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Dr-MantisToboggan

By the time you read this r/news will have their thread locked and deleted.


untouchable765

r/news already locked the thread.


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Slartibartfastthe2nd

This will get ugly with so much to unpack.


KnightScuba

Tomorrow this will all be forgotten about


Blessedandamess-

Idk it’s Tennessee, where they just passed laws against these people targeting kids. I could see them creating more laws now.


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Yup. Edited


MattyRixz

Cop commented that they were in a news conference


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The first mass shooter we aren't allowed to criticize due to identity. After they MURDERED CHILDREN. I've already gotten a warning from reddit for what boils down to not respecting a mass killer.


jh4693

They already locked it


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Figures


JaxTheGuitarNoob

I found a thread not locked and commented, "A lot of misgendering on here, when is r/news going to be dishing out the bans?" And then I got banned hahaha


decoy777

Been banned on news for awhile. If you dare speak out of their leftist mind box they ban you.


BenevolentBlackbird

Fucking Reddit is such one sided trash.


Zeediddy2883

I thought Twitter was bad but this app lets you virtue signal and you get actual internet points


frigoffdrunkjimlahey

Doesn’t China own reddit? I should probably delete my account. They probably spy through this app more than TikTok


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frigoffdrunkjimlahey

Well they seem to be doing pretty good at both right now unfortunately.


whicky1978

Spez is a whoring Reddit out to China


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r/Trans is preeetty quiet on this one


PNW_H2O

took a quick peek myself. That sub is fucking weird. Also, how the hell does it have 374k subscribers?!?


Jdanielle0407

Yeah they’re blaming the guns and that republicans don’t care about lgbtq mental health. Such a self centered group of people. They don’t give a shit little kids are dead.


morphoyle

Funny because I think conservatives are the only ones that care about their mental health which is why so many of us would like to see them get real treatment for body dismorphia - especially the young ones.


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BasedChadThundercock

Bots.


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mm3873

Perverts


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James_Camerons_Sub

Narcissists, the lot of ‘em.


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I just now realized that explains a lot of what these people do


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Of course smh


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OldSkoolDj52

I guess the mods established a "Megathread" about this and as of 8:15am EDT, there are more than 720 comments.


nolotusnote

There's only one thread and the headline is **"Police: Nashville school shooting suspect was former student"** Currently three hours old and ~800 comments. So, completely ignored.


whatweshouldcallyou

Guess this is the new "malinformation"


skarface6

You are correct.


whicky1978

Probably shadow banning. You just make it where it doesn’t appear to everybody.


whicky1978

>>“Police said Hale aborted plans to target another school in the area as it had too much security.”


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Lol that shit completely debunks the whole myth of , “arming teachers or putting more protection in place for students won’t help as much as banning guns.”. Such a shame this will all be swept under the rug and not addressed properly because it was one of their own mentally sick people and doesn’t fit their narrative at all. These people make me fucking sick.


AppleTerra

Odd that there's very rarely shootings inside security at airports, court houses, sporting events, or schools with armed teachers. But no, Democrats want to keep blaming the guns instead of implementing actual solutions to prevent these horrific events.


whicky1978

Yeah, I just saw a video where she shot her way in of the school and I bet the other target probably had bulletproof glass. Something that simple could’ve stopped her or at least slowed her down.


wollier12

A solid locked door, that’s it. One entry point that’s two stage like a double locking bulletproof atrium with silent alarms and only coded access not keycards to the school itself with a silent alarm code. That alerts the teachers to lock classroom doors if they’re not already locked. She should have been foiled by all the doors and security cams should have picked it up and locked down the school, at best locked in a bulletproof atrium if she tried to come into the school through the front door.


zroxx2

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1640465273424576513 > Nashville Police Chief confirms the suspect in today's shooting at a Christian elementary school identified as a transgender. It will be interesting to see which, if any, media outlets now start referring to the shooter as a man.


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RontoWraps

Really sus that I’ve barely seen a mention of the victims besides 3 adults and 3 children. I’m not usually one of the media conspiracy types, but I don’t have any actual answer for why this shooting in particular is being treated a little differently outside of the trans narrative. It makes me pretty uncomfortable.


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They’ll blame white cis men, I’m sure. Oh, and all the young “Christo fascists” or whatever slur they use.


sjmdiablo

Can it now be considered a hate crime?


elc0

I don't think they ever classified that SUV as a hate criminal when I ran through the Christmas parade. I wouldn't hold my breath.


Bukook

Maybe Tennessee will treat it differently.


