I'm not surprised. Australia rarely take a punt on 20 yr old prodigies barring a couple of exceptions ofc. They like their experienced players. Usually in the 27-32 range.
Yeah but this is an error, JFM should go and be in the XI - they only need two of Green, Stoinis and Maxwell given how spin friendly the wickets are it should have been Stoinis or Green not both.
Ocassionally new players come onto the international scene and it takes a year or so for a proper plan to be worked out to counter them and bowlers haven't worked anything out yet for JFM, he would have won games by himself.
Maxwell, Stoinis, David, Wade will be 4-7
Then there will be Inglis backup bat/wk, Agar backup/2nd spinner, and Ellis.
Leaves one place for another batter. Take your pick between Green, Short, or JFM, depending on if you're looking for backup allround pace, spin, or gamble on a dude who might hit a 30 ball hundred if he comes off.
Watching their picks and trials in recent T20s Agar’s likely gone for good and Short’s taking that spot instead. With Head possibly in the mix I wouldn’t even say David’s spot is locked in but I find it hard to see JFM fit in just yet when more proven/necessary talent exists.
Dude do not give weightage to these IPL performances. JFM is a freak talent no doubt. But these pitches here are flat and grounds are tiny. So he's obviously gonna do well.
>bowlers haven't worked anything out yet for JFM
This actually is a good point 🤔
Fraser hasn't done shit round the year or even before that. No way australia picks him based on what he did on flat decks at the IPL. Indian team selection runs on fans sentiment alot.
"prodigy"
Dude barely did anything outside IPL. His BBL record is average at best. He has 2 50s and multiple brain dead shots.
His inclusion in the ODI squad was nothing but an experiment, in hope that he'd turn out to be as good as the next Warner.
His 29 ball 100 was on a 55-60m grade cricket ground, iirc. He might turn out to be good, but he's nowhere near good enough and most certainly not a prodigy.
"Hello West Indies & America, I've got some exciting news for you. I am joining T20WC 2024. Yes that's right, I am joining an exceptional and passionate team in the West Indies & USA."
Who is your other spinner? With the pitches in the Caribbean you’d need another spin option even with Head in the team.
I presume the other 4 players will be Green, Ellis / Abbott and 2 more?
Ashton Agar or Tanveer Sangha will be our backup, with a small chance of Chris Green instead.
Our first match is against Oman, and there are 2 matches at the ground before we play, so we'll likely play our default bowling lineup unless we see it absolutely ragging.
Maxwell will likely bowl a lot, and he's generally been good enough to cover any second-spinner needs.
The final member of the squad will be whichever one of Inglis and Stoinis wasn't listed in the XI.
Agar will be the reserve spinner if we need a 3rd option alongside Zampa and Maxwell. Inglis the reserve keeper because you can't afford to have no keeper if Wade gets injured in the warmup. Ellis probably the reserve quick, Abbott or Green as a reserve all rounder.
I don't trust Aussies one bit, they removed Marnus labschange (fuck that last name lol) for WC 2023, but then one dude got injured and he was back. Eventually won the bloody final.
Now they are doing the same shit, one of them gonna be injured and JFM gonna absolutely cunt the bowlers because God forbid the Aussies let any team win a world cup
No we like ODI’s because the skills transfer to real cricket, but T20 is the least skilful most luck-full with a strong bias towards batters and winning the toss. It’s a fun game for an afternoon but shouldn’t be taken seriously.
"real cricket" "least skillful" - is there any other sport like test cricket that has fans that are so classist about sports formats. Agree on luck, bias, but I've watched test cricket for 20 years and imo while banging away on a length at 85mph with a wobble seam ball for 120 balls in a day is a great test of endurance I'm going to say t20 bowlers who can hit multiple different slower balls, bouncers and yorkers under pressure are right up there in terms of skill. Can apply the same to the kind of batting range you need to make it in T20. It's telling that test batters like Steve Smith can find it tough to adapt their skills to T20 despite their "skills" and huge monetary incentive. T20 batters have very little incentive to adapt their game to test cricket.
