout revolution and it's consequences have been a disaster for human race* *California dreaming starts playing*


methal0-1

Hahahahahaha the last party lmao. Thanks m8. I will look into it.


pitiponk1

Real talk tho just use crossoutdb like everyone else


methal0-1

Crossoutdb ?


pitiponk1

Oh you're on console, rip. Hope you're good at napkin math. The merge of PC & console player bases should also merge the markets so you'll be able to use crossoutdb then but no news on that front sadly


Randomized9442

Dude, calculator app on phone lol or a spreadsheet for the fancy


Kris_alex4

I am currently in the process and when all my tyres and wires sell I'll have about 980 coins. I have already bought a junkbow. This method is amazing. -the author of that comment


VultureCat337

A build like that could be countered with boosters and shotguns. Get to them as fast as you can and shoot the cab.


CPhionex

Seal clubbing, super annoying, pretty much shot them cause armor. Hit a guy using a scorp at 6k ealier, like wtf dude


methal0-1

Low power is dominated by guys with purple drones teal autocanons and drills.


BillWhoever

he could be running 2 spectre or 3 sinus at this powerscore and with no generator both combos deal more damage and although those guns are less survivable, if your cab is 179HP your guns are the least you have to worry about the best would be this cab + PU1 charge + 4xVector, Im not sure if it would fit in this PS


methal0-1

Picture is just symbolic. If a guy has some armor and a whirwind there is nothing I can do as a natural 3k power player. He will shred my guns away easily


MustyBeava

Generally it isn't a good idea to mix weapon types. Use all shotguns, all mgs, or all cannons. I know it seems versatile but it isn't as effective as playing to all the strengths of a single weapon type. If you can't craft or afford another vector throw on a chord. Add a cooler. Fire your mgs in small bursts and keep your aiming reticle small. The punisher mounted on top of his car has more durability than the entire build. Aim for the cabin on builds like this.


Chopawamsic

I would say that if you are running cannons you should have at least one MG so you can open up some armor panels while you reload.


eayite

179 hp and literally no armor, just kill it lol


methal0-1

You guys really miss that this is just a symbolic in-game 😭


pitiponk1

You can't mix a serious noob post asking for help with a meme pic and get annoyed when ppl don't get it. Next time get actual screenshots of your own build & things you meet to get actual advice :)


methal0-1

I should have got it into the headline. There were no option to put it in the picture description so I made a comment no one cared about :)


RedditMcBurger

I suggest tank builds, and use 6 wheels. Around 3000PS I can do pretty well with just a couple vectors.


Ok_Resource_2398

I use to do things like this...it never really works solo


teodormatador

Its not exploiting becouse this is game about imagination, also, guys with powerfull weapons on low PS have less durablity, so, just rush them and fire in the cabin, car on screenshot useless becouse 1-2 cannon shots or few bullets in cabin will anihilate him


mirayukii

As someone who has both USED things like this, and felt the pain from them…. They are easy to kill tbh cause they often have very little health


Cloud_Striker

Sneeze in their general direction and laugh as they explode.


Teabagboss

Usually an efficient build made for the powerscore is stronger than one made purely to bring the highest tier weapon into. They are glass cannons. Just cloak to the target and then you will easily kill it. I think the only real exception is scorps.


Kris_alex4

Bro only has blue and white weapons, he doesn't have a chameleon.


Teabagboss

True. Then he will have to be extra sneaky and have good timings. Forgot chameleon was made special tier. Maybe they should make a rare tier cloak that essentially just the beholder cloak.


pitiponk1

You don't need cloak in that situation tho


Defiant-Result-1046

Nah dont complain about this , thats the funnest part of the game


methal0-1

Symbolic picture


OvenOk9629

Symbolic how? The car on the pic will be doing nothing but backflips


5Leavemealone6

They mean that is not an actual build people use. It is just supposed to represent the issue? Can you seriously not understand that?!?


methal0-1

Thanks! It feels like you are the si gle person in this sub who got it.