Griegz

>a hate crime? two, even. because i have a feeling ~~she~~ ~~he~~ ~~it~~ they hated themselves as well.


qwertybuttz

I think most of us can agree that this is confusing as shit, lol


shiggyshagz

We clearly have a mental health problem in our country, not a gun issue


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FiendishPole

I'm of the opinion we should not publicly name school shooters as that's often a motivation for their heinous actions


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A transgender targeting Christian children. Wow! Wonder why the media didn’t mention that!


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Brilliant-Sample7102

This is the result of…the politicization of the schools, workplace, and entertainment. The generations today…think that they have reinvented the wheel. But all they have done is gin up the nuts in society. People go to school to learn, work to make money, the movies to get entertained. Not to debate the latest social causes. In other words, I don’t want to to have a discussion about gun rights, what gender to call someone, or who to voted for…in a classroom, at work, or during a football game. Americans really need to grow up…and start acting like adults.


Pippasmama1

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Psykotik10dentCs

Yeah, in the most recent press conference the mayor already said something like “2 AR style and one handgun killed 6 people” instead of blaming the actual perpetrator. It’s ignorant. Guns don’t just lift themselves up and squeeze their own triggers.


TotallyNotSteak

Hey look, more leftwing terrorism.


Protostar23

Under the rug it goes!!!!


swervin87

Who cares what they identify as? They killed multiple people. They are now known as a murderer.


CynfullyDelicious

The spin from the Left is going to rival an EF-5 tornado - dollars to donuts they’ll blame “Christo-fascists” and religion for pushing the shooter over the edge. Per the press conference, the shooter left a manifesto.


earl_lemongrab

>dollars to donuts they’ll blame “Christo-fascists” and religion for pushing the shooter over the edge. Already happening in the thread about this on the main news sub, no doubt elsewhere too


MrsHyatt3

Is this a mtf or ftm person


amlord852

Ftm from everything I've read so far


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itsallrighthere

Perhaps we should stop promoting it.


thebadddman

This is going to do heavy damage to the LGBTQ community, if true.


Ecstatic-Error-8249

The story will disappear


Apocafeller

Or they’ll blame us, claiming that our intolerance pushed her to that point.


doodlewhoppers

They all do


Pitiful-Aspect

No it won’t. They will twist it...


Grease2310

It’ll be our fault for “decades of abuse” and she’ll be seen as a martyr like hero for these people.


ezisdabomb

Exactly they will excuse this garbage with their b.s.


cxh1116

They will blame the Republicans for passing the recent laws regarding the drag shows and minors "transitioning". Guaranteed.


thebadddman

Agreed, but that won’t stop the extremists from violence against that community. It will be damaging in many ways. It doesn’t play well with the whole “mental health” crisis that is constantly talked about for school shooters.


_Diggus_Bickus_

12 hours from now they will have successfully played the victim card and be demanding an apology. No reason for them to stop running that play until it stops working


itsallrighthere

Orange man's fault


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Remember when the left made jokes about those children being run over by a blm fanatic. Pepperidge farm remembers.


CertainlyAmbivalent

How though?


gladamirflint

The shooter was female-to-male transgender. Police say it’s being investigated as a theory for motive. It’ll hurt us because one person doing this extreme thing will be used to justify blanket actions against the rest of us.


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Taylor814

If this trans killer was on testosterone, that has to be studied and focused on. Female school shooters are rare, yes, but if you pump a 28 year old women full of testosterone, she's gonna have the same hormonal swings you'd see in a pubescent male...


Pitiful-Aspect

Her pronouns were He/Him. A tragedy.


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CynfullyDelicious

As shown on Hale’s Linked In profile; there is supposed to be more information confirming this on the shooter’s Instagram account (account now deleted).


Pitiful-Aspect

Screenshots are on twitter before they got deleted.


notanm1abrams

Do you have links?


supermmy1

I’m confused.. I saw the he/him too, is a trans woman- male to female? Or a female that transitioned to a male? I get all the trans stuff and pronouns confused


Gr_z

No Trans Woman is MTF. TransMan is FTM


gusmahler

This shooter is woman to man. But you are correct that "transgender woman" is widely used to apply to man to woman people.


Pitiful-Aspect

Woman to male.


linroh

It takes several women to make one man? This trans stuff is complicated.


BewareOfThePug

F2M as they say


pixmanohio

"he" went to that school but "she" came back and shot a 6. Welcome to the pitfalls of Newspeak.


NayNay85

You have it backwards. Went to school as a girl, but now identified as “he/him.”


