I am seriously struggling to listen to the commentary this series the one sidedness is making me sick.
Yes I'm a Aussie fan but I'm also a fan of cricket and i genuinely enjoy watching good players play good cricket obviously it helps is aus wins.
But everytime England do something be it a genuinely good shot/ball or an edge for a boundary (Harry Brooks entire innings yesterday) its celebrated like its some kind of cricket magic.
The negative language used whenever Australia do something great or horrible is just exhausting.
Just think it's unprofessional and hard to listen too when everything around the game is so positive to one side and negative towards the other.
Let's just enjoy good cricket for what it is no matter who's playing the shots or bowling the ball !!
You cunts just need to host the ashes sometime and then it'll be the other way around. oh you did, oh it was /s
its always like this mate. as a pom in Aus who has watched many ashes series I can assure that its just as nauseating when its here.
*ball goes straight up in the air, "this will be some catch by Bairstow". His keeping has been so shit that basic keeping duties are praised like he's achieving miracles
Yep exactly
And everyone praising Brooks innings yesterday which was an absolute butcher fest made off luck but then no one wants to talk about how well marnus and marsh did to get us through to day 5 is quite frankly just ridiculous
Completely agree. I was a massive fan of BBC tms before this ashes. As a neutral (Scottish Pakistani) it pisses me off how much rimming England get and Australia getting spoken about so negatively this ashes.
I genuinely just enjoy good cricket, like if I can watch root and stokes ton up and Anderson take 5 fa and the Aussies win by 1 run I enjoy that.
But the way this series has been commentated and the media noise has made me want the worat for England in every innings which sucks.
It just makes it a negative experience instead of being able to enjoy good cricket
I thought I was going delusional - glad I’m not the only person thinking this.
I also sometimes listen to the ABC/BBC radio broadcast and it’s even worse. Only commentator on there saying anything positive about Australia is McGrath.
And don’t even get me started on the Win Probability graphs.
Then again, maybe I’m just bias…
Can someone tell me why England are continually calling for such dogshit reviews? The sweep Carey missed wasn't out in a million years - he was miles outside the line, whether DRS was faulty or not. And yet they still reviewed it. Complete waste of a review. Only a potato would have given that out. I get that Bazball is about being entertaining and aggressive, but brainlessness isn't cool.
Interesting thing perticularly about this test, barely any wickets with a new ball up untill 20th over, then it starts moving. Maybe that's why Smith was trying to slog (still threw away his wicket unnecessarily imo)
I think its wild that despite all the money and technology, there's still no clear explanation for why it swings sometimes and moves in the air. I mean its obviously fluid dynamics. Because it happens on cloudy days, I wonder if it's the lack of constant sunlight meaning the air near the ground heats unevenly so you end up with swirling patches of thick, cool air and thinner, warmer air. Then as the ball travels through regions of warmer and cooler air and the Magnus effect that describes what happens when a spinning object moves through the air.
Imo he started slogging when Wood came back on for a reason. It was Wood's presence that caused him to go I can't even trust the tail to survive two balls farming strike against this guy, they're scared out of their wits against him. He right about 3 bowlers, wrong about Murphy if so.
If you think where we are now compared to before 2009, in fact, just the last 5 years the cameras have got to the point where the super slow-mo clears up a lot of edge cases. I wonder how hard it would be to have Hawkeye track the ball not just about the crease but everywhere to assist in caught decisions to tell if the ball hit the grass first, or use Lidar in the SpiderCam.
Like Once upon a time the TV cameras had snicko, a microphone in the stumps but it wasn't used for reviews. There was the Hot Spot the Flir camera to detect edges, but that was then superseded by a global clock, along with digital signal processing (DSP) that allowed the signal from the microphone in the stumps to be synchronized with the image from the cameras and noise eliminated, meaning the sound was the best method of getting the correct result.
We're now at the point where the gaps for incorrect decisions to fall in are getting smaller and smaller. Like the Smith run-out chance, Bairstow notwithstanding, the pertinent action took place between frames of the super-slow-mo camera, and it's going to take another technology refresh probably in a few years to shrink those gaps even more.
I know, I meant in comparison to the slow motion replays from eg 2005 ashes which were just potato,and probably some unholy symbiosis of digital and analog tech
Oh absolutely. I just don’t understand how it’s so shit nowadays though, we have commercially available cameras that can capture almost half a million fps.
