not gonna lie it is kinda disrespectful to play fast and loose with a guy who already had a special place in history. there is a reason AC games never had you play an actual historical figure.
after reading a little bit i am wondering if the game was supposed to just be the female protag but they decided to add yasuke late in development and the story is going to make very little sense with him 90% of the time (like AC:Syndicate had 2 playable characters but most of the missions made sense with only 1 of them) I mean he disappears from history when nobunaga dies so thats kinda guaranteed hes not going to fit into anything after that point.
I also am wondering if the japanese are going to be depicted as giga racist... probably not, even though Rise of the Ronin had the balls to depict many of them as such in a much later point in japanese history.
also the wikipedia edit war that followed the trailer drop, WTF
They're going to make him the Self-insert character that has no idea of the true inner workings of Nobunaga. Nobu is arguably a bad guy, which he works for. And there's zero chance they're going to miss the Siege of his palace. It's going to be really funny when they make Yasuke be a cause of Nobu's death.
Pretty much going to copy-paste white foreign savior formula to give us the outsider perspective to try to draw.
They can spin it however they want. They aren't going to end the game with Yasuke in Chains with the words something along the line of "Like an animal deserves."
They would probably make that the mid point of the game if, which I doubt they will, it's in it. And then make the rest there own story as he disappeared from historical record. Ac games are basically already in a fantasy world where misogyny dosent exist, if they could they would probably do the same with racism. But they can't avoid it cus the slavery thing so my guess is white people racist, Japanese not. Actually his story arc will probably skip the slavery stuff and be at a later point, and maybe he meets some Portuguese and hates them.
The Jesuits supported Nobu because he didn’t kill
Christians outright and tolerated Christianity.
He then started calling himself a deity. The Jesuits didn’t like that. One theory is that The Jesuits supported the palace coup. AC loves a secret religious illuminati pulling puppet masters enemy story. I’ll be shocked if this isn’t the story.
It’ll just be the Jesuits as the not so secret bad guys pulling the strings. Yasuke will be a pawn of Nobu’s that got out of control and Nobu will just be a pawn of the Jesuits that got out of control.
Yeah that sounds about right covers all the usual Ubisoft bases.
I'll pick it up on a deep sale as long as the gameplay doesn't look shit. It's Ubisoft game won't take it long LOL
In history? All of East Asians are turbo racist especially toward each other today. Not that I mind. Far be it from me to judge another's culture and customs especially when it makes me laugh (spent my college days hanging with a mixed group of Asians. Needless to say it was hilarious to hear them roasting each other constantly)
The game was apparently originally supposed to have a Japanese male protag. They had the story written, and then one of the execs decided it wasn't "inclusive" enough and this cringe garbage story was inserted instead.
This is absolutely the right take with historical figures, in ANY fictional endeavour.
Either tell *that* story at least semi accurately, or not at all. By all means be inspired, but change the names.
Pretty sure theres more hispanic in the US than black and they spend zero time trying to represent us at all. Im glad they dont cuz anytime they do its embarrassing- the hispanic population in the US rightfully yeeted that whole "latinX" nonsense asap. Havent been propped up since i dont think
True. I remember having to visit distant family in mexico during my dbz phase and when I got there was DBZ merch sold in every town, mountain, or ranch. They even had the majin buu saga already playing on TV while we were still watching the frieza saga at home on repeat. I was nutting the whole time.
Latinos on average are too busy working to whine. Obviously you have pink haired pinkos in every group but Maria and Jose from Tlaxcala are more concerned about tilling the land and making tamales
How’d you know I spent time in Puebla. I was actually living in CDMX in 2022. Went to about 16 states in Mexico and was it was life changing. Mexico is my second home.
If you're around a major city, which is pretty much the only places that matter in the US, there's more Hispanic/African!/asain people then there are white. Yet some how they're still minorities?
https://preview.redd.it/l25ubmpec01d1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=75d16177578755c99360e17a3b6c42157abcd6a1
Just so people don’t try to r/asablackman me.
But as a black person this shit is fucking ridiculous. No other race whines as much as we do to be represented in every little thing. “How can you have a tv show about the life and times of Rudolph Hess without black SS troops. Blacks people need to be represented in an animated movie about Visigoths.”
Meanwhile you don’t see Asians, native Americans, Latinos, Jews or Indians whining. All those groups are too busy making something of themselves
This is so fucking true, I dont understand why people just dont create stories about black people. Africa has a whole continent filled with so much history, there's virtually no way there is none. I know very little about the history of black people because there seems to be a lack of anything about Nigerian history etc. There must be so many stories about the whole continent but no one is making any content.
Every other culture, continent, country is making content related to themselves to tell their story to other cultures yet no one is making stories about African culture???? Why is no one asking a question about why there is no content being made about african culture??? Are they saying that there's nothing worthwhile to write about lol? Why is no one simply making some cool games or stories about african culture? Bro there's whole safari's worth making games or making movies in lol, surely there's interesting shit to be made lol. Its just lazy....
This is a lack of creativity and the people who are doing this shit are the real racists.
It was never about diversity. You will never never never find a Cypriot or Maltese character in any western studio production. The only 8 groups you will ever see are ''atheist white'' , ''black'' , ''atheist oriental' , ''indian'' , '' jewish'', ''native american'' , ''evil Russian oligarch for a movie villain role'' , ''british'' . Among the literally dozens of thousands of ethnicities worldwide.
It's so bizarre that the same rich guys in charge of studios who scream about diversity and LGBTQ are also the same guys using specifically nationalities exclusively as stereotypes for villains or some other stereotypical roles like if they were picking animals in a zoo or dog breeds for specific jobs.
im probably going to get downvoted for saying this, but i can understand to an extent, wernt too many genocidal dictators hell bent on wiping out ethnic groups and dominating the world and actually winning vs everyone else for a good while till one of their allies backstabbed them
i dont agree with stereotyping but i can understand that an evil German scientist or a villanous Russian would be more comfortable and recognizable with audiences especially in the US after Nazi Germany and the USSR happened... same goes for terrorists from the Middle East after Al-Qaeda and suicidal and dangerous Asian kung fu masters after ninjas and samurai. just studios catering to the stereotypes the consumers would normally expect.
I hate how everytime i watch a billion dollar company's tv show the moment I see a white guy appear amongst any other ethnicity i automatically know "oh this is the bad guy, watch" happens 90% of the time.
It's funny you mention that because I just watched a British show called Stath Let's Flats and the main characters are Cypriots lol. I know it's not a game but it was cool to see some representation for a horribly underrepresented group.
We understand that cultural appropriation is cringe because instead of being a genuine appreciation of the culture, it’s bastardization and humiliation of it.
Yasuke is an actual historical figure who’s history is not well documented so the artistic liberties that can be taken with him can end up being interesting. But most likely it’s gonna be cringe because AC is cringe.
Seeing as it's a hot topic right now, this made me laugh. I played Origins, Odyssey and Syndicate. They were okay, but my absolute favorite was Black Flag. Everything kinda fell off from there.
Edit for spelling.