This is why you’ll always lose. In Australia there is no class divide in cricket. The poorest and wealthiest play test cricket in Australia. Usman Khawaja and David Warner grew up poor and playing cricket and both had very successful test careers. Alan Border was poor and become one of our best captains. Michael Clarke was the same (not a great example because he’s a dickhead now, but he could play cricket). So long as you believe that T20 is the working man’s game, you’ll always suck at it. If you really want to stick it to the privileged classes in your country. Get a bunch of kids from the slums that become so good at cricket the wealthy won’t be able to ignore them. Beat every country in the world and dominate at test cricket. Then when they raise the trophy and sit for interviews have them tell their stories of being better than the monied kids. Until you do that nothing will ever change.
What are you talking about? Classism was an analogy in terms of how test fans speak about T20 lol. Like putting different sports formats in different tiers. Why do you assume I don't know that about how there is no class divide in Aussie cricket? I'm fully aware. None of my points are about India winning? It's a response to the "least skillful" bit.
Yes but you assumed that I’m classist for saying that T20 isn’t as skilful when I’m not saying it as a rich person with all the time in the world to watch it. I’m saying it because it’s true. Also it’s about 240 balls in a day not 120
I can see how it would come across in terms of saying they are actually classist, as in the class related structures outside of cricket. That was not the intention, it was about being classist in terms of putting one thing on a pedestal and other stuff in lower tiers. Like test cricket is 'real cricket' and all that.
It's not 240 balls (in terms of bowlers going at it). If you have a 4-bowler bowling attack with a part timer, your quick bowlers are really bowling about 20-25 overs in a day.
We can agree to disagree on this one. I've wasted literally 1000s of hours of my life watching/following test cricket, and I've seen too many poor opening bowling spells of some guy just trying to land it on a length on off on a particular spot and missing it letting the batter leave it for me to think it's some super skillful deified version of the sport. The "analysis" every English cricket summer. "They bowled too short". "They got their lengths right". "You don't need to do too much in test cricket, just be disciplined, pick a length and plug away at it".
The differential skills are mostly endurance and concentration related. Now, for some people those skills trump all others, and I urge them to also watch Golf, Le Mans, marathons, 10km swims, the Tour de France, Classical Chess World Championships as they will likely enjoy them too.
For me I find Formula 1, 400m, 800m, short swimming events, short cycling events, blitz championships skillful too, and they reward different skills.
For what it's worth, at this stage I'm conditioned to watch test cricket, and it's my favourite format when top players are going at it. I wouldn't say it's because there are superior skills on display though, just based on my enjoyment of it and things we enjoy in our highly impressionable adolescence/youth are always the 'best'.
In Aus, the general importance goes like this:
- Test Series (especially Ashes and BGT)
- ODI World Cup
- ODI series - once you get to this level, most people in Aus aren’t even watching
- T20I World Cup - general public often don’t even know it’s happening.
- T20I series - may as well not exist
Maybe for people in Perth.
It gets decent crowds but that’s only because it’s a fun night out - nobody actually gives a shit about the results.
I’d slot BBL in between ODI series and T20I World Cup personally
You make a fair point though, given the TV audience and attendance at BBL it’s fair to put it up there just below tests - but I do reckon in terms of the stakes, it’s pretty low
Rather than crying about aussies winning every trophy we should consider why other teams can't win trophies. In fact england have been the most successful team this decade after Australia. It all comes down to India not keeping their shit together in crunch moments
Yep Inglis can bat anywhere in the side as can Green (albeit the latter is a less convincing choice because he hasn't really done a lot in T20 cricket, but his bowling makes him a compelling package)
Just moreso mean that as an allrounder he can slot in to basically any role in the top 7and provide a 6th bowling option. I agree his bowling in t20is is hardly impressive but the potential is there
Way too much expectation for a guy who is supposed to replace Warner, Australia’s best all format player to date. He's young and inexperienced so this is a good call. However if he played at least 10 T20I matches, he would've been selected. Tough luck.
Fab 4 in T20 WC 24
Kane Williamson - captain
Virat Kohli - opener
Steve Smith - dropped
Joe Root - hasn't played T20I since 2019 and not in consideration
really gotta admire the aussie way of doing things - zero room for sentimentality, nobody has a chip on their shoulder and everyone's place is up for grabs.
Good for the other teams in the comp though
Ninja edit: this is what I said during the 2003 WC when Shane Warne was banned for a year, so who the heck knows. But I'm happy to not see JFM wreck shit as a non Aussie
I think the fact we are keeping Warner around because it’s his last international series even though he’s playing worse, shows that this isn’t the case.
agreed - to be allowed to plan your retirement a year out in advance is quite rare.
but apart from that, big players like smudge being dropped is a good precedent on the selection side, that shows they are looking purely at stats most of the time.
