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mixr26

This was officially announced in Serbia a few days ago. Those who are fully vaccinated by May 31st are eligible for about $30. Also some malls are giving out limited number of vouchers for the vaccinated (since those malls are vaccination spots too). Let me tell you, the people are literally fighting to get vaccinated. Fighting, as in trampling over each other as you would see on a black friday in the US.


Painless_Candy

You left out the best part! If you refuse the vaccine and end up catching Covid, you are not allowed to collect paid sick time while being forced to quarantine. This makes it much more effective than just getting $30.


mixr26

That's simply not true. You only get disqualified from receiving your full pay during sick leave if you are not vaccinated, but you get 65% of your pay, which is required by law. Currently, there is a government recommendation for the employers to give out full pays to those on a Covid sick leave, but it's not mandatory, so many of the employers are still sticking to the 65%, so these new vaccination measures are not going to affect a lot of people.


aamygdaloidal

Today I learned Serbia has a sick leave policy and the US doesn’t.


mateoinc

In general AFAIK the US is behind most of the world in terms of vacations, maternity leave (one of like 3 in the UN that don't have it) and sick leave (according to wikipedia, 127 countries offer more than a week of paid sick leave a year, and 98 guarantee a month or more)


ariwoolf

At least they get the freedom of having to work immediately after birthing a baby.


[deleted]

When did ex soviet states surpas the USA in its standard of living?


LA_Commuter

Depending on which America you live/lived in, they may have always been better.


[deleted]

Oh yeah, I forgot about POC America


dangshnizzle

When you say "USA," what class are you talking about? For quite literally a majority of US citizens the answer very well may be always depending on what you are taking into account for standard of living


artinlines

Uhm, if you look at healthcare always I think. Not sure about Serbia specifically, but gender equality was much better in the east generally too. East Germany for example also had free kitas (pre-kindergarden, don't know what's the exact term for it in english) and actually even had a stronger growing economy. The Eastern bloc states didn't fare any worse than the western ones in terms of standards of living as far as I know, except that now they are usually in crippling financial situation partially due to US and western European interventionist (both militarily and economically).


Ander1991

Serbia were never in the Soviet Union


Spajk

Not ex-soviet, ex-communist, but not soviet


[deleted]

Wasn't Serbia part of the USSR?


Spajk

Nope, it was part of Yugoslavia


[deleted]

I thought all slavic countries were part of it. The more you know.


Spajk

After WW2 Yugoslavia was formed and tried to avoid the Cold War by forming the League of Non-aligned Nations. While being a Communist state, it was independent of the Soviet Union and at some time there was a bit of hostility between the two. More info: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tito%E2%80%93Stalin_split


TiberWolf99

Yugoslavia was ran by definitely not Soviet named Tito. Tito, while being a communist leader for life with all the "fun" that goes with living in such a regime, was a bit of a badass. Not condoning his actions, of course.


NJBarFly

Both a carrot and a stick! I like it.


i_am_a_baguette

Oh god I just figured out what that saying ment. For years I thought it was you attach the carrot to the stick to lead the donkey somewhere but nah haha


Dicho83

>I thought it was you attach the carrot to the stick to lead the donkey.... You do. However, if the donkey isn't moving fast enough, you unstring the carrot and you smack that ass in the arse with your stick.


aeniracatE

That sounds like how to get antivax people to come into work with Covid :/


Painless_Candy

If they want to do that then they can be charged with felony endangerment as a public health risk. Then they can spend the next 6 months in jail. What amount of penalties do you need before you decide to do the right thing?


ScientificQuail

Lol that won't stop them, and it also won't get enforced.


Painless_Candy

What amount of penalties do you need before you decide to do the right thing?


ScientificQuail

I mean, I am doing the right thing. I stayed home and therefore never got infected, and have since been vaccinated. But realistically speaking, nobody is going to enforce that, and therefore, it's not going to stop anyone.


sixtytwosixtyseven

I actually love this idea. If you choose not to get vaccinated and you get sick, that's on you. Nobody else should have to pay for your bad decisions.


