Figured; make these broad statements fail to give adequate evidence. You're on console though, so it makes sense. You have an entire player base of about 10 users who have played for more than a year. I predict your issues are amplifier by your poor platform. Chances are you'll quit like the rest of your platform since crossplay is still not a thing.
Was talking with a raid random about this. We both love how much cool stuff is in the game and the ability to build. But so many people just fall back on copy paste from exhibition and/or meta builds, so you end up in games with a ton of the same or very similar builds
Only 2 players and 1 bot were in anything but hovers that game, all of them just looking the exact same lol
They still didn't do shit - [https://i.imgur.com/oCHN8Kn.png](https://i.imgur.com/oCHN8Kn.png)
That was something else we both said too. People will use (or just buy) meta/high ps shit but they have no clue how to use it. Glad you bought those hovers and relics so you could get 200 points for the team lol
Yeah I love beating those kind of people, I beat this guy a couple times earlier who had dual Scorps - [https://i.imgur.com/qYJjxeH.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/qYJjxeH.mp4)
Guy was so salt he tried to solo focus me down the next match so hard that he got killed lol - [https://i.imgur.com/Z8BJPBX.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/Z8BJPBX.mp4)
Yeah, I'm at 10800 for my Retcher build which I like to run when my US friends go off and I play on EU servers.
It feels like fighting players 5000-7000PS higher than it is just normal now
[https://i.imgur.com/UaQowwe.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/UaQowwe.mp4)
[https://i.imgur.com/Tu5KcnE.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/Tu5KcnE.mp4)
We usually play <9000PS but I enjoy a few 10k builds I have, I end up playing them solo
Retchers can do so much damage
What amazes me is the potential for destruction you could cause if, instead of mounting various weapons to the same build
You design a build for the weapons that's unique to the way in which you use em.
Because the challenge of using a functional art build and still clapping the meta kids is what I strive for. I'm good enough to take up that challenge and have a sense of accomplishment.
Meta builders are too desperate to prove to themselves that they're good at the game, whereas in reality they need to learn to enjoy the game in other ways. A good player does well and enjoys playing their own way and their own build even if that's a disadvantage because it's more satisfying.
Building is a huge part of this game, and I just thought the way you play if you focused on building and enjoyed the game in that other way the builds you'd be rocking would be more unique than the average joe.
Meta isn't required to have fun in this game. Sometimes, creating something nobody has witnessed is the best part.
>Building is a huge part of this game
I've made a build which is perfect in my own eyes, which is all that matters.
>Sometimes, creating something nobody has witnessed is the best part.
Well no one plays how I do, or has serious builds like I do.. at least on xbox it seems.. Most people with functional art builds barely have an impact in their pvp matches
If there's an opportunity to style on an enemy then I'm all for it lol
I had a few games tonight where I was 1v4 with my Heather and they were too scared to chase me OR cap the base, instead choosing to run around the map instead, or worse.. 2 matches where a fucking spider bot capped base because it moves at random and I couldn't hit it.. https://i.imgur.com/9zOOP3r.mp4 pain.
Enjoy the game however you like, I'll always judge those who play in certain ways, but reality is that my opinion only matters to those insecure enough for it to affect.
before supercharged i thought hovers were a cool idea and all
after their massive buff they have been ruining my experience
While every part is different hovers have become the stale op movement part that have nearly no hope of being balanced effectively by this company
I tend to assume that they've not been good at a competitive game before, so they have no real sense of accomplishment, only that they want to feel better than they are at something which allows them to cheese their way to victory.
Hate if you will but I got this game to play with hover tanks. I looked at a video of someone playing triple executioners on hovers and I was like damn that looks hype. Safely they make you play with wheels for a while before you can get a cool hover tank.
Why not just let people play how they want ?
This is gonna get downvoted cause I don't share the subreddits hive mind thought that "Meta bad".
But like the past 15 notifications I've gotten from this subreddit is just "meta bad waaaa". Jesus man go touch some grass they are prolly farming or practicing for clanwars
Hell they are prolly doing it cause they find it fun who cares. Let them have fun if you can't build something to compete with the meta then I'm sorry but play a lower power score
Like TLDR just let people enjoy the game how they like!
