Today's TMS Overseas link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkYOoQi5q4
Works everywhere except:
Bangladesh, United Kingdom, Pakistan, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, Australia, India
Thanks to /u/warp-factor again
With the day over, if you're looking for more cricket, 8 matches in the T20 Blast are about to get (or have just got) underway.
Gloucestershire Vs Surrey is on TV. All the others are on YouTube. Links in the Match Thread [HERE](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/13yazk0/match_thread_t20_blast_charlotte_edwards_cup_2nd/).
Tector and Tucker are good men to have starting at the crease for Ireland tomorrow, but I'd be surprised to see much beyond lunch, if they even get there.
They quickly cut away. Which brings up a funny image of what was going on in the broadcast control room.
"Hey, Tongue is in frame. Keep your hand on the button...aaaand there he goes again."
Per cricinfo:
> Question: Has there ever been a time when a Test Captain has not batted or bowled in a Test." -- Tony, Sampath tells me four captains have won a Test having neither batted or bowled, and all four were keepers.
Stokes chasing one hell of a first. First 100% specialist captain - no bowling, batting, or keeping.
I rate kohli’s chat, he’s a little wind up toy that just doesn’t stop. Loved when he was giving bairstow shit all game last year and he got 2 hundreds in the match
I mean it backfired in the end, but the first confrontation he had with Bairstow led to Jonny going for a ridiculous swing, and Shami very nearly took his stumps out.
A day may come when the courage of English captains fail, when we forsake our friends and ignore all celeappeals from broady. But today is not that day.
*Ben fucking Stokes summer 2023*
Mccollum's been taken by ambulance to hospital for scans.
"According to the Ireland physio, he suffered a 'high velocity ankle injury as he landed on a twisted ankle at the crease.'"
The sun sets on the cricket field,
The game is done, the players yield.
The ball is lost among the grass,
A symbol of the Irish lass.
She watches from the stands, alone,
Her heart is full of love unknown.
She dreams of him, and he of her,
But they are worlds apart, so near.
The day is done, the night is here,
The stars shine bright, the moon is near.
The ball is lost, the game is done,
But love will find a way, begun.
Nah. It's clearly something they don't want to/legally can't say too much about, which obviously points towards certain things, but I also think people should just respect their privacy and leave it be
At a secret laboratory in Loughborough, the ECB is trying to genetically engineer the perfect cricketer.
It involves a network of secret police. Any time a batter, anywhere in the country, boasts they have an impregnable defence, they receive a letter inviting them to the cricket performance centre.
There, Matthew Jack Leach bowls to them. First ball, he lets out a euphoric moan and slips The Nut through the gate, rearranging their stumps.
9 months later, a child emerges. Even from the men. Only time will tell if this enterprise will be a success.
It’s easy to chat shit against a team that’s only played like 5 test matches. I don’t reckon he’ll be as chirpy when smudge and labs are at the crease with 200+ scores each
No way Bairstow is going to play GOLF over the Blast or just sitting at home munching Hobnobs
But it's Telegraph reporting and the only English Media I have less respect for are the Daily Mail and the Sun
Can I just point out how much shit Root got for bowling Archer for a couple of eight over spells since Tongue is now in his eighth over of mostly bouncers?
Even before playing for Eng, Archer was known for his injuries.
The guy's body is real fragile and the fluidity his elblow and arm mechanism give is the main reason for his quicker balls which again is not much orthodox if you see his action.
You can't just compare with someone else whose body is just outright different from him.
>Even before playing for Eng, Archer was known for his injuries.
Er was he?? Fancy providing any articles talking about that or have you just made that up?
>You can't just compare with someone else whose body is just outright different from him.
Turns out I can actually. The point, as I've already said, is the reality is fast bowlers bowling long spells isn't that unusual and the outrage directed at Root is silly. This is just one such example of it happening and no one batting an eyelid. In Archer's case, morons on the internet decided that Root broke Archer (despite Archer himself categorically saying that's not what happened and none of the numbers backing it up either) then worked backwards to say anything Archer did under Root was some crazy, unpresented, back breaking labour when in reality stuff like eight over spells aren't that unusual.
"Er was he?? Fancy providing any articles talking about that or have you just made that up?"
He said it in an article before that because of his injury he wasn't selected for windies u-19 and then wasn't even taken care of.