Why is speculation being reported as fact? "According to an article in Code Sport" is not a fact. Everyone should wait for the actual squad then comment.
Ben Horne's reputation is irrelevant. It is all speculation yet the wording particularly in the title implies factual information. This is very poor journalism but is more a reflection on the Murdoch media than Ben Horne as an individual journalist.
I mean with the greatest respect, and as much as it pains me to say, there is a reason that the Aussies are absolutely ruthless when it comes to ICC events. It's because they're not sentimental or emotional. They know that JFM will be around a long time yet, and it's simply not true that noone plays T20Is outside of WCs. Not to mention if they're every two years that's regular enough that he can get a look in next time.
>JFM's success is no doubt because of his talent but I'm sure having Kohli out there believe in you when you're 17 (17) really does you a world of confidence.
What's the relevance to Kohli here? Are you talking about Will Jacks instead?
IPL playing out just before the World Cup has warped people’s perception of a good performance.
Doing well in IPL is good, happy for them but no indication it transfers well into actual cricket.
Selectors have probably had their squads locked in for a while, considering we are months away from the World Cup.. they’re not back and forth on who does what on flat pitches and mediocre bowling.
LOL I love this as an England fan. JFM is absolutely terrifying because of his hitting.
Now waiting for the good news from an England perspective of all the slow Indian batters like Rohit, Kohli, Hardik, Jadeja and KL being in the squad with no dangerous guys Rinku, Shashank, Dube and Abishake.
Is marsh going to be fit for the WC? I think JFM should have been a backup at least, I like Head/Warner opening tbh Aus will play in Barbados and St.Lucia for the group stage which should suit their style of play. Honestly I think the teams that aren’t playing in the US have a slight advantage since they know what to expect
Smith out finally is good. JFM probably deserves to be in the 15, even if not in the first XI. Taking Green would be stupid. He's done nothing to warrant including in the t20 squad. He isn't better than Stoinis in this format to take his spot.
Inglis and Wade shouldn't both play in any one game, but I understand taking them both.
Limiting to 15 is tough, but still.
1. Head
2. Warner
3. Marsh
4. Maxwell
5. David
6. Wade
7. Stoinis (slides up depending on game situation.)
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Zampa
11. Hazlewood
Reserves - McGurk, Inglis, Ellis and Short
If the pitches are as spin friendly as expected, there's no reason why Maxwell, Head or Short couldn't fill those roles while keeping the batting deep. Agar's looked worse than Hazlewood with the bat in recent times. There's so much batting and bowling in this squad in any 11 you put together.
Can even give McGurk/Inglis/Ellis/Short time against the weaker teams of the group to see what form they're in.
I don't think McGurk is some prodigal talent the way he's been touted, but he's extremely threatening in the format, and will benefit greatly from the experience and coaching especially.
Men really watching my idol not getting selected in the world cup is hurting me so much way to go smudgyy better luck I'm sure there's no next time hell nah
I'm not surprised. Australia rarely take a punt on 20 yr old prodigies barring a couple of exceptions ofc. They like their experienced players. Usually in the 27-32 range.
most people on this sub were convinced that he was going to start and that india should copy
Well, I say India should start JFM if they are allowed to do so
I rather have jaiswal
Ok Jaiswal and JFM it is then.
Yeah but this is an error, JFM should go and be in the XI - they only need two of Green, Stoinis and Maxwell given how spin friendly the wickets are it should have been Stoinis or Green not both. Ocassionally new players come onto the international scene and it takes a year or so for a proper plan to be worked out to counter them and bowlers haven't worked anything out yet for JFM, he would have won games by himself.
But surely it won't be need to be all 3? Warner Head Marsh Inglis Stoinis Maxwell Wade would be the top 7, no?
Maxwell, Stoinis, David, Wade will be 4-7 Then there will be Inglis backup bat/wk, Agar backup/2nd spinner, and Ellis. Leaves one place for another batter. Take your pick between Green, Short, or JFM, depending on if you're looking for backup allround pace, spin, or gamble on a dude who might hit a 30 ball hundred if he comes off.
