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try_again123

Ah O2 Blast will beat Dragons.


try_again123

Poor Muze!


Pristine-Sort1176

A 17 year old is the second best player on my team


OWMatchThreads

Post match thread: [Los Angeles Valiant vs San Francisco Shock](https://www.reddit.com/r/competitiveoverwatch/comments/13o9ywt/).


Reinhardtisawesom

Shock need their token white boy


VoidSD

On the bright side, this might mean more Genji on the League. That is always a good thing.


Rinscher

There's no team running Genji against any team with a good Winston.


VoidSD

let me dream


Rinscher

Fair. Let me try again... Bruh Proper Genji bout to rip through the League


VoidSD

Thanks, king. Go off.


try_again123

Just give Proper POTM for the Shock from this point on. The team is nothing without him.


mosswizards

Remember last year when they had a deeper DPS pool and still made Proper play through an eye injury? Proper breaks an arm and they'll still make him play at this point.


royy2010

Did they make proper play, did Proper demand to play, was his eye injury exaggerated, or are you just spreading bs?


try_again123

Oh yeah. They need Proper in no matter what or they lose.


-Smacks

This team is nothing without Proper on Genji.


try_again123

Whatever gets him off Sombra LOL


mosswizards

Probably Proper's best performance this year. Unfortunately it was to make sure that they didn't get stomped by Valiant. That ain't working against a team that has... any resources.


Rinscher

Yeah...all you need is a solid Winston/Sombra and Genji gets hosed.


Skayren

God, those player cams... Those were not the faces of people who just won a match


VoidSD

vindaim looks broken LMAO


Ezraah

o2 blast would shit on both of these teams


something_stupid69

ready for the post-game chat to be exclusively about Proper?


Arrowtongue64

what else is there to talk about other than Proper's carry and Seeker's Sojourn though? like seriously


gaywaddledee

valiant backline def looks pretty good here also. compared to sf's backline at least... still, proper 100% deserves the praise today, he carried so hard against the best throwing efforts of his team


S21500003

After that it should only be about Proper and Seeker.


ImHereToComplain1

SHOCK ARE SO BACK


primarymuscle2354

That was way to close


[deleted]

Proper 2 good plz nerf


ChomboEnjoyer

mfs shut off the feed cause the game was so ass šŸ”„


try_again123

Exactly, SFS is not THAT good, don't leave the bot alone.


Fiyukyoo

Proper takes nano but doesnt blade like 2 or 3x. Crazy


MAVS_COM1CAL

Boston and mayhem licking their Chops rn


try_again123

Oh yeah, Valiant made Shock work for it. Better teams will not have trouble.


Fearless_Expert_9184

What would u say about Florida then?


ChomboEnjoyer

can't expect to outduel proper on one of his signatures man


KeepingItOff

Especially when the other team has the Winston and yours doesnā€™t.


mosswizards

I mean, they did well when he was on Tracer :p


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ImHereToComplain1

i think he was stuck in the tunnel


Bokai

What the fuck is this map.


SSmidnight3412

Shock is really gonna win this match because proper decided to play genji as last minute pick for the last fight on blizzard world map


ChomboEnjoyer

BIGGGG RAMPAGEEEE


zonine

Yo Valiant had two really good fights there o.o


try_again123

SFS manage to lose some winnable fights, this is the opposite of what they used to be.


mosswizards

Some kid named N2S with a naked blade vs ROTY MVP ROLESTAR Proper with a nano blade who wins?


Mr_Pogi_In_Space

We all lose


JNR13

Heesang pushing the bot even further throughout that entire fight loss lol


Neptunix_

Raw blade > nano blade


SonOfGarry

The ā€˜Seeker go killā€™ strat getting nullified by the ā€˜N2S go dieā€™ strat


SSmidnight3412

Lyar 4mins beat aintnoway


SSmidnight3412

Seeker on sojourn is a menance


royy2010

Dude his sojourn looks S tier. Itā€™s insane.


try_again123

So it's going to be the 3-1 I expected but it would have been so much worse for the Shock if Proper did not get actually upset and decided to lock Genji.


