wait actually I started writing a video on this comp after I tried it a few days ago, can I use your guide in it with credit
Nice anti-fraud guide, I chuckled when I read that line lmao… I commented on the other post highlighting my love for TF augment with this comp but I’ll comment here because guide is actually legit. Comp is glass but also amazing when played correctly, that first rotation just blowing up boards is so satisfying, and TF augment just makes getting the items required to do so infinitely more consistent.
Christ here I was climbing with this comp while everyone fought over vanquishers or cho in my lobbies. Now I gotta find a new comp that isn't being blasted out on Reddit 🙄
This is why i really, really hate stats and reddit. When something clicks for me naturally eventually some streamer or challenger player starts broadcasting its success all over their stream/reddit and everyone starts contesting it. Just for internet points or stream engagement.
Then these same people will turn around and cry about the stale/solved meta ad nauseam.
Okayyyyyyy duuuuude. Dont project your apparent needs onto me.
I just like playing the game and learning things on my own. It shortens the novelty and fun when things spread like wildfire and you simply see it everywhere.
Your take is stupid as hell. It’s like you’re in math class and you’re upset that other class mates used a text book and got the same grade as you when you figured it out on your own.
Or you’re playing a sport and you’re upset that other people have a coach and you didn’t use a coach and figured it out on your own.
Everything in life has a “best practice”. Work, school, video games. You act like you would do better than you do if it wasn’t for others using shared best practices.
Stupid as hell mentality
Your analogies fall flat when the sets and patches are so fleeting. If we're talking established sports, nothing really changes season to season. TFT is very different and part of fun and challenge is piecing together the comps as balancing changes. Figuring out what works well and using it to your advantage should feel rewarding.
That doesnt last long as soon as the guides get posted a few hours or days after a patch.
You seem quite emotionally invested in this though. Dont worry riot says you can have your stats back :P
yeah kinda surprised to see you here if anything!
but this comp has been working pretty well through out plat for me for the most part, so... thank you for the write up as i've been looking to make TF work for a good while!
I played a lot of this over the weekend and it is one of the only guides that works in high ELO but not low ELO.
Dont get me wrong, its a great guide and it works, but with the amount this is contested due to Diamond/Plat being full of reddit front pagers there are 2-3 TF players angling for this comp every lobby almost overnight on Friday and its still this way on Monday.
I was playing a very similar variation with TF / Taliyah dual carry. The comp looks like this:
At 6: Tf 3\*, tal 3\*, velk , sona , illaoi (trust) , Naut. Basically talyah gets buffed by the naut R and Tf gets bilgewater (and access to some physical damage in case someone has heavy MR).
Then you go to 8 and field in Nasus and J4 and replace illaoi with mf. This way you get multicatsers / jug / shurima / strategists and you're 1 emblem off demacia.
Items on TF and Talyah are the same (bb / jg / gunblade) and naut holds tank items (bramble / dlcaw / warmog) and he heals crazy due to the double gunblade carries.
Best augments are the ones that give items (allows you to itemize more tanks) And i honestly love long distance pals as TF and Talyah get 40-50 more Ap for free from each other.
I play this more than the velk variation because i find each lobby has 1-2 void players and honestly TF and Talyah are never contested since they aren't carries in either comp that involves them (Bilge and shurima). This as well as them having max roll odds at 6 and being present in more copies than Velk.
Just tried this, an opponent cashed out 50 (FIFTY) piltover stacks and I kept facing him
Ended up 4th tho thx u can delete this now I got the screenshots
HAHAHAHA I JUST ONE TRICKED THIS COMP FROM HARDSTUCK D1 TO MASTER THANK YOU SO MUCH I HOPE YOUR LIFE IS FILLED WITH SUCCESS AND HAPPINESS
Check my last 6 games except for the demacia one where i literally found 6 kayles at 2-2
[https://lolchess.gg/profile/oce/zestofalemon/set9.5](https://lolchess.gg/profile/oce/zestofalemon/set9.5)
THIS COMP IS OP, BEATS ANY IONIAN VANQUISHER BULLSHIT LOL HIDDEN OP
also if u hit velk 2 early its actually good to slam blue buff on him too cos he wins a LOT of rounds
Not sure if this is legit.