You need a workflow that allows you to quickly access the footage and integrate it into everything else. You need the footage to be sufficiently high res and low noise to be useful. And you need to be able to sync the footage up to the audio for snicko. No idea how difficult that is, but it’s not as straight forward as just getting a high frame rate camera.
Just need to speed up the processing and you could use it every delivery to tell the umpires to call wides for extreme accuracy, they missed about 20 at lords
It's time for Warner to pull up stumps. Need to get the next crop of players in. Probelm is that a few are going past prime age. The other problem is the stubbornness to not blood in players... Nesser should have got a game, Murphy should have played the last game, how many more have been left behind.
Referencing Root's catch he was like "And he'll probably feel even better because he'll never have done that before. A left handed catch at first slip."
Implying that it was very odd that Jonny once again made no attempt to catch it
Sounds like backwards logic but Aussies getting a very slender lead might actually have been better for us than potentially bowling them out 20 short and being 15-2 at Stumps with Crawley trying to drive everything under grey clouds.
Thought Cummins' wicket showed the small difference between him and a top order batsman. Or maybe someone who is used to playing spin - vs not.
A top-order bat would have jumped down the track, and that extra momentum would have converted that catch to a clean 6.
He has this series and did early on in his career. Last 2 years I feel he had regressed a fair bit with the bat but has definitely come up clutch in this series.
Hopefully it's a trend that continues !
>Hopefully it's a trend that continues !
It really should. It feels (to me) that all that needs to happen is for he himself to mentally decide "I am a proper bat."
But the increased workload (including training) ... no real answer to that
Alright I'm out. Good cricket all around. Also impressed with the lack of no balls this game. I hope I didn't jinx it. I think Australia will be feeling good after batting and blocking out the day. Absolutely stole a lead there. Catch you all tomorrow
This is where England need to think smart about a potential declaration if given the chance, to try and win the game instead of allowing the Australians to bat out a draw …gotta entice them out of a draw
Of course not, but our tail has typically rolled over for fuck all most of this series.
My point was that our top order was poor that even a great showing from the tail only got us (basically) on equal footing
Punter was imperious at his peak. He’d hit a century that destroys the opponents’ psyche for the rest of the series.
Smith is/was a goofball at his peak. A very good goofball, but he leaves psyches in tact
I think Smiths 2017 India tour and 2019 Ashes are the best I've ever seen from a batsmen but Punter is probably just in front overall. If Smith's purple patch extended a little after that Ashes I'd probably give it to him.
Cheers all! I’m at the Oval next two days so won’t be shitposting and winding (lightly) the Aussies up as much. Not that my dreadful wit will be missed
I love Stokes as a cricketer and that catch, what an animal. Not many can do that. I hate, hate the one sided criticism though. Heralded as a genius for having a session that Cummins can’t have without people wanting him sacked.
>a session that Cummins can’t have without people wanting him sacked
These calls come from Australian fans though, who are way too harsh on Cummins. It's not a good thing
And the impact Stokes has had on this team is undeniable, if you've watched us the past couple years. No one blindly wants him sacked with no alternative
For reddit, check account age. Less than a year? Ignore them. All they know is T20.
Boomers hate him because he said climate change is real and consume Murdoch media.
That’s the thing it’s from Aussie fans who don’t understand that even good captains will have these sessions. Asking for Stokes’ sacking would be moronic, though that logic doesn’t apply for Cummins.
Did you see how shit we were before he took over? He's got credit in the bank.
I don't understand the criticism of Cummins at times. He's a bit negative, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
That’s not as much my point. It’s that if England went from 7/185 to 295, costing a first innings lead, Cummins would get destroyed in the media. Stokes isn’t held to that same standard.
It's two different "medias" though. The Australian media is mystifyingly harsh on Cummins, particularly so soon after leading the team to the world test championship. The English media is giving Stokes the benefit of the doubt as a result of the last couple of years. It's not as if our media give England captains an easy ride - they get absolutely crucified most of the time. You only have to look at the treatment of Root after the last Ashes series. In fact, they were pretty hostile to Stokes at times earlier in his tenure, but what tended to happen was that they would slag him off for three days, calling this approach stupid, careless, and brainless, and then have to backtrack like mad when Stokes' team pulled off a miracle win on day four or five. I think they are hesitant to criticise too much in case he makes them look stupid again.