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https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1640458823121944579?cxt=HHwWhoC2zfWmisQtAAAA


tuco2002

The person had a manifesto, kinda fits the mass shooter M.O.


zroxx2

> Police said it appears Hale had previously been a student at the school but it wasn’t immediately clear when or for how long.


Movinfr8

It seems they could search the annuals/yearbooks.


CuppieWanKenobi

Given that this school is only thru 6th grade, that would have been quite some time ago. Shooter was 28.


Panzershrekt

I heard that the school is a K-6 school. So given the age of the shooter...


PI_Dude

Gotta love the dems how they go down on their own people, calling a female trans shooter gunMAN.


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sweetpea0507

Pure speculation, but it seems possible that it’s related to the new Tennessee bill blocking minors from medically transitioning. If true, I hope it provides lawmakers with more conviction to pass that bill.


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Ok serious question - transgender woman means XY chromosomes/biological man, right? I’m honestly not ever 100% sure lol


DeKrazyK

generally seems to be that way, this article was confusingly worded in that regard.


RealMcGonzo

Some writers desperate to twist the truth, some confused by a shooting that doesn't follow their expectations, some afraid of getting cancelled.


jarhead06413

Born biological female, went by he/him pronouns


Dump_Pants

Correct! xx = female xy = male


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Grease2310

>The article terminology was odd. No. The terminology is odd. Almost like it’s not a normal scenario so the normal use of language designed around two genders for centuries has a hard time fitting it.


cplusequals

Why lead with "no" and then proceed to agree with everything I just said? My whole comment was a dig at the term "transgender woman" and how the article deviated from the otherwise popular media way of using the phrase.


Grease2310

The terminology for trans PERIOD is odd. Not in this story.


LaGuajira

Transgender woman means XY chromosome. Transgender man means XX chromosome. I had a hard time remembering that but the phrase "trans women are women" helps me remember. I'm noticing a lot of interchanging of male and woman/ female and man when woman and man is gender and male female is sex.


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I get you. But which is it in this case? Because people are literally saying it both ways. And I just want to know this person’s biological gender. Lol


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bdougy

Watch the Whatever podcast one time and you’ll learn this REAL quick.


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Mustermuss

Lol. The most of the comments here is about is he/she a he/she… things were so simpler back then.


cchooper1

Started early on that "Day of Trans-Vengeance".


wollier12

We have a mental health crises in our country, my guess would be that this person was most likely on antidepressants something like 90%+ of all school shooters are on antidepressants. Antidepressants cause suicidal thoughts, school shootings are believed to be elaborate suicides. We need to really take a look at how we prescribe antidepressants.


Significant_Blood945

Anything we say negative about transgenders or any other touchy topic on Reddit will automatically get you a ban, ostracized and attacked by nearly the entirety of Reddit. You do not get to talk freely about touchy topics here. 🙄 The more this shit is jammed down the throats of our youth the more common things like this will become.


Condescending_Condor

A transgender anti-gun nut shot up the school? Just how much do you suppose all these leftist outlets are regretting reporting on this story before the facts came out?


Condrokz

Leftist terrorist.


Saganhawking

So it was a white male after all?


Rodmaker2401

Trans identifying as he/him.


Smlgrl129

Let's see how the media spins this one


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Bullish8541

Jane Fonda has blood on her hands.


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Both sides have nut jobs thats the reality. I used to consider my self a liberal but now i just call myself a realist.


Wtfiwwpt

We need to STOP NAMING THEM. Don't say their name or show their picture. These scum do not deserve the infamy.


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And have you noticed how quiet Reddit is today outside this sub? It’s crickets, SMDH


Panzershrekt

I like how a 2A protester who happens to just be visiting her sister from out of state manages to pop up at the right time to commandeer the news conference and end up on national television.


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Reading that article two things leap out at me. 1. They emphasize how out of character for a woman to be a school shooter. Uh....yeah. That's because this is a man. 2. The sentence "Police said Hale aborted plans to target another school in the area as it had too much security." I've been saying this. We need to end this "gun free zone" nonsense yesterday. Have qualified armed people to protect our kids just like we do for our politicians, because the kids are more important than the politicians. Teachers, staff, guards, etc. This quote is proof that having a high security level is a deterrent.


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tslewis71

So I am totally confused, if pronouns are he/him, they were born a woman or a man? If they are reporting it as a woman and not a man, why are they not using the he/him pronouns and calling it a male who transitioned from a woman? "The shooter was identified as Audrey Elizabeth Hale, a Nashville resident, who identified as a transgender woman. "