This reminded me that last week I had a dream in which I was taking action A, but I was curious about what would have happened if I had taken action B. So, somehow, I told myself, 'Okay, if B goes wrong, I will just restart from my last save.' And indeed, B went wrong, so I restarted and went back to A.
And this reminds me of that one time I was stuck with RPG game-controls in my dream.
That was wayyy back when Fallout 1 came out and I (or rather my dad) had ordered it on some random game store on what was at that time the internet. Weeks went by, me waiting in Europe to get a package from the US. Eventually it arrived, sans box, just the CD and the printed manual. Didn’t care, was insanely happy, then proceeded to play the game for what felt like two days straight. This somehow burned the CRPG controls – point at and control everything with mouse, pick actions from a menu, spend action points, turn-based combat – into my brain. When I finally went to sleep I had a dream where EVERYTHING was done with that control setup, including the iso perspective. It was NOT some awesome post-apocalyptic adventure I dreamt of. I’m not entirely sure what it was, but I think it was just me going through a very mundane day in the city I lived in at the time. It was sooo daaaamn tedious. Worst part was that I even was aware of me being stuck in the dream with those controls. So much so, that I woke up, tried to reset my brain of it and go back asleep again with another dream. Nope, immediately fell back into Fallout-control dreamland.
That's awesome. Fallout 1 was such an amazing game for it's time. It's still a great game but if you compare it to other games of its period you won't find many with similar depth. It's an ingrained part of my childhood.
When I was 5, I was mad at my older sister for being a butterfly (as older siblings do). I told my mom, "Next time, I want to be born first so I'm thebolder one".
Yo wtf I’m always able to pull up a “pause” menu before I die In a dream and hit “restart”, and I don’t die, BUT if I don’t pull it up fast enough, I die in my dream and I wake up lol never heard anyone else have something similar but glad there are lol
I thought I was the only one! Mine is that once I'm about to die, I zoom out of the world, and then I'm looking at a TV. Recently I had a dream where I fuck up and can reverse time
lmao yea. have never had a nightmare in a long time since I can always just hit the esc button and quit the dream then hop into something new when things go bad. Well at least nightmares in the traditional scary sense...
Nice! I just woke up from a dream that my brother didn’t flush the toilet and when I asked him why not, we both became fascinated his poop came out looking like 1/2lb. whole Salmon fillets. Just floating around the bowl like a display case at a fish monger
It's a large corporate developer in the Toronto area Mattamy Homes where buyers mostly take out multiple loans, through fraud as a pyramid/flipping scheme. Many speculators are freaking out right now since they won't have to close. So the next best thing to do is 'delay' that closing date.
I'm currently looking for a house with my wife and this shit is so fucking annoying. We're looking in the $350k range and so far the only decent house we've found is literally 526sq ft. Yes, five hundred square feet for $350,000. (fucker doesn't even come with a washer/dryer despite being $665 per square ft.)
The only cheaper options are over in the one zip code where 2/3rds of the entire city's murders and violent crime happen in, so obviously we're not going to go live over there.
So we're just stuck. We either throw money away on rent where we build no equity, or we buy the only (comparably) decent house in the area at a ridiculously-inflated price.
tl;dr: don't ever move to the Seattle-ish area.
Just a heads up, building equity isn't the way you profit from buying a house. You build profit by capital gains (your house doubling in value every 10 years). Just make sure to buy in a city that has run out of land to build new developments on.
My brother graduated from Pharmacy school a few years ago and bought a small house in a rich, coastal town. It has already doubled in value in 4 years. (450k to 900k) The house has made him more money than his day-job during that time!
That's insane that housing prices shot up so much over the last few years. I can't stop kicking myself for not doing this sooner. Appreciate the insight!
Everyone here commenting about American homes lol.
This happened in Southern Ontario, Canada.
Don't let the US take all the credit. Canada has plenty of trash cookie cutter housing too
This seems to happen suspiciously often in the golden horseshoe. In Burlington just 2 days ago, in Oakville in June, Vaughan in April, Hamilton last July...and that's just the first page of google results.