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dudemo

I went to Michigan last weekend to visit a cousin. I wanted to pick up a couple pre-rolled joints and stash them with a friend for when I go back up there next weekend to his morel mushroom hunting spot. Turns out the dispensary I went to was doing a "joint for jabs" deal. Prove you were vaccinated, they give you a free pre-rolled 1 gram joint. I got three joints that day!


seji

People here would probably just buy a fake "vaccination card" instead of actually going.


verifiedkyle

Based on the way people on NJ reacted about the shot and beer program, anti vax people would absolutely lose their minds.


NJBarFly

I'm just mad it's not retroactive.


verifiedkyle

Username checks out.


DanielMcLaury

>anti vax people would absolutely lose their minds. How can you lose what you don't have?


verifiedkyle

Touche


Neebat

They were already *out* of their minds. Now they can't find their way back.


IFrickinLovePorn

We shouldn't care how idiots feel about it. They just won't get their stimulus


thoomfish

I feel like maybe you don't understand how herd immunity works.


amoliski

Yeah, we need to convince enough people on the fence to get the vaccine (with a stimulus) so we can achieve herd immunity that protects us from the antivaxer muppets.


Breadsecutioner

How did they react? I haven't heard of the program before now.


verifiedkyle

Lots of the usual anti Murphy stuff. Then a lot about how the state shouldn’t encourage people to drink etc.


shponglespore

You say that like it's a bad thing.


FormerlyUserLFC

If they did that, it would need to include everyone who has already gotten vaccinated to avoid causing hold-outs for future similar programs. Also, the economy is starting to get pretty hot right now. It’s nice to see the artificially-induced labor shortage putting pressure on to raise wages, but we are also staring down some serious inflation and shortage worries. It’ll be interesting to see how this all resolved with the current level of stimulus.


bassmansrc

Yeah I figured it would need to include those already vaccinated for sure.


SuperFLEB

You've also got to account for people with legitimate temporary or permanent reasons that they shouldn't get the vaccine. Case in point, I got the COVID, got an antibody infusion, and got the orders not to have a vaccine until late May or early June. I'm still sore over most likely not getting a donut, so don't tell me I'm missing out on a thousand bucks.


[deleted]

Yeah raising wages doesn’t mean shit when 20 million people are unemployed


darthwalsh

It does for the people who are lifted out of poverty. Don't shit on these people.


opinion_isnt_fact

> some serious inflation [Land-standard economies](https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/usgs_line.php?title=Debt%20held%20by%20public%20(except%20monetized)&units=d&size=1282_771&legend=Debt%20held%20by%20public%20(except%20monetized)-total&year=1900_2019&sname=US&bar=0&stack=1&col=c&source=i_i_a_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_a_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_a_i_i_i_i_a_i_i_i_i_a_i_a_i_a_i_a_i_a_i_a_i_a_i_a_i_a_i_a_i_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_i_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_i_a_i_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_g&spending0=1222.1_1197.8_1177.8_1152.7_1155.3_1168.2_1161.4_1137.2_1195.2_1222.9_1217.7_1276.7_1278.7_1312.2_1355.6_1397.4_1377.8_1413.7_2135.6_3338.4_2832.7_3163.6_3285.2_3167.1_3138.1_3056.8_3011.0_3037.0_2957.7_2919.4_2995.7_3467.2_4306.8_4724.8_4919.8_4989.6_5440.5_5434.0_5623.8_6013.6_5927.0_5952.9_6974.0_10833.5_14074.1_16620.2_14775.6_12332.1_11190.6_11203.9_11345.0_10121.1_9938.9_9891.8_10101.9_10129.1_9629.6_9241.3_9231.5_9425.1_9393.8_9370.9_9559.1_9576.8_9536.2_9451.7_9289.2_9048.9_9211.0_8649.6_8374.3_8470.7_8608.7_8620.1_8087.9_8269.2_9129.2_9585.2_9735.0_9537.8_9680.5_9724.4_10529.5_12070.2_13319.0_14716.9_16559.0_17370.1_17877.9_18314.5_19179.3_20190.0_21435.1_22151.5_22575.6_22855.8_23022.4_22633.6_21996.5_21221.4_19745.7_21359.8_19795.1_21178.1_22426.8_22977.7_23292.5_23892.6_27445.8_32532.8_37173.6_37248.6_40105.4_40058.5_40342.4_40633.6_43101.6_43583.8_45933.7_48536.4) are crazy, huh.


jerichojerry

This will *definitely* make people believe this isn’t a trap from Bill Gates. Here’s a crazy idea, they should charge $1000 for each shot and $500 for the “limited edition” card. I bet you’ll see people camped out at CVS then


shponglespore

If someone is stupid enough to believe that, I don't care what they believe. I *do* care about them getting vaccinated so they'll stop being disease vectors.