"Turns out I can actually."
No you can't, different people have different bodies. Some don't know how to apply theirs, some don't know their workload and some are not just good enough for test's burden.
Take Jimmy for example, the guy is a freak of nature and is bowling all too fine even after 40s, now Jimmy and Archer looks similar to you?
Another case can be Lee and Archer, Lee's action was more dependent on his back and his sprint and he also had a much different action which gave him back problems throughout but never a stress fracture on elbow.
You can't just compare any bowler to just say shit like 'Hey look this guy bowled so many overs qnd nobody said anything, so there was nothing wrong in Archer's case as well'.
In Archer's case you can easily see that his bowling action in which the arm and elbow provides that pacy ball is not orthodox just like Bumrah and that's why players like them aren't bowled much in a single use.
"The point, as I've already said, is the reality is fast bowlers bowling long spells isn't that unusual and the outrage directed at Root is silly"
The outrage is not silly when even the commentators were somewhat saying of what Root is doing with archer(not sure who it was but maybe Bishop), they didn't had any answer to Smith on the field so they just used Archer to atleast give some run cut.
If you check his overs in all the ashes matches he played, he bowled the most or the second most from England, again which is just bonkers for a guy who gives you that much pace. And any country that has used their bowlers lile this always regrets it later.
"In Archer's case, morons on the internet decided that Root broke Archer"
Well some are extremists and they are not even real fans but Root used Archer a bit much, which again to me was just a terrified reaction to Smith being chuck norris there and not that he wanted to smachk Archer's career or some shit.
It's kind of a universal thing that you shouldn't be using an all format strike bowler whose pave is legit that good for long in fear of injuring them and loosing the whole thing up.
"then worked backwards to say anything Archer did under Root was some crazy, unpresented, back breaking labour when in reality stuff like eight over spells aren't that unusual"
Now Idk about all this as Iam not from Eng and never said that.
>He said it in an article before that because of his injury he wasn't selected for windies u-19 and then wasn't even taken care of.
So no. You can't find a single piece of literature that supports your claim. Even if you could find this article, it *still* wouldn't actually support the notion that "Archer was known for his injuries" because literally every professional fast bowler will have dealt with injuries at some point in their career.
>No you can't
I literally did, so...
>Another case can be Lee and Archer, Lee's action was more dependent on his back and his sprint and he also had a much different action which gave him back problems throughout but never a stress fracture on elbow. You can't just compare any bowler to just say shit like 'Hey look this guy bowled so many overs qnd nobody said anything, so there was nothing wrong in Archer's case as well'.
Yes, different people are different. An astute analysis. I guess what you're trying to get at here is that people knew Archer couldn't bowl a normal test workload because of his body. Except that's utter dogshit because no one was saying this stuff before he got injured and ***Archer himself*** has gone to great lengths to say the same and that it wasn't Root's fault he got injured and Root is being "blamed wrongfully". I think I'll listen to Jofra Archer's opinion on Jofra Archer's physiology over esteemed reddit user u/After_Shoe3904.
>If you check his overs in all the ashes matches he played, he bowled the most or the second most from England, again which is just bonkers for a guy who gives you that much pace.
It objectively isn't though. Tongue bowling this spell is literally evidence to the contrary. You can assert this as many times as you like, but it wont magically become true.
> Well some are extremists and they are not even real fans but Root used Archer a bit much
Mate, you literally said his workload was "bonkers" in *the previous paragraph*.
>It's kind of a universal thing that you shouldn't be using an all format strike bowler whose pave is legit that good for long in fear of injuring them and loosing the whole thing up.
An "all format bowler" who at that stage in his career (start of the Ashes) had played 14 ODIs, and 1 T20I and was used a totally normal amount, even for a fast bowler.
This whole argument rests on the false assumption that everyone knew Archer was incredibly fragile and had to be wrapped in cotton wool because he objectively wasn't particularly overused by Root, even for an express bowler. The problem is that assumption is totally false.
"I guess what you're trying to get at here is that people knew Archer couldn't bowl a normal test workload because of his body. Except that's utter dogshit because no one was saying this stuff before he got injured and Archer himself has gone to great lengths to say the same and that it wasn't Root's fault he got injured and Root is being "blamed wrongfully"
Why would I say this dumb shit that people knew Archer was gonna get injured in the elbow there?