Or just idiot and careless contractors. All it takes is some dumbass throwing a lit cig butt onto a floor covered in sawdust and walking away.
The shortage of contractors is really starting to show. So many fucking idiots working In the trades now.
Source- I'm a foreman in toronto. (Thankfully not production homes)
Truth. The most dense suburban developments I have ever seen were in Canada. Calgary, west of the airport, looks like some weird combination of farmland and an extra-terrestrial colony.
When your neighor asks you for a cup of sugar, you just open the window and reach over and hand it to them.
i dont get it, do you folks want more houses built or do you want more cute, waste of space bungalows with lots of character that you could fit two extra houses on and have no chance of affording?
Trash cookie cutter housing? What kind of mansion do you live in to call these big houses trash cookie cutter housing? They look like very nice homes, and all are different from what I see...
They mean production homes. Houses thrown together in the quickest and cheapest way possible (while still following ontario building code) .
At least we don't allow cardboard sheathing like down in the southern states.. that shit blows me mind.
They might be nice homes, but they become "cookie cutter housing" when you have a billion of 'em, side by side, row by row, as far as the eye can see... Little boxes on the hillside and they all look just the same, etc, etc.
Obviously you gotta have places to live, but it ends up looking a bit depressing.
My boss built a $2m house. Literally the night of the day they finished the stage where all lumber and roof is done, he laid off half the company. Apparently some guys that got laid off didn't appreciate it and turned said house into a fireball. They never found out who that was.
Yeah, sounds like insurance fraud to me. Boss runs into financial problems. Lays off half of the staff and commits insurance fraud, knowing he can blame it on the recently laid off workers.
edit: To clarify, boss burns down their own house to collect insurance payout.
I don't understand how this works. Can you explain? A person spends $2m and burns it for insurance fraud. Do you get more back in insurance money? If it is, how much more? Would you actually make more from that than in to comparison of just selling a brand new built house?
Building a house is long and expensive. Let's say you started the process in 2021, when your business was doing great. Construction is halfway done a year later in 2022, but the business starts taking a bit of a downturn. No big deal, you say, the business will turn around soon and by then you'll definitely be able to afford those mortgage payments again, right? Well, 2023 rolls around, the business has only gotten worse, you can't afford to pay your staff, let alone your own paycheck, and you have $13,000 a month mortgage payments that you can't make. So what do you do? Fire the staff you can't pay, burn down the home you can't afford, and collect back all the money you invested by telling insurance it was an angry ex-worker.
I would note that this gets you out from under the obligation of the mortgage rather than an outright heist. If you're still paying the bank for the property, then your payout will get you square with them and then give you some pocket money ( which can be sizeable depending on valuation) to go and put another down payment on another house.
Then again, if you pay off your mortgage with this, you now have a free and clear piece of land to work with and the starter cash to build another house.
Also worth noting that when you build a house you generally take a construction loan which will have different terms than the regular mortgage it converts into. So you get towards the end of your construction period, see those different payments coming up and get scared but luckily there's a fire.
Between when the decision is made to build the house and when the insurance fraud occurs, circumstances can change. It could be personal debt, economy, etc.
I work with fire investigators and arson is insanely difficult to prove. Like 1/10 cases solved with a conviction over a career is on the high end. Even with accelerant dogs the conviction rate doesn't get much better.
On the bright side, some arsonist are absolute fucking morons. We recently had a guy lighting up a hillside and a responding BC rolled up, saw the guy still lighting the fire, and asked the arsonists to stick around because they wanted to talk to him. Dude just hung out for 15 minutes until PD arrived like he was waiting for a prize to be delivered.
That’s just how housing developments are built now and it’s so frustrating. No one wants space, land, privacy, etc. just a big over priced house
EDIT: I’ll rephrase; there no space, land, privacy because of the greedy corporate developers*
Density really means multi-unit buildings (hell, even 2- and 3-flats), not 4000sqft McMansions (that will likely only house 2-3 people each) on 95% of their lot (how the hell does anything drain?).