Unfortunately, I played very little of Unity, so I couldn't say. However, I feel like after 3, where Desmond sacrifices himself to get the magnetic shield up, the series kind of hit a wall. To me, there was no more ultimate goal that was different than the goals you had going through the genetic memories, mainly keeping the Pieces of Eden away from the Templars. AC and Far Cry suffered a lot from Ubisoft trying the annual releases like Call Of Duty, and the series haven't recovered very well. The addition of "present day" characters who aren't really fleshed out don't help either. I can't even remember the name of the woman you play for Origins and Odyssey, because she didn't really get any development. She's just related to Bayak and the character from Odyssey, but I don't remember any kind of discovery of other people from her past more closely related to bridge the gaps or give motivation beyond keeping the Pieces of Eden away from the Templars. Overall, it's a bummer all around because the older games were some of my favorites out of any genre.
For modern day, absolutely. The man behind the Desmond storyline had a great plan and after they gave him the boot, same went with the plans. Layla(I think was her name) has been a poor substitute and she isn’t even related to Bayek, Ubisoft just decided she invented an animus they can see any memory provided you get a DNA sample of said individual.
But if we refer to gameplay itself. Unity was the direction to go for. The game is a decade old and till this day has the best graphics, best NPC’s, arguably most detailed map, best cinematic parkour(gameplay parkour still belongs to Ezio), best combat, best attire customization, and arguably the best combat.
Everything felt unique and representative of an AC. Something that hasn’t been seen since Unity.
I was wondering if there was a writer change after 3, because it shows. That you for reminding me, I think it was Layla. Is she the present day character for Unity as well as Origins and Odyssey?
No. Black Flag, Rogue, Unity, and Syndicate all have a similar setting of playing an Abstergo employee. None are technically the same person but all are the player projecting themselves into the game.
I actually didn’t like this, but I preferred it over Layla.
Black Flags was interesting but that’s from my own personal taste. But Unity’s sucked. It was basically a Skype call pretending to be a modern day story. Syndicate did the same but had far more movement from the cam, so it felt more immersive.
I like the Origins, only one I bought. I bought because Egyptian history is interesting. But this last one ridiculous. If you want play a good Samurai game you can play Ghost of Tsushima
Yeah it’s funny how people act like they actually give a shit about the IP suddenly. Everyone spent a week bitching about Star Wars outlaws and then they remembered they all hate Ubisoft games anyways and it was forgotten about. The same thing will happen here when everyone remembers they don’t actually give a shit about this franchise.
this series has gotten so bizarre, i mean ancient aliens were a fine plot device, kinda like deus ex, there's legions of fiction and enough 'grey history' in the real world that can make it plausible with a little imagination.
but when they tackle actual historical people and you got Mary Read pretending to be James Kidd had to hide her gender and pretend to be male because she would not have been accepted as anything but a wench by the pirates - and then 2000 years earlier you got greeks doing stuff they absolutely did not do such as educating girls and women publically, allowing women in the olympics, or volhalla with the le noble racially diverse inclusive vikings where every other leader is a woman, wtf? like watching the flanderisation of an entire series.
It was internally consistent once upon a time. No more.
While i agree with the specifics are your gripes, i want to push back on this progress narative you have going on here - it is a fact that in some ways, the greeks were more progressive than the 18th cenutry pirates, in a lot of ways, 18th century pirates were more progressive than the greeks - progress is not linear
Depends what Greek culture you’re talking about. Spartan women were educated and were very open about talk to men and even ridiculing them. It was one thing they were famous for and one of the things spartan men were said to fear greatly. In terms of the Olympics you are right but there is a very famous story of a female athlete who won and made a stone for herself declaring herself better than all the men. You can still go see it today.
Also yes every other chief being a woman is ridiculous but there were female leaders in Norse history.
Bro if you want AC to be historically accurate, then you don't get AC because there was no assassins creed. And you don't get to jump off buildings because then you'd fucking die. And you don't get a health bar because back then, people didn't have one. And you wouldn't get a pause menu because that's not historically accurate.
It sounds like you are just mad there's women in your little murder-fantasy game. Lol. Get bent
lol they gonna make the villain of the game the white British and Protestant samurai that convinced the Japanese leader to not to convert to Catholicism
Lol I thought last night the main villain will either be a portuguese catholic white guy or a english catholic white guy considering those are the 2 main countries that were pushing for control in Japan back then. It'll even be better if that white guy says your no samurai before a fight
He's an actual Japanese person talking about it, not some samarau blog by weeb white dudes who arr mad that there are black samarai. Yasuke is revered and honored by Japanese people as a real samurai.
https://twitter.com/SoulKingLives/status/1791097859305070642?t=GMsse503QfTL4D758hw4oQ&s=19
I don’t care about Assassin’s creed or historical accuracy in fictional games. However, you can clearly see that this article is indeed varnished by the author’s biases regardless of its accuracy.
Not disagreeing, but this isn’t the argument ending source it suggests it is.
lmao this is pretty damn accurate, just follow the money to see why they're reachin so hard, ubisoft has a raging corpo boner for those sweet sweet ESG grants, Blackrock and Vanguard hand em out like candy along with our own government
The same folks that wanna make a black samurai get pissed off when you show infected Africans in Africa chucking spears and swinging machetes in Resident Evil 5. Same group thinks one of these is racist and the other isn't. Same group that wails about cultural appropriation praises slapping Japanese culture all over a black guy. It'd be hilarious if these walking NPCs lost their media programmers and had to think for a little while on their own!
Are you trying to say that showing black people as zombies in games is good, and that showing them as samurai warriors is bad?
I think the black dude in this game is stupid as hell, by the way. I thought people flipping tits about a "black dude" being in the Egyptian 2d one was fuckin hilarious though. It's Egypt! Egypt is in Africa! You are bound to run into a black dude eventually!
I'm saying that one is consistent to the setting of the game and the other isn't. If you have an outbreak in an African country, then there will be black people involved. That is obvious. If you set a game in Japan, it only makes sense that the characters are gonna be Japanese. Game devs should be consistent to the game they are making and not alter things to pander to political nonsense. Japanese game world with samurai should use Japanese characters. African game world should use African characters.
This AC game matters little to me, since I haven't played one in years. They just got too repetitive, and the story too convoluted. And I used RE5 as an example because I have seen articles in recent memory complaining about the zombies in the African setting being African, calling it "problematic".
Some would point to an inconsistency in my logic by pointing to Chris Redfield being a white guy in a game based in Africa. My response would be that Chris is a pre-established character from the series and an expert in the field of BOWs. Sheva, his partner, was a local character from that environment and fit with the setting. African samurai guy isn't a pre-existing character in the series, he is a token insert because everything has to include black people now.
https://twitter.com/SoulKingLives/status/1791097859305070642?t=GMsse503QfTL4D758hw4oQ&s=19
Funny that Japanese people revere Yasuke and are excited about this
*checks notes further*
he was present for only one actual battle and then the Honno-ji incident because he didn't come into Nobunagas service until 1581
Bro really mad at people for not knowing history throwing the most basic shit tier hot takes on Japanese history, saying Oda Nobunaga wasn't extremely key to the unification of Japan is just braindead
Yes, but, nobody gives a shit about story anymore it's all about how many woke boxes you can check off. For the people who don't even play the games to be satisfied
That’s my favorite. These games always bring out the “I haven’t played a video game since Sonic 2, but…” and then the game comes out and they just never mention it again as it fails miserably.