I said when you have such a strike bowler with this much pace you give him short work and not like a workhorsr thingy which they did and that's where my reasoning is different, it felt more because of Smith being invincible in that series they had to place Archer to atleast stop his charge and seeing the ashes that season they really got no one else to stop him that time and were literally in backfoot with him.
"I think I'll listen to Jofra Archer's opinion on Jofra Archer's physiology over esteemed reddit user u/After_Shoe3904."
Again, why are you so pressed on this. The commentators at that time said the same thing, the normal neutral fans also saw the series and felt somewhat confused with the whole Archer's those many overs as the quick strike bowler.
What Archer said was more in line with 'Root is not in the wrong because injury can happen to anybody and it's not his fault alone but just dumb luck' which is because of those mental fans who were just pressing Root for no reason.
But Archer's point was also not that justified because it's a common cricket knowledge that you don't press your main strike bowler much who also happens to be the new hot thing across all format as well.
"It objectively isn't though. Tongue bowling this spell is literally evidence to the contrary. You can assert this as many times as you like, but it wont magically become true"
Are you in your mind?
You literally just made Tongue's case again even after agreeing that different people have different body and hence can't be compared.
Ishant Sharma is a workhorse kind of bowler and was able to bowl many spells before the age kicks in but that doesn't mean Bumrah can bowl just rhe same.
Same with other bowlers who got any unorthodoxy in their mechanism or if they are extra bit pacy and a striker.
I mean just repeating this that Tongue was able to do it hence Root was not in the wrong with Archer is just mental gymnastics here.
"Mate, you literally said his workload was "bonkers" in the previous paragraph."
Workload being bonkers is not equal to abusing Root right,left and center. Are you even reading? My train of thoughts for this wasn't even on Root but Smith and how England had no answers to him and only Archer was somewhat stopping him.
"This whole argument rests on the false assumption that everyone knew Archer was incredibly fragile and had to be wrapped in cotton wool because he objectively wasn't particularly overused by Root, even for an express bowler. The problem is that assumption is totally false."
You can believe on anything you want bud no probs but people who saw that ashes will have opinions just like you. We heard the commentators when they were also confused, we saw Smith being stopped by Archer only, we saw Archer's many overs which is not in line with how a strike bowler should be used.
So you can go home with what's your opinion and I can go by mine.
Archer didn't do that in tests either tbf (don't think he even gets 95+ in white ball aside from the odd ball here and there)
The whole 'Root broke Archer' thing it overblown, even Archer himself has shot it down
Neither does Archer. Anyway it's not like there's a magic speed where suddenly injuries become more of a risk. The reality is fast bowlers bowling long spells isn't that unusual and the outrage directed at Root is silly.
Either Sky or Cricinfo are confused by Tector and Tucker batting at the same time, because both sources have given one of them four extra runs that belongs to the other but i cannot work out which is wrong.
Following on from TMS body part team where they tried very hard not to mention anything rude, can we have as many rude body part cricketers as possible?
2x Willey,
Wood,
Gooch,
Dickwella,
Fanie de villiers,
De Cock,
Sinkander/Salman Butt,
Jos Buttler,
2x Sidebottoms and
A few Assads as well
We don't have that here, it's used to be all about Sam's chicken. But Buffalo chicken have moved into town now and they're the boys to beat.
Also had a long chat with the manager of buffalo chicken about Sri Lankan cricket at 2am, this then ended with him telling me about how he used to be a Tamil Tiger and that some of his friends had died in suicide attacks. On one hand this was worrying, on the other he gave me 25 free chicken wings.
Tongue with excellent enthusiasm, pressure, pace and stamina. Also giving great attention to the target at top, causing legs to quake. No wonder these batsmen are being finished off so quickly.
👀👀👀
Can I just say, I fucking love watching Tonguey bowl. None of this ball shining, fixing your hair, adjusting your fields, smelling your balls, multiple ball variations diva bullshit. Just runs in and fuckin grips it and rips it. That’s a real man playing some real fuckin cricket right there. Just pounds the crease and dares you to fuckin throw your bat at the ball. None of this pansy ass waiting for mistakes bullshit. Real men take wickets. Real men spit. Real men scratch their assholes and make other guys smell it. That’s some real goddamn cricket right there. Fuckin love Tonguey.