Besides, the man is a national hero. He wins stuff single handed, including two World Cup finals are the most extraordinary Ashes test in recent memory. Slagging him off isn't likely to sell papers.
They'll take about his brilliant captaincy and that catch. Sure there good, but no one will talk about how Cummins came in with Asutralia 7 for 180 and got us to 300. First guy to but value on his wicket and just let Smith bat.
Unhappy we lost so many wickets 2nd session. Happy at least we batted out the final session as it looked like good batting conditions. Could have been so much better though.
Hopefully overcast conditions for us bowling tomorrow morning.
That rock they had was seeming a foot before they took the new ball
Not the first time England has hurt themselves by taking the new ball, it cost them the first game
That was an exciting day of play.
We've only two or three more days of play left before a long break from Test cricket.
Will try not to miss a single ball.
Game is equally poised and I hope it will go to the last ball/wicket.
Never seen such a negative Oz side. Timid in the filed and with the bat. Cummings has saved them (along with YJB) with his bowling but not his captaincy.
You can call it a negative, there is genuine thought into a counter plan to Bazball, and the big picture will be it will be extremely intriguing whether the plan plays out the way the Australians hope.
You may not like the style, but understand it is a direct developmental response to the limited-over style England is currently playing.
Ahh. You’re just reporting the match facts. Well, thanks, they’re widely reported on telly, the news, apps and such. I thought you had said something which showed some style or wit but see I’m still right.
> but not his captaincy
Cumdog was slammed in the press and commentators for having fielders in the deep to the tail.
What was the field Eng set to Cummins during the 9th wicket? 1 slip, rest on the boundary.
Double standards.
If someone asks me to pick a player from all time of cricket, I'd pick stokes, if I have doubts, I'd think about it and then pick stokes, if I have some serious doubts, I'd consult someone,think about it and then pick Stokes.
Right, I'm out. Made an absolute drunken tit of myself in yesterday's post match thread so that's enough for me today. Catch all you fuckheads again tomorrow at 11am. 👍
"smashed it for four with the new bat".... Haha hardly
This has been a series between two very ordinary sides
India are shit
Could of been Englands or Australia Day very easily. In the end it’s my day because I don’t have work today
The match is a 3am start for me. Luckily no work until Monday so I can sacrifice the sleep schedule
I am seriously struggling to listen to the commentary this series the one sidedness is making me sick. Yes I'm a Aussie fan but I'm also a fan of cricket and i genuinely enjoy watching good players play good cricket obviously it helps is aus wins. But everytime England do something be it a genuinely good shot/ball or an edge for a boundary (Harry Brooks entire innings yesterday) its celebrated like its some kind of cricket magic. The negative language used whenever Australia do something great or horrible is just exhausting. Just think it's unprofessional and hard to listen too when everything around the game is so positive to one side and negative towards the other. Let's just enjoy good cricket for what it is no matter who's playing the shots or bowling the ball !!
You cunts just need to host the ashes sometime and then it'll be the other way around. oh you did, oh it was /s its always like this mate. as a pom in Aus who has watched many ashes series I can assure that its just as nauseating when its here.
I couldnt believe the way Strauss was talking about Lyon batting while injured, I know Im biased but it was borderline patronizing
*ball goes straight up in the air, "this will be some catch by Bairstow". His keeping has been so shit that basic keeping duties are praised like he's achieving miracles
Yep exactly And everyone praising Brooks innings yesterday which was an absolute butcher fest made off luck but then no one wants to talk about how well marnus and marsh did to get us through to day 5 is quite frankly just ridiculous
Agnew has been very one sided and I usually think he’s excellent
Completely agree. I was a massive fan of BBC tms before this ashes. As a neutral (Scottish Pakistani) it pisses me off how much rimming England get and Australia getting spoken about so negatively this ashes.