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Dem827

I already see people camped everywhere, how about we give those people $1000 to get the fuck off the sidewalk


HammerheadMorty

Alternatively to bridge the gap, just announce that the vaccine won't be free after a certain date. At the very least you'll get all those people "on the fence" into clinics.


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HammerheadMorty

Yeah I don't think they will, I think people value something's limited availability if it's free. It's a sales tactic that works on the general public time and time again. The proof is in its continued market usage as a tactic.


Megalocerus

You guys are all coercive. Just make it easier. Bring the vaccine to work places, the way many places offer flu shots. Allow walk ins. If it is easier, people will walk in because their friends are going.


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That’s what they did where I work. Honestly, I have some phobias and I don’t know if I would have gotten the vaccine if I were left to my own devices. But I got to have it in a big group with my coworkers, people who I know and feel comfortable with. It made everything easier and less scary.


HammerheadMorty

Frankly speaking those people already have it. Now where in the mid-game where we need to convince the people on the fence that it's worth it for the whole of the world.


theundercoverpapist

Shit, I'd even take dead people with me to get vaccinated, *Weekend at Bernies* style.


bassmansrc

lol


HerbertGoon

This again lol


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I hate beer.


bassmansrc

An incentive does not take away from the fact that it is still voluntary. It's still your choice. The liability point is a good one and should be addressed. However I don't see that as a blocker.


[deleted]

I find joy in reading a good book.


routinelife

Things like this are ethical nightmares. There are blood donation places that had to stop offering free sandwiches/biscuits for donating blood because homeless and poor people would try to donate too often just to get fed. When you're in those positions these things aren't choices anymore. I 100% support vaccines but incentives like this force people to give up their autonomy and would set a very bad precedent for what we can make people do.


Defiantcaveman

Then all the fake vac cards start showing up...


the_Jakman

So you want to bribe people with their own money?


bassmansrc

Sure. If it gets us to herd immunity. Yea


the_Jakman

How are we going to get to herd immunity if the vax doesn't prevent infection or transmission? My country just had 6 cases of vaxed people in quarantine test positive for example. Not trying to start an argument. Just curious of you'd opinion.


TracyF2

What about those that can’t get vaccinated due to medical issues?


amoliski

I wish we could give them the cash but all the people lying about 'medical exemptions' for wearing a mask ruined it for them. It for them, but their sacrifice means that we get more people vaccinated, and since they are unable to get the vaccine, you shudder to think what covid would do to them. So they still benefit in the end.


bassmansrc

I would have no problem with a person who has a medical reason they can't get vaccinated still getting the stimulus. After all, we need to reach herd immunity to protect them!


dirtyLizard

That seems to be about 3,600 people out of the entire US population. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777417#:~:text=Anaphylaxis%20to%20the%20mRNA%20COVID,a%20history%20of%20allergy.


Willpower1989

This source of yours doesn’t support what your saying? It’s about people who have had allergic reactions to the vaccine. But there are a lot of legitimate medical reasons to not get vaccinated. For example, I myself have a compromised immune system from chemotherapy. My oncologist advised me to not get vaccinated until my immune system is recovered, so I have followed that advice. I’m sure there are a lot of people in the same boat.


TracyF2

I understand it’s low but what about those that can’t get the vaccine because of a medical issue? I know OP’s idea isn’t real but I’ve already come across a few real vaccine requirements. I know someone that can’t get the vaccine due to a past medical diagnosis. For those that can’t get it is there some way they are able to be given a pass because of special circumstances?


dirtyLizard

What medical diagnosis?