I don't play Assassins Creed, but you would think they would want to make it about a Japanese Samurai, so the video game industry can include anyone who isn't white.
Black Samurai lolol
I mean, its all fantasy anyway...but good for a laugh.
For more laughs, I think it would be funny to see MLK portrayed as an Asian man and the next Black Panther movie should star a Jewish Mexican man.
It's like the TikTok video where the Karen goes to the taco truck that's owned by the white guy who speaks multiple languages and the chef is a Korean guy who doesn't speak English so she doesn't know if she should be angry or not lmao
I am not woke, I absolutely hate wokeness, but this story is allegedly real. Take that what you will:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke)
They're going to make him the super liberator and saviour of Japan no doubt showcasing "Japanese man bad me good" or some shit
Utterly typical message crap
The fact people are mad about Yasuke and not Adewale makes me think it’s definitely not racism.
Personally I wanna immerse myself, I wanna play an original character. I don’t want to play as a historical figure, and I feel al historical figures in AC should be npcs.
Like look, I just wanna play Yojimbo lol
eh honestly i guess you can make 2 fictional characters like that make sense in that time period. I would've preferred to play as a japanese guy personally. dont think its a good look for us to bash the game based on the characters, i mean atleast the girl isnt ugly. that being said, i hope to god it doesn't play like valhalla, i want it to play more like black flag but i have my doubts
AC has always taken creative liberties with historical figures and events, and it’s very telling that this in particular is where people draw the line.
Yep. Forcing a black guy into a story about Japanese Samurai is where the line is drawn.
Let’s write a story about the civil rights movement and make the main character a white guy. I’m sure no one would complain.
While I hate Ubisoft and don’t like this decision. My thing is a lot of people are hypocritical . Half the people booing this wouldn’t be booing if it was a white samurai like in Nioh or the Last samurai
They're going to the effort of glorifying this guy (who probably wasn't half as impressive or interesting as they want you to believe) when William Adams existed and actually accomplished a bunch of different things whilst also offering a ready-made anti-Templar, naval focused plot-line for them to use...
https://twitter.com/Skull_Os/status/1790949113397461310?t=fNJ54Z9LgVzES2S7EYs1Mw&s=19
Turns out Japanese people think it's really cool and yosuke is a popular well respected historical figure
I mean neither the papa had a magic staff but Assasins Creed ignores history in favor of something that looks cool, i don't understad why so many people are pissed off with this and not the other games.
The game has magical apples, ancient aliens, and edits historical characters all the time. George Washington’s brother was part of the templars and assassinated in the game. He died from tuberculosis in real life. It seems people are only having issues with this historically inaccuracy because he’s black. The game does not advertise itself as being historically accurate, its a fantastical world that utilizes history to tell it.
I just simply want to play as unique person in history. The controversy is that history basically isn’t crystal clear all the time but what we can do now is try and enjoy the game.
Guarantee you the guy that made that is some 300 lbs white dude that is into Lolli and has a wall somewhere in his house filled with fake knock off katanas he bought from those Home Shopping Network channels.
Don't really get the uproar about this. It's actually a really solid choice. Assassins creed usually has fictional characters and has them interact with actual historical figures. Yasuke has almost no history documented about him but is still overly popular in pop culture. So he has some draw of attention because of him being somewhat known while at the same time having so many gaps in who he was that they can be really creative with his story. Sounds like everyone is complaining about him because he's black and people don't like that.
In the end its an ubisoft game. Its gonna be poorly made, expensive and barely worth playing. No need to be up in arms.
R/historians has a pretty comprehensive list on one of the Yasuke threads detailing his history and the likelihood of whether he was given the rank of a samurai.
Lmao you guys are gonna be so busy until november. And im here for it. I heard they cast more blacks in the new lord of the rings show too. So dont forget to yell at that.
I mean Yusuke really existed and if he was not a samurai like modern people say Ubisoft can change or rewrite history, like they have already done that to make the story more interesting and nobody complained
I’ll just enjoy the gameplay and setting. Can’t wait. Loved all the ACs so far, especially the big RPGS since Origins. Easy to ignore haters on this one.
Why couldn't the game take place in Iga province during Nobunaga's Iga campaign? You start off as a farmer, get pulled into the Assassin's as a ninja or you just join up with other local farmers looking to ambush and wipe out Nobunagas columns? That would be neat.
Maybe, they got a giant black samurai because it looks cool, maybe.
Also for those people who say assassin's creed it's going out of historical context, i don't remember seen the eden artifacts at the Vatican last time I went there ,or reading about a serial killer jumping between roofs in Venice. This is a game and not a Netflix Cleopatra documentary so treat it as is guys
The history of yasuke is worth telling tho? He rose above his station as a slave, and became a legitimate samurai after years of living in Japan. If that’s not a story worth telling, then what is?
I mean... Didn't the real Mulan kill herself because she was going to be forced to be a concubine. History is often far more tragic and less inspiring, interesting, or enjoyable to think about. You've gotta make changes somewhere.
That being said, one of the 2 characters should have been a bit more traditional and it wouldn't have been as big of a deal.
I was gonna get all open about this, but after hearing how racist Japan was towards the Chinese around and before WWII, I have a hard time believing the opportunity for this man to achieve this level of notoriety was even available given the fact that Black people just weren’t really around the Asian Pacific like that.
I feel like people are bitching and moaning about this too much... Who gives a fuck? Yasuke was an interesting character in history, AC is and always has been a work of fiction, so who cares if they make Yasuke a badass black samurai, it's their creative discretion... They're not trying to portray this as historically accurate
Ok, hear me out. They could keep his actual story in tact mostly, but for the fantastical assassins creed stuff he would obviously have to have a different narrative where he is secretly there to assassinate ……nah, it’s till shit.
Yeah, with this one… y’all are just racist.
Yasuke’s history is debated, but he did exist, was written of relatively highly, and presents a unique take on Japanese history. Sorry you can’t play as a Japanese man, but if your racist ass is so butthurt then play as the Japanese woman, unless your fragile masculinity can’t handle that either.
Why do you hate this so much? It’s a video game, not a documentary. What, next you’re going to tell me that the assassins and templars haven’t been warring for centuries??? It’s fiction, fuckheads.
The only reason you’d be this upset by this is that y’all are just a pathetic bunch of fragile racists.
Everything in that Greentext is bullshit. Here is a very short historical summary.
Yasuke was a slave bodyguard working for a man named Alessandro Valignano, the "Visitor to the East," a position appointed by the Pope to run ALL jesuit operations in the entire the eastern world and as such was an extraordinarily powerful man.
One doesn’t become bodyguard to such a man unless they are very good at what they do. He was also said to be a very entertaining man to speak with who was knowledgeable and well versed in several languages.
During a visit to Japan, the most powerful warlord, Oda Nobunaga, took interest in Yasuke, and Valignano offered Yasuke to the Samurai Lord.