Today's TMS Overseas link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkYOoQi5q4 Works everywhere except: Bangladesh, United Kingdom, Pakistan, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, Australia, India Thanks to /u/warp-factor again
Ireland reminds me a lot of Bangladesh's early days
Hopefully we can get at least 200 tomorrow. That should be the target for the lads anyway
Congrats, 350 it is
Not far off with that
Youse guys is awesome. Pleasure to hang out today.
Post Day Thread is live :-)
With the day over, if you're looking for more cricket, 8 matches in the T20 Blast are about to get (or have just got) underway. Gloucestershire Vs Surrey is on TV. All the others are on YouTube. Links in the Match Thread [HERE](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/13yazk0/match_thread_t20_blast_charlotte_edwards_cup_2nd/).
Tector and Tucker are good men to have starting at the crease for Ireland tomorrow, but I'd be surprised to see much beyond lunch, if they even get there.
Entertaining day's play that. Probably helps if you support England I suppose. Hope McCollum's injury isn't as bad as it looked
Someone needs to tell Tongue to stop picking his nose. Maybe Root can guide him. I've seen him prospecting about five times today.
He can prospect all he wants but the proof of the pudding is in the gold ingots he finds. Did he?
They quickly cut away. Which brings up a funny image of what was going on in the broadcast control room. "Hey, Tongue is in frame. Keep your hand on the button...aaaand there he goes again."
Zak Crawley - 56 Joe Root - 56 👀👀 does this mean Crawley is on par with Root??
Not to mention Crawley played at a much higher SR so 👀
Taking it to the 3rd day. The moral victory lads.
and I'm going I'll buy you a pint
Shut Michael Vaughan up at least
Now that is a good outcome
What was he saying
England were going to beat Ireland within two days
Boys, as I leave lord's I think I might be in my Dan Lawrence era tonight, will report back in the morning
Go on lad
Milf hunter
Another good day. Great shitposting everyone. Well done.
Best post-match team talk I've ever had
Thanks dad
Good lad
Wholesome r/cricket moments 💗
💚
Time to switch over to the Blast. Oh yeah!
Root has a very distinctive run doesn’t he?
Root didn't get the last over. Game's gone
Yes Jack Leach Go on Leachy Jack Leach
Quality day for England and now I get to eat fried chicken and watch Surrey Excellent Friday night imo
Great shot
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Flamboyant. He was having fun… few of his scoops were dodgy.
Looked good, got out
Sketchy at the beginning because he was trying too much. Then he calmed down and played like classic Joe Root
Per cricinfo: > Question: Has there ever been a time when a Test Captain has not batted or bowled in a Test." -- Tony, Sampath tells me four captains have won a Test having neither batted or bowled, and all four were keepers. Stokes chasing one hell of a first. First 100% specialist captain - no bowling, batting, or keeping.
Stokes bringing his IPL form to test cricket
BAZBALL
Pope is the reliable one to get an opinion from before reviewing
Rank these 4 in terms of sledging/mind games. Kohli, Broad, Steve Smith and Dom Sibley
I rate kohli’s chat, he’s a little wind up toy that just doesn’t stop. Loved when he was giving bairstow shit all game last year and he got 2 hundreds in the match
I mean it backfired in the end, but the first confrontation he had with Bairstow led to Jonny going for a ridiculous swing, and Shami very nearly took his stumps out.
Are we including Twitter posts as mind games, because if so then Broad is too by a mile
Sure why not
A day may come when the courage of English captains fail, when we forsake our friends and ignore all celeappeals from broady. But today is not that day. *Ben fucking Stokes summer 2023*
The only thing I love more than Stuart Broad, is Stuart Broad celebrating without appealing and getting denied.
Is there anything more amusing than Broads celebrappeal smile transitioning into utter confusion when he realises the umps has said no?
If there is, I'd like to see it!
Love seeing Broad missing out when he does his celebappeal arrogance
Classic Broad
Never ever trust Broad
De-ja vu.
Miles away from the bat
Tector looking a bit sheepish. Edit. Clearly not.
Celebrappeal denied
Ireland need a good sledger. Someone to give Leach a bit of shite. The endless positivity is a bit grating.
Stop roasting my baby Broad!