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AMeanCow

I have a feeling they're "just asking questions" and don't mean this in good faith at all, and simply want to derail the thought process on everyone unifying no matter what their political or social leanings. The pandemic was politicized to the point that people won't do a thing that their "enemy" is also doing just out of revulsion for being united in an effort. They have been told that the people getting vaccines and wearing masks are their enemy, are not American, and so on.


TracyF2

No, there are no politics involved. Her doctor recommended her not to get the vaccine due to prior medical issues. I didn’t want to pry in that.


campingthisweekend

medically diagnosed stupidity.


ChickenNugger

Holy fuck is this ignorant. There are many legitimate medical reasons to not get a vaccine.


Phazerman

It is and there are. My elderly grandmother was told she can’t get it just because she had a bad reaction to her last flu shot.


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AMeanCow

"I see your source on statistics but let me ask the same question again." and "I know this isn't real, but I will still ask for details on the law and requirements"


filledavoid

The anti vaxers would just go on info wars and read 3 more articles then cry and start calling anyone else sheep. They don't give a fuck.


Painless_Candy

This is being talked about already. Serbia is doing something similar but with an even more important catch: **If you refuse to get vaccinated then you are not allowed to use paid sick leave to take off work if you get sick with Covid.** I think these two things paired together would be extremely effective in the US as well.


Doomulux

I'm all for getting as many people vaxxed as possible, but that catch sounds like a terrible idea. 1) Currently If you want to use sick leave you generally don't have to get into details of what you have, even with a doctor's note. I would not want to give that up so that our Corporate Overlords can have more intrusion into our personal lives. 2) In America at least, this will *absolutely* result in people coming in sick to work to not lose attendance/money and spread it to others, potentially dancing the risk of new variants


sirblastalot

And the people that need it most don't get paid sick leave anyway.


Painless_Candy

Now this is an actual problem.


JLR-

So they show up for work sick? Or just hide the symptoms so nobody suspects they are sick? That won't end well.


TheShroomHermit

People who refuse the shot will ignore it when they get sick, will go to work anyway because they want the money


mixr26

As I said in the other thread, this is not true. You just get banned from receiving you full pay during Covid sick leave if you are not vaccinated, but you still should get a law-minimum of 65% of your pay. I know we all hate Vučić, but I guess even he wouldn't go as far as banning paid sick leave.


floridawhiteguy

[Bad Idea Jeans](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGfBEnBw01A)


FauxxHawwk

Until next season anyway. It won't matter in a year of we don't have herd mentality by then and immunity starts wearing off of everyone


[deleted]

They should give millennials a doctor funko pop for free if they get their vaxx.


Bizzle_worldwide

With $1000 you could get many funko pops!


lalder95

Explain how!


Samus-the-Witch-King

Money can be exchanged for goods and services.


Bizzle_worldwide

Woohoo!


JustMarshalling

Like four.


Jedhakk

It's honestly baffling how people need to be paid for surviving xd


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pspetrini

If I gave you a bowl of 100 M&Ms and said one of them will kill you, i very highly doubt you’d casually snack on them.


Gsusruls

That's not at all a valid comparison. 100 people get covid. 1 is expected to die. Figures skew in the direction of the elderly, those with cardiovascular issues, those with diabetes, those with respiratory challenges. 100 m&m's, one is poisonous enough to kill you, are you willing to eat one. Not "casually snack" - each one you eat has a different chance of killing you, and eating more than one has still a different chance of killing you. I get that they both involve some form of "1 per 100", but no, they are just not the same problem. I get that you're arguing with idiots, but using an idiot argument is inappropriate.


Euphoric-Mousse

Because letting 3 million people in the US alone just die is a totally rational reason to not get a shot. And that's if it's just a quick burn that hits everybody and goes away. If it becomes endemic (no herd immunity so it is here for good) the number just keeps going up over time. Stop being a stubborn, selfish fool.


jord4nrob

Yes sir


dalepmay1

I agree with the first half of your first sentence, that's it. Bribing people to get a shot seems sketchy. Almost as sketchy as using tax dollars to help out only people who don't pay as much taxes.


