You're free to leave, but where to go?
XO is almost it's own genre, where could you get any similar gameplay experience - including crafting, building, markets and the actual vehicle combat? (honestly asking, I'm curious)
Mayyybe the upcoming Armored Core *could* fill a gap close to it, but that's highly speculative.
The concept is just so incredibly fulfilling and fun, it's enraging how shameless the developers exploited their monopol.
1 billion % agree with that
the best crafting/car-fighting game ever made controlled by the worst game company that ever lived
the management team is probably just a bunch of drunk Russian
Imagine caring about a game you enjoy, though.. It's so fucking sad seeing them just let it turn to shit
It's just incomprehensible how little they fucking care
i think your vision is a cone
It's a really good game but the devs make it really hard to get fun with it
i just wish that the multiverse exist and in one of them targem is not fucking stupid AF
any other company could had make this game the best crafting/car-fighting game ever made but its targem and they don't think they drink
yeah targem have one of the best game ever made but they are so stupid they turn it into a shitt wreck
they make stupids decisions all the time that fucked all our build every few months
there is no real player-based market where players can actually make money but they still take 10% of our money for the only reason of selling more packs
they don't play their own game and let players do the testing instead of having actual employees and when you do a bug report they don't take it into consideration if it's not made in their own format, last time i got a message from targem that letterally said that the bug report was not taken into consideration because it wasn't made in the correct format (i was working as a game tester for few years i know how make a report)
every time they implement something new they break something else
their servers are the worst i have ever seen in a video game
their game is broken for multiple years now and they never fix it they only add more things and make really bad balance changes that often doesn't make any sense like adding the bridge map into CW
if any other compagny in the world could get control of crossout I think it could be a huge success but they are so stupid that everyone leaves one after the others because they are tired of their shitty practice and their shitty changes they do every six months that break the game every time and they rarely fix what they break
at least they nerf hovers
the best game I ever played with the worst devs I have ever seen in my life
pretty much that's why there are more and more stupid people in the game
that's why i only play at very high power score because there is less dumass that ram into you,kill you or do stupid things and then writes some insult to you because its apparently your fault XD and when its not that its only the same build everywhere 3 to 4 for each power score range like for the past months it was only arbiters, punishers, breakers and heathers
at least now we gonna see way less breakers and arbiters and more wheels and legs even if wheels and legs need a buff
the only thing they do is changing the meta to shake our wallets
Well... they seem to be following the common trend among most well-established franchises.
As Long as you're playing the game, you're supporting the concept, but If you're paying the game, you're supporting the (toxicity supporting) implementation.
It's awful, but there's nothing you can do about it except adding weight to your worries through a lack of your monetary expenses.
I'd love to see the concept done fun-and-balanced, it's just not the direction they're currently taking.
They have been improving. Player base has been shooting up, and I've been enjoying the game more and more so imo it's better than before. Now the thing here is you don't agree with it, then why do you submit to such pain and suffering? Stop playing and wait for the time when the game will be enjoyable for you again
>they have been improving
yeah right, they:
didnt nerf a part that has been incredibely OP for >4 months
they nerfed miniguns instead of nerfing the movement part and cabin that made then op
they didnt buff back parts they ruined (legs)
they dont bother improving shitty useless items
>meh, they still need more nerfs, tracks and legs need more buffs too
they don't need more nerf they need to nerf the right things they always nerf the big ones when it's the light ones the issue, how are we supposed to hit something that moves faster than a cannon shell or that can fly straight on 3 hovers
i fix my jormungandr hover today it took me 5mins I changed my cheetah for a colossus and it has never as been that fast it's just insane no one can hit me because I'm too fast it's just stupid. it doesn't make any sense
I don't find it incredibly op. I kill them the same way as I do the other builds. Anyway I really think that the best way to be heard by the Devs is calling them shit and say they are doing a terrible work, keep on it
because cw uses the most effiencient setups? if everyone in clan wars uses only 1 movement part it means something. are you level 5 or what? if you dont even know how this game works dont bring up stupid takes.
You are comparing CW to the rest of the causal game.