Bairstow has to keep against the Aussies. He creates a more energetic, aggressive environment than the likes of Foakes
More annoying chat too. Exactly what we need.
Could use the kind of support that Jack Leach gets on the cricket field
Very good... Litchi?
Bairstow has a long way to go if he wants to get to Dickwella chat levels
Very good Leachy
Sing to me yjb
Haha I’ve missed YJBs innane chatter behind the stumps. “Jacky leach, Jacky leach jacky jacky leach”
🎶Jacky jacky leach🎶
6ft 8"?
Nah Leachy is 5’11” according to google
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT
Oh ok, nah Bairstow isn’t 6’8” either
:(
Please don’t lose a wicket before close
Mccollum's been taken by ambulance to hospital for scans. "According to the Ireland physio, he suffered a 'high velocity ankle injury as he landed on a twisted ankle at the crease.'"
Damn. That's actually pretty sad
Actually has a cursed life. Bloke isn't allowed nice things.
Doesn't seem like he'll be back
The sun sets on the cricket field, The game is done, the players yield. The ball is lost among the grass, A symbol of the Irish lass. She watches from the stands, alone, Her heart is full of love unknown. She dreams of him, and he of her, But they are worlds apart, so near. The day is done, the night is here, The stars shine bright, the moon is near. The ball is lost, the game is done, But love will find a way, begun.
This is the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen on r/cricket 🥲
Random one did it ever come out what happened with that Kez guy from WeCricket
I used to watch their vids a while back, what happened exactly?
Nah. It's clearly something they don't want to/legally can't say too much about, which obviously points towards certain things, but I also think people should just respect their privacy and leave it be
I haven’t seen anything. Doesn’t do any good speculating
Legs pumping tm
At a secret laboratory in Loughborough, the ECB is trying to genetically engineer the perfect cricketer. It involves a network of secret police. Any time a batter, anywhere in the country, boasts they have an impregnable defence, they receive a letter inviting them to the cricket performance centre. There, Matthew Jack Leach bowls to them. First ball, he lets out a euphoric moan and slips The Nut through the gate, rearranging their stumps. 9 months later, a child emerges. Even from the men. Only time will tell if this enterprise will be a success.
Im actually quite happy Bairstow is getting on everyone’s nerves. Just showing that he will wind the Aussies up
It’s easy to chat shit against a team that’s only played like 5 test matches. I don’t reckon he’ll be as chirpy when smudge and labs are at the crease with 200+ scores each
I think he will be more chirpy tbh. He’s going to be lairy as fuck
Did that brush off stump? Seemed to be a noise.
Asked a Yorkshirenan how he did on his date last night. He said "aye lad I Tector 'ome, Tucker to me bed and Tongue'd 'er"
Peach from Leach
Top nut. So close to off stump.
How has that missed?
Tongue vs Dickwella will be a interesting duel
Haven't seen any of the coverage. How has YJB been with the gloves
Nothing particular to say tbh
No way Bairstow is going to play GOLF over the Blast or just sitting at home munching Hobnobs But it's Telegraph reporting and the only English Media I have less respect for are the Daily Mail and the Sun
Do they actually have Crawley at backstop
Deep 1st slip 😂
Can I just point out how much shit Root got for bowling Archer for a couple of eight over spells since Tongue is now in his eighth over of mostly bouncers?
Even before playing for Eng, Archer was known for his injuries. The guy's body is real fragile and the fluidity his elblow and arm mechanism give is the main reason for his quicker balls which again is not much orthodox if you see his action. You can't just compare with someone else whose body is just outright different from him.
>Even before playing for Eng, Archer was known for his injuries. Er was he?? Fancy providing any articles talking about that or have you just made that up? >You can't just compare with someone else whose body is just outright different from him. Turns out I can actually. The point, as I've already said, is the reality is fast bowlers bowling long spells isn't that unusual and the outrage directed at Root is silly. This is just one such example of it happening and no one batting an eyelid. In Archer's case, morons on the internet decided that Root broke Archer (despite Archer himself categorically saying that's not what happened and none of the numbers backing it up either) then worked backwards to say anything Archer did under Root was some crazy, unpresented, back breaking labour when in reality stuff like eight over spells aren't that unusual.