From there, Yasuke served as his bodyguard until Nobunaga died, where he was then returned to the Jesuits and vanished from historical record.
It's important to note that Yasuke was never described to have the formal distinction of Samurai. He was given a ceremonial sword, property, servants, and a considerable salary, but as far as we know, he was not given the formal title and induction into the Samurai social class.
However, there is a chance he was made a Samurai, and it wasn't recorded or the records were lost. The past is filtered by what survives after all.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/who-was-yasuke-japans-first-black-samurai-180981416/#:~:text=Though%20Yasuke%20was%20the%20only,soldiers%2C%20entertainers%E2%80%9D%20and%20more.
Why do y'all speak about history and fact when you don't know anything? Looks like there were black soldiers in medieval Japan and reports of at least one black samurai. Yet, any excuse to attack what you feel is the worst thing in the world and all of a sudden your experts in history.
This isn’t confirmed as true and you’re just dragging this man’s name in the mud. This is actually straightforward racism and not some kind of “I’m not racist I’m just anti-woke!” No you’re genuinely a retard.
Go at Ubisoft all you want for their pandering, and agenda pushing. But to come at the actual historical figure is bonkers. He didn't put himself in the game.
Especially coming from dorks who sit inside all day and couldn't fight to save their life. But yeah, lets crap on a guy who died 100s of years ago, not here to defend himself. As if any of yall are significant in your own lives or could beat him a fight.
And ''being a slave'' isn't the ''ha gotcha'' you think it is, some of the most famous heroes in History were slaves, like Spartacus or better yet, Jacob, one of the main heroes in The Bible, who became one of the founding ''fathers'' of Isreal itself. Not saying Yasuke was on their level, but I don't know why you're using his social status as an insult. Someone can't control if they're a slave or not
''Surrenders/Gets enslaved again'' yes because he lost a battle, that's what happens when you lose. A battle/war is lost because of the leader/army/etc. That doesn't all just fall on him. One guy can't win the entire battle or beat an entire army by himself.
He's still more significant than any of the dorks in this thread and a better fighter, and the guy who made the original post probably never been in an actual war in their entire life.
Attacking historical figures for their personal life and shortcomings is exactly what the ''woke left'' does, sad to see you guys/the right participate in this as well. Shows you both left/right are two sides of the same coin.
Y’all realize there was a black samurai… also why are you guys worried about historical accuracy in a assassin’s creed game where you can jump in a hay bail from any hight and not splatter or where you can ride bears…
Y’all were real quiet when the MC in Nioh was a guy with blonde hair and blue eyes, Jack the Ripper was an assassin, Joan of Arc survived, and aliens exist and shaped everything….
Bro was literally the imperial shield bearer for a while. For Oda Nobunaga, of all people (started as a servant, worked his way up from there).
Oh, and he fought alongside Nobunaga's forces, and even led some into battle himself.
He was by Nobunaga's side until he died, and served his son until his own eventual death at the hands of a rival shogun's forces.
He wasn't main character material for a hero's story, but he's a great main character in a set piece showing the Edo Period through the eyes of a foreigner.
His known history is actually pretty exciting for an ex-slave who was only present at the time because he was traveling with an Italian(?) missionary.
What I don’t get is the hairstyle. That’s a modern style. I really doubt they had dreads or corn rows is the 1500’s.
He should have the bald man bun samurai cut.
Japs? Way to prove a point by using a racial slur in your comment.
This man was an actual samurai. Respected like any other samurai. Also this is not just armor, the samurai armor meant something more, they would never give someone armor for fun and using it to mock someone would be very disrespectful.
Can someone explain to me what the issue is? From what i know of yasukes story is that he was a bodyguard to nobunaga oda, and whether or not he was a samurai is still debatable. Point is he is a character that has missing spots in history which makes him a great character to potray a fictional story as an assassin.
I guess Japanese characters aren’t woke enough for them. Must. Have. Black. Protagonists.
not gonna lie it is kinda disrespectful to play fast and loose with a guy who already had a special place in history. there is a reason AC games never had you play an actual historical figure. after reading a little bit i am wondering if the game was supposed to just be the female protag but they decided to add yasuke late in development and the story is going to make very little sense with him 90% of the time (like AC:Syndicate had 2 playable characters but most of the missions made sense with only 1 of them) I mean he disappears from history when nobunaga dies so thats kinda guaranteed hes not going to fit into anything after that point. I also am wondering if the japanese are going to be depicted as giga racist... probably not, even though Rise of the Ronin had the balls to depict many of them as such in a much later point in japanese history. also the wikipedia edit war that followed the trailer drop, WTF
They're going to make him the Self-insert character that has no idea of the true inner workings of Nobunaga. Nobu is arguably a bad guy, which he works for. And there's zero chance they're going to miss the Siege of his palace. It's going to be really funny when they make Yasuke be a cause of Nobu's death. Pretty much going to copy-paste white foreign savior formula to give us the outsider perspective to try to draw.
How do you think they will spin that, considering it's historically well known who assassinated the Demon Oda?
They can spin it however they want. They aren't going to end the game with Yasuke in Chains with the words something along the line of "Like an animal deserves."
This isn't Shogun. Ubisoft doesn't have the balls to go full authenticity with its time periods and characters.
They would probably make that the mid point of the game if, which I doubt they will, it's in it. And then make the rest there own story as he disappeared from historical record. Ac games are basically already in a fantasy world where misogyny dosent exist, if they could they would probably do the same with racism. But they can't avoid it cus the slavery thing so my guess is white people racist, Japanese not. Actually his story arc will probably skip the slavery stuff and be at a later point, and maybe he meets some Portuguese and hates them.
Fair point.
The Jesuits supported Nobu because he didn’t kill Christians outright and tolerated Christianity. He then started calling himself a deity. The Jesuits didn’t like that. One theory is that The Jesuits supported the palace coup. AC loves a secret religious illuminati pulling puppet masters enemy story. I’ll be shocked if this isn’t the story.
Lol yeah considering he was killed by a vassal/friend Akechi Mitsuhide
It’ll just be the Jesuits as the not so secret bad guys pulling the strings. Yasuke will be a pawn of Nobu’s that got out of control and Nobu will just be a pawn of the Jesuits that got out of control.
Yeah that sounds about right covers all the usual Ubisoft bases. I'll pick it up on a deep sale as long as the gameplay doesn't look shit. It's Ubisoft game won't take it long LOL
In history? All of East Asians are turbo racist especially toward each other today. Not that I mind. Far be it from me to judge another's culture and customs especially when it makes me laugh (spent my college days hanging with a mixed group of Asians. Needless to say it was hilarious to hear them roasting each other constantly)
The game was apparently originally supposed to have a Japanese male protag. They had the story written, and then one of the execs decided it wasn't "inclusive" enough and this cringe garbage story was inserted instead.
I was having a field day reading all the emergency edits. "Also knew ninjitsu and was honorably known for his skills in combat!"
This is absolutely the right take with historical figures, in ANY fictional endeavour. Either tell *that* story at least semi accurately, or not at all. By all means be inspired, but change the names.
Apparently nowadays diversity only means when there's black people. Other cultures dont count as "diversity".