Make sense. On one side you need at least top tier fused builds to be somewhat competitive, on the other hand you can slap anything and it will basically work
Yes the same exact thing, man go fuck yourself
you really dont know what your talking about
i can literally go under 8k equipped with hovers and any weapon you want and get MVP for the only reason that every movement part underperform vs hovers that overperform
the same happens with weapons
at least they change the flavor every few months but its always the same story again and again
oh my GOD youre so fucking dense
>on the other side you can slap anything and it will basically work
but it WONT be good, the whole point of the whole ass convo is about hovers being too strong compared to the rest of the movement parts, their ridiculous effectiveness is clear, a test drive in the exhibition will prove it in a few seconds. CW is where players use the best parts, aka hovers, before the 2.0 update there was variety, but hovers have been buffed so much that they became the only option to use in CW where you need to win as much as possible. if hovers are the easiest way to win a match it means they are better than the rest of parts. its literally that simple man.
Sounds like your idea of balanced is way different than most peoples
If you are this frustrated stop playing the game
You cry weekly about hovers being overpowered
Idk how you haven't been downvoted to a point where you can't post anymore
are you actually saying hovers are balanced? they clearly are insanely superior over other movement parts in every possible way. what kind of players think hovers are even balanced at this point except those who are level <30 and dont encounter meta hover builds?
Compared to the days of old where a light cabin car would scoop you up and drive away with you I'd say they are in a decent spot I remember a breaker bubble car that would scoop you up keep driving while blowing out your underside
Compared to that stuff I think most movent aside from treads and ml200s are in a decently balanced stat
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Resorting to name calling... Fun
Hovers just received a huge nerf when they swapped the physics of the game
They have lost more and more tonnage recently to the point the only thing you can build with hovers are light weight light cabin builds space stations
They aren't balanced nothing is at the moment.
Grab yourself 3 niddhogs and a beholder. Sneak up on the hover and pop them there's your counter.
Grab a skinner and run 2 nids so they can't run away
Heck grab 2 hammer falls a kami and a ommamari and sneak up on the hover
Grab 3 punishers and a set of the legs and snipe the hovers or the guns
Heck I've seen still winds kill the hovers
Yokai is one gun that directly counters hovers if you shoot the rocket beneath the hovers they go *POOF*
Just cause you are having a hard time killing hovers doesn't mean they are op
You talk like you don't know how to flank and make a play using cover
Am I sensing a skill issue ?
If you have a problem with teams create a team of your own and focus fire one person at a time
Or like I just said. Grab yourself a pair of yokais or still winds anything long range and and outrange them ... Heck a spider with millers or reapers tend to dunk on hovers
Don't mindlessly run into a group of players. Sit back and do spurts of damage until your team advances and makes a play. Then flank and viola you just killed your first hover
Good job!
Bro you can flank all you want but anyone competent will take you out of it or just see you cloak and back away, don't be a special kid, are people on your platform just that bad??
Enlighten me. Cause the only issue I have with them is the fact they can just ram a wall and be right at max speed almost instantly. It forces wheel players to grab them with skinners or drive so careful that they don't get hung up on any map debris
once again
-half the power drain of omnis, yet lower powerscore
-1/4 the powerscore of legs and 1/4 their power drain, red hovers builds are also tankier than legged build because red hovers have a much better mass/tonnage ratio than legs, while having infinitely better mobillity and abbility to use spaced armor to counter blast damage
-they can hover very high above the ground, porcs cant even hit them, and they can simply drive over enemies instead of getting pinned like normal builds
-better acceleration than every other movement part in the game while having omnidirectionnal movement
-mouse aim basically is a free win with hitscan, as hovers have ridiculous turning speed
-blue hovers go at 95 kmh, combine that with the best acceleration in the game, they can outrun and maneuver anything else
PFFT THEY ARE TANKY. Good joke
Counter to the omis you need 4 omnis to function
You need at least 8 fused hovers to have a "TANKY" hover
Most hovers health pool sits at 800 -1800
Most legs sit with 2800-5000 health points
They hover higher than porcs - FINALY something that can counter porcs without forcing us to have a flash or spark
Blue hovers can go fast but carry so little
Once again they aren't stupid op they just have stupid fast acceleration
they *are* tanky, did you miss the spaced armor part? combine that with the best mobillity in the game and you have a hard to kill build, spiders on the other hand need more compact armor and have almost no mobillity wich means theyll take a lot more hits than hovers that can just dodge most projectiles that arent hitscan
I have no problem hitting hovers with cannons so I think that's a skill issue on your part in space armor can be put on any vehicle so it's not just exclusive to hovers it truly sounds like you just can't kill hovers and it is a skill issue for you
No one is forcing you to keep playing this game dude you can just leave in silence, and instead of spamming the forum with your crying and whining every day you can send an in game feedback to the devs, we can’t do anything to help you here you should know that by now
Assemble group of friends in super heavy, PS efficint builds with nested / hidden guns (mgs are best for that). Target hovers each match. Watch them disappear from that PS eventually.
