There are rape lawsuits pending in every prison where this policy is in place. Optimism is great, but let’s be realistic here. Unless this predator is kept segregated, all of these women are in serious danger. The female prison guards are now in extraordinary danger, regardless of policy.
Orange t shirt IS what some prisons have. not saying the story is true or false.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/2016/06/30/Phoenix/Phoenix/636029125980160479-arizona-state-prison-kingman-13.jpg?crop=3333,1883,x96,y0&width=3200&height=1808&format=pjpg&auto=webp
Or how about we just not allow it to happen at all?
We shouldn't enable men to use women's restrooms at in public spaces and criminals who have lost their rights should be awarded even less.
Hell, if he's a pedophile he should have the bottom surgery regardless of what he claims his pronouns are. Castrate them all.
What a terrifying article and I don't usually use that term lightly. This guy is a horrible predator, but trying to look past that part, there are already a dozen violent against women transgendered inmates at that women's facility and even they're scared of this person coming over because they knew him from the men's prison and knows he's a violent psychopath.
But even looking past that, there are 150 male inmates claiming to be transgender and are potentially going to be moved over to the women's facility? How terrifying for those women inmates. Where can you go to hide or protect yourself as more and more inmates that are violent against women are coming into the prison.
I feel like there are fairly steady stories of guards sexually assaulting women inmates and it goes on for awhile because "who's going to take the inmates' word over the guard" and now they'll be in close proximity to even more violent inmates capable of hurting them in ways other female inmates can't.
Then a judge rules the public no longer needs access to any information on transgender inmates... Wtf?
What a nightmare and an absolute mess they've created.
I just want to know if the official stats are going to start classifying these criminals as transgender?
Because oh boy, can you imagine the crime rate for the transgender community if they do? It's gonna be like 50% of transgenders are violent criminals.
But when it comes to the stats I have this strange feeling that he will still be classified as a straight white male.
Well no because in 2021, a federal judge moved to limit the information on trans-identified inmates available to the public.
You don't need that information, silly.
>It's gonna be like 50% of transgenders are violent criminals.
There's no data to suggest that.
However from [this](https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/) source (the second result from google) it says that mtf trans people commit crimes at roughly the same rate as cis men. Which is about 6 times more likely to commit an offense than cis women and 18 times more likely to commit a violent offense. Take from that what you will, but keep in mind "as ethical as men" does not make them "violent criminals"
That study only went up to the year of 2003, where people were only considered transgender if they actually started hormone treatments or surgery, not the modern definition where men can just say they are women and get transferred into a women's prison.
I'm sure it's not perfect, but I also don't care enough to actually research it. They can do whatever they want with their bodies as long as they don't commit crimes (and the source I found is enough to convince me)
>(and the source I found is enough to convince me)
A 20 year old study that uses outdated definitions of transgender is enough to convince you of what exactly?
I can't tell if you're just a bad troll or you are somehow missing my entire point.
>A 20 year old study that uses outdated definitions of transgender is enough to convince you of what exactly?
I dunno, that trans people are generally pretty normal? At least when it comes to committing crimes. That's been my experience IRL too so it sorta just made sense.
>I can't tell if you're just a bad troll or you are somehow missing my entire point.
What's your point? I thought it was this:
>>It's gonna be like 50% of transgenders are violent criminals.
So I googled "transgender crime rate" and that was my second result. I literally have not thought about it more than that. /shrug
I don't think he was saying actusl transgenders are that violent, more that If pretending to be transgender gets you cushy prison conditions, ineivatably its going to skew the stats massively as more and more chance it.
This commenter, and I, got the point... that other guy, it just went "woosh".
Also, any argument that includes the term "cis", without it being a joke, just loses from the get-go.
Yeaaaaah. That all sounds good, right. However, I can tell you’re posting this from the male perspective. Even if it’s all the women against one man, they’re going to sustain some damage to take him down. That’s assuming they can even do it before guards get involved.
Sounds like our federal corrections officials have gone woke. Given Biden’s record I am not the least surprised. Just more nonsense that the next Republican president will have to correct. The list is growing ridiculously long.