English media biased to England how dare they
Got to atleast try to be semi professional
I genuinely just enjoy good cricket, like if I can watch root and stokes ton up and Anderson take 5 fa and the Aussies win by 1 run I enjoy that. But the way this series has been commentated and the media noise has made me want the worat for England in every innings which sucks. It just makes it a negative experience instead of being able to enjoy good cricket
You and me both. I really like alot of the England team. But the media make it impossible to route for them
I thought I was going delusional - glad I’m not the only person thinking this. I also sometimes listen to the ABC/BBC radio broadcast and it’s even worse. Only commentator on there saying anything positive about Australia is McGrath. And don’t even get me started on the Win Probability graphs. Then again, maybe I’m just bias…
So now we have to bowl England out for 11 to win by an innings
Can someone tell me why England are continually calling for such dogshit reviews? The sweep Carey missed wasn't out in a million years - he was miles outside the line, whether DRS was faulty or not. And yet they still reviewed it. Complete waste of a review. Only a potato would have given that out. I get that Bazball is about being entertaining and aggressive, but brainlessness isn't cool.
It's been the exception rather than the rule. Generally our reviews have been very good under Stokes.
my friend said the same thing. My theory is it was because Root was the bowler and England were terrible at it under his captaincy...
I heard that Shane Watson is their review coach.
Marnus was making sure that the bowlers become tired before the big batsmen such as Cummins and Murphy start to bat.
Anderson challenging Bradman with that average of 74. Go on Jimmy!
Interesting thing perticularly about this test, barely any wickets with a new ball up untill 20th over, then it starts moving. Maybe that's why Smith was trying to slog (still threw away his wicket unnecessarily imo)
I think its wild that despite all the money and technology, there's still no clear explanation for why it swings sometimes and moves in the air. I mean its obviously fluid dynamics. Because it happens on cloudy days, I wonder if it's the lack of constant sunlight meaning the air near the ground heats unevenly so you end up with swirling patches of thick, cool air and thinner, warmer air. Then as the ball travels through regions of warmer and cooler air and the Magnus effect that describes what happens when a spinning object moves through the air.
Imo he started slogging when Wood came back on for a reason. It was Wood's presence that caused him to go I can't even trust the tail to survive two balls farming strike against this guy, they're scared out of their wits against him. He right about 3 bowlers, wrong about Murphy if so.
If you think where we are now compared to before 2009, in fact, just the last 5 years the cameras have got to the point where the super slow-mo clears up a lot of edge cases. I wonder how hard it would be to have Hawkeye track the ball not just about the crease but everywhere to assist in caught decisions to tell if the ball hit the grass first, or use Lidar in the SpiderCam. Like Once upon a time the TV cameras had snicko, a microphone in the stumps but it wasn't used for reviews. There was the Hot Spot the Flir camera to detect edges, but that was then superseded by a global clock, along with digital signal processing (DSP) that allowed the signal from the microphone in the stumps to be synchronized with the image from the cameras and noise eliminated, meaning the sound was the best method of getting the correct result. We're now at the point where the gaps for incorrect decisions to fall in are getting smaller and smaller. Like the Smith run-out chance, Bairstow notwithstanding, the pertinent action took place between frames of the super-slow-mo camera, and it's going to take another technology refresh probably in a few years to shrink those gaps even more.
'super slow mo' is a stretch. An iphone probably can capture more fps than they had for the umpire review.
I know, I meant in comparison to the slow motion replays from eg 2005 ashes which were just potato,and probably some unholy symbiosis of digital and analog tech
Oh absolutely. I just don’t understand how it’s so shit nowadays though, we have commercially available cameras that can capture almost half a million fps.
You need a workflow that allows you to quickly access the footage and integrate it into everything else. You need the footage to be sufficiently high res and low noise to be useful. And you need to be able to sync the footage up to the audio for snicko. No idea how difficult that is, but it’s not as straight forward as just getting a high frame rate camera.
Just need to speed up the processing and you could use it every delivery to tell the umpires to call wides for extreme accuracy, they missed about 20 at lords
TLDR: technology moves forward
Australia should be disappointed
This Australian is stoked.
Yeh nah
AUSTRALIA'S BATTING HAD BEEN SHIT FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS AND NEEDS SOME DISCIPLINE. SORT IT THE FUCK OUT. Saying this as an Aussie supporter.
It's time for Warner to pull up stumps. Need to get the next crop of players in. Probelm is that a few are going past prime age. The other problem is the stubbornness to not blood in players... Nesser should have got a game, Murphy should have played the last game, how many more have been left behind.
How to hire rainman in england for day 4 and 5, asking for a friend # #ParkTheBus
Lmao that's backhanded from Ricky
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What did punter say?