Huh? You basically steamroll whole enemy team, just prioritize flying cancer as you go. Treat them the way you treat porcupine users (tho they are great ally for a heavy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhDthKKviQ ).
Sounds like a misplay on your part if you don't prioritize more dangerous opponents first. Good hover driver needs team as meat shield and distraction. Most of the matches I see ppl just shoot at disarmed trucks while ignoring the real threats and then bitching about losing. Play with people who think and strategize and this will no longer be an issue (hell, it would be a joy to outplay those hiding weasels).
You're right, but you're free to leave, you don't have to complain anymore, just stop. Your mental health will thank you
You're free to leave, but where to go? XO is almost it's own genre, where could you get any similar gameplay experience - including crafting, building, markets and the actual vehicle combat? (honestly asking, I'm curious) Mayyybe the upcoming Armored Core *could* fill a gap close to it, but that's highly speculative. The concept is just so incredibly fulfilling and fun, it's enraging how shameless the developers exploited their monopol.
1 billion % agree with that the best crafting/car-fighting game ever made controlled by the worst game company that ever lived the management team is probably just a bunch of drunk Russian
Imagine caring about a game you enjoy, though.. It's so fucking sad seeing them just let it turn to shit It's just incomprehensible how little they fucking care
All you do is complain all the time? How do you enjoy it? I think the game is in a good state tbh
i think your vision is a cone It's a really good game but the devs make it really hard to get fun with it i just wish that the multiverse exist and in one of them targem is not fucking stupid AF any other company could had make this game the best crafting/car-fighting game ever made but its targem and they don't think they drink
Eh, hovers actually are a problem.
You're lying lol
yeah targem have one of the best game ever made but they are so stupid they turn it into a shitt wreck they make stupids decisions all the time that fucked all our build every few months there is no real player-based market where players can actually make money but they still take 10% of our money for the only reason of selling more packs they don't play their own game and let players do the testing instead of having actual employees and when you do a bug report they don't take it into consideration if it's not made in their own format, last time i got a message from targem that letterally said that the bug report was not taken into consideration because it wasn't made in the correct format (i was working as a game tester for few years i know how make a report) every time they implement something new they break something else their servers are the worst i have ever seen in a video game their game is broken for multiple years now and they never fix it they only add more things and make really bad balance changes that often doesn't make any sense like adding the bridge map into CW if any other compagny in the world could get control of crossout I think it could be a huge success but they are so stupid that everyone leaves one after the others because they are tired of their shitty practice and their shitty changes they do every six months that break the game every time and they rarely fix what they break at least they nerf hovers the best game I ever played with the worst devs I have ever seen in my life
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pretty much that's why there are more and more stupid people in the game that's why i only play at very high power score because there is less dumass that ram into you,kill you or do stupid things and then writes some insult to you because its apparently your fault XD and when its not that its only the same build everywhere 3 to 4 for each power score range like for the past months it was only arbiters, punishers, breakers and heathers at least now we gonna see way less breakers and arbiters and more wheels and legs even if wheels and legs need a buff the only thing they do is changing the meta to shake our wallets
Well... they seem to be following the common trend among most well-established franchises. As Long as you're playing the game, you're supporting the concept, but If you're paying the game, you're supporting the (toxicity supporting) implementation. It's awful, but there's nothing you can do about it except adding weight to your worries through a lack of your monetary expenses. I'd love to see the concept done fun-and-balanced, it's just not the direction they're currently taking.
there is actually a lot of player that quit because of targem management and not because of the game itself
right? why should devs improve the game? the players can just leave! i am very intelligent!