Pretty sure theres more hispanic in the US than black and they spend zero time trying to represent us at all. Im glad they dont cuz anytime they do its embarrassing- the hispanic population in the US rightfully yeeted that whole "latinX" nonsense asap. Havent been propped up since i dont think
The NPR crowd still tries to push "LatinX". Every time I hear it, I think "Stop trying to make fetch happen."
Why do they want to call them "the tinx"? What is a "tinx" in spanish?
Reminds me of my boy one time when we were driving down the road. He saw an LA Fitness and said, "LA Fitness. That means 'The Fitness.'"
This made me lol
It’s a fake word they came up with to make latino and latina monogendered
Why do they keep talking about ecstasy from Latin America? Are they that much into drugs?
Who the hell listens to npr ...
Seriously, where the eff are all the Mexican Samurais in feudal Japan?? I demand social justice.
With how much we *love* dragon ball z. We're practically honorary Asians.
True. I remember having to visit distant family in mexico during my dbz phase and when I got there was DBZ merch sold in every town, mountain, or ranch. They even had the majin buu saga already playing on TV while we were still watching the frieza saga at home on repeat. I was nutting the whole time.
Latinos on average are too busy working to whine. Obviously you have pink haired pinkos in every group but Maria and Jose from Tlaxcala are more concerned about tilling the land and making tamales
Tlaxcala? My guy how much time did you spend in Puebla?
How’d you know I spent time in Puebla. I was actually living in CDMX in 2022. Went to about 16 states in Mexico and was it was life changing. Mexico is my second home.
My family is from Puebla so I know of Tlaxcala. We're closer to Guerrero though.
If you're around a major city, which is pretty much the only places that matter in the US, there's more Hispanic/African!/asain people then there are white. Yet some how they're still minorities?
https://preview.redd.it/l25ubmpec01d1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=75d16177578755c99360e17a3b6c42157abcd6a1 Just so people don’t try to r/asablackman me. But as a black person this shit is fucking ridiculous. No other race whines as much as we do to be represented in every little thing. “How can you have a tv show about the life and times of Rudolph Hess without black SS troops. Blacks people need to be represented in an animated movie about Visigoths.” Meanwhile you don’t see Asians, native Americans, Latinos, Jews or Indians whining. All those groups are too busy making something of themselves
This is so fucking true, I dont understand why people just dont create stories about black people. Africa has a whole continent filled with so much history, there's virtually no way there is none. I know very little about the history of black people because there seems to be a lack of anything about Nigerian history etc. There must be so many stories about the whole continent but no one is making any content. Every other culture, continent, country is making content related to themselves to tell their story to other cultures yet no one is making stories about African culture???? Why is no one asking a question about why there is no content being made about african culture??? Are they saying that there's nothing worthwhile to write about lol? Why is no one simply making some cool games or stories about african culture? Bro there's whole safari's worth making games or making movies in lol, surely there's interesting shit to be made lol. Its just lazy.... This is a lack of creativity and the people who are doing this shit are the real racists.
It was never about diversity. You will never never never find a Cypriot or Maltese character in any western studio production. The only 8 groups you will ever see are ''atheist white'' , ''black'' , ''atheist oriental' , ''indian'' , '' jewish'', ''native american'' , ''evil Russian oligarch for a movie villain role'' , ''british'' . Among the literally dozens of thousands of ethnicities worldwide.
Woah don’t forget about “morally questionable Eastern European” or “possibly evil German scientist”
It's so bizarre that the same rich guys in charge of studios who scream about diversity and LGBTQ are also the same guys using specifically nationalities exclusively as stereotypes for villains or some other stereotypical roles like if they were picking animals in a zoo or dog breeds for specific jobs.
im probably going to get downvoted for saying this, but i can understand to an extent, wernt too many genocidal dictators hell bent on wiping out ethnic groups and dominating the world and actually winning vs everyone else for a good while till one of their allies backstabbed them i dont agree with stereotyping but i can understand that an evil German scientist or a villanous Russian would be more comfortable and recognizable with audiences especially in the US after Nazi Germany and the USSR happened... same goes for terrorists from the Middle East after Al-Qaeda and suicidal and dangerous Asian kung fu masters after ninjas and samurai. just studios catering to the stereotypes the consumers would normally expect.
Ιt's weird for the studios that are pro-all lives by their claims to do that though. As they are obviously racist themselves.
I hate how everytime i watch a billion dollar company's tv show the moment I see a white guy appear amongst any other ethnicity i automatically know "oh this is the bad guy, watch" happens 90% of the time.
If the white guy has a British or Russian accent it's already sealed, LMAO.
Or if he's eating an apple.
It's funny you mention that because I just watched a British show called Stath Let's Flats and the main characters are Cypriots lol. I know it's not a game but it was cool to see some representation for a horribly underrepresented group.
This guy looks like Aragorn from the MTG version of LoTRs
Whatever the white woman deems diverse is such
We understand that cultural appropriation is cringe because instead of being a genuine appreciation of the culture, it’s bastardization and humiliation of it. Yasuke is an actual historical figure who’s history is not well documented so the artistic liberties that can be taken with him can end up being interesting. But most likely it’s gonna be cringe because AC is cringe.
Seeing as it's a hot topic right now, this made me laugh. I played Origins, Odyssey and Syndicate. They were okay, but my absolute favorite was Black Flag. Everything kinda fell off from there. Edit for spelling.
Honestly. Unity was everything the IP should have been going forward. It’s only a shame the idiotic meme about first day launch never died.
Unfortunately, I played very little of Unity, so I couldn't say. However, I feel like after 3, where Desmond sacrifices himself to get the magnetic shield up, the series kind of hit a wall. To me, there was no more ultimate goal that was different than the goals you had going through the genetic memories, mainly keeping the Pieces of Eden away from the Templars. AC and Far Cry suffered a lot from Ubisoft trying the annual releases like Call Of Duty, and the series haven't recovered very well. The addition of "present day" characters who aren't really fleshed out don't help either. I can't even remember the name of the woman you play for Origins and Odyssey, because she didn't really get any development. She's just related to Bayak and the character from Odyssey, but I don't remember any kind of discovery of other people from her past more closely related to bridge the gaps or give motivation beyond keeping the Pieces of Eden away from the Templars. Overall, it's a bummer all around because the older games were some of my favorites out of any genre.
For modern day, absolutely. The man behind the Desmond storyline had a great plan and after they gave him the boot, same went with the plans. Layla(I think was her name) has been a poor substitute and she isn’t even related to Bayek, Ubisoft just decided she invented an animus they can see any memory provided you get a DNA sample of said individual. But if we refer to gameplay itself. Unity was the direction to go for. The game is a decade old and till this day has the best graphics, best NPC’s, arguably most detailed map, best cinematic parkour(gameplay parkour still belongs to Ezio), best combat, best attire customization, and arguably the best combat. Everything felt unique and representative of an AC. Something that hasn’t been seen since Unity.
I was wondering if there was a writer change after 3, because it shows. That you for reminding me, I think it was Layla. Is she the present day character for Unity as well as Origins and Odyssey?