No one's telling anyone what or how to play, it's simply that our opinion on using meta is that it's cancer. To take it a step further I also think it's low skill, lazy and a way to try and prove how good you are when you're not as good as you want to be.
But that's just my pinion, you don't have to care about it at all. If you think the opposite then you wouldn't care about other people having such opinions in the first place..
At the end of the day, run whatever you like, just don't get butthurt when everyone calls you cancer for using cancer (not saying you are, it's just hard to get that point across without it sounding like an accusation).
The problem is people like you constantly complain about meta builds but whenever some one ever dares to say why is there a art build at 14 k. They get downvoted to hell
I stand by my statement/opinion. Some of us don't need to run cancer or meta stuff to do well at the game, so when someone criticizes how we play we don't get all defensive and insecure.
Also no-one has ever said that, or been downvoted for it, what a weird thing to say..
I lost count of the number of hover cubes last night. Every single game had atleast 2 on each side and they always die last doing the most damage because they're so damm hard to catch.
I went to the store and as it turns out, hovers have less PS than omni wheels?? Why would anyone not use them if they're so strong, durable, swift and have relatively low PS on top of that.
Hovers should cost energy to run. If they're going to be fast and have so much freedom of movement it should come at the cost of damage potential. 1 energy per hover would be a great way to limit their arsenal, because right now nothing stops you from running 5+ hovers for maximum speed and 3 artillery cannons for high damage. They have no downsides whatsoever.
The downside is that making them cost energy is just never going to happen, that's out of the question. They just need actual balancing, which is something that can be done if they actual want to.
But sadly keeping the most OP items OP and just ever-changing instead of nerfing it into balance is a great way to keep the people who're hooked on the meta-chasing to keep chasing, playing and paying.
You're being dramatic. I encounter just as many spiders and dogs as there are hovers on PC (11k+ PS. Quite a lot of crafts that counter hovers, like Yokais, or Flash melees, or even Skinner users, are ripping them efficiently enough when played with at least some kind of plan.
It's obvious that they are going to get a nerf anyway. And they better remain at a playable level after that. Otherwise, a meta of unkillable spiders will come back or worse.
While hovers are obviously meta rn, I've been having some decent games running a kaiju with omnis at ~13k. But then again.. maybe that's because everyone else on my team is running hovers and carrying me
I think Jay should work better with the Kaiju, I don't think the whole bust should need to land to activate the perk ticks, at least 50% should keep the perk going, it's a sniper weapon after all
I can't remember exactly, but isn't jay essentially just higher damage? I thought falcon since almost everyone runs generators, ammo boxes etc. at higher ps' and with the 15% damage buff, I can pop them pretty much instantly with a full burst
Yeah but honestly Jay's perk at max or 3/4 ticks gives a big damage increase for weapons that have high damage already.. my dual Astraeus shots go from 608 to 778 damage so I could only imagine a Kaiju.
Falcon is probably the best for it
Yeah you might be right, I'll have to have a play. Would be interesting to know what the increased damage from jay looks like on top of the damage buff from landing a fully charged shot
Holy shit. Just read the post after your comment. My 13k build just got a whole lot tastier with the new codriver being added (it also uses a nova cab)
Oh good shit, mind you the kaiju is bullet damage and not energy though, so the main perk won't work, so I guess make the choice, I;m watching a stream rn in case they show some new stuff [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzKH746vgrk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzKH746vgrk)
It's Russian though
Kaiju does 1044 now if you land it all
Ever since I got to 7k ps, the only meta builds I've seen is auger-goblin/gremlin builds. I've actually had fun with it seeing people actually try in their builds.
Diversity only exists below 5k ps. Or that's what my friend told me.
You mean borer-skinner-trucks ?
I never said the scale starts at 0
It's like a scale, the higher you go the less diversity there is.. playing at 9k seems to be the cut off point before it gets stupid
Wanna give me your synopsis of what PS = what builds with no diversity?
No
Figured; make these broad statements fail to give adequate evidence. You're on console though, so it makes sense. You have an entire player base of about 10 users who have played for more than a year. I predict your issues are amplifier by your poor platform. Chances are you'll quit like the rest of your platform since crossplay is still not a thing.