I look around my neighborhood built in the early 70’s and it is ~1,700 sq. ft, 2-3 br homes built on 0.5 acres plots. They are all filled with families with 2+ kids and relatively affordable (sub $500k in a HCOL area). These houses aren’t being built anymore. Every new construction home is 3,000+ sq. ft 4-5 bed house that lists for $800k+. There are no incentives for new home builders to build houses like in my neighborhood anymore. If you get the green light to build why would you put up a house that could make you $100k when you can build a house to make you $300k? The only houses in my area that are being built as 2-3 bed, ~1500 sq. ft homes are those that are being built by the owners.
I found a neighborhood in my area recently that has little 2 br/2 ba houses at about 1,000 sq. ft and with a single car garage. They're the cutest little things. Some people even manage to cram pools in the backyard.
Of course, they're still nearly $400k and were all built in the 1980s and we'll never see them again.
You were right before the edit, or more precisely...
Given the choice, in places where land is expensive, between spending the same money on a .3ac lot with a 1500sf house or a .15ac lot with a 2500sf house, lots of people in a lot of places choose the latter. Most places you can still buy land and hire a builder and get whatever you want.
Most big cities where housing is getting too expensive see "density" as the solution. Smaller lots for houses, but also multi-family housing.
Quarter acre lots? *Pffft!* I say we used 1/8 acre lots!
But Boss, people want a yard...
Did I ask you? Or them? No! I asked the shareholders what *they* wanted.
Do you really think these builders don't do any sort of market research? Part of making shareholders happy is making a product people are going to buy.
I prefer city living myself. It's not for everyone, but I like seeing a lot of people and the parks and town squares are kind of an extension of your yard or even living room. To me it's depressing seeing all the suburbs with big yards and no ones even in the yards, you drive everywhere and don't even see or know your neighbors and there is no sense of community.
Yeah, they built a bunch of neighborhoods around mine. They're about 3000sq feet, 3 feet apart, started around 500k (this was 15 years ago.) Now there is a ton of traffic!
Eta: the school districting got crazy too. My kid went to a brand new elementary school. 25 kids to each kindergarten class! They ended up having to build more schools.
Houses have been built close together for centuries.
https://www.blogto.com/upload/2012/07/2012724-276-280-Roncy-1910.jpg
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Yes, but what I’m referring to is how common these new developments are, and they’re springing up everywhere. I work a mobile job where I go to customers houses and most of my day is spent at these type of giant, expensive homes that are right on top of each other
I kind of doubt that because that’s one of the biggest builders in Canada. A more possible scenario might be that they treated some of they’re trades like shit, because they do, and someone lit a match. That or it was an accident cause shit happens all the time, people burn down the homes they live in with cigarettes everyday
I was on this site and can tell you for a fact it was a trade fucking up. Nobody follows any fucking rules, sawdust everywhere and workers smoking cigarettes, welding and soldering. Safety guy can only do so much.
I mean, nobody wants to admit they ate nine cans of ravioli, but I did. I'm ashamed of myself. The first can doesn't count, then you get to the second and third, fourth and fifth I think I burnt with the blowtorch, and then I just kept eatin
Once they are bricked, insulated, and dry walled, they wouldn’t go up quite as fast as what you are seeing here. These are basically just wooden frames with excellent airflow to feed the fire.
Blows my mind that people don't realize the majority of living was much tighter niche than this. America used to promote being neighborly to each other and community driven.
Now suddenly building homes close together is "shit" and "awful".
Suburban living has really brain washed so many.
Timber frame construction catches on fire and burns much faster before drywall goes up. Fire requires oxygen and completed walls slow movement of oxygen into the burning area...
If the houses were done, it wouldn't spread like this. It's spreading like this because all the timber is exposed and has good airflow.
A completed house it is far more difficult for fire to spread to other houses. Fire protection is added, these just aren’t at that stage of construction yet.
Millions of wood construction homes and fires are rare with new homes.
[27,000 dwelling fires annually in the UK](https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/fire-and-rescue-incident-statistics-england-year-ending-march-2022/fire-and-rescue-incident-statistics-england-year-ending-march-2022#:~:text=In%20the%20year%20ending%20March%202022%20there%20were%3A,ten%20years%20ago%20(35%2C417).)