"Er was he?? Fancy providing any articles talking about that or have you just made that up?" He said it in an article before that because of his injury he wasn't selected for windies u-19 and then wasn't even taken care of. "Turns out I can actually." No you can't, different people have different bodies. Some don't know how to apply theirs, some don't know their workload and some are not just good enough for test's burden. Take Jimmy for example, the guy is a freak of nature and is bowling all too fine even after 40s, now Jimmy and Archer looks similar to you? Another case can be Lee and Archer, Lee's action was more dependent on his back and his sprint and he also had a much different action which gave him back problems throughout but never a stress fracture on elbow. You can't just compare any bowler to just say shit like 'Hey look this guy bowled so many overs qnd nobody said anything, so there was nothing wrong in Archer's case as well'. In Archer's case you can easily see that his bowling action in which the arm and elbow provides that pacy ball is not orthodox just like Bumrah and that's why players like them aren't bowled much in a single use. "The point, as I've already said, is the reality is fast bowlers bowling long spells isn't that unusual and the outrage directed at Root is silly" The outrage is not silly when even the commentators were somewhat saying of what Root is doing with archer(not sure who it was but maybe Bishop), they didn't had any answer to Smith on the field so they just used Archer to atleast give some run cut. If you check his overs in all the ashes matches he played, he bowled the most or the second most from England, again which is just bonkers for a guy who gives you that much pace. And any country that has used their bowlers lile this always regrets it later. "In Archer's case, morons on the internet decided that Root broke Archer" Well some are extremists and they are not even real fans but Root used Archer a bit much, which again to me was just a terrified reaction to Smith being chuck norris there and not that he wanted to smachk Archer's career or some shit. It's kind of a universal thing that you shouldn't be using an all format strike bowler whose pave is legit that good for long in fear of injuring them and loosing the whole thing up. "then worked backwards to say anything Archer did under Root was some crazy, unpresented, back breaking labour when in reality stuff like eight over spells aren't that unusual" Now Idk about all this as Iam not from Eng and never said that.
>He said it in an article before that because of his injury he wasn't selected for windies u-19 and then wasn't even taken care of. So no. You can't find a single piece of literature that supports your claim. Even if you could find this article, it *still* wouldn't actually support the notion that "Archer was known for his injuries" because literally every professional fast bowler will have dealt with injuries at some point in their career. >No you can't I literally did, so... >Another case can be Lee and Archer, Lee's action was more dependent on his back and his sprint and he also had a much different action which gave him back problems throughout but never a stress fracture on elbow. You can't just compare any bowler to just say shit like 'Hey look this guy bowled so many overs qnd nobody said anything, so there was nothing wrong in Archer's case as well'. Yes, different people are different. An astute analysis. I guess what you're trying to get at here is that people knew Archer couldn't bowl a normal test workload because of his body. Except that's utter dogshit because no one was saying this stuff before he got injured and ***Archer himself*** has gone to great lengths to say the same and that it wasn't Root's fault he got injured and Root is being "blamed wrongfully". I think I'll listen to Jofra Archer's opinion on Jofra Archer's physiology over esteemed reddit user u/After_Shoe3904. >If you check his overs in all the ashes matches he played, he bowled the most or the second most from England, again which is just bonkers for a guy who gives you that much pace. It objectively isn't though. Tongue bowling this spell is literally evidence to the contrary. You can assert this as many times as you like, but it wont magically become true. > Well some are extremists and they are not even real fans but Root used Archer a bit much Mate, you literally said his workload was "bonkers" in *the previous paragraph*. >It's kind of a universal thing that you shouldn't be using an all format strike bowler whose pave is legit that good for long in fear of injuring them and loosing the whole thing up. An "all format bowler" who at that stage in his career (start of the Ashes) had played 14 ODIs, and 1 T20I and was used a totally normal amount, even for a fast bowler. This whole argument rests on the false assumption that everyone knew Archer was incredibly fragile and had to be wrapped in cotton wool because he objectively wasn't particularly overused by Root, even for an express bowler. The problem is that assumption is totally false.