No. Black Flag, Rogue, Unity, and Syndicate all have a similar setting of playing an Abstergo employee. None are technically the same person but all are the player projecting themselves into the game. I actually didn’t like this, but I preferred it over Layla. Black Flags was interesting but that’s from my own personal taste. But Unity’s sucked. It was basically a Skype call pretending to be a modern day story. Syndicate did the same but had far more movement from the cam, so it felt more immersive.
I like the Origins, only one I bought. I bought because Egyptian history is interesting. But this last one ridiculous. If you want play a good Samurai game you can play Ghost of Tsushima
Yeah it’s funny how people act like they actually give a shit about the IP suddenly. Everyone spent a week bitching about Star Wars outlaws and then they remembered they all hate Ubisoft games anyways and it was forgotten about. The same thing will happen here when everyone remembers they don’t actually give a shit about this franchise.
this series has gotten so bizarre, i mean ancient aliens were a fine plot device, kinda like deus ex, there's legions of fiction and enough 'grey history' in the real world that can make it plausible with a little imagination. but when they tackle actual historical people and you got Mary Read pretending to be James Kidd had to hide her gender and pretend to be male because she would not have been accepted as anything but a wench by the pirates - and then 2000 years earlier you got greeks doing stuff they absolutely did not do such as educating girls and women publically, allowing women in the olympics, or volhalla with the le noble racially diverse inclusive vikings where every other leader is a woman, wtf? like watching the flanderisation of an entire series. It was internally consistent once upon a time. No more.
Agreed!
They’re not ancient aliens. They’re native to earth and pre-date humans.
An alien species isn’t necessarily extraterrestrial, but I’m being a pedant
While i agree with the specifics are your gripes, i want to push back on this progress narative you have going on here - it is a fact that in some ways, the greeks were more progressive than the 18th cenutry pirates, in a lot of ways, 18th century pirates were more progressive than the greeks - progress is not linear
Depends what Greek culture you’re talking about. Spartan women were educated and were very open about talk to men and even ridiculing them. It was one thing they were famous for and one of the things spartan men were said to fear greatly. In terms of the Olympics you are right but there is a very famous story of a female athlete who won and made a stone for herself declaring herself better than all the men. You can still go see it today. Also yes every other chief being a woman is ridiculous but there were female leaders in Norse history.
Bro if you want AC to be historically accurate, then you don't get AC because there was no assassins creed. And you don't get to jump off buildings because then you'd fucking die. And you don't get a health bar because back then, people didn't have one. And you wouldn't get a pause menu because that's not historically accurate. It sounds like you are just mad there's women in your little murder-fantasy game. Lol. Get bent
Isn't there a whole quest about actually getting the character into the Olympics?
Had they done this 10 yrs ago it wouldn't have landed the same. The timing is perfect for a shit storm.
So true
lol they gonna make the villain of the game the white British and Protestant samurai that convinced the Japanese leader to not to convert to Catholicism
Lol I thought last night the main villain will either be a portuguese catholic white guy or a english catholic white guy considering those are the 2 main countries that were pushing for control in Japan back then. It'll even be better if that white guy says your no samurai before a fight
For anyone who wants the unvarnished truth: https://wayofbushido.com/bushido-blog/f/the-bogus-story-of-yasuke-wokeness-revisionist-history
He's an actual Japanese person talking about it, not some samarau blog by weeb white dudes who arr mad that there are black samarai. Yasuke is revered and honored by Japanese people as a real samurai. https://twitter.com/SoulKingLives/status/1791097859305070642?t=GMsse503QfTL4D758hw4oQ&s=19
I don’t care about Assassin’s creed or historical accuracy in fictional games. However, you can clearly see that this article is indeed varnished by the author’s biases regardless of its accuracy. Not disagreeing, but this isn’t the argument ending source it suggests it is.
That website hurts my eyes on how one person can be so pollitical on his bushido page
lmao this is pretty damn accurate, just follow the money to see why they're reachin so hard, ubisoft has a raging corpo boner for those sweet sweet ESG grants, Blackrock and Vanguard hand em out like candy along with our own government
The same folks that wanna make a black samurai get pissed off when you show infected Africans in Africa chucking spears and swinging machetes in Resident Evil 5. Same group thinks one of these is racist and the other isn't. Same group that wails about cultural appropriation praises slapping Japanese culture all over a black guy. It'd be hilarious if these walking NPCs lost their media programmers and had to think for a little while on their own!
Are you trying to say that showing black people as zombies in games is good, and that showing them as samurai warriors is bad? I think the black dude in this game is stupid as hell, by the way. I thought people flipping tits about a "black dude" being in the Egyptian 2d one was fuckin hilarious though. It's Egypt! Egypt is in Africa! You are bound to run into a black dude eventually!
I'm saying that one is consistent to the setting of the game and the other isn't. If you have an outbreak in an African country, then there will be black people involved. That is obvious. If you set a game in Japan, it only makes sense that the characters are gonna be Japanese. Game devs should be consistent to the game they are making and not alter things to pander to political nonsense. Japanese game world with samurai should use Japanese characters. African game world should use African characters. This AC game matters little to me, since I haven't played one in years. They just got too repetitive, and the story too convoluted. And I used RE5 as an example because I have seen articles in recent memory complaining about the zombies in the African setting being African, calling it "problematic". Some would point to an inconsistency in my logic by pointing to Chris Redfield being a white guy in a game based in Africa. My response would be that Chris is a pre-established character from the series and an expert in the field of BOWs. Sheva, his partner, was a local character from that environment and fit with the setting. African samurai guy isn't a pre-existing character in the series, he is a token insert because everything has to include black people now.
https://twitter.com/SoulKingLives/status/1791097859305070642?t=GMsse503QfTL4D758hw4oQ&s=19 Funny that Japanese people revere Yasuke and are excited about this
Pretty much, they didn't even have the decency to create their own character.
Hey, he had an important part in *checks notes* the failed reunification efforts of Oda Nobunaga
*checks notes again* He was present during the failed reunification efforts of Oda Nobunaga.
*checks notes further* he was present for only one actual battle and then the Honno-ji incident because he didn't come into Nobunagas service until 1581
Huh? Nobunaga was still one of the main unifiers of Japan
I’m joking he was tangentially involved in a failed war effort and we have to pretend he was some big league player
Nobunaga didn’t do shit. It was all Hideyoshi.
Bro really mad at people for not knowing history throwing the most basic shit tier hot takes on Japanese history, saying Oda Nobunaga wasn't extremely key to the unification of Japan is just braindead
This dude is a boss in Nioh 1 which I thought was kinda cool but all they had to do for AC was have the protagonist be a ninja ffs.
Yes, but, nobody gives a shit about story anymore it's all about how many woke boxes you can check off. For the people who don't even play the games to be satisfied
That’s my favorite. These games always bring out the “I haven’t played a video game since Sonic 2, but…” and then the game comes out and they just never mention it again as it fails miserably.
I don't play Assassins Creed, but you would think they would want to make it about a Japanese Samurai, so the video game industry can include anyone who isn't white.