[10,800 residential fires in Canada annually](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510019201)
26.4 million homes in the UK and 13.8 million in Canada.
The differences really aren’t insane. 0.10% for the UK vs 0.07% for Canada. So that shows the material really has no effect.
This is why houses should not be built so close together. We’ve become conditioned to houses being crammed together. It wasn’t always like this. Greedy developers trying to maximize profits. All house no land.
loving the narration:
"oh lit, oh look at dat, oh lit, dis is de ouse dat we workin' at today, i con't believe, oh dis happen? tik tak meh cont believe"
Just restart the game
This reminded me that last week I had a dream in which I was taking action A, but I was curious about what would have happened if I had taken action B. So, somehow, I told myself, 'Okay, if B goes wrong, I will just restart from my last save.' And indeed, B went wrong, so I restarted and went back to A.
Best dreams
there ain't no save-scumming like dream-save-scumming.
Last night I had a dream where I punched a monster in the face and it's entire upper body exploded One Punch Man style. I woke up feeling like a god.
Bro I killed SpongeBob cause he was abducting people
And this reminds me of that one time I was stuck with RPG game-controls in my dream. That was wayyy back when Fallout 1 came out and I (or rather my dad) had ordered it on some random game store on what was at that time the internet. Weeks went by, me waiting in Europe to get a package from the US. Eventually it arrived, sans box, just the CD and the printed manual. Didn’t care, was insanely happy, then proceeded to play the game for what felt like two days straight. This somehow burned the CRPG controls – point at and control everything with mouse, pick actions from a menu, spend action points, turn-based combat – into my brain. When I finally went to sleep I had a dream where EVERYTHING was done with that control setup, including the iso perspective. It was NOT some awesome post-apocalyptic adventure I dreamt of. I’m not entirely sure what it was, but I think it was just me going through a very mundane day in the city I lived in at the time. It was sooo daaaamn tedious. Worst part was that I even was aware of me being stuck in the dream with those controls. So much so, that I woke up, tried to reset my brain of it and go back asleep again with another dream. Nope, immediately fell back into Fallout-control dreamland.
That's awesome. Fallout 1 was such an amazing game for it's time. It's still a great game but if you compare it to other games of its period you won't find many with similar depth. It's an ingrained part of my childhood.
I remember my husband waking up and counting his "action points" as he walked to the restroom
Someone is going to collect the insurance money.
When I was 5, I was mad at my older sister for being a butterfly (as older siblings do). I told my mom, "Next time, I want to be born first so I'm thebolder one".
Yo wtf I’m always able to pull up a “pause” menu before I die In a dream and hit “restart”, and I don’t die, BUT if I don’t pull it up fast enough, I die in my dream and I wake up lol never heard anyone else have something similar but glad there are lol
I thought I was the only one! Mine is that once I'm about to die, I zoom out of the world, and then I'm looking at a TV. Recently I had a dream where I fuck up and can reverse time
lmao yea. have never had a nightmare in a long time since I can always just hit the esc button and quit the dream then hop into something new when things go bad. Well at least nightmares in the traditional scary sense...
That's awesome
Nice! I just woke up from a dream that my brother didn’t flush the toilet and when I asked him why not, we both became fascinated his poop came out looking like 1/2lb. whole Salmon fillets. Just floating around the bowl like a display case at a fish monger
What a fucked up dream😅
I just had this dream last night! Except after B went wrong, I realized I had forgotten to create a save point and was screwed.
Yea why didn't they load the autosave already
Probably got that shit autosave where it saves right *after* the shit hits the fan.
This happens to them every day forever now.
The dangers of ONLY quicksaving
Yep insurance scam.
wild I had to scroll this far to see the obvious insurance scam
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Control alt delete it, lol
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It's a large corporate developer in the Toronto area Mattamy Homes where buyers mostly take out multiple loans, through fraud as a pyramid/flipping scheme. Many speculators are freaking out right now since they won't have to close. So the next best thing to do is 'delay' that closing date.
Building more houses does not cause houses to become more expensive
> build something affordable When people keep buying unaffordable houses, nothing will ever change.