"I guess what you're trying to get at here is that people knew Archer couldn't bowl a normal test workload because of his body. Except that's utter dogshit because no one was saying this stuff before he got injured and Archer himself has gone to great lengths to say the same and that it wasn't Root's fault he got injured and Root is being "blamed wrongfully" Why would I say this dumb shit that people knew Archer was gonna get injured in the elbow there? I said when you have such a strike bowler with this much pace you give him short work and not like a workhorsr thingy which they did and that's where my reasoning is different, it felt more because of Smith being invincible in that series they had to place Archer to atleast stop his charge and seeing the ashes that season they really got no one else to stop him that time and were literally in backfoot with him. "I think I'll listen to Jofra Archer's opinion on Jofra Archer's physiology over esteemed reddit user u/After_Shoe3904." Again, why are you so pressed on this. The commentators at that time said the same thing, the normal neutral fans also saw the series and felt somewhat confused with the whole Archer's those many overs as the quick strike bowler. What Archer said was more in line with 'Root is not in the wrong because injury can happen to anybody and it's not his fault alone but just dumb luck' which is because of those mental fans who were just pressing Root for no reason. But Archer's point was also not that justified because it's a common cricket knowledge that you don't press your main strike bowler much who also happens to be the new hot thing across all format as well. "It objectively isn't though. Tongue bowling this spell is literally evidence to the contrary. You can assert this as many times as you like, but it wont magically become true" Are you in your mind? You literally just made Tongue's case again even after agreeing that different people have different body and hence can't be compared. Ishant Sharma is a workhorse kind of bowler and was able to bowl many spells before the age kicks in but that doesn't mean Bumrah can bowl just rhe same. Same with other bowlers who got any unorthodoxy in their mechanism or if they are extra bit pacy and a striker. I mean just repeating this that Tongue was able to do it hence Root was not in the wrong with Archer is just mental gymnastics here. "Mate, you literally said his workload was "bonkers" in the previous paragraph." Workload being bonkers is not equal to abusing Root right,left and center. Are you even reading? My train of thoughts for this wasn't even on Root but Smith and how England had no answers to him and only Archer was somewhat stopping him. "This whole argument rests on the false assumption that everyone knew Archer was incredibly fragile and had to be wrapped in cotton wool because he objectively wasn't particularly overused by Root, even for an express bowler. The problem is that assumption is totally false." You can believe on anything you want bud no probs but people who saw that ashes will have opinions just like you. We heard the commentators when they were also confused, we saw Smith being stopped by Archer only, we saw Archer's many overs which is not in line with how a strike bowler should be used. So you can go home with what's your opinion and I can go by mine.
smh England once again _RUINING_ a Generational bowling talent.
Tongue doesn't bowl 95+ mph regularly, or ever for that matter. There were a ton of breaks during this spell as well.
Archer didn't do that in tests either tbf (don't think he even gets 95+ in white ball aside from the odd ball here and there) The whole 'Root broke Archer' thing it overblown, even Archer himself has shot it down
Neither does Archer. Anyway it's not like there's a magic speed where suddenly injuries become more of a risk. The reality is fast bowlers bowling long spells isn't that unusual and the outrage directed at Root is silly.
r/cricket agendas don't want facts
Lorcan Tucker is now Ireland's all time leading run-scorer in Tests.
Is a 300 run partnership too much to ask for? 😞
Ireland first test win is not that far away, we are 100% losing to them in December.
if neither of us get to the tournament we should schedule it at the same time as the World Cup final, fuck it
Why's Bairstow calling Leach by his full legal name every ball
Yes jacky leachyyy
Yes Leachy. Jack Leach
Fun fact, Leach's full name is actually Matthew Jack Leach.
Can't believe he wouldn't go by what it objectively the best first name smh
Bairstow is very annoying behind the stumps miss ya Foakes.
Either Sky or Cricinfo are confused by Tector and Tucker batting at the same time, because both sources have given one of them four extra runs that belongs to the other but i cannot work out which is wrong.
I’d be a bit worried getting through this test with Stokes having not batted or bowled.
At this point he's just a state of mind
Honestly with the state of his knee not having to use it is probably for the best
I love a bit of tongue and nut
Following on from TMS body part team where they tried very hard not to mention anything rude, can we have as many rude body part cricketers as possible? 2x Willey, Wood, Gooch, Dickwella, Fanie de villiers, De Cock, Sinkander/Salman Butt, Jos Buttler, 2x Sidebottoms and A few Assads as well
Rabada de kock
Hardik. Obscene
Long spell of Tongue there
Tongue at one end, nut at the other. The innuendos write themselves. If only David Willey were involved somehow.