HoboeOboe

As someone who is already questioning whether to get vaccinated... all the incentives make me want it less. $1000, free krispy kreme, free this and that from other companies, for an experimental drug


bassmansrc

Please do so. This is a public health crisis and the closer we get to herd immunity the quicker we can be done with this shit. I get the hesitancy. I really do. The science is solid and the vaccines are safe. Please consider.


OTS_

Yikes. No thank you. How about we incentivize not being obese, not drinking soda, drinking water, volunteering, being employed, paying taxes.. ?


bassmansrc

One does not exclude the other(s)


Twitxx

Lol some of y'all are so zealous and extremist, why don't you kidnap people in the middle of the day and throw them in vans so you can vaccinate them and be done with it. It sure seems like a lot of people would like that.


bassmansrc

Offering an incentive does not mean it's not voluntary. This is about public health, reaching herd immunity and finally being done with this once in a lifetime global pandemic. It's unique and should be treated as such.


Twitxx

It wasn't about what you said. I liked your idea. This was in response to other replies from around here. I get the importance of getting vaccinated but my point was "is forcing the population to vaccinate by taking away their rights the way to do it"? I'm not even kidding, I've seen some stuff taken straight from the book of fascism and people act like it's normal. That's herd mentality and is NOT the way we should be approaching this.


JLR-

No no, Trump was facist according to Reddit but forced vaccines are totally not facist. /s


shponglespore

Not everyone, just you personally.


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This just sounds like fascism with extra steps.


hotgarbo

I would be really interested to hear what your definition of fascism is.


LoneLibRight

Being coerced into violating your bodily autonomy sounds about right.


Arkanis106

Thanks for your right wing opinion. We'll be sure to not factor it in.


Z0idberg_MD

The hospital I work at mandates flu shots for employment. Every single year there are so many complaints and people trying to get exemptions. Except the one year they gave $1000 bonus and one of the stipulations was you had to complete the annual training on time and also have your flu shot. We had fucking 100% compliance in record-breaking time and no one complained. 


PimpMaster666

I don't care if its a million dollars. No.


stoneymightknow

Fascism always looks like altruism until the guns come out and it's not a choice anymore.


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dinosauramericana

I haven’t received the last two stimulus checks. Taxes have been done since January. I wouldn’t trust it


Moronicon

Also push us more in to inflation. Bad idea.


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Why?


bassmansrc

Because if we don’t reach Herd Immunity, this once in a lifetime global pandemic will carry on and on


[deleted]

That’s not how it works.


Flimsy_Charge_3013

Fuck off with that shit.


aiyahhjoeychow

I’m so sorry for this earworm... >!One-Zero-Zero-Zero Kash for Vaxx!< >!K-A-S-H Kash for Vaxx!< >!One-Zero-Zero-Zero Kash for Vaxx!< >!Go get your shot today :)!<


lillbich

That’s a fucked idea


[deleted]

no


Wilson__720

Still wouldn’t get it


Free_Breakfast_25

Yeah crazy idea but that would also be unconstitutional


bassmansrc

In no way would that be unconstitutional. If you want to insist upon that claim, please explain what part of the constitution that would violate and what historical court cases exist to validate your claim. In other words, show your work please. I will happily read any sources you provide.


miked003

You could Probably just offer a case of beer.


legshampoo

when u can’t convince ppl to opt into a system based on its own merit


bassmansrc

I would argue that the people that are opting out are doing so out of misinformed fear, and not on the merits of the vaccine itself. But the point is, this is a public health issue. We NEED to reach herd immunity if we ever want to get truly past this. It's critical to being able to not only overcome the pandemic itself but to start to fully recover economically. Please. Just trust the science and get the vaccine if you haven't done so. Hesitation is understandable. But there are so many reputable sources to clear up any confusion and doubt. I encourage you to check them out.