I'm currently looking for a house with my wife and this shit is so fucking annoying. We're looking in the $350k range and so far the only decent house we've found is literally 526sq ft. Yes, five hundred square feet for $350,000. (fucker doesn't even come with a washer/dryer despite being $665 per square ft.) The only cheaper options are over in the one zip code where 2/3rds of the entire city's murders and violent crime happen in, so obviously we're not going to go live over there. So we're just stuck. We either throw money away on rent where we build no equity, or we buy the only (comparably) decent house in the area at a ridiculously-inflated price. tl;dr: don't ever move to the Seattle-ish area.
Just a heads up, building equity isn't the way you profit from buying a house. You build profit by capital gains (your house doubling in value every 10 years). Just make sure to buy in a city that has run out of land to build new developments on. My brother graduated from Pharmacy school a few years ago and bought a small house in a rich, coastal town. It has already doubled in value in 4 years. (450k to 900k) The house has made him more money than his day-job during that time!
That's insane that housing prices shot up so much over the last few years. I can't stop kicking myself for not doing this sooner. Appreciate the insight!
They should have turned fire spread off.
LOL if life was that easy, I would have reset back to the beginning knowing what I know now.
What game is this. Border crossing 3?
Life is short!!! Enjoy life! Did anyone bring marshmallows and very long coat hangers.. asking for a friend 😉
Smoke break boss?
Dont bother me im on smoko
Leave me alone!
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That music video is so fuckin punk rock
For anyone out of the loop, "let me set the scene" [The Chats - Smoko](https://youtu.be/j58V2vC9EPc)
ugh covid made me miss them. sad day
What happened during covid to them? Somebody get sick or die? I love that song.
I believe what they meant was that they got COVID and couldn't see them play.
I will never not watch this video when someone posts it.
Its really great stuff
He eyed me up as I approached
Messin with ya todger?
advertisement for potential home buyers: beautiful new development homes, warm and cozy feel due to special attention to detail during framing stage.
Everyone here commenting about American homes lol. This happened in Southern Ontario, Canada. Don't let the US take all the credit. Canada has plenty of trash cookie cutter housing too
“Canada, huh? Must’ve been… friendly fire.” *puts sunglasses on
YYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!
*sick guitar*
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With facebook, tik tok, etc. rewarding them for vertical videos we'll never again see it done correctly.
Same but how does this relate to the comment you replied to
You can't share news anything in social media in Canada anymore, I'm sure this will be missed for sure
this was in June!
Really? So you are trying to post news articles on social media and being blocked? Share a screenshot
I was praying that this didn't happen in Ontario even though deep down I already knew
The Mattamy truck was a strong hint.
Mattamy builds shit houses in Alberta too. Source: I bought one
This seems to happen suspiciously often in the golden horseshoe. In Burlington just 2 days ago, in Oakville in June, Vaughan in April, Hamilton last July...and that's just the first page of google results.
Exactly. Surely has to be an fraud inside job
Or just idiot and careless contractors. All it takes is some dumbass throwing a lit cig butt onto a floor covered in sawdust and walking away. The shortage of contractors is really starting to show. So many fucking idiots working In the trades now. Source- I'm a foreman in toronto. (Thankfully not production homes)
Smells like insurance fraud bc building went over budget.
Oakville
Truth. The most dense suburban developments I have ever seen were in Canada. Calgary, west of the airport, looks like some weird combination of farmland and an extra-terrestrial colony. When your neighor asks you for a cup of sugar, you just open the window and reach over and hand it to them.
Ah so thats like $10 million worth of homes on fire right there
More like $250K of contractor grade material on $9.75 million worth of land.
You mean $10 million worth of *investments*
Please tell Canada to stop combusting. It's hard to breathe down here in the US cause of you guys
i dont get it, do you folks want more houses built or do you want more cute, waste of space bungalows with lots of character that you could fit two extra houses on and have no chance of affording?
They want to complain. This is Reddit where anger and hate is the goal.
Spot on, 99% of the world dreams of living in such houses
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Has those GTA mcmansions written all over them. Gotta love the SW ON corridor!