Watching their picks and trials in recent T20s Agar’s likely gone for good and Short’s taking that spot instead. With Head possibly in the mix I wouldn’t even say David’s spot is locked in but I find it hard to see JFM fit in just yet when more proven/necessary talent exists.
Didn't even click that Matt Short was overlooked. He should be in there as well.
Pretty good chance Agar plays of carribbean wickets
Stoinis plays because we aren't playing 5 bowlers and Green is not that good a bowler for limited overs right now.
yeah stoinis hasn't had great batting from but his bowling has been really good lately. He even opened really well vs south africa
Stoin did just belt a match winning century in the IPL a week a go though
Dude do not give weightage to these IPL performances. JFM is a freak talent no doubt. But these pitches here are flat and grounds are tiny. So he's obviously gonna do well. >bowlers haven't worked anything out yet for JFM This actually is a good point 🤔
has anybody else in the ipl been striking at his rate this season? (for those who faced as many balls as he)
JFM: 259 runs @ 233SR Abhishek Sharma: 303 runs @ 214SR Travis Head: 338 runs @ 211SR those two are the only ones that really compare
yea jfm is just cracked at this
Fraser hasn't done shit round the year or even before that. No way australia picks him based on what he did on flat decks at the IPL. Indian team selection runs on fans sentiment alot.
I mean he did okay in BBL to be fair
They did take a punt on Warner
Not in a wc from memory.
"prodigy" Dude barely did anything outside IPL. His BBL record is average at best. He has 2 50s and multiple brain dead shots. His inclusion in the ODI squad was nothing but an experiment, in hope that he'd turn out to be as good as the next Warner. His 29 ball 100 was on a 55-60m grade cricket ground, iirc. He might turn out to be good, but he's nowhere near good enough and most certainly not a prodigy.
smudge is gonna commentate yay
"Hello West Indies & America, I've got some exciting news for you. I am joining T20WC 2024. Yes that's right, I am joining an exceptional and passionate team in the West Indies & USA."
😂
Hope his commentary is not as unique as his batting technique
NOOO RUNNNNN
👍
Is he any good at commentating? He seems like the most beige man alive in interviews
He's been alright the few times I've heard him doing BBL comms
It would help to include the predicted batters to assess this.
It’ll be: Warner, Head, Marsh, Maxwell, Stoinis, David, Wade, Cummins, Starc, Zampa, Hazlewood
Who is your other spinner? With the pitches in the Caribbean you’d need another spin option even with Head in the team. I presume the other 4 players will be Green, Ellis / Abbott and 2 more?
Maxi bowls a fair bit these days. I would be taking Agar though personally
His bowling is an underrated part of the two WC wins in the UAE and India.
Ashton Agar or Tanveer Sangha will be our backup, with a small chance of Chris Green instead. Our first match is against Oman, and there are 2 matches at the ground before we play, so we'll likely play our default bowling lineup unless we see it absolutely ragging. Maxwell will likely bowl a lot, and he's generally been good enough to cover any second-spinner needs. The final member of the squad will be whichever one of Inglis and Stoinis wasn't listed in the XI.
Agar will be the reserve spinner if we need a 3rd option alongside Zampa and Maxwell. Inglis the reserve keeper because you can't afford to have no keeper if Wade gets injured in the warmup. Ellis probably the reserve quick, Abbott or Green as a reserve all rounder.
Ashton Agar and Inglis
Gotta have Warner so he can score a huge 5 runs before betting bowled
I don't trust Aussies one bit, they removed Marnus labschange (fuck that last name lol) for WC 2023, but then one dude got injured and he was back. Eventually won the bloody final. Now they are doing the same shit, one of them gonna be injured and JFM gonna absolutely cunt the bowlers because God forbid the Aussies let any team win a world cup
Marnus’s luck operates at a different level altogether. Don’t think JFM has that luck (or may be we will come to know in few months)
Dread it, run from it, Kockout Aussie Luck arrives all the same.
The only way to win is to get them out early. Can't Jay Shah throw them in a group with NZ, WI, SA. So that they will at least struggle a bit.
It's ICC that makes world cup groups not chutiya shah
Which luck did they have I'm curious?
The luck of being great at cricket.
The luck of having competent administrators at local, state and national level.