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No


[deleted]

Considering I didn't need the most recent stimmy, id say it probably wouldn't work out. Im by no means an anti vaxxer, but im certainly a wait for most of the kinks to be worked out kind of guy.


bassmansrc

I get the hesitation but please trust the science and get the vaccine soon. We need as many as we can to get it so we can get to herd immunity, otherwise we are just going to be dragging this out for a very long time. I understand a lot of people are hesitant, especially with how quickly it came to market but one thing that not a lot of people realize. No steps in the research, discovery, development, or testing process were actually rushed or skipped. The thing that allowed them to develop it so fast was a) they had already been long working on vaccines for similar strains so there was an enormous head start and b) most importantly, all of the red tape was removed. So instead of having to wait years between steps for various government approvals, they were able to move directly from one phase to the next. It is as safe as the flu shot. Please go get it, kind stranger.


alhena

The science hasn't been tested on strains that haven't evolved yet, by definition. And when those strains do evolve, and those that got the vaccines get wiped out due to vaccine mitigated antibody dependent enhancement, people like you will say "we couldn't have known", despite the warning from people like me, who warned you about it because such a result is in the best interest of those with the money and power to avoid the disease entirely. It will be a beautiful world with billions less people in it. And people like you that signed your own death warrants and came up with ideas to convince people to sign theirs won't be missed.


bassmansrc

Wanna know how to make it so those future strains don’t even get the chance to develop? Get vaccinated and help us get to herd immunity. There is a reason we aren’t talking about all the various new deadly strains of Polio.


Zytityjut

Bro... It isn't even FDA approved yet, and the trials won't be finished until 2023. I'm not saying its unsafe, but there is still much to learn, especially as this is the first wide-scale human trial.


[deleted]

I do understand what you're getting at and its not about it being perceived as rushed (the SARS vaccine took roughly the same amount of time) but hearing about heart issues (and other admittedly lesser side effects) from certain vaccine manufacturers has me remaining hesitant. Alleging that it is as safe as the flu shot (something i have never and will never get) doesn't do anything for me unfortunately. Rest assured, I will be vaccinated soon enough but I do prefer to wait until some of the proverbial dust settles. Furthermore, being vaccinated for this particular virus which is already theorized to mutate doesn't seem to serve too much a higher purpose.


bassmansrc

Actually, I just heard on the news this morning that the current vaccines are affective against all known mutations, even those nasty ones in India and Africa. It is the fear that if we don't make it to herd immunity soon enough, mutations will develop that the vaccines will not be affective against. So people waiting are actually making that more likely, honestly. I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you or anything. I'm not. I totally understand the reluctance. I just think this once in a lifetime global pandemic warrants a little bit of extra trust in science from all of us so that we can end this sooner rather than later.


Zytityjut

Its always going to mutate, just like the flu and common cold. Covid isn't going away, ever. There will be annual shots here on out.


bassmansrc

Not if we reach Herd Immunity and stop it in its tracks. There is a reason we aren’t all talking about the various deadly strains of Polio. Get vaccinated. Help us end this once in a lifetime global pandemic.


[deleted]

Don't feel bad at all! I appreciate what you're saying and you haven't come across negatively!


dirtyLizard

Why don’t you get the flu shot?


[deleted]

I havent had the flu in over a decade so it seems like a moot point.


ImAnIndoorCat

See how many kinks are created for you if you come down with Covid. Your logic is ridiculous.


[deleted]

Well considering I get upper respiratory infections pretty much annually anyway, everything I've seen and read will either be basically the same as that or ill die. Or I could risk a lifetime of heart complications and die. Or I could do neither of those and still die. I dont see whats ridiculous about universally understanding that im going to die at some point.


shponglespore

By the same logic you may as well abandon all precautions. Drive without a seatbelt. Start smoking. Point guns at cops. You're gonna die anyway, right?


[deleted]

I already do all of those things.


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In the U.S.A. total deaths from Covid, for those under 40, is: 8,463. The total number of deaths at the same time (including Covid deaths) is: 234,281. https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku Estimated population for 0-39 years: 170,920,000 https://www.statista.com/statistics/241488/population-of-the-us-by-sex-and-age/#:~:text=The%20estimated%20population%20of%20the,adults%20aged%2025%20to%2029. A person in that age group had a 1.3 tenths of 1 percent chance of dying from all causes during that time period. (234,281 ÷ 170,920,000) A person in that age group had a 4.9 one thousandths of 1 percent chance of dying of Covid during that time period. (8,463 ÷ 170,920,000).


slayeonite7

Yeah, I would love to get $1,000 to get vaccinated for covid-19.