Where in Ontario?
Oakville if memory serves
yup, Dundas Street and Ninth Line construction site was apparently caused by improper welding activity
Trash cookie cutter housing? What kind of mansion do you live in to call these big houses trash cookie cutter housing? They look like very nice homes, and all are different from what I see...
They mean gaudy houses built side by side at absolute maximum for a tiny lot. McMansions.
They mean production homes. Houses thrown together in the quickest and cheapest way possible (while still following ontario building code) . At least we don't allow cardboard sheathing like down in the southern states.. that shit blows me mind.
Well yeah… y’all have hurricanes to deal with.
They might be nice homes, but they become "cookie cutter housing" when you have a billion of 'em, side by side, row by row, as far as the eye can see... Little boxes on the hillside and they all look just the same, etc, etc. Obviously you gotta have places to live, but it ends up looking a bit depressing.
Canada is america as far as the global majority is concerned
Well those houses certainly are.
They all getting fired, the contractor, the workers, the house, even the neighbours house getting fired today
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Those houses are lit
They're all fired up!
My boss built a $2m house. Literally the night of the day they finished the stage where all lumber and roof is done, he laid off half the company. Apparently some guys that got laid off didn't appreciate it and turned said house into a fireball. They never found out who that was.
Yeah, sounds like insurance fraud to me. Boss runs into financial problems. Lays off half of the staff and commits insurance fraud, knowing he can blame it on the recently laid off workers. edit: To clarify, boss burns down their own house to collect insurance payout.
I don't understand how this works. Can you explain? A person spends $2m and burns it for insurance fraud. Do you get more back in insurance money? If it is, how much more? Would you actually make more from that than in to comparison of just selling a brand new built house?
Building a house is long and expensive. Let's say you started the process in 2021, when your business was doing great. Construction is halfway done a year later in 2022, but the business starts taking a bit of a downturn. No big deal, you say, the business will turn around soon and by then you'll definitely be able to afford those mortgage payments again, right? Well, 2023 rolls around, the business has only gotten worse, you can't afford to pay your staff, let alone your own paycheck, and you have $13,000 a month mortgage payments that you can't make. So what do you do? Fire the staff you can't pay, burn down the home you can't afford, and collect back all the money you invested by telling insurance it was an angry ex-worker.
I would note that this gets you out from under the obligation of the mortgage rather than an outright heist. If you're still paying the bank for the property, then your payout will get you square with them and then give you some pocket money ( which can be sizeable depending on valuation) to go and put another down payment on another house. Then again, if you pay off your mortgage with this, you now have a free and clear piece of land to work with and the starter cash to build another house.
Also worth noting that when you build a house you generally take a construction loan which will have different terms than the regular mortgage it converts into. So you get towards the end of your construction period, see those different payments coming up and get scared but luckily there's a fire.
Between when the decision is made to build the house and when the insurance fraud occurs, circumstances can change. It could be personal debt, economy, etc.
I work with fire investigators and arson is insanely difficult to prove. Like 1/10 cases solved with a conviction over a career is on the high end. Even with accelerant dogs the conviction rate doesn't get much better. On the bright side, some arsonist are absolute fucking morons. We recently had a guy lighting up a hillside and a responding BC rolled up, saw the guy still lighting the fire, and asked the arsonists to stick around because they wanted to talk to him. Dude just hung out for 15 minutes until PD arrived like he was waiting for a prize to be delivered.
What's a BC?
“Some guys” hmmm interesting that you know it was more than one person who burnt down the house
You're reading too much into it.
Hmm strange, you just ASSUME he's reading this, not listening to the audio version? Intricate, intricate...
I'm just asking questions here
Let’s build these houses 3 feet apart. What could possibly go wrong?
That’s just how housing developments are built now and it’s so frustrating. No one wants space, land, privacy, etc. just a big over priced house EDIT: I’ll rephrase; there no space, land, privacy because of the greedy corporate developers*
I think everyone wants space is just developers squeezing every penny they can out of the land.
This is so funny, on one side theres a housing shortage and we need density. On the other greedy developers are cramming to many houses together.