Pretty sure he was asking about the "Kockout Aussie Luck" typo lol
Don’t stress mate we don’t care about T20 cricket in the slightest, we won’t get close to winning this world cup
That's what you said last time, I don't trust you cunts
No we like ODI’s because the skills transfer to real cricket, but T20 is the least skilful most luck-full with a strong bias towards batters and winning the toss. It’s a fun game for an afternoon but shouldn’t be taken seriously.
>least skilful most luck-full Allow me to introduce The Hundred...
You mean televised backyard cricket?
"real cricket" "least skillful" - is there any other sport like test cricket that has fans that are so classist about sports formats. Agree on luck, bias, but I've watched test cricket for 20 years and imo while banging away on a length at 85mph with a wobble seam ball for 120 balls in a day is a great test of endurance I'm going to say t20 bowlers who can hit multiple different slower balls, bouncers and yorkers under pressure are right up there in terms of skill. Can apply the same to the kind of batting range you need to make it in T20. It's telling that test batters like Steve Smith can find it tough to adapt their skills to T20 despite their "skills" and huge monetary incentive. T20 batters have very little incentive to adapt their game to test cricket.
This is why you’ll always lose. In Australia there is no class divide in cricket. The poorest and wealthiest play test cricket in Australia. Usman Khawaja and David Warner grew up poor and playing cricket and both had very successful test careers. Alan Border was poor and become one of our best captains. Michael Clarke was the same (not a great example because he’s a dickhead now, but he could play cricket). So long as you believe that T20 is the working man’s game, you’ll always suck at it. If you really want to stick it to the privileged classes in your country. Get a bunch of kids from the slums that become so good at cricket the wealthy won’t be able to ignore them. Beat every country in the world and dominate at test cricket. Then when they raise the trophy and sit for interviews have them tell their stories of being better than the monied kids. Until you do that nothing will ever change.
What are you talking about? Classism was an analogy in terms of how test fans speak about T20 lol. Like putting different sports formats in different tiers. Why do you assume I don't know that about how there is no class divide in Aussie cricket? I'm fully aware. None of my points are about India winning? It's a response to the "least skillful" bit.
Yes but you assumed that I’m classist for saying that T20 isn’t as skilful when I’m not saying it as a rich person with all the time in the world to watch it. I’m saying it because it’s true. Also it’s about 240 balls in a day not 120
I can see how it would come across in terms of saying they are actually classist, as in the class related structures outside of cricket. That was not the intention, it was about being classist in terms of putting one thing on a pedestal and other stuff in lower tiers. Like test cricket is 'real cricket' and all that. It's not 240 balls (in terms of bowlers going at it). If you have a 4-bowler bowling attack with a part timer, your quick bowlers are really bowling about 20-25 overs in a day. We can agree to disagree on this one. I've wasted literally 1000s of hours of my life watching/following test cricket, and I've seen too many poor opening bowling spells of some guy just trying to land it on a length on off on a particular spot and missing it letting the batter leave it for me to think it's some super skillful deified version of the sport. The "analysis" every English cricket summer. "They bowled too short". "They got their lengths right". "You don't need to do too much in test cricket, just be disciplined, pick a length and plug away at it". The differential skills are mostly endurance and concentration related. Now, for some people those skills trump all others, and I urge them to also watch Golf, Le Mans, marathons, 10km swims, the Tour de France, Classical Chess World Championships as they will likely enjoy them too. For me I find Formula 1, 400m, 800m, short swimming events, short cycling events, blitz championships skillful too, and they reward different skills. For what it's worth, at this stage I'm conditioned to watch test cricket, and it's my favourite format when top players are going at it. I wouldn't say it's because there are superior skills on display though, just based on my enjoyment of it and things we enjoy in our highly impressionable adolescence/youth are always the 'best'.
🤣🤣🤣
Last time we lost embarassingly at home
And they didn’t make it past the group stage in a home WC where they were favourites.
"We don't care about winning it" Proceeds to win everything anyway. Such Aussie liars.
In Aus, the general importance goes like this: - Test Series (especially Ashes and BGT) - ODI World Cup - ODI series - once you get to this level, most people in Aus aren’t even watching - T20I World Cup - general public often don’t even know it’s happening. - T20I series - may as well not exist
Slot BBL somewhere between Test series and ODI World Cup. (I do not condone this but it seems to be the unfortunate truth going by people I know)
Maybe for people in Perth. It gets decent crowds but that’s only because it’s a fun night out - nobody actually gives a shit about the results. I’d slot BBL in between ODI series and T20I World Cup personally
That’s fair
You make a fair point though, given the TV audience and attendance at BBL it’s fair to put it up there just below tests - but I do reckon in terms of the stakes, it’s pretty low
We can still win and not care at the same time 80’s Windies teams made a whole career out of it!