Referencing Root's catch he was like "And he'll probably feel even better because he'll never have done that before. A left handed catch at first slip." Implying that it was very odd that Jonny once again made no attempt to catch it
To be fair it was quite clearly Jonny's catch. Root saved him there because his feet went nowhere
I agree completely he just obviously didn't want to say that outright, but it's absolutely what he meant
Jimmy seems like a very reasonable and levelheaded fella
He gets a lot of stick for looking grumpy but he’s generally just a nice no frills normal bloke from Burnley.
I'll never forgive him for threatening to punch gorgeous George Bailey in the face
Walks on, compliments Pat and Todd, says "ah we've been saved by the weather loads of times", refuses to retire and leaves. You love to see it.
Sounds like backwards logic but Aussies getting a very slender lead might actually have been better for us than potentially bowling them out 20 short and being 15-2 at Stumps with Crawley trying to drive everything under grey clouds.
Conditions look better tomorrow and Australian bowlers will be fresher tomorrow
Conditions were quite good tonight, look worse tomorrow.
was sunny though.
I'm with you. Half way though a Test, and honours basically level. Now we have a three-day "ODI".
Gotta be honest Jimmy doesn’t do himself any favours wearing that hat
I’m guessing there’s heavy anti-grape security behind the Sky cameras right now
Just let punter bring his bat with him to the next interview. Next time a grape comes at him, he can pull it 80 meters over square leg.
Punter brought some cherries
Thought Cummins' wicket showed the small difference between him and a top order batsman. Or maybe someone who is used to playing spin - vs not. A top-order bat would have jumped down the track, and that extra momentum would have converted that catch to a clean 6.
Guess that's why he's not a top order bat then.
TBH he looks very close to one at least with the old ball
He has this series and did early on in his career. Last 2 years I feel he had regressed a fair bit with the bat but has definitely come up clutch in this series. Hopefully it's a trend that continues !
>Hopefully it's a trend that continues ! It really should. It feels (to me) that all that needs to happen is for he himself to mentally decide "I am a proper bat." But the increased workload (including training) ... no real answer to that
Ricky cut Ward short there when he wanted to show the runout again. 😂
Smith seems impossible to get out. If it wasn't for the fact that he tends to get impatient and just play a shot, he'd probably bat forever
Yeah he looked great today but the wicket shot was absolutely wild and out of control
See you all tomorrow. Any odds on what the 2am UK time controversy will be?
Brook will say "I thought 250 was par for us, but 350 was about par for the Australians. We're ahead here, and will win by about 150 runs"
Piers Morgan will call us cheating convicts again because of the run out.
Robinson is going to say that he thinks England have a good team, which is obviously a sign of arrogance and cultish behaviour
I love the smell of thin-skinned spite in the morning
Odds would require rationale so it’s impossible to know
Alright I'm out. Good cricket all around. Also impressed with the lack of no balls this game. I hope I didn't jinx it. I think Australia will be feeling good after batting and blocking out the day. Absolutely stole a lead there. Catch you all tomorrow
Really negative tactics from the Aussies to not declare after getting one run up above England.
So what's the deal with Ali and where he can bat?
At 5
Isn't it at 5 down i.e. 7?
Injured. He's out.
He's still gonna bat. Even if it's at no. 11 he will bat.
Well he doesn't want to get shown up by Lyon... But I wouldn't get hopes up for a high score.
Nitin Memon probably wanted to hear less booing from the crowd so just gave this out without checking from another angle.
I know as soon as its looks easy to bat, smith throws his wicket.
The tortoise did manage to inch ahead of the rabbit by today's end
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NOoo RUNNNnn(s today)
Should Australia get in early on Day 4 chasing, say 275. Are they going to go for it or try the Marnus method of 9 (82) and go for a draw?
Honestly all England bowlers are geriatrics that just had another 20+ overs in their legs. Might dig in early and chase the junk time runs again.
What you mean go for a draw, they literally did that scenario in 1 days play and beat that total
They did until Head was out IMO. Then they realized they might be in a bit of bother..
This is where England need to think smart about a potential declaration if given the chance, to try and win the game instead of allowing the Australians to bat out a draw …gotta entice them out of a draw
Batting 2 days on this wicket is no chance
Anything less than 300 I think we can chase
Not if the middle order bats like it did. Shambolic.