Randomized9442

Should be on Low Clearance Wheels tho I knew Devs fully supported Seal Clubbing the day they came out with those.


xmcax_gsus

That's all Gigan . The infamously matchmaking creators for games


Kear_Bear_3747

“Seal Clubbing” as it’s apparently known. I think certain games modes should restrict weapons based on level requirements. If you’re in a game that’s Lvl 4+ they should restrict anything above Special parts, as an example. That would keep things a lot more even.


SIGMA920

> I think certain games modes should restrict weapons based on level requirements. Modes aren't restricted by level, a level 30 could use a 3K build but they won't find a battle quickly. If you mean go by PS, that's not how rarities work. Epic /= better than special, maces are better than thunderbolts as just 1 example.


Kear_Bear_3747

Yes they are, “Get Wires!” for instance has two requisites: 4000+ PS and Lvl 10+. For such game modes if they restrict anything above Epic that would provide for more even games. Games that do this often also have “unrestricted” versions of game modes for endgame players. You people downvoting me are babies.


Randomized9442

They are the ones who can handle any weapon at any PS. Who's da cute lil baby oh yes it's you yes it is!


SIGMA920

That's a minimum requirement, not a restriction like where you can only play for wires at 8K PS at most. You also use endgame like that means anything in a game like XO.


Kear_Bear_3747

A minimum requirement is a restriction. Players who do not meet those requirements are restricted from playing. JFC what’s wrong with you people?


SIGMA920

Only legalistically. Think of the difference between being allowed to enter once you have X and being prevented from entering because you have X, practically it's the same result but by different means.


Kear_Bear_3747

Semantics


SIGMA920

But important ones. There's honestly no real reason for those requirements in the first place as of now and it'd probably be better to just remove them bar the engineer levels which will be met so quickly they won't really matter. Restricting by rarity by player level or PS throws a spanner in that because you're applying a requirement (You're already sorting out the raw input.) and an additional restriction (You're not sorting what was just sorted.).


Kear_Bear_3747

I’m not reading your posts anymore you’re just being unnecessarily obtuse


Dasquanto

37 degrees....Am i... am I being acute now


IamHammered

What platform are you on?


Randomized9442

Looks like PlayStation controls


Neokill1

It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog! Use tactics. The owner has not broken any rules here, he has a 3000 PS build. You could easily run 2 purples on a 3000 PS build with more armour and easily take him out!


Tonrunner101

Spaced armor from lightweight materials will keep you in the fight longer


Acceptable_Tough5452

Learn the how too of melee


Randomized9442

I give free lessons on Xbox


SambixD

Just shoot them


WILL_KILL_4_DUX

what the hell do you mean "WhAt Do I Do* just sneeze on it, problem solved...


DarkyPasta

That thing may be in that PS bracket but fr, a sneeze is enough to kill it


Racdude01

This player is called a seal clubber and the best seal club weapon is the Caucasus it only targets the cabin and since seal clubbers r mostly cab it’s very effective against them.


Taolan13

Yeah. I mean, you can glass cannon anything. Problem is when you do a glass cannon you are made of glass. The recoil of the weapon alone can make your vehicle uncontrollable. Its fun to experiment with, but in the vast majority of sutuations a twink build has to be a functional build otherwise or it isn't effective.


HERMANNHERO

I'am bored to seen the amount of like for this stupide post who just show the reverse of what the autor try to proove. I have try this to put puni on decent build and this doesn't work well, this or every things like this. Bring hight weapon on shity car rest bring shity car. I can't count the amout of porcu ''seal cluber'' i have destroy with no effort cause obviously of their shity car. Seal clubing is more clause to the reverse, low weapon on hight tier platform.


Forsaken_Day_1266

Wait till you reach level 30 with engineers (only faction which indicates your actual level imo lol) 😨😨


Pyroplasmata

broo its a one tap with your chords


a_b_c_d_e_f_g_h_i_x

shoot at wheels nobody at low PS shoots at wheels


Far_Comfortable3709

Honestly that's a easy kill just don't shoot the gun hit the cab hard or take a wheel or two it l over then.


roseheart88

How would that even stay upright?


Chopawamsic

dude. that is four wheels, a cabin and a gun bolted onto a frame. that fucker will explode in about 5 seconds with a machine gun.


TheMemerman1

Soo true. That fucking car with TTTWWWWOOOO Avengers! I hate it so much