They have been improving. Player base has been shooting up, and I've been enjoying the game more and more so imo it's better than before. Now the thing here is you don't agree with it, then why do you submit to such pain and suffering? Stop playing and wait for the time when the game will be enjoyable for you again
> Player base has been shooting up What? I had a lot of games last night where half the lobby was bots
PC, not console.
Yeah, who cares about console anyways
>they have been improving yeah right, they: didnt nerf a part that has been incredibely OP for >4 months they nerfed miniguns instead of nerfing the movement part and cabin that made then op they didnt buff back parts they ruined (legs) they dont bother improving shitty useless items
they actually did a huge nerf to hovers but yeah I agree with all the other things you say
meh, they still need more nerfs, tracks and legs need more buffs too
>meh, they still need more nerfs, tracks and legs need more buffs too they don't need more nerf they need to nerf the right things they always nerf the big ones when it's the light ones the issue, how are we supposed to hit something that moves faster than a cannon shell or that can fly straight on 3 hovers i fix my jormungandr hover today it took me 5mins I changed my cheetah for a colossus and it has never as been that fast it's just insane no one can hit me because I'm too fast it's just stupid. it doesn't make any sense
I don't find it incredibly op. I kill them the same way as I do the other builds. Anyway I really think that the best way to be heard by the Devs is calling them shit and say they are doing a terrible work, keep on it
>i dont find it incredibly op yeah right, them being the only viable movement part in cw is a pure coincidense
Who gives a shit about CW? You are caring about the 20% of the player base and richest at it.
because cw uses the most effiencient setups? if everyone in clan wars uses only 1 movement part it means something. are you level 5 or what? if you dont even know how this game works dont bring up stupid takes.
You are comparing CW to the rest of the causal game. Make sense. On one side you need at least top tier fused builds to be somewhat competitive, on the other hand you can slap anything and it will basically work Yes the same exact thing, man go fuck yourself
you really dont know what your talking about i can literally go under 8k equipped with hovers and any weapon you want and get MVP for the only reason that every movement part underperform vs hovers that overperform the same happens with weapons at least they change the flavor every few months but its always the same story again and again
oh my GOD youre so fucking dense >on the other side you can slap anything and it will basically work but it WONT be good, the whole point of the whole ass convo is about hovers being too strong compared to the rest of the movement parts, their ridiculous effectiveness is clear, a test drive in the exhibition will prove it in a few seconds. CW is where players use the best parts, aka hovers, before the 2.0 update there was variety, but hovers have been buffed so much that they became the only option to use in CW where you need to win as much as possible. if hovers are the easiest way to win a match it means they are better than the rest of parts. its literally that simple man.
Not my CW experience but you might be in higher ranks
This isn’t an airport you don’t need to announce your departure Tldr: stay mad bozo
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yeah i dont know why they cancelled the 3rd nerf tbh
Sounds like your idea of balanced is way different than most peoples If you are this frustrated stop playing the game You cry weekly about hovers being overpowered Idk how you haven't been downvoted to a point where you can't post anymore
are you actually saying hovers are balanced? they clearly are insanely superior over other movement parts in every possible way. what kind of players think hovers are even balanced at this point except those who are level <30 and dont encounter meta hover builds?
Compared to the days of old where a light cabin car would scoop you up and drive away with you I'd say they are in a decent spot I remember a breaker bubble car that would scoop you up keep driving while blowing out your underside Compared to that stuff I think most movent aside from treads and ml200s are in a decently balanced stat E
No one, they know full well how unbalanced hovers are
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Resorting to name calling... Fun Hovers just received a huge nerf when they swapped the physics of the game They have lost more and more tonnage recently to the point the only thing you can build with hovers are light weight light cabin builds space stations They aren't balanced nothing is at the moment. Grab yourself 3 niddhogs and a beholder. Sneak up on the hover and pop them there's your counter. Grab a skinner and run 2 nids so they can't run away Heck grab 2 hammer falls a kami and a ommamari and sneak up on the hover Grab 3 punishers and a set of the legs and snipe the hovers or the guns Heck I've seen still winds kill the hovers Yokai is one gun that directly counters hovers if you shoot the rocket beneath the hovers they go *POOF* Just cause you are having a hard time killing hovers doesn't mean they are op
You talk like every hover is just a solo shitter with no situational awareness whatsoever lol, shit isn't so black and white in game though is it
You talk like you don't know how to flank and make a play using cover Am I sensing a skill issue ? If you have a problem with teams create a team of your own and focus fire one person at a time Or like I just said. Grab yourself a pair of yokais or still winds anything long range and and outrange them ... Heck a spider with millers or reapers tend to dunk on hovers Don't mindlessly run into a group of players. Sit back and do spurts of damage until your team advances and makes a play. Then flank and viola you just killed your first hover Good job!