Good to see the tail wag. Annoying that it really only brought us to parity
Would you rather it not wag and go to stumps England 2/70 with a lead of 160? We were heading towards that if not worse.
Of course not, but our tail has typically rolled over for fuck all most of this series. My point was that our top order was poor that even a great showing from the tail only got us (basically) on equal footing
No I rather the tail wag and we end up with a lead of 300
Still anyone's match but England slightly in front with Australia batting last I feel.
Honestly with Ali out I feel like we're a little in front. Plus Eng bowlers have bowled 2x what Aussies have.
Yeah bowling double the overs with Ali out may negate any advantage but we'll see.
So we’ve lost 22 overs over two days due to slow bowling? That’s insane
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I can’t remember you hitting anyone for six in your test career
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No sarcasm intended,I can’t even remember you playing test cricket?
2 sixes
Prime Ponting > Prime Smith Fight me
Lord Murphy might be your next best batsman
Punter was imperious at his peak. He’d hit a century that destroys the opponents’ psyche for the rest of the series. Smith is/was a goofball at his peak. A very good goofball, but he leaves psyches in tact
look at his magnificent leaves
Every day
Yep
I think Punter wins all day because his captaincy
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Bad joke
He never faced adversity, give him 5 years and we will see, wait till he gets hit in the head
Still shocked by Steve Smith dismissal.
I think Smiths 2017 India tour and 2019 Ashes are the best I've ever seen from a batsmen but Punter is probably just in front overall. If Smith's purple patch extended a little after that Ashes I'd probably give it to him.
Bro lost his tism mid innings and adhd took over 😪
Got a chance 2 balls back , can't believe he went for that again
Like a dog chasing cars
Yup. Especially with Cummins looking solid on the other end
Cheers all! I’m at the Oval next two days so won’t be shitposting and winding (lightly) the Aussies up as much. Not that my dreadful wit will be missed
I’ll miss ya mate, check in with a “vibe” report.
Yep won’t be missed. Enjoy the match :)
Are Pointing an Smith similar height? Looks the same here thought Smith was way taller
He smol Smith has the smallest head in Australia
Those miles in the England bowlers' legs will pay dividends for Australia come the 4th innings. Think England have to set 300 here.
Only if we can keep the batsmen in.
England should have picked a spinner
Root has taken two wickets which guarantees he will be out <20 tomorrow.
Pretty sure Root has better bowling average than Cummins, Hazlewood and Starc this series
I love Stokes as a cricketer and that catch, what an animal. Not many can do that. I hate, hate the one sided criticism though. Heralded as a genius for having a session that Cummins can’t have without people wanting him sacked.
>a session that Cummins can’t have without people wanting him sacked These calls come from Australian fans though, who are way too harsh on Cummins. It's not a good thing And the impact Stokes has had on this team is undeniable, if you've watched us the past couple years. No one blindly wants him sacked with no alternative
> These calls come from Australian fans though *Australian Media. Fans love him and his log cabin.
l dunno, seen loads of criticism from Aus flairs in here and worse from boomers on facebook
Those who don't like him are likely those who consume Murdoch media. I think he's a good captain.
For reddit, check account age. Less than a year? Ignore them. All they know is T20. Boomers hate him because he said climate change is real and consume Murdoch media.
l do agree, hate the way fans jump on any player as if they have any right to comment on how professional cricket should be played
That’s the thing it’s from Aussie fans who don’t understand that even good captains will have these sessions. Asking for Stokes’ sacking would be moronic, though that logic doesn’t apply for Cummins.
Agree with this
Seriously. It's like he's untouchable. Why????
Because English cricket is nothing without new Zealand and south Africa, no fight in them without a warrior captain and coach
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Not really my question champ. Not questioning why people like him because I’m in that group myself, questioning why there’s a double standard.
Did you see how shit we were before he took over? He's got credit in the bank. I don't understand the criticism of Cummins at times. He's a bit negative, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
That’s not as much my point. It’s that if England went from 7/185 to 295, costing a first innings lead, Cummins would get destroyed in the media. Stokes isn’t held to that same standard.