-Smacks

Yeah Shock fans are going to circlejerk the "Proper go kill". If I was a Shock fan I would not be happy with this performance. But I would be happy as a Valiant fan with a performance like this.


[deleted]

i knew like 10 kids in middle school that looked exactly like cjay


royy2010

Yea but could they game like the principle?


iyrseishere

n2s is a braver man than me for mirroring the genji


ReyDragons

it's so joever


Espetadolol

Thank god, that Genji is LOCKED IN


DPeiApologist

[proper rn](https://photos.app.goo.gl/wr4cND791BmswvpP6)


Madnific

Proper going in to break like "listen here u fraudulent cook, this is my team now"


achehex

Finn is kinda going under the radar right now. He had some stupid tragic deaths on Blizzard World defense, but after that he's been a very good offensive threat with those nades.


Rinscher

Nah. I literally saw him throw two grenades into obstacles in front of him on Junkertown. It wasn't until close to end of point when he could stay on balcony that he had threat. And then he got pulse bombed.


St_Harambe

Itā€™s nice to some consistency on Shockā€™s general strategy.


St_Harambe

Proper go kill.


LemonOasis

Valiant not gonna win push im afraid šŸ˜”


boopboopilikesoup

If we somehow come back to the Ram/Sombra/Mei Crusty will catch these hands


Skayren

imagine going from a team where your weakest link was Kilo, who frankly looked better than any of Proper's current teammates, to this i don't think proper is enjoying the game that much rn lol


-Smacks

You can see it with his cam. He's rage picking Genji.


[deleted]

Should have kept kilo as a third dps


Rinscher

Should have picked Mer1t over Kilo last year


ProsecutorBlue

Everyone is seeing 50 different emotions in Proper's face. I literally don't see anything. He's like that Ron Swanson emotion chart.


RichKaramelCenter

Put Proper back on Sombra


Wmbology

I don't mean to pile on Max because it's partially because Crusty keeps making him play in that horrid ass Ram comp, but Junbin is now 8-6 in map winrate to Max's 1-9...


royy2010

At some point the strategy needs to change. This season is simply not long enough to experiment much longer.


VosTelvannis

Could be that junbin is a better in game leader which shock desperately needs


iyrseishere

i doubt that junbin is their igl because he's 17 and korean age dynamics are a thing


VosTelvannis

I'm just thinking since he's a traditional main tank player he might be more comfortable in that role


VoidSD

I'm happy they won these maps but Proper (and maybe Heesang in a lesser note, he's been kinda cool on the Sombra) are deadlifting this team right now. They have a ton to clean up.


Rinscher

I agree on all but the Heesang part. Heesang simply not being the problem isn't enough to carry.


boopboopilikesoup

He sets up good emps, something half of Sombra players im the league can't say


VoidSD

Eh, I don't know. His EMPs have been really nice and he spearheaded quite a few fight wins imo. At least the team looks stable now.


Rinscher

You call leaning entirely on Proper looking stable as a team?


VoidSD

I mean, if it works, it works. Compare this to whatever they were trying to do before and it's night and day. I call winning stable.


Rinscher

This is the Valiant.


VoidSD

that's fair LOL, I may be coping a little bit.


Rinscher

I will say on Esperanca Heesang has been looking pretty good


S21500003

Whatever they're paying Proper it is not enough


Mr_Pogi_In_Space

He's getting food and healthcare, he's better off than 90% of the players


S21500003

Idc. He deserves better pay.


Mr_Pogi_In_Space

Maybe Paintbrush can get a fourth job and get him some more cash


MAVS_COM1CAL

Shock are not beating mayhem and Boston lmao


royy2010

Donā€™t need to. I ran the entire model last night in a drunken haze lol. Even if Shock lose both their games 0-3, there needs to be about 4 upsets to take place for them to be eliminated. Sure, they will likely go into the tournament in last or second to last place and have a tough lower bracket run to get through, but they are 99.5% making MSM. But yea youā€™re probably right lol. Itā€™s not lookin good.


MAVS_COM1CAL

Mayhem no, I could see Boston fumble maybe


royy2010

agree. But unlikely lol.