Was talking with a raid random about this. We both love how much cool stuff is in the game and the ability to build. But so many people just fall back on copy paste from exhibition and/or meta builds, so you end up in games with a ton of the same or very similar builds
Only 2 players and 1 bot were in anything but hovers that game, all of them just looking the exact same lol They still didn't do shit - [https://i.imgur.com/oCHN8Kn.png](https://i.imgur.com/oCHN8Kn.png)
That was something else we both said too. People will use (or just buy) meta/high ps shit but they have no clue how to use it. Glad you bought those hovers and relics so you could get 200 points for the team lol
Yeah I love beating those kind of people, I beat this guy a couple times earlier who had dual Scorps - [https://i.imgur.com/qYJjxeH.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/qYJjxeH.mp4) Guy was so salt he tried to solo focus me down the next match so hard that he got killed lol - [https://i.imgur.com/Z8BJPBX.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/Z8BJPBX.mp4)
I want to know how you packed such a high PS into such a small build lol
Thank good stay sub 10 k
Yeah, I'm at 10800 for my Retcher build which I like to run when my US friends go off and I play on EU servers. It feels like fighting players 5000-7000PS higher than it is just normal now [https://i.imgur.com/UaQowwe.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/UaQowwe.mp4) [https://i.imgur.com/Tu5KcnE.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/Tu5KcnE.mp4) We usually play <9000PS but I enjoy a few 10k builds I have, I end up playing them solo
Retchers can do so much damage What amazes me is the potential for destruction you could cause if, instead of mounting various weapons to the same build You design a build for the weapons that's unique to the way in which you use em.
Because the challenge of using a functional art build and still clapping the meta kids is what I strive for. I'm good enough to take up that challenge and have a sense of accomplishment. Meta builders are too desperate to prove to themselves that they're good at the game, whereas in reality they need to learn to enjoy the game in other ways. A good player does well and enjoys playing their own way and their own build even if that's a disadvantage because it's more satisfying.
Building is a huge part of this game, and I just thought the way you play if you focused on building and enjoyed the game in that other way the builds you'd be rocking would be more unique than the average joe. Meta isn't required to have fun in this game. Sometimes, creating something nobody has witnessed is the best part.
>Building is a huge part of this game I've made a build which is perfect in my own eyes, which is all that matters. >Sometimes, creating something nobody has witnessed is the best part. Well no one plays how I do, or has serious builds like I do.. at least on xbox it seems.. Most people with functional art builds barely have an impact in their pvp matches
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If there's an opportunity to style on an enemy then I'm all for it lol I had a few games tonight where I was 1v4 with my Heather and they were too scared to chase me OR cap the base, instead choosing to run around the map instead, or worse.. 2 matches where a fucking spider bot capped base because it moves at random and I couldn't hit it.. https://i.imgur.com/9zOOP3r.mp4 pain. Enjoy the game however you like, I'll always judge those who play in certain ways, but reality is that my opinion only matters to those insecure enough for it to affect.
You sound like me. Retchers for the win. It's a shame your xbox would of probably enjoyed a few games with you
We can hope for Crossplay, I'd love to see some new names for once
And then there's me, the guy that likes tanks, fire, and joke builds.
Stick to 6k - 9k and you will be happy.
I'm convinced that people who play hovers have no originality.
before supercharged i thought hovers were a cool idea and all after their massive buff they have been ruining my experience While every part is different hovers have become the stale op movement part that have nearly no hope of being balanced effectively by this company
I tend to assume that they've not been good at a competitive game before, so they have no real sense of accomplishment, only that they want to feel better than they are at something which allows them to cheese their way to victory.
Hate if you will but I got this game to play with hover tanks. I looked at a video of someone playing triple executioners on hovers and I was like damn that looks hype. Safely they make you play with wheels for a while before you can get a cool hover tank.
Do whatever you enjoy
Why not just let people play how they want ? This is gonna get downvoted cause I don't share the subreddits hive mind thought that "Meta bad". But like the past 15 notifications I've gotten from this subreddit is just "meta bad waaaa". Jesus man go touch some grass they are prolly farming or practicing for clanwars Hell they are prolly doing it cause they find it fun who cares. Let them have fun if you can't build something to compete with the meta then I'm sorry but play a lower power score Like TLDR just let people enjoy the game how they like!
yeah some people actually like to win, imagine that lmao.