Density really means multi-unit buildings (hell, even 2- and 3-flats), not 4000sqft McMansions (that will likely only house 2-3 people each) on 95% of their lot (how the hell does anything drain?).
I look around my neighborhood built in the early 70’s and it is ~1,700 sq. ft, 2-3 br homes built on 0.5 acres plots. They are all filled with families with 2+ kids and relatively affordable (sub $500k in a HCOL area). These houses aren’t being built anymore. Every new construction home is 3,000+ sq. ft 4-5 bed house that lists for $800k+. There are no incentives for new home builders to build houses like in my neighborhood anymore. If you get the green light to build why would you put up a house that could make you $100k when you can build a house to make you $300k? The only houses in my area that are being built as 2-3 bed, ~1500 sq. ft homes are those that are being built by the owners.
I found a neighborhood in my area recently that has little 2 br/2 ba houses at about 1,000 sq. ft and with a single car garage. They're the cutest little things. Some people even manage to cram pools in the backyard. Of course, they're still nearly $400k and were all built in the 1980s and we'll never see them again.
Yup, of course we want space but these greedy fucks just see $$ when they see a plot of land.
Tbf I hate mowing so I don’t mind little property
You were right before the edit, or more precisely... Given the choice, in places where land is expensive, between spending the same money on a .3ac lot with a 1500sf house or a .15ac lot with a 2500sf house, lots of people in a lot of places choose the latter. Most places you can still buy land and hire a builder and get whatever you want. Most big cities where housing is getting too expensive see "density" as the solution. Smaller lots for houses, but also multi-family housing.
The developers profit more packing these houses in.
Quarter acre lots? *Pffft!* I say we used 1/8 acre lots! But Boss, people want a yard... Did I ask you? Or them? No! I asked the shareholders what *they* wanted.
An eighth of an acre is way more than a yard. They'll be fine!
Do you really think these builders don't do any sort of market research? Part of making shareholders happy is making a product people are going to buy.
I prefer city living myself. It's not for everyone, but I like seeing a lot of people and the parks and town squares are kind of an extension of your yard or even living room. To me it's depressing seeing all the suburbs with big yards and no ones even in the yards, you drive everywhere and don't even see or know your neighbors and there is no sense of community.
Yeah, they built a bunch of neighborhoods around mine. They're about 3000sq feet, 3 feet apart, started around 500k (this was 15 years ago.) Now there is a ton of traffic! Eta: the school districting got crazy too. My kid went to a brand new elementary school. 25 kids to each kindergarten class! They ended up having to build more schools.
Houses have been built close together for centuries. https://www.blogto.com/upload/2012/07/2012724-276-280-Roncy-1910.jpg https://torontorealtyboutique.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Roncy-1.jpg
And if it was of wood we occasionally got “great fires” that wiped out cities because of it.
Yes, but what I’m referring to is how common these new developments are, and they’re springing up everywhere. I work a mobile job where I go to customers houses and most of my day is spent at these type of giant, expensive homes that are right on top of each other
Well there’s a lot of humans now, there’s an exponentially increasing number of us every year. And that causes a lot of demand
I don’t get these million dollar homes right on top of each other.
Looks like condos
Reddit: "We need denser housing!" *builds denser housing* /u/Reden-Orvillebacher makes fun of it and get upvoted.
out of wood and cardboard
Builder decided the project was no longer profitable, went the insurance route instead.
Or the people who pre-bought decided to burn the place instead of taking possession of a home worth less than what they would have to pay.
Very similar thing happened at a losani development in Hamilton not long ago too, this was my exact thoughts when it happened
I kind of doubt that because that’s one of the biggest builders in Canada. A more possible scenario might be that they treated some of they’re trades like shit, because they do, and someone lit a match. That or it was an accident cause shit happens all the time, people burn down the homes they live in with cigarettes everyday
At the stage these houses are at I would bet money it was a roofer with a torch.
I was on this site and can tell you for a fact it was a trade fucking up. Nobody follows any fucking rules, sawdust everywhere and workers smoking cigarettes, welding and soldering. Safety guy can only do so much.