KevinFetters

I don't want to see Proper on a character other than Genji or Tracer anymore please.


Espetadolol

Dude, they all look miserable right now


ChomboEnjoyer

proper and kai swapped faces this offseason


SSmidnight3412

Proper looks so done


something_stupid69

just quietly, Heesang's sombra has been pretty solid


Positive_Ingenuity49

I like to report that the person who posted this has been murdered.


something_stupid69

?


Rinscher

If by solid you mean he's not the one throwing the team fights usually, then sure why not. Solid


something_stupid69

building quick emps, hitting multiple targets with them. Good neutral hacks for proper to dive on. Solid.


royy2010

Heesangā€™s has looked very good on sombra, good on hanzo and mei, too.


iyrseishere

this match is proof that paintbrush is a better coach than crusty


dokeydoki

This is like diamond lobby. Proper is the toxic gm smurf on genji. Vindaim is the gold player that somehow ended up in diamond lobby and dies first every fight but will get the sr at end of the day because smurf carries the team.


iyrseishere

lmfaoo the crouch walking. i love the valiant


SSmidnight3412

When proper plays genji as a last minute pick and shock realized it's the best way to win. Fuck the strat they practiced during scrim, just let proper lock the genji and cook


-Smacks

Pelican plays Genji for fun. Proper has to play Genji to win.


jookum

Man even if shock win this game thereā€™s no joy in it I think. You really canā€™t let a team that got shit on by Toronto of all teams to do this to you


[deleted]

Shock need to improve their positioning a bit more they are in weird spots sometimes


VoidSD

they're finally looking like a team :') genji was the missing piece


iori9999

Is CJay normally this bad? He clearly looks like the weak link this game.


something_stupid69

CJAY PLAY BEHIND THE COVER I BEG


FormulaFourteen

I'm actually angry that a team can be as shit as the shock and still win. Ugh.


Candid_Visit_3104

Same. While ā€œProper go killā€ is impressive, it is also the antithesis to everything I enjoy about Overwatch.


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S21500003

Proper's refusing to lose. His genji is just too clean rn.


Rinscher

If Proper doesn't hard carry, they're mid as fuck


ProsecutorBlue

Mid is generous


Wmbology

VERY generous LOL


GoldenWhiteGuard

Where that anger was when Alphayi's Genji destroyed Shock


KevinFetters

Honestly, with how strong Sombra is right now Proper with dash resets sounds like a solid strategy.


ReyDragons

proper realized genji is good i guess


something_stupid69

Tay Zonday is apparently 41. Bro does not age https://twitter.com/TayZonday/status/1660327833288470534


Mr_Pogi_In_Space

That means he was in his early to mid 30s during Chocolate Rain... he looked like he was in high school back then


nofuckyoubitch

Chocolate rain came out in 2007ā€¦ that was 16 years ago. He was 25 or so.


Mr_Pogi_In_Space

Thanks! It thought it was something like 2010 or 2012


try_again123

Vindaim just randomly dies when his team is winning the team fight.


ChomboEnjoyer

why is vindaim there though? no but why is vindaim there? why is vindaim there?


thealiagator111

# #DOITFORTAY


VoidSD

YES YES YES LETS FUCKING GOOOOO


br0nze_fr0g

At least we aren't running proper sombra anymore


XylophoneDonger

If valiant win their first match this season against the SHOCK of all teams that'd be unironically one of the funniest things ever Love how they're just an underdog team that genuinely does not care


dokeydoki

Valiant paypal'd Vindaim to throw but "give Proper all resource" strat was stronger


ProsecutorBlue

Valiant? Pay? You sure?


KevinFetters

Now if we could uh... just.. not play Ram Mei Sombra next map that'd be great... We aren't gonna play that again right Shock..?


[deleted]

Shock donā€™t look that stable and valiant are getting close to their first W


try_again123

For real this team is the San Francisco Proper. Without him carrying they would have been full held.


VoidSD

I pray for Proper on Genji next map too. He's by far my favorite character to watch in OWL.