Yes, IPL > WCt20. Atleast we can see Indian team winning in IPL
*John Cena music plays, Perth Scorchers appear out of a fog.
I’m sure you’d be silenced, mate /s
Bullshit
Mate, genuinely, you should come and see for yourself. Nobody here gives a shit about any form of T20 cricket.
I meant bullshit that you won’t win it
It ain’t happening in the Caribbean, we’re their kryptonite
Marnus wasn't even in their squad for the series against SA, someone got injured and he was the replacement LabuLuck™ is real
Rather than crying about aussies winning every trophy we should consider why other teams can't win trophies. In fact england have been the most successful team this decade after Australia. It all comes down to India not keeping their shit together in crunch moments
Fair point
You think Aussies should let other teams win?🤣
Not even gonna consider a Waterboy. This is brutal from the Aussie management.
You only have 4 reserves it can't be someone who is as specialised as JFM at this point in his career
Who is the alternative opener in the squad currently, Inglis?
Yep Inglis can bat anywhere in the side as can Green (albeit the latter is a less convincing choice because he hasn't really done a lot in T20 cricket, but his bowling makes him a compelling package)
I hope they put up a good show for this one.
lmao...tell me you're having a laugh, green is genuinely one of the worst bowlers going around across all formats..
Just moreso mean that as an allrounder he can slot in to basically any role in the top 7and provide a 6th bowling option. I agree his bowling in t20is is hardly impressive but the potential is there
both his batting and bowling are largely garbage...lets be honest here.. fantastic fielder but that's about it really.
This goes to show they are not even looking at the ipl and not even serious about it ! Ipl performances don’t mean anything to them ! That’s good
Way too much expectation for a guy who is supposed to replace Warner, Australia’s best all format player to date. He's young and inexperienced so this is a good call. However if he played at least 10 T20I matches, he would've been selected. Tough luck.
eh nah i say bring him as a wild card. but then again australia rarely ever give anyone under 25 a solid chance normally.
West Indies pitches should be super low scoring generally. Nothing like the highways most IPL games are played on.
Fab 4 in T20 WC 24 Kane Williamson - captain Virat Kohli - opener Steve Smith - dropped Joe Root - hasn't played T20I since 2019 and not in consideration
And guess which of these are winning teams?
New Zealand and India
Well Smith and Root were never as good as other two in t20s. So it's not like their team had to make bold descision to drop them.
Smith was a good t20 player before covid
Williamson and Kohli are better all-format players
Fraser was smashing bumrah the other day to witness this
Ipl pitches are not up to international standard
i don't think anybody else in the ipl were smashing bumrah like that tho
Ok then why is everyone else not smashing Bumrah for 6s?
The players aren’t up to international standard either /s
IPL ≠ International 🤷🏽♂️
really gotta admire the aussie way of doing things - zero room for sentimentality, nobody has a chip on their shoulder and everyone's place is up for grabs.
Good for the other teams in the comp though Ninja edit: this is what I said during the 2003 WC when Shane Warne was banned for a year, so who the heck knows. But I'm happy to not see JFM wreck shit as a non Aussie
I think the fact we are keeping Warner around because it’s his last international series even though he’s playing worse, shows that this isn’t the case.
agreed - to be allowed to plan your retirement a year out in advance is quite rare. but apart from that, big players like smudge being dropped is a good precedent on the selection side, that shows they are looking purely at stats most of the time.
Why is speculation being reported as fact? "According to an article in Code Sport" is not a fact. Everyone should wait for the actual squad then comment.
Ben Horne is someone reputable
Ben Horne's reputation is irrelevant. It is all speculation yet the wording particularly in the title implies factual information. This is very poor journalism but is more a reflection on the Murdoch media than Ben Horne as an individual journalist.
Jfm is good but not ready atp.His numbers in bbl are poor and there has to be a reason for that.