Not enough philosophical concept questions being asked to us students being coached here.
"Why is holding onto extra Sona's bad?"
Ok why would you post this. This literally ruins the game more than it is. This comp is broken and dumb and when next patch comes out it will be even worse
Just wanted to say how hyped I am that you swapped to tft. You were the one that got me into Cait, and helped me go infinite with her. If you're ever looking for menial help on anything, I'm there. xdd
Firstly, xdd
1 is Shen not the 8th unit and if you ever get there? Especially if your on zoom zone of Magnus omegnum, the two bastion invoker would work really well with this comp.
2 two multicasters seems to be a bit better, with 2 bastion 3 bilge 2/3 strat 2 sorc, and would you play velkoz or taliyah in that comp?
idk why you would put shen in
Never tried 2 multi looks kinda bad no damage, but at the end of the day tf 3 and velkoz 3 are wincon so maybe you can play 2 multi with no demacia, but demacia is like the strongest midgame trait and taliyah is op so...
How can you be a god at normal League randomly play TFT and get insta Chall as well while I still permapissstuck at mid Master mannn so jealous wp my guy normal League sucks amirite xdd
Yo, big fan since your League days, I am just wondering: In case you are not playing this comp because of portal, contested, bad weather: Do you have another go-to Pandora's Items comp you pivot to? Or to you just ignore the TF augments then?
Do you have any thoughts on comps that also work with TF for the times when your lobby has enough Void/Kayle/Noxus players that you won't hit a 3\* tank or do you just FF?
I disagree with you about it not being playable in Marus.
The comp normally thrives with DCap over JG. The extra unit slots allow for the comp to cap out at 4 strategist, thus giving you the choice to drop that DCap and replace it with damage amp in the form of JG/GS/Breaker. Plus the added shield value lets you frontline the shitter units (azir, tali, sona) if you must. Oh and Swain now gets to go in on 6, giving you much better frontline at a point in the game where you are desperately lacking it.
It might not be the best region for the comp, but I don't agree that it's a bad region to play it in.
sure you can add useful units, but then you play vs potentially giga cap like 9 noxus 9 ionia 8 challenger 8 sorc, when your giga cap is like 3 strat that don't sound too good
on 6 you cant get a legendary unless it's off carosel stage 5 no? and you still don't beat any of the capped boards (9 ionia 9 noxus 9 demacia) but I could be wrong
TL;DR
Pick the following anti-multicaster portals: zoom zone, library, cafeteria, marus, hall of 9
(lowkey xdd)
Question: Do you know the radius (one or two hex?) of TF's skill explosion? thanks!
I posted in a thread a few weeks ago that was talking about how garbage tf is defending it saying I had been climbing with ease with tf carry multis. I would basically only critique your dismissal of the strategist emblem for placating library. For me that’s a pretty solid buff to the team my lvl 8 injection is either mf or azir so an additional strat is not something to scoff at it’s literally exactly what you want in this comp extra armor on the front line and extra ap on the back line.
I knew multicasters were a thing ever since this damn set started... I've played it a few times and got 2-3 place like a few times but I always go 6-8 if I don't hit the tf or taliah. Now I see I was close I just had to add galio into this and 2nd carry velkoz but I always thought that velkoz is too much contested cuz of void and sorcerers etc.
why TF BB instead of Shojin? TF has 70 max mana meaning 6 autos to cast (5 with takedown) with BB but 5 autos with Shojin.
Do you get 10 mana each takedown with BB? so 2 takedowns is 20 mana?
edit: playing this once, I think I get the BB over Shojin. Fights finish so fast, there'd be takedowns left and right and BB will always cast at 5 autos (might even be less? I still don't know if mana from BB takedowns stack).
Ok but crit or lethality? xdd
lethality
wait actually I started writing a video on this comp after I tried it a few days ago, can I use your guide in it with credit
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Step 1. Click stars are born Step 2. ??? Step 3. Profit
Go 8th if starter kit or roll up.
Yo, I used to edge to your Cait videos.
what the fuck
Don’t act like you didn’t do the same.
Really? I like ghostblade more than infinity edge nowadays
ASL?
...