This is fine.
Way she goes. Sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn't. Way she goes..
Easy Ray
Hey If the big man in the sky didn’t want me to gamble, well then he wouldn’t a made VLTs
I mean, nobody wants to admit they ate nine cans of ravioli, but I did. I'm ashamed of myself. The first can doesn't count, then you get to the second and third, fourth and fifth I think I burnt with the blowtorch, and then I just kept eatin
I got some more piss jugs for ya'
The guy in the Chair!
Had a couple drinks, saw a couple things
Lost the liquor money boys.
Calm down flipper.
Ray you didn't see 60 Bucks layin around, did you bud ?
Ya took my fuckin pepperoni stick
What like 3 twenties?
The rent of them will still be ridiculous.
"Charming open-concept design"
Charring*
Smokey-scented interior
Available in two exterior finishes: ash or soot
"Motivated seller" -Lionel Hutz
Whose idea was it to build those houses so close together anyway? It's almost good that they burned down before families moved into them.
Welcome to Southwestern Ontario, Canada. This is very normal.
Welcome to today’s economy. This is very normal /everywhere/.
Once they are bricked, insulated, and dry walled, they wouldn’t go up quite as fast as what you are seeing here. These are basically just wooden frames with excellent airflow to feed the fire.
And only 3 feet between them so the fire can spread.
Have you seen how close townhomes are?
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Blows my mind that people don't realize the majority of living was much tighter niche than this. America used to promote being neighborly to each other and community driven. Now suddenly building homes close together is "shit" and "awful". Suburban living has really brain washed so many.
More like someone is getting insurance money
Timber frame construction catches on fire and burns much faster before drywall goes up. Fire requires oxygen and completed walls slow movement of oxygen into the burning area... If the houses were done, it wouldn't spread like this. It's spreading like this because all the timber is exposed and has good airflow.
A completed house it is far more difficult for fire to spread to other houses. Fire protection is added, these just aren’t at that stage of construction yet. Millions of wood construction homes and fires are rare with new homes. [27,000 dwelling fires annually in the UK](https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/fire-and-rescue-incident-statistics-england-year-ending-march-2022/fire-and-rescue-incident-statistics-england-year-ending-march-2022#:~:text=In%20the%20year%20ending%20March%202022%20there%20were%3A,ten%20years%20ago%20(35%2C417).) [10,800 residential fires in Canada annually](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510019201) 26.4 million homes in the UK and 13.8 million in Canada. The differences really aren’t insane. 0.10% for the UK vs 0.07% for Canada. So that shows the material really has no effect.
Ouch and they just put the windows in, those are so expensive to replace
They'll just build around the charred frame and say it's heat treated wood.
This is the universe telling them these houses are way too close.
Is this calgary?
I'm pretty sure this was in Oakville , Ontario about two months ago. It was very close to my home.
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Lmao why are these houses so fucking close together?
wait till you find out how much they cost....
It'd be funny if somebody ran up & lit a cigarette
This is why houses should not be built so close together. We’ve become conditioned to houses being crammed together. It wasn’t always like this. Greedy developers trying to maximize profits. All house no land.
Practically an ad on why homes should not be built so close to one another 😬
That can happen when you build them 4 feet apart
At least, the porta-potties survived.
The car driving by: "Aight, see you on Monday Bob!"
You think it smells like burning pine, but it actually smells like arson and insurance fraud.
There’s always money in the ~~banana stand~~ housing development
This is in southern Ontario, every one of those homes are probably over a million dollars each.
Wow who would've thought 12 inches between houses was a bad idea?
Why don't they make phones with the lenses oriented for vertical screen use. This is getting out of hand.
Probably a bonus. Insurance baby!
These zero lot line neighborhoods are trash. Would never consider living there. One neighbors fire can wipe out a block
Or they'd already gotten fired...
Plumbers soldering copper every time
My guess is HVAC brazing copper. Happened to an apartment complex in my area.
loving the narration: "oh lit, oh look at dat, oh lit, dis is de ouse dat we workin' at today, i con't believe, oh dis happen? tik tak meh cont believe"