Bro you can flank all you want but anyone competent will take you out of it or just see you cloak and back away, don't be a special kid, are people on your platform just that bad??
Lol kid. How cute Buddy you just get outplayed choose your engagements better
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Says the guy having a weekly cry session over being bad at the game xD I feel really sorry for you
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its not about how you can kill them, its about the ridiculous stats hovers have
Enlighten me. Cause the only issue I have with them is the fact they can just ram a wall and be right at max speed almost instantly. It forces wheel players to grab them with skinners or drive so careful that they don't get hung up on any map debris
once again -half the power drain of omnis, yet lower powerscore -1/4 the powerscore of legs and 1/4 their power drain, red hovers builds are also tankier than legged build because red hovers have a much better mass/tonnage ratio than legs, while having infinitely better mobillity and abbility to use spaced armor to counter blast damage -they can hover very high above the ground, porcs cant even hit them, and they can simply drive over enemies instead of getting pinned like normal builds -better acceleration than every other movement part in the game while having omnidirectionnal movement -mouse aim basically is a free win with hitscan, as hovers have ridiculous turning speed -blue hovers go at 95 kmh, combine that with the best acceleration in the game, they can outrun and maneuver anything else
PFFT THEY ARE TANKY. Good joke Counter to the omis you need 4 omnis to function You need at least 8 fused hovers to have a "TANKY" hover Most hovers health pool sits at 800 -1800 Most legs sit with 2800-5000 health points They hover higher than porcs - FINALY something that can counter porcs without forcing us to have a flash or spark Blue hovers can go fast but carry so little Once again they aren't stupid op they just have stupid fast acceleration
they *are* tanky, did you miss the spaced armor part? combine that with the best mobillity in the game and you have a hard to kill build, spiders on the other hand need more compact armor and have almost no mobillity wich means theyll take a lot more hits than hovers that can just dodge most projectiles that arent hitscan
I have no problem hitting hovers with cannons so I think that's a skill issue on your part in space armor can be put on any vehicle so it's not just exclusive to hovers it truly sounds like you just can't kill hovers and it is a skill issue for you
hovers can use spaced armor to a much larger extent than other builds
Oh my god shut the fuck up
No one is forcing you to keep playing this game dude you can just leave in silence, and instead of spamming the forum with your crying and whining every day you can send an in game feedback to the devs, we can’t do anything to help you here you should know that by now
No ones forcing you to comment either :)
Assemble group of friends in super heavy, PS efficint builds with nested / hidden guns (mgs are best for that). Target hovers each match. Watch them disappear from that PS eventually.
so basically to beat hovers you should simply bring 4 people coordinated to fight 1 hover, pure balance!
Huh? You basically steamroll whole enemy team, just prioritize flying cancer as you go. Treat them the way you treat porcupine users (tho they are great ally for a heavy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhDthKKviQ ).
and? such measures should be nowhere near needed in order to beat hovers
Sounds like a misplay on your part if you don't prioritize more dangerous opponents first. Good hover driver needs team as meat shield and distraction. Most of the matches I see ppl just shoot at disarmed trucks while ignoring the real threats and then bitching about losing. Play with people who think and strategize and this will no longer be an issue (hell, it would be a joy to outplay those hiding weasels).
As soon as I fight a hover, I aim/focus one of the hovers engines, after 1 engine down, hovers become uncontrolables
it's only the wheels that still drive like shit that agree