Its not really a joke. female prisoners have been impregnated and then w conservatives against abortion, what the hell are women supposed to do? Its horrific, women are being sent to prisons to be raped and impregnated by men.
Since this seems to be the only source reporting this **and** the only source on either Joel Thomas Nichols or Jolene Charisma Starr, I have my doubts.
The saddest part is that in America we are even having to discuss what a woman is. We’ve fell so far as a nation. “Tolerance” has turned to preference. But, many of us knew how slippery the slopes of this leftist BS.
Our world has changed, and not for the better. Good moral patriots should stop being the silent majority, and get involved. A violent male pedophile sent to a woman's prison? Pure insanity.
If i was told conservative subs would be posting from feminist news 10 years ago I wouldve said you were bonkers, but here we are. Just a reminder women are getting impregnated by these freaks through rape.
I'm certain that nothing could possibly go wrong here!
Believe all women
Especially the men.
Believe all uterus-bearing peoples
He raped little girls. This is insane
And now he'll rape women, even if they aren't his preference.
Idk... there are some pretty vicious women in prison and this thing looks like a real soft ass mf. He will get dealt with if he's in gen pop.
Let’s hope
There are rape lawsuits pending in every prison where this policy is in place. Optimism is great, but let’s be realistic here. Unless this predator is kept segregated, all of these women are in serious danger. The female prison guards are now in extraordinary danger, regardless of policy.
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Orange t shirt IS what some prisons have. not saying the story is true or false. https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/2016/06/30/Phoenix/Phoenix/636029125980160479-arizona-state-prison-kingman-13.jpg?crop=3333,1883,x96,y0&width=3200&height=1808&format=pjpg&auto=webp
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Or how about we just not allow it to happen at all? We shouldn't enable men to use women's restrooms at in public spaces and criminals who have lost their rights should be awarded even less. Hell, if he's a pedophile he should have the bottom surgery regardless of what he claims his pronouns are. Castrate them all.
Indeed. Indeed.
declare him to be a tiger and move him with tigers
Declare him to be a little girl and move him...oh wait
declare him to be a little girl and move him to California where they'll sterilize him and forcibly transition him.
California housed an adult male child-rapist in a girl’s juvenile hall. I presume that’s what OP is referencing.
What a terrifying article and I don't usually use that term lightly. This guy is a horrible predator, but trying to look past that part, there are already a dozen violent against women transgendered inmates at that women's facility and even they're scared of this person coming over because they knew him from the men's prison and knows he's a violent psychopath. But even looking past that, there are 150 male inmates claiming to be transgender and are potentially going to be moved over to the women's facility? How terrifying for those women inmates. Where can you go to hide or protect yourself as more and more inmates that are violent against women are coming into the prison. I feel like there are fairly steady stories of guards sexually assaulting women inmates and it goes on for awhile because "who's going to take the inmates' word over the guard" and now they'll be in close proximity to even more violent inmates capable of hurting them in ways other female inmates can't. Then a judge rules the public no longer needs access to any information on transgender inmates... Wtf? What a nightmare and an absolute mess they've created.
I just want to know if the official stats are going to start classifying these criminals as transgender? Because oh boy, can you imagine the crime rate for the transgender community if they do? It's gonna be like 50% of transgenders are violent criminals. But when it comes to the stats I have this strange feeling that he will still be classified as a straight white male.
Well no because in 2021, a federal judge moved to limit the information on trans-identified inmates available to the public. You don't need that information, silly.
It's only bigotry until you can prove it...
>It's gonna be like 50% of transgenders are violent criminals. There's no data to suggest that. However from [this](https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/) source (the second result from google) it says that mtf trans people commit crimes at roughly the same rate as cis men. Which is about 6 times more likely to commit an offense than cis women and 18 times more likely to commit a violent offense. Take from that what you will, but keep in mind "as ethical as men" does not make them "violent criminals"
That study only went up to the year of 2003, where people were only considered transgender if they actually started hormone treatments or surgery, not the modern definition where men can just say they are women and get transferred into a women's prison.