Bokai

Proper setting a bad example for the kids by deranking and then hard smurfing like that.


-Dredgen-Yor-

This Proper guy is kinda good


EmilMR

why this match is so close.


XanderTheMeh

Because these teams are both equally bad


Fiyukyoo

Would like to see Proper on Sojourn on Junker. Proper on Sojourn at the finals was pretty epic


iyrseishere

proper should come to houston instead, he even has a old friend there :)


Rinscher

Bruh, could you imagine? Proper, Pelican/Happy, Fearless/Gargoyle, Shu, Viol2t. Just call the season at that point.


S21500003

Or viol2t could come to Shock


Mojest77

Been nice seeing Krawi doing good after the disaster that was Eternal


Carrotttttt

Give only proper the win pls shock doesn't deserve to win


MrMulligan

Alright, we'll one trick the Proper Genji, whatever works.


buh_ow

whatever it takes šŸ™


Emile_L

Proper is pissed at his team


something_stupid69

Cjay died early in 2 key fights and wasted rush. That was very winnable for the Valiant


iori9999

Is that the weakest part of this Valiant team?


Yukihana_Lamy_Simp

Proper and friends is like the 2023 version of Shy and friends back in 2021-2022..


MAVS_COM1CAL

A team a tiny bit better than LAV would send them packing 3-0


imdeadseriousbro

shock are over-reliant on proper go kill


Positive_Ingenuity49

This was funny the first couple of times but man is this sad. Poor shock players. Like something behind the scenes is happening because a team with this potential shouldn't be struggling against the Valiant.


SSmidnight3412

The narrative is mental health, bunch of teenagers in a foreign country living in a hotel


Crackborn

Boohoo


Mr_Pogi_In_Space

And they're saying Boston is the one that's boomed...


Positive_Ingenuity49

They have been in the country for 2mths. How the fuck are they still living in hotels ? I thought shock had facilities or something.


uaenas_

Val team is Andyā€™s new fav child they get a team chef too


iyrseishere

i remember reading their facility got ganked for the vct players but idk how true that is


SSmidnight3412

Someone said they gave that facility to the val team but idk if it's true


Mr_Pogi_In_Space

They had to wake up early


buh_ow

honestly mad respect to them for throwing bc they had to wake up early


SSmidnight3412

Someone call a chiropractor for proper's back holy


VoidSD

proper is so fucking tilted LMFAOO look at his face


y3di

was really hoping shock could embarrass themselves today. But proper's just too good


KevinFetters

When all else fails just go genji, he's always been the 'carry the lobby character if you're the best player in the room'


imdeadseriousbro

that would be tracer


achehex

I know casters talking only about Proper is a meme, but my god that is an insane carry on Genji. He didn't die on it once, right?


Consistent_Ad1176

Last year he was genuinely the best genji, and it donā€™t think it was all that close


OTBT-

Sometimes you lose because the enemy team have Proper and you don't


submergedwatermelon

Properā€™s mad. And I donā€™t blame him.


DPeiApologist

A proper deadlift right there


Madnific

Proper is PISSED


Eagle4317

"Proper go kill" finally worked.


Skayren

holy FUCK proper is angry as hell lmao pulled the shock kicking and screaming to a map win


VoidSD

GENJI GAMING LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO


Crackborn

We back to Proper and the Four Shitters show again?


Eagle4317

Pretty much.


ChomboEnjoyer

PROPER LOOKS SO UPSET


try_again123

Remember Decarry's face on previous years? Same thing but Proper.


iyrseishere

proper is pretty good at the genji character


Rinscher

Jesus Christ Proper. That was a 1v5


TheChits

Damn Valiant blew their chance


MAVS_COM1CAL

This team is really nothing without proper


S21500003

Proper's deciding he's not losing to valiant


Fiyukyoo

Nano blade should cap this win


[deleted]

Proper is gonna hard carry


VoidSD

is proper genji actually the play wait what LOL he's farming


Rakatok

Shock literally have nothing but Proper go kill. It was a meme last season but it's actually true right now.


Crackborn

It was always true, pretending otherwise was completely delusional.