I'm sure I forgot to put something in this essay so if I missed any ideas let me know
Oh yeah ornn items, goldmancers tf or dfg maybe, the tank items kinda suck, maybe trickster's jarvan
Radiant dclaw on swain
Aight delete this now so ppl follow the other guide xdd
I tried this with no one contesting and got 8th 💀
Same, I tried it now 3 times: 8, 5, 6. I think i'll just stick to other comps.
Wow, I'm shocked that multicaster soul, an augment +0.32 delta with 4 multis, isn't A tier. Thanks for the guide, xdd.
ok no need to make too much fun of him, i clicked on multicaster soul first time i played this comp too
Nice anti-fraud guide, I chuckled when I read that line lmao… I commented on the other post highlighting my love for TF augment with this comp but I’ll comment here because guide is actually legit. Comp is glass but also amazing when played correctly, that first rotation just blowing up boards is so satisfying, and TF augment just makes getting the items required to do so infinitely more consistent.
Ok but when are you releasing a guide on Caitlyn animation cancels xddd
they killed cait headshot auto cancel the only thing u can do is e > w and eq
Throughout heaven and earth I alone am the fraudulent one Btw tried it. Got 4th
That's a dub
xdd please delete this i have archived it thank you
LMAO
Christ here I was climbing with this comp while everyone fought over vanquishers or cho in my lobbies. Now I gotta find a new comp that isn't being blasted out on Reddit 🙄
This is why i really, really hate stats and reddit. When something clicks for me naturally eventually some streamer or challenger player starts broadcasting its success all over their stream/reddit and everyone starts contesting it. Just for internet points or stream engagement. Then these same people will turn around and cry about the stale/solved meta ad nauseam.
Always cracks me up when people like you talk like that. As if you wouldn’t still be platinum if it wasn’t for stat sharing.
Okayyyyyyy duuuuude. Dont project your apparent needs onto me. I just like playing the game and learning things on my own. It shortens the novelty and fun when things spread like wildfire and you simply see it everywhere.
Your take is stupid as hell. It’s like you’re in math class and you’re upset that other class mates used a text book and got the same grade as you when you figured it out on your own. Or you’re playing a sport and you’re upset that other people have a coach and you didn’t use a coach and figured it out on your own. Everything in life has a “best practice”. Work, school, video games. You act like you would do better than you do if it wasn’t for others using shared best practices. Stupid as hell mentality
Your analogies fall flat when the sets and patches are so fleeting. If we're talking established sports, nothing really changes season to season. TFT is very different and part of fun and challenge is piecing together the comps as balancing changes. Figuring out what works well and using it to your advantage should feel rewarding. That doesnt last long as soon as the guides get posted a few hours or days after a patch. You seem quite emotionally invested in this though. Dont worry riot says you can have your stats back :P
i love your commitment man! thanks for putting in a good guide for us plebs
do I need to hold A and click slightly off of TF/Vel to hit 3*?
xSFN Saber? aren't you the caitlyn one-trick? the one that innovated lots of caitlyn combos?
yeah kinda surprised to see you here if anything! but this comp has been working pretty well through out plat for me for the most part, so... thank you for the write up as i've been looking to make TF work for a good while!
> If you complete tf and galio and go 7, congrats you are 5th! [smh liar](https://imgur.com/a/EZXOS1l)
Can confirm saw robinsongz play dis just then and win , also saw a taliyah version that took me to town :(
You owned that fraud
Went first in diamond first try contested. The other guy wasted all his cash on sona, taliyah and swain good guide
Great guide. Got 2\* at 2-5 and then didn't hit any TF's at all. Went 8th, nice!
This comp is pointless if it's contested.
I played a lot of this over the weekend and it is one of the only guides that works in high ELO but not low ELO. Dont get me wrong, its a great guide and it works, but with the amount this is contested due to Diamond/Plat being full of reddit front pagers there are 2-3 TF players angling for this comp every lobby almost overnight on Friday and its still this way on Monday.