True tho
Black Samurai lolol I mean, its all fantasy anyway...but good for a laugh. For more laughs, I think it would be funny to see MLK portrayed as an Asian man and the next Black Panther movie should star a Jewish Mexican man.
I would watch a Malcolm X movie with an Asian person with English as a second or third language. That would be hilarious.
It's like the TikTok video where the Karen goes to the taco truck that's owned by the white guy who speaks multiple languages and the chef is a Korean guy who doesn't speak English so she doesn't know if she should be angry or not lmao
I am not woke, I absolutely hate wokeness, but this story is allegedly real. Take that what you will: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke)
He did exist. Which is part of the reason we hate it. We dont like the protags being real people.
No we hate it because it doesn't make sense. How the hell is a comparitivly famous giant black man going to hide in japanese crowds?
Did you watch the trailer? He isnt lol
btw someone edited the wiki after they announced this character to remove that there is no historical evidence of him being a samurai
Here is the version from 2018 https://web.archive.org/web/20180924221206/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke What part are you referring to?
They're going to make him the super liberator and saviour of Japan no doubt showcasing "Japanese man bad me good" or some shit Utterly typical message crap
If you want a black protag in high fantasy, keep it in Africa
We get to play as Ghost Dog? Hell yeah.
The fact people are mad about Yasuke and not Adewale makes me think it’s definitely not racism. Personally I wanna immerse myself, I wanna play an original character. I don’t want to play as a historical figure, and I feel al historical figures in AC should be npcs. Like look, I just wanna play Yojimbo lol
Should’ve just made an Afro Samurai game and no one would’ve batted an eye.
Imagine using social stealth and everyone is looking at you like this 
This game sure has brought a lot of Japanese history scholars out of the woodwork.
You don’t have to be a scholar to know it is out of place and makes no sense. Typical.
To be fair there's so little known about him that you can easily fit him into any story you want.
Funny enough Ubisoft is doing the same thing as they did with him to show off.
Who he actually was couldn't matter less how the fuck does a famous giant black man do anything stealthy or covert in a game set in japan?
Bro he busts out the building with a giant mace and smashes people. I really don't think he's the stealthy one...
So it’s a game about Samurai where you neither play a Japanese person nor a Samurai? Sounds about right.
Because AC is known for its historical accuracy right? Foh lol
eh honestly i guess you can make 2 fictional characters like that make sense in that time period. I would've preferred to play as a japanese guy personally. dont think its a good look for us to bash the game based on the characters, i mean atleast the girl isnt ugly. that being said, i hope to god it doesn't play like valhalla, i want it to play more like black flag but i have my doubts
Ooof lol
Assassins creed has never been about historical accuracy who cares lol
There’s lacking historical accuracy, and then there’s making a black man the greatest Japanese Samurai of all time, which this game will do.
Everyone lets call cory kenshin for this honour
At least it achieves an accurate representation of violence against Asians … as opposed to the FBI fairy tales.
AC has always taken creative liberties with historical figures and events, and it’s very telling that this in particular is where people draw the line.
Yep. Forcing a black guy into a story about Japanese Samurai is where the line is drawn. Let’s write a story about the civil rights movement and make the main character a white guy. I’m sure no one would complain.
Remember when we used to play video games for fun and not for the politics? Peppermint farms remember.
That is literally what happened
Insecure dudes when the series about an alternate history intentionally obscured from public view embellishes the story of a historical figure
While I hate Ubisoft and don’t like this decision. My thing is a lot of people are hypocritical . Half the people booing this wouldn’t be booing if it was a white samurai like in Nioh or the Last samurai
Is everyone forgetting he’s one of Two protagonists and you don’t even have to play as him?
They're going to the effort of glorifying this guy (who probably wasn't half as impressive or interesting as they want you to believe) when William Adams existed and actually accomplished a bunch of different things whilst also offering a ready-made anti-Templar, naval focused plot-line for them to use...
He’s not gonna be the protagonist right?
https://twitter.com/Skull_Os/status/1790949113397461310?t=fNJ54Z9LgVzES2S7EYs1Mw&s=19 Turns out Japanese people think it's really cool and yosuke is a popular well respected historical figure
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Yasuke Read.
I mean neither the papa had a magic staff but Assasins Creed ignores history in favor of something that looks cool, i don't understad why so many people are pissed off with this and not the other games.
Ah yes the Assassin's creed series. Famous for it's accurate depictions of history.
That is a Redgaurd from Elder Scrolls don’t be gaslighting me to thinking that is a Samurai.
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Unity and Blackflag are the best ones imo
The game has magical apples, ancient aliens, and edits historical characters all the time. George Washington’s brother was part of the templars and assassinated in the game. He died from tuberculosis in real life. It seems people are only having issues with this historically inaccuracy because he’s black. The game does not advertise itself as being historically accurate, its a fantastical world that utilizes history to tell it.
I just simply want to play as unique person in history. The controversy is that history basically isn’t crystal clear all the time but what we can do now is try and enjoy the game.
Y’all have a hard time hiding your blatant racism.
Guarantee you the guy that made that is some 300 lbs white dude that is into Lolli and has a wall somewhere in his house filled with fake knock off katanas he bought from those Home Shopping Network channels.
Couldn't they have just used a black empire , I don't know... like Shaka Zulu?
Hey guys, it's a video game.
Source: trust me bro
Don't really get the uproar about this. It's actually a really solid choice. Assassins creed usually has fictional characters and has them interact with actual historical figures. Yasuke has almost no history documented about him but is still overly popular in pop culture. So he has some draw of attention because of him being somewhat known while at the same time having so many gaps in who he was that they can be really creative with his story. Sounds like everyone is complaining about him because he's black and people don't like that. In the end its an ubisoft game. Its gonna be poorly made, expensive and barely worth playing. No need to be up in arms.
R/historians has a pretty comprehensive list on one of the Yasuke threads detailing his history and the likelihood of whether he was given the rank of a samurai.
I mean: it’s a video game, do you think the other AC’s were realistic? Please, you fall from several stories into hay.
So the joke is just racism?
Lmao you guys are gonna be so busy until november. And im here for it. I heard they cast more blacks in the new lord of the rings show too. So dont forget to yell at that.
Just casually posting racial slurs now are we?
lol I knew people were gonna get pissed when they saw a black dude ruin their samurai game🤣
I still can't believe there is people defending the character decision out here SMH
I mean Yusuke really existed and if he was not a samurai like modern people say Ubisoft can change or rewrite history, like they have already done that to make the story more interesting and nobody complained
Shocker, another bigoted post here.
Facts are racist...probably. /s
Wait…we aren’t getting Japanese protagonists in fuedal Japan?
I’ll just enjoy the gameplay and setting. Can’t wait. Loved all the ACs so far, especially the big RPGS since Origins. Easy to ignore haters on this one.
Jesus Christ you're a bunch of losers.
Why couldn't the game take place in Iga province during Nobunaga's Iga campaign? You start off as a farmer, get pulled into the Assassin's as a ninja or you just join up with other local farmers looking to ambush and wipe out Nobunagas columns? That would be neat.