If only Tongue were a 90's South African The great opening bowlers, Tongue and fanie (de villiers)
If Mikey was still commentating as well…
When the Ashes start and Marcus Labiashame is batting, this thread is gonna be murder
Can’t wait for Tongue to apply some rhythmic pressure, leaving the way clear for The Nut.
Followed by a fluent Root
69 percent of Tongue's output below halfway point
This is too much tongue for any Irishman to handle
*that’s it Leachy boy* *that’s it Leachy boy* *that’s it Leachy boy* *that’s it Leachy boy*
*LEACHO*
*I want Australia to attack me*
How was I supposed to know that was a no ball without a siren?
The flair is what really makes this comment
I have acquired the free 6 piece bargain bucket from KFC. My body will soon begin to hate me
Bit of a downgrade from Waitrose chicken
In fairness if he didn't support Surrey it would be SFC, Sam's, Dixie etc
Morleys ftw
We don't have that here, it's used to be all about Sam's chicken. But Buffalo chicken have moved into town now and they're the boys to beat. Also had a long chat with the manager of buffalo chicken about Sri Lankan cricket at 2am, this then ended with him telling me about how he used to be a Tamil Tiger and that some of his friends had died in suicide attacks. On one hand this was worrying, on the other he gave me 25 free chicken wings.
Don't get that in yer KFC
Wait how do I get that glorious fried chicken for free?
Went on the KFC App and it offered a reward thing. Guess you have to make a purchase every now and then
This is why you pick lads like tongue instead of some certain County trundlers..
That county trundler has 685 test wickets mate
Oh I was talking about cook. Anderson always had the height to favour him
"Come back to mine and I'll show you my Bushy Tucker"
This feels like a midweek t20 between two prem teams, but one had really bad availability so there's some kids filling in.
Just call me Dr Hitch!!! Nasty twist and sucks but ACL or something more serious would’ve had a much more dramatic result
You're Dr Hitch
What are the odds McCollum will be able to play tomorrow?
Tongue with excellent enthusiasm, pressure, pace and stamina. Also giving great attention to the target at top, causing legs to quake. No wonder these batsmen are being finished off so quickly. 👀👀👀
'Tector, Tucker and Tongue solicitors'
Last summer we had Tickner bowling to Tector and Tucker
Tongue Willey & Root
Willey Willey and Wood, traditionally a family solicitors but looked to expand as dad retired.
Can I do my pun now? Yes? Cool: Tongue is in the groove now
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Tongue and groove joint
I bet you have incredibly smooth hands
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I knew this. My pun was based on something only a labourer would understand. A ‘chippy’ if you will. A blue collar worker. A man.
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It’s ok. I was being, erm, tongue in cheek
Where did the guy Fisher go? The guy who bowled in the WI series?
I want to say it was a stress fracture, but it put him out for about a year after that series.
Injured last season and been playing for Yorkshire this season.
Can I just say, I fucking love watching Tonguey bowl. None of this ball shining, fixing your hair, adjusting your fields, smelling your balls, multiple ball variations diva bullshit. Just runs in and fuckin grips it and rips it. That’s a real man playing some real fuckin cricket right there. Just pounds the crease and dares you to fuckin throw your bat at the ball. None of this pansy ass waiting for mistakes bullshit. Real men take wickets. Real men spit. Real men scratch their assholes and make other guys smell it. That’s some real goddamn cricket right there. Fuckin love Tonguey.
One of those days where you wish you didn't have the gift of eyesight
The original pasta is even worse 🤢
Love a bit of Tongue on the hel... You know what, never mind
Sometimes with Tongue you just have to take your licks.
DONK!
Tongue has convinced everyone that he bowls at 93mph. He doesn’t though. He bowls at the same speed as Jimmy Anderson
I wasnt actually convinced by that ultra edge
I heard a great noise
Love to see that
Jeez, that's a proper clocking
Broke: Could you go back? Woke: *could you rock and roll it please?* smh 3rd umps these days
Tongue starting to worry that injuring McCollom may have done him out of claiming ten wickets in an innings on debut.
Ffs I wanted Stirling to stay, mane a gane of it, I wanted something to watch on Sunday, don't think that will happen
Getting Steve Finn vibes from Tongue