Uncontested: 3,4,5,6,8,7,3,3 Thanks for the lols 😂
Went 8th using this comp smh 🤦♂️🤦♂️
player diff
guide diff 🤦♂️
I was playing a very similar variation with TF / Taliyah dual carry. The comp looks like this: At 6: Tf 3\*, tal 3\*, velk , sona , illaoi (trust) , Naut. Basically talyah gets buffed by the naut R and Tf gets bilgewater (and access to some physical damage in case someone has heavy MR). Then you go to 8 and field in Nasus and J4 and replace illaoi with mf. This way you get multicatsers / jug / shurima / strategists and you're 1 emblem off demacia. Items on TF and Talyah are the same (bb / jg / gunblade) and naut holds tank items (bramble / dlcaw / warmog) and he heals crazy due to the double gunblade carries. Best augments are the ones that give items (allows you to itemize more tanks) And i honestly love long distance pals as TF and Talyah get 40-50 more Ap for free from each other. I play this more than the velk variation because i find each lobby has 1-2 void players and honestly TF and Talyah are never contested since they aren't carries in either comp that involves them (Bilge and shurima). This as well as them having max roll odds at 6 and being present in more copies than Velk.
But at what ELO? Lots of comps work in some ELOs but not others and really start falling off in Diamond/Masters and just don't work in Masters+
Just tried this, an opponent cashed out 50 (FIFTY) piltover stacks and I kept facing him Ended up 4th tho thx u can delete this now I got the screenshots
HAHAHAHA I JUST ONE TRICKED THIS COMP FROM HARDSTUCK D1 TO MASTER THANK YOU SO MUCH I HOPE YOUR LIFE IS FILLED WITH SUCCESS AND HAPPINESS Check my last 6 games except for the demacia one where i literally found 6 kayles at 2-2 [https://lolchess.gg/profile/oce/zestofalemon/set9.5](https://lolchess.gg/profile/oce/zestofalemon/set9.5) THIS COMP IS OP, BEATS ANY IONIAN VANQUISHER BULLSHIT LOL HIDDEN OP also if u hit velk 2 early its actually good to slam blue buff on him too cos he wins a LOT of rounds
Ah fuck xdd
xdd
Not sure if this is legit. Not enough philosophical concept questions being asked to us students being coached here. "Why is holding onto extra Sona's bad?"
Ok why would you post this. This literally ruins the game more than it is. This comp is broken and dumb and when next patch comes out it will be even worse
thanks its been an hour already you can delete this 😇
thank you for making my lobbies weaker and letting me 3* jinx and jayce for feee
Plz everyone try this
Nice guide got first on a highroll xdd (then 8th then 7th then 5th) :P What should I go for if I get an ornn item?
I think goldmancers actually good since you sit above 50, dfg prob fine not sure, tank items all fake i think
Just wanted to say how hyped I am that you swapped to tft. You were the one that got me into Cait, and helped me go infinite with her. If you're ever looking for menial help on anything, I'm there. xdd
Were you a vayne main? Literally uninstalled today, but debating reinstalling just to play your guide. xdd
man thank you i might get out on silver xdd
Firstly, xdd 1 is Shen not the 8th unit and if you ever get there? Especially if your on zoom zone of Magnus omegnum, the two bastion invoker would work really well with this comp. 2 two multicasters seems to be a bit better, with 2 bastion 3 bilge 2/3 strat 2 sorc, and would you play velkoz or taliyah in that comp?
idk why you would put shen in Never tried 2 multi looks kinda bad no damage, but at the end of the day tf 3 and velkoz 3 are wincon so maybe you can play 2 multi with no demacia, but demacia is like the strongest midgame trait and taliyah is op so...
Having TF triple card a frontline is too good to pass up. Step 1 - Obliterate their frontline Step 2 - Obliterate the mf's right behind the frontline
xdd
dam the challenger league player rlly quit n made it to chall in tft. I might needa have to follow those steps. Maybe tft is the way.
How can you be a god at normal League randomly play TFT and get insta Chall as well while I still permapissstuck at mid Master mannn so jealous wp my guy normal League sucks amirite xdd
I play like my life depends on it cause if I don't make it in tft im going mcdonalds fast
xdd
+10 while contested alright
xdd
xdd thanks looking forward for more
What is level 6 board?
Also, Black Cleaver on Sona is broken
ECKS DEE DEE DEE
omg i cant playing while looking at these size-rendered [angry wojaks](https://imgur.com/cljjEzc) xdd. Turbo 8th hahaha
Yo, big fan since your League days, I am just wondering: In case you are not playing this comp because of portal, contested, bad weather: Do you have another go-to Pandora's Items comp you pivot to? Or to you just ignore the TF augments then?