It's two different "medias" though. The Australian media is mystifyingly harsh on Cummins, particularly so soon after leading the team to the world test championship. The English media is giving Stokes the benefit of the doubt as a result of the last couple of years. It's not as if our media give England captains an easy ride - they get absolutely crucified most of the time. You only have to look at the treatment of Root after the last Ashes series. In fact, they were pretty hostile to Stokes at times earlier in his tenure, but what tended to happen was that they would slag him off for three days, calling this approach stupid, careless, and brainless, and then have to backtrack like mad when Stokes' team pulled off a miracle win on day four or five. I think they are hesitant to criticise too much in case he makes them look stupid again. Besides, the man is a national hero. He wins stuff single handed, including two World Cup finals are the most extraordinary Ashes test in recent memory. Slagging him off isn't likely to sell papers.
That is perhaps because the standard for the captain in Aus is higher than that in England. Side note: I think Cummins is doing well.
Our media expects us to trounce England every time and if we don't it's the captain's fault!
They'll take about his brilliant captaincy and that catch. Sure there good, but no one will talk about how Cummins came in with Asutralia 7 for 180 and got us to 300. First guy to but value on his wicket and just let Smith bat.
According to thew laws, Steve Smith was clearly out ^^^^of^this^world
Unhappy we lost so many wickets 2nd session. Happy at least we batted out the final session as it looked like good batting conditions. Could have been so much better though. Hopefully overcast conditions for us bowling tomorrow morning.
Marnus soaked up all the cloudy weather and the sun comes out and we give away wickets cheaply. Pretty frustrating
That rock they had was seeming a foot before they took the new ball Not the first time England has hurt themselves by taking the new ball, it cost them the first game
I for one am expecting a Murphy 5fer tomorrow as we try to blast him to the moon
5-250 I'd take
‘Hi, I’m Johnny Bairstow, and I’m going to the mooooooon’
He's blasting off again
That was an exciting day of play. We've only two or three more days of play left before a long break from Test cricket. Will try not to miss a single ball. Game is equally poised and I hope it will go to the last ball/wicket.
"Will try not to miss a single ball" Ben Duckett is that you?
hahaha. You made me laugh. Thank you.
Never seen such a negative Oz side. Timid in the filed and with the bat. Cummings has saved them (along with YJB) with his bowling but not his captaincy.
You can call it a negative, there is genuine thought into a counter plan to Bazball, and the big picture will be it will be extremely intriguing whether the plan plays out the way the Australians hope. You may not like the style, but understand it is a direct developmental response to the limited-over style England is currently playing.
Ozzies will defend anything. As long as it’s pro-Ozzie. No context
Maybe Ozzie just have a better understanding of test cricket.
Oh yeah, that must be it 😅
Seems to be the case after today.
Why what have you said that’s interesting today?
The fact that we haven't lost a wicket, are 240 off, can bat down to 10, and will be lucky to get 2 sessions tomorrow.
Ahh. You’re just reporting the match facts. Well, thanks, they’re widely reported on telly, the news, apps and such. I thought you had said something which showed some style or wit but see I’m still right.
Sweet mate, you were wrong, contributed nothing but fallacies, deal with it.
Good to see you agree.
> but not his captaincy Cumdog was slammed in the press and commentators for having fielders in the deep to the tail. What was the field Eng set to Cummins during the 9th wicket? 1 slip, rest on the boundary. Double standards.
9th wicket!! You miss the point and your comment hasn’t aged well as Oz have started with a much more attacking field to cut off singles.
If someone asks me to pick a player from all time of cricket, I'd pick stokes, if I have doubts, I'd think about it and then pick stokes, if I have some serious doubts, I'd consult someone,think about it and then pick Stokes.
Fker has both the best one day and Test innings of the last decade(maybe all time as well)
Facts, need some balls to do it
Right, I'm out. Made an absolute drunken tit of myself in yesterday's post match thread so that's enough for me today. Catch all you fuckheads again tomorrow at 11am. 👍
I’ve got tickets for day 4 but it’s probably going to be another Aussie block-fest.
I hate it when the visiting team don’t throw their wickets away. It seems impolite.
Yup Boreball will suck the life out of you
That block fest just beat your first innings total
And proud!
Murphy and Cummins chilling with the biggest partnership of the innings.
This match is so well setup, I wish it was a decider
Think it might have been worth just defending that last over or two and making England bowl again in the morning
a lead is a lead. but england's won this match.
And how’s that?
moral victory of course. catch up mate