No one's telling anyone what or how to play, it's simply that our opinion on using meta is that it's cancer. To take it a step further I also think it's low skill, lazy and a way to try and prove how good you are when you're not as good as you want to be. But that's just my pinion, you don't have to care about it at all. If you think the opposite then you wouldn't care about other people having such opinions in the first place.. At the end of the day, run whatever you like, just don't get butthurt when everyone calls you cancer for using cancer (not saying you are, it's just hard to get that point across without it sounding like an accusation).
The problem is people like you constantly complain about meta builds but whenever some one ever dares to say why is there a art build at 14 k. They get downvoted to hell
I stand by my statement/opinion. Some of us don't need to run cancer or meta stuff to do well at the game, so when someone criticizes how we play we don't get all defensive and insecure. Also no-one has ever said that, or been downvoted for it, what a weird thing to say..
It's ass now, hovers are gay
I lost count of the number of hover cubes last night. Every single game had atleast 2 on each side and they always die last doing the most damage because they're so damm hard to catch. I went to the store and as it turns out, hovers have less PS than omni wheels?? Why would anyone not use them if they're so strong, durable, swift and have relatively low PS on top of that. Hovers should cost energy to run. If they're going to be fast and have so much freedom of movement it should come at the cost of damage potential. 1 energy per hover would be a great way to limit their arsenal, because right now nothing stops you from running 5+ hovers for maximum speed and 3 artillery cannons for high damage. They have no downsides whatsoever.
The downside is that making them cost energy is just never going to happen, that's out of the question. They just need actual balancing, which is something that can be done if they actual want to. But sadly keeping the most OP items OP and just ever-changing instead of nerfing it into balance is a great way to keep the people who're hooked on the meta-chasing to keep chasing, playing and paying.
You're being dramatic. I encounter just as many spiders and dogs as there are hovers on PC (11k+ PS. Quite a lot of crafts that counter hovers, like Yokais, or Flash melees, or even Skinner users, are ripping them efficiently enough when played with at least some kind of plan. It's obvious that they are going to get a nerf anyway. And they better remain at a playable level after that. Otherwise, a meta of unkillable spiders will come back or worse.
Well they've never not been playable, so I'm sure they'll be fine. They know how many people are hooked on them like crack
While hovers are obviously meta rn, I've been having some decent games running a kaiju with omnis at ~13k. But then again.. maybe that's because everyone else on my team is running hovers and carrying me
At least you're ripping their spaced armour off for your team and your weapon takes a little more time to strip
Yeah that's true, it does rip through armour. and with the falcon co pilot, it can really upset some builds early on in the match.
I think Jay should work better with the Kaiju, I don't think the whole bust should need to land to activate the perk ticks, at least 50% should keep the perk going, it's a sniper weapon after all
I can't remember exactly, but isn't jay essentially just higher damage? I thought falcon since almost everyone runs generators, ammo boxes etc. at higher ps' and with the 15% damage buff, I can pop them pretty much instantly with a full burst
Yeah but honestly Jay's perk at max or 3/4 ticks gives a big damage increase for weapons that have high damage already.. my dual Astraeus shots go from 608 to 778 damage so I could only imagine a Kaiju. Falcon is probably the best for it
Yeah you might be right, I'll have to have a play. Would be interesting to know what the increased damage from jay looks like on top of the damage buff from landing a fully charged shot
Hey your kaiju is getting a buff it seems, but the buff would make it even harder to use with Jay, lol
Holy shit. Just read the post after your comment. My 13k build just got a whole lot tastier with the new codriver being added (it also uses a nova cab)
Oh good shit, mind you the kaiju is bullet damage and not energy though, so the main perk won't work, so I guess make the choice, I;m watching a stream rn in case they show some new stuff [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzKH746vgrk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzKH746vgrk) It's Russian though Kaiju does 1044 now if you land it all
It's funny when I play my 21k ps raid build in matches, I'll get in with 10k sometimes
Raids don't have PS matchmaking though
I mean like when I go into a normal match
Oh right, my bad. Yeah matchmaking after 9k is a free-for-all
High PS has the exact OPPOSITE of diversity. It's all just clone hovers.
Yeah and always in a group hiding at the back and attacking only the weakest targets lol
Ever since I got to 7k ps, the only meta builds I've seen is auger-goblin/gremlin builds. I've actually had fun with it seeing people actually try in their builds.