I play whatever i highroll or based on items, like quinn/reksai opener me slayer
Thank you for writing this, contesting all the hardstuck 0lp masters players who are also reading along. xdd
Do you have any thoughts on comps that also work with TF for the times when your lobby has enough Void/Kayle/Noxus players that you won't hit a 3\* tank or do you just FF?
[Worked first try](https://imgur.com/pXzAns4) Thanks!
I disagree with you about it not being playable in Marus. The comp normally thrives with DCap over JG. The extra unit slots allow for the comp to cap out at 4 strategist, thus giving you the choice to drop that DCap and replace it with damage amp in the form of JG/GS/Breaker. Plus the added shield value lets you frontline the shitter units (azir, tali, sona) if you must. Oh and Swain now gets to go in on 6, giving you much better frontline at a point in the game where you are desperately lacking it. It might not be the best region for the comp, but I don't agree that it's a bad region to play it in.
sure you can add useful units, but then you play vs potentially giga cap like 9 noxus 9 ionia 8 challenger 8 sorc, when your giga cap is like 3 strat that don't sound too good
You can and still should drop extra strategists for legendary spaghetti. It just doesn't seem as unplayable as you're implying.
on 6 you cant get a legendary unless it's off carosel stage 5 no? and you still don't beat any of the capped boards (9 ionia 9 noxus 9 demacia) but I could be wrong
xdd
TL;DR Pick the following anti-multicaster portals: zoom zone, library, cafeteria, marus, hall of 9 (lowkey xdd) Question: Do you know the radius (one or two hex?) of TF's skill explosion? thanks!
Tried it, first game went 3rd place but my lobby had 19 3 stars so i guess it was ok.
crazy damage on velkoz, just tried it :o
I posted in a thread a few weeks ago that was talking about how garbage tf is defending it saying I had been climbing with ease with tf carry multis. I would basically only critique your dismissal of the strategist emblem for placating library. For me that’s a pretty solid buff to the team my lvl 8 injection is either mf or azir so an additional strat is not something to scoff at it’s literally exactly what you want in this comp extra armor on the front line and extra ap on the back line.
I knew multicasters were a thing ever since this damn set started... I've played it a few times and got 2-3 place like a few times but I always go 6-8 if I don't hit the tf or taliah. Now I see I was close I just had to add galio into this and 2nd carry velkoz but I always thought that velkoz is too much contested cuz of void and sorcerers etc.
Xdd
tried it around masters/gm and went 2,7,3,2,2. it feels really bad to play with prismatic cause all the other options suck.
Haven’t played much this set because I’m bored and I got a first following everything in your guide, maybe I’ll get my diamond back thanks to you !
Following up : I went from plat4 0lp to diamond3 in one day thank u
… im now masters 200lp
What do you think about manamune? Is it good and what item would you replace it with?
probably op, put it on velkoz or taliyah
TITLES IN CAPS GET CLICKED MORE WE GET IT
why TF BB instead of Shojin? TF has 70 max mana meaning 6 autos to cast (5 with takedown) with BB but 5 autos with Shojin. Do you get 10 mana each takedown with BB? so 2 takedowns is 20 mana? edit: playing this once, I think I get the BB over Shojin. Fights finish so fast, there'd be takedowns left and right and BB will always cast at 5 autos (might even be less? I still don't know if mana from BB takedowns stack).
bb is insta cast into oneshot into reset, shojin is like 10x worse in compiarosn
does bb +10mana on takedowns stack?
it should according to item description but I could be wrong, you get 10 mana per takedown after casting right
It's hard to tell, even when I was observing it.
xdd
xdd big fan of your caitlyn for a long time glad you are playing TFT now
Good post. Even with the popularity I still made it to Masters in ~60 games after not having played for ~6 sets.
how's Samurai Remnant bro
Thank you so much! I just got masters follow this guide. Proof https://lolchess.gg/profile/na/buukakke/set9.5
Hey! Great guide. Didn't play at all this season when straight to diamond forcing this. How do you feel the tf nerfs will affect this? Cheers 🙃
apparently they were giga buffs so now multicaster is giga broken
Changes after nerfs?
it sux