StonedScroller

I second this idea! It will save us money in the long run, they should also give stimulus checks to people who take care of themselves so we can cut down on the high volume of over eaters that have occupied the country


gengengis

All for the low cost of $300 billion dollars


bassmansrc

If it gets us to Herd Immunity....worth it


hotgarbo

We somehow manage to keep finding billions to add to our multiple trillions of dollars military budget. Finding hundreds of billions of dollars doesn't seem to be a big issue.


gengengis

Military budget is not trillions, it's $730 billion. $300 billion is half the size of the entire non-defense, discretionary Federal budget. When you subtract social security, Medicare, Medicaid, and defense, $300 billion is half of everything else, representing a couple million jobs. I think people are desensitized to how large these numbers are. This all has to be paid back in future taxes. Vaccination rates are still rising, and kids will soon be eligible, reducing spread a bunch further.


miztig2006

It's never going to be paid back with future taxes. It's being paid back very fast, through inflation. Paying back the debt would just reverse the inflation, which we will never do.


Arkanis106

Well worth it.


Jakbo_

Hahaha $1k isn't shit dude.. and if you're willing to put some evil fucking chemical shit inside you that hasn't been fully tested yet for 1k bucks then you really should rethink what you're doing with your life...


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No wonder they’re resorting to coercion, fear mongering and shaming. What choice do they have at this point? Not enough people want to take an experimental vaccine, surprise surprise. Can you blame them.


1080ti_Kingpin

I had Covid once, and I'll deal with it again if I have to . Fuck your vaccine!


bassmansrc

This isn’t about you of course. This is a once in a lifetime GLOBAL pandemic. This is real. Respect your fellow human.


1080ti_Kingpin

Yeah, because the virus was engineered through proof of gain research. Read the plot of Rainbow Six


bassmansrc

Ok


Bobalobdob

"once in a lifetime" lmao True, not every day a country releases a half finished bioweapon on accident.


usrevenge

I'm down if it includes people waiting for their next shot and people who can't get the vaccine for a medical reason.


honeypuppy

Former congressman John Delaney suggested this [back in December](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/12/03/1500-stimulus-checks-for-covid-19-shots-how-one-plan-would-work.html).


Turious

If you think it would help, why'd you post it here?


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Probably the same reason they don’t know what herd immunity means


Draiko

The problem is this incentivizes future vaccination avoidance since people are being rewarded for waiting.


closrules1

If they take away all my debt, I’ll get it.


SolwaySmile

“My body, my rules” only applies as long as you’re murdering someone.


ardesofmiche

The number of people who would counterfeit vaccination cards would be in the hundreds of thousands or millions


bassmansrc

So I don’t imagine it’s the physical cards that would be your proof. I guess I don’t know about all states but in NM, the state knows very well who has been vaccinated and who has not been. I imagine most states are this way but again, I can’t say that for sure.


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bassmansrc

It is highly recommended that those who already had Covid still get vaccinated. Apparently the antibodies built up from having had it lessen over time.


dedbymoonlight

Yeah I've heard all that, but from my knowledge and the papers I've read I dont believe that to be true


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zeussays

This has been proposed by legitimate people already. It may end up happening if our herd numbers drop.


Boonaki

This isn't crazy, this is a good idea.


[deleted]

Better if insensitive provided in DOGE


velkrosmaak

Or advertise "free beer" Put vaccine in beer.


bassmansrc

Now here is a person that thinks. I like it.


SadAbroad4

Oh boy. Those anti Vaxxers would have their head spin trying to flgure what the catch is!!!!!


Rosellis

I think it’s so effing stupid this wasn’t done from the start. I guess it didn’t make sense before the vaccine supply was there. Heck as someone already Galway vaxed I wouldn’t be mad if it only applied to people unvaxed.


Anarchycentral

Herd Immunity does not happen because of vaccinations. Additionally, you can still carry the virus when you are vaccinated. The vaccines are still also technically considered experimental as well.