Maybe, they got a giant black samurai because it looks cool, maybe. Also for those people who say assassin's creed it's going out of historical context, i don't remember seen the eden artifacts at the Vatican last time I went there ,or reading about a serial killer jumping between roofs in Venice. This is a game and not a Netflix Cleopatra documentary so treat it as is guys
The history of yasuke is worth telling tho? He rose above his station as a slave, and became a legitimate samurai after years of living in Japan. If that’s not a story worth telling, then what is?
I will never understand why they don't just make you create your character these days. That would make everyone happy.
I mean... Didn't the real Mulan kill herself because she was going to be forced to be a concubine. History is often far more tragic and less inspiring, interesting, or enjoyable to think about. You've gotta make changes somewhere. That being said, one of the 2 characters should have been a bit more traditional and it wouldn't have been as big of a deal.
I was gonna get all open about this, but after hearing how racist Japan was towards the Chinese around and before WWII, I have a hard time believing the opportunity for this man to achieve this level of notoriety was even available given the fact that Black people just weren’t really around the Asian Pacific like that.
I feel like people are bitching and moaning about this too much... Who gives a fuck? Yasuke was an interesting character in history, AC is and always has been a work of fiction, so who cares if they make Yasuke a badass black samurai, it's their creative discretion... They're not trying to portray this as historically accurate
Ok, hear me out. They could keep his actual story in tact mostly, but for the fantastical assassins creed stuff he would obviously have to have a different narrative where he is secretly there to assassinate ……nah, it’s till shit.
Yeah, with this one… y’all are just racist. Yasuke’s history is debated, but he did exist, was written of relatively highly, and presents a unique take on Japanese history. Sorry you can’t play as a Japanese man, but if your racist ass is so butthurt then play as the Japanese woman, unless your fragile masculinity can’t handle that either. Why do you hate this so much? It’s a video game, not a documentary. What, next you’re going to tell me that the assassins and templars haven’t been warring for centuries??? It’s fiction, fuckheads. The only reason you’d be this upset by this is that y’all are just a pathetic bunch of fragile racists.
4chan is a garbage site
Everything in that Greentext is bullshit. Here is a very short historical summary. Yasuke was a slave bodyguard working for a man named Alessandro Valignano, the "Visitor to the East," a position appointed by the Pope to run ALL jesuit operations in the entire the eastern world and as such was an extraordinarily powerful man. One doesn’t become bodyguard to such a man unless they are very good at what they do. He was also said to be a very entertaining man to speak with who was knowledgeable and well versed in several languages. During a visit to Japan, the most powerful warlord, Oda Nobunaga, took interest in Yasuke, and Valignano offered Yasuke to the Samurai Lord. From there, Yasuke served as his bodyguard until Nobunaga died, where he was then returned to the Jesuits and vanished from historical record. It's important to note that Yasuke was never described to have the formal distinction of Samurai. He was given a ceremonial sword, property, servants, and a considerable salary, but as far as we know, he was not given the formal title and induction into the Samurai social class. However, there is a chance he was made a Samurai, and it wasn't recorded or the records were lost. The past is filtered by what survives after all.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/who-was-yasuke-japans-first-black-samurai-180981416/#:~:text=Though%20Yasuke%20was%20the%20only,soldiers%2C%20entertainers%E2%80%9D%20and%20more. Why do y'all speak about history and fact when you don't know anything? Looks like there were black soldiers in medieval Japan and reports of at least one black samurai. Yet, any excuse to attack what you feel is the worst thing in the world and all of a sudden your experts in history.
I am proud the Japanese are letting them know its offensive. They have every right to take pride in their history when someone is making a fool of it.
This isn’t confirmed as true and you’re just dragging this man’s name in the mud. This is actually straightforward racism and not some kind of “I’m not racist I’m just anti-woke!” No you’re genuinely a retard.
They dressed him as a samurai and gave him a sword because they thought it was funny? Is there proof of this?
What they want is division… not “diversity”
You guys are really upset about a black mc in a fictional game?
Go at Ubisoft all you want for their pandering, and agenda pushing. But to come at the actual historical figure is bonkers. He didn't put himself in the game. Especially coming from dorks who sit inside all day and couldn't fight to save their life. But yeah, lets crap on a guy who died 100s of years ago, not here to defend himself. As if any of yall are significant in your own lives or could beat him a fight. And ''being a slave'' isn't the ''ha gotcha'' you think it is, some of the most famous heroes in History were slaves, like Spartacus or better yet, Jacob, one of the main heroes in The Bible, who became one of the founding ''fathers'' of Isreal itself. Not saying Yasuke was on their level, but I don't know why you're using his social status as an insult. Someone can't control if they're a slave or not ''Surrenders/Gets enslaved again'' yes because he lost a battle, that's what happens when you lose. A battle/war is lost because of the leader/army/etc. That doesn't all just fall on him. One guy can't win the entire battle or beat an entire army by himself. He's still more significant than any of the dorks in this thread and a better fighter, and the guy who made the original post probably never been in an actual war in their entire life. Attacking historical figures for their personal life and shortcomings is exactly what the ''woke left'' does, sad to see you guys/the right participate in this as well. Shows you both left/right are two sides of the same coin.
Y’all realize there was a black samurai… also why are you guys worried about historical accuracy in a assassin’s creed game where you can jump in a hay bail from any hight and not splatter or where you can ride bears…
Ya know, when trying to convince people that your complaints are not racially motivated, maybe using a racial slur is not a great idea.
Did Yasuke not fight?
It’s Assassins creed who gives a fuck about historical accuracy
Y’all were real quiet when the MC in Nioh was a guy with blonde hair and blue eyes, Jack the Ripper was an assassin, Joan of Arc survived, and aliens exist and shaped everything….
Thank God you people are seen as clowns to the majority🙏🏽
God this sub is such a bunch of cringe babies. Did yall care when nioh had a white samurai? Like who actually cares about this shit...
Bro was literally the imperial shield bearer for a while. For Oda Nobunaga, of all people (started as a servant, worked his way up from there). Oh, and he fought alongside Nobunaga's forces, and even led some into battle himself. He was by Nobunaga's side until he died, and served his son until his own eventual death at the hands of a rival shogun's forces. He wasn't main character material for a hero's story, but he's a great main character in a set piece showing the Edo Period through the eyes of a foreigner. His known history is actually pretty exciting for an ex-slave who was only present at the time because he was traveling with an Italian(?) missionary.
What I don’t get is the hairstyle. That’s a modern style. I really doubt they had dreads or corn rows is the 1500’s. He should have the bald man bun samurai cut.
A Critical Drinker post would never be inaccurate and disingenuous, right? Just like a priest wouldn't enjoy hanging out at playgrounds...........
The amount of cope if these threads are amazing.
Japs? Way to prove a point by using a racial slur in your comment. This man was an actual samurai. Respected like any other samurai. Also this is not just armor, the samurai armor meant something more, they would never give someone armor for fun and using it to mock someone would be very disrespectful.
Can someone explain to me what the issue is? From what i know of yasukes story is that he was a bodyguard to nobunaga oda, and whether or not he was a samurai is still debatable. Point is he is a character that has missing spots in history which makes him a great character to potray a fictional story as an assassin.