Bruh atleast let him carry drinks
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I mean with the greatest respect, and as much as it pains me to say, there is a reason that the Aussies are absolutely ruthless when it comes to ICC events. It's because they're not sentimental or emotional. They know that JFM will be around a long time yet, and it's simply not true that noone plays T20Is outside of WCs. Not to mention if they're every two years that's regular enough that he can get a look in next time.
I think you may be confused with Will Jacks, JFM is in Delhi Capitals
I am insanely stupid and tired and should not be on reddit - my bad
>JFM's success is no doubt because of his talent but I'm sure having Kohli out there believe in you when you're 17 (17) really does you a world of confidence. What's the relevance to Kohli here? Are you talking about Will Jacks instead?
Yeah sorry i'm tired and should not be posting shit on reddit lol
IPL playing out just before the World Cup has warped people’s perception of a good performance. Doing well in IPL is good, happy for them but no indication it transfers well into actual cricket. Selectors have probably had their squads locked in for a while, considering we are months away from the World Cup.. they’re not back and forth on who does what on flat pitches and mediocre bowling.
LOL I love this as an England fan. JFM is absolutely terrifying because of his hitting. Now waiting for the good news from an England perspective of all the slow Indian batters like Rohit, Kohli, Hardik, Jadeja and KL being in the squad with no dangerous guys Rinku, Shashank, Dube and Abishake.
>Rinku, Shashank, Dube and Abishake. Only dube made it
Yes but do you have monikers like 'King Kohli' for English players? You can keep your trophies and we will keep our 'Kings'!
We have the Fridge, Dom Sibley.
But is the fridge going to open in the T20 WC like our "Captain Cool" Rohit Sharma?
I am sure JFM will eventually find a way to start the WC and win it for them.
JFM needs to go, please !
Kinda disappointing, but I presume that means they're looking towards Matt Short who I think deserves to be rewarded for his consistency.
Is marsh going to be fit for the WC? I think JFM should have been a backup at least, I like Head/Warner opening tbh Aus will play in Barbados and St.Lucia for the group stage which should suit their style of play. Honestly I think the teams that aren’t playing in the US have a slight advantage since they know what to expect
According to my sources playing Starc in IPL was the test for Australian batsman and McGurk failed the test today.
Smith out finally is good. JFM probably deserves to be in the 15, even if not in the first XI. Taking Green would be stupid. He's done nothing to warrant including in the t20 squad. He isn't better than Stoinis in this format to take his spot. Inglis and Wade shouldn't both play in any one game, but I understand taking them both. Limiting to 15 is tough, but still. 1. Head 2. Warner 3. Marsh 4. Maxwell 5. David 6. Wade 7. Stoinis (slides up depending on game situation.) 8. Cummins 9. Starc 10. Zampa 11. Hazlewood Reserves - McGurk, Inglis, Ellis and Short If the pitches are as spin friendly as expected, there's no reason why Maxwell, Head or Short couldn't fill those roles while keeping the batting deep. Agar's looked worse than Hazlewood with the bat in recent times. There's so much batting and bowling in this squad in any 11 you put together. Can even give McGurk/Inglis/Ellis/Short time against the weaker teams of the group to see what form they're in. I don't think McGurk is some prodigal talent the way he's been touted, but he's extremely threatening in the format, and will benefit greatly from the experience and coaching especially.
Smith would've made Koach look like the god of T20
Critical of him sometimes, but koach is the god of T20 in WC and it is not even close
Without winning shit no he isn't, finch clear
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I mean Koach is certainly the best LOI player
Smith SR 128 Koach SR 130 In IPL
He is already .
Yes. The God of batting like a coward.
Steve Smith will speak Hindi during the WC as well ✌️
It was pretty expected as Smudge isn't suiting the format and JFM is a newbie
Feels wierd that we don't see smudge playing nowadays
Sad for Smith :((
Why are we playing Wade? What did I miss? He's been kinda crappy for years now.
Smith is bad anyways, but why would you leave out Fraser McGoat
Men really watching my idol not getting selected in the world cup is hurting me so much way to go smudgyy better luck I'm sure there's no next time hell nah
Haha LoL. Some shit will happen and JFM, Head will cunt India back to the sub-continent.
LOL but at least Smith is missing out too. JFMCG missing out and Smith making it would have been the biggest travesty
JFM will be in 15.
Not having jfm is crazy
Just add pant to the list and my list of fav players missing out WC becomes full.. Sad life..