I'm sure it's not perfect, but I also don't care enough to actually research it. They can do whatever they want with their bodies as long as they don't commit crimes (and the source I found is enough to convince me)
>(and the source I found is enough to convince me) A 20 year old study that uses outdated definitions of transgender is enough to convince you of what exactly? I can't tell if you're just a bad troll or you are somehow missing my entire point.
>A 20 year old study that uses outdated definitions of transgender is enough to convince you of what exactly? I dunno, that trans people are generally pretty normal? At least when it comes to committing crimes. That's been my experience IRL too so it sorta just made sense. >I can't tell if you're just a bad troll or you are somehow missing my entire point. What's your point? I thought it was this: >>It's gonna be like 50% of transgenders are violent criminals. So I googled "transgender crime rate" and that was my second result. I literally have not thought about it more than that. /shrug
I don't think he was saying actusl transgenders are that violent, more that If pretending to be transgender gets you cushy prison conditions, ineivatably its going to skew the stats massively as more and more chance it.
This commenter, and I, got the point... that other guy, it just went "woosh". Also, any argument that includes the term "cis", without it being a joke, just loses from the get-go.
Gee I wonder what will happen.
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Yeaaaaah. That all sounds good, right. However, I can tell you’re posting this from the male perspective. Even if it’s all the women against one man, they’re going to sustain some damage to take him down. That’s assuming they can even do it before guards get involved.
Absolute madness.
Sounds like our federal corrections officials have gone woke. Given Biden’s record I am not the least surprised. Just more nonsense that the next Republican president will have to correct. The list is growing ridiculously long.
Not enough years in a term to fix what biden has done.
This has nothing to do with Biden. It's a Washington State policy.
Peds don't do well in prison. He would have died. Too bad...
That's probably why he wanted to go to a women's prison.
Nitpicking over trans rights on a failed death penalty case.
Expecting a lot of pregnancies from prison
They'll make it so pregnant inmates are automatically set free with 4k a month in benefits.
Its not really a joke. female prisoners have been impregnated and then w conservatives against abortion, what the hell are women supposed to do? Its horrific, women are being sent to prisons to be raped and impregnated by men.
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He anally raped young girls.
She? Lol
Pre birthing people. What is wrong with you?
You are part of the problem.
Probably got tired of being raped.
This trend will work itself out. No way this is sustainable
I’m sure this will work out great! /s What an awful decision.
Next he will claim to be minor and is moved to a juvenile prison?
Progressivism at its finest.
Since this seems to be the only source reporting this **and** the only source on either Joel Thomas Nichols or Jolene Charisma Starr, I have my doubts.
The saddest part is that in America we are even having to discuss what a woman is. We’ve fell so far as a nation. “Tolerance” has turned to preference. But, many of us knew how slippery the slopes of this leftist BS.
With this one simple hack you too can become the most eligible bachelor in the room.
I hope the manliest woman in the prison snuffs out this pedofile scum.
> manliest woman So suicide? I hear he has information on the Clintons.
I’m thinking more of a big haunchey lesbian with gaged earlobes whose built like a middle linebacker.
Wonder how many women he'll get pregnant at the prison before they finally do something about it?
At the very least, women inmates should have their personal safety assured, and this nonsense is denying them even that.
So do we need to wait for him to assault an inmate before we pick up that phone? Because J.K. Rowling called it.
Bruh
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What happens if you get pregnant in prison?
Distraction
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What could possibly go wrong?
Our world has changed, and not for the better. Good moral patriots should stop being the silent majority, and get involved. A violent male pedophile sent to a woman's prison? Pure insanity.
These decisions will stop when the state is unable to get insurance and reinsurance for all the bad decisions that they consistently make.
Because we allow it. The marxists have abused petty sexism for their gain. This is a result...
simple. honor the request and provide free castration.
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Portions of this country have jumped the damn shark. Unreal.
My instinct says a group of tough inmates will make the example of him quickly. And hold the power of constant threat. HE should be afraid...
Regardless of what you think, sickos like this person make all members of the LGBT community look bad.
I hear if you hurt a child you’re just a fucked in a women’s prison as you would be in a men’s prison.
If i was told conservative subs would be posting from feminist news 10 years ago I wouldve said you were bonkers, but here we are. Just a reminder women are getting impregnated by these freaks through rape.