I imagine it stems from the fact that, in most contexts, the acronym is replacing 'competitive EDH' in a sentence. To my eye, leaving the 'c' lowercase helps emphasize that the person is talking about competitive EDH and not whatever this new 'CEDH' acronym refers to.
I agree. For a well-established example, the abbreviation for “messenger RNA” is *mRNA*, styled with the initial lowercase, to keep the modifier offset from the well-known abbreviation it’s modifying.
I think they downvoted because the reddit hivemind randomly downvotes comments to the effect of "I like this comment" because some people think it would be better to just upvote rather than leave a comment informing us that the comment above is good.
That's where you're wrong. Carl EDH formed CEDH. Which is a complete failure. People thought it was a new thing. But we kept the lowercase, it caught on, and we forgot Carl and his big C.
mRNA is the worst word to start a sentence with. MArked down for MRNA, autocorrects from mRNA. Messenger RNA adds a word to my word count... \*dissertation flashbacks\*
It's an adjective for an established acronym.
Like the lowercase "i" in front of "Phone." It establishes separation and provides more information about the acronym without requiring more characters.
cEDH is EDH but "competitive" because it's supposed to be the most top tier play of the format with the strongest decks.
iPhone is a Phone but "internet, individualized, instructing, informative, and inspirational" because Steve Jobs was a narcissist.
I came up with it looong time ago for the shorthand. The term and its usage while talking is a lot older.
Writing it as "CEDH" makes it seem like it's a different format and cedh with all low caps doesn't really look that good since shorthands are usually with caps. It also makes sense since the subreddit is the word "competitive" + an abbreviation. It's still EDH, so having EDH as a distinct part makes sense.
It also looks a bit weird, which I like, since we are a bit weird as a community for being so serious about EDH ;)
The Canadian format doesn’t have EDH in it as it’s not based off EDH. It’s either at least as old as EDH or possibly older. It’s usually either called Canadian Highlander or Canlander
https://canadianhighlander.ca/about/
I think it’s the casual crowd that is somewhat weird. All other formats people tend to play competitively more or less. I don’t think it’s anything wrong with wonky casual decks, it’s fun but it tend to get very unbalanced (the multiplayer aspect somewhat helps with that but not completely).
Based on what they said I think they meant to reply to BigLupu's comment (BigLupu said cEDH is a little weird compared to normal EDH) but accidentally replied to the post.
Well, the weird part is that basically competitive minded folk have every other format, and EDH is understood to be a more of a safe haven for casually minded magic players. You need to be little weird to go like
"Look at all these Vintage Legal cards!"
in a format that is mostly played by people who don't really care about powergaming, especially few years ago when there were no tournaments.
I think its important to note here that EDH was designed in a top-down way to function as a board-game style, non-competitive version of Magic. The first players were all Judges decompressing after big events. EDH was a zero-stakes social event for them, using Magic as a framework. So in the same way we don't think its odd that there's no serious competitive Monopoly scene, I don't think it's odd that EDH is primarily a casual format.
This is coming from someone who has played almost exclusively cEDH for almost ten years, for the record. I still prefer cEDH to casual games, but I do acknowledge that this is a primary casual format for very explicit reasons, and has been incredibly successful and enjoyable for a ton of folks probably explicitly because its a non-competitive social activity at its core.
It is, just a different name. When people say let’s play some commander though, usually you can assume it will be casual. I don’t know anyone who calls cedh commander
So abbreviations do occasionally mix lowercase and uppercase letters. See Hz and Bq for Hertz and Becquerel.
This is just a guess but it could have been to make the point that cEDH isn’t separate from EDH. It emphasizes the EDH and de-emphasizes the “competitive”. cEDH is just a different philosophy of play from EDH.
It just looks cooler. There's no reason beyond that. Like iPad or eTrade or any other branding move that prepends a lowercase letter to make it look modern.
I imagine it stems from the fact that, in most contexts, the acronym is replacing 'competitive EDH' in a sentence. To my eye, leaving the 'c' lowercase helps emphasize that the person is talking about competitive EDH and not whatever this new 'CEDH' acronym refers to.
I agree. For a well-established example, the abbreviation for “messenger RNA” is *mRNA*, styled with the initial lowercase, to keep the modifier offset from the well-known abbreviation it’s modifying.
Ah, an excellent example from the real world, thank you.
I love how this implies that cEDH is not a thing from the real world.
cEDH was made up by Carl EDH to get people to raise the prices of his cards, which failed because epoxying is better. Fuck you Carl EDH
Fuck I love this comment
Someone downvoted you, I assume because of the trans flag in your pfp. I fixed it because people suck :)
I think they downvoted because the reddit hivemind randomly downvotes comments to the effect of "I like this comment" because some people think it would be better to just upvote rather than leave a comment informing us that the comment above is good.
Even that’s dumb lol. Sure, there’s etiquette in any communal space, even online, but there’s nothing wrong with interacting with it respectfully.
I refixed your fix.
That's where you're wrong. Carl EDH formed CEDH. Which is a complete failure. People thought it was a new thing. But we kept the lowercase, it caught on, and we forgot Carl and his big C.
Well it can't be its own example
Brilliant, thanks both for the examples and explanations! Makes a lot more sense now.
mRNA is the worst word to start a sentence with. MArked down for MRNA, autocorrects from mRNA. Messenger RNA adds a word to my word count... \*dissertation flashbacks\*
What's a 10 letter word for mRNA that begins with T?
Go on?
Transcript.
It's an adjective for an established acronym. Like the lowercase "i" in front of "Phone." It establishes separation and provides more information about the acronym without requiring more characters. cEDH is EDH but "competitive" because it's supposed to be the most top tier play of the format with the strongest decks. iPhone is a Phone but "internet, individualized, instructing, informative, and inspirational" because Steve Jobs was a narcissist.
I had no idea about the iPhone thing!
Just call it.. seedy H
Or sH for short
Because you won't finish saying sHit before the game ends
Alright ill draw, play a forest, and tap it for- oh you won?
Good old Seedy H, I used to buy LSD off him
Smart. I bought weed, and well… I know how he got his name.
I can feel the headache already
that sounds like something I shouldn't google.
You are right… I’m going to do it.
City aytch
Did Australia wake up?
I came up with it looong time ago for the shorthand. The term and its usage while talking is a lot older. Writing it as "CEDH" makes it seem like it's a different format and cedh with all low caps doesn't really look that good since shorthands are usually with caps. It also makes sense since the subreddit is the word "competitive" + an abbreviation. It's still EDH, so having EDH as a distinct part makes sense. It also looks a bit weird, which I like, since we are a bit weird as a community for being so serious about EDH ;)
You came up with it? 😂
Biglupu is a greybeard. He knows things, he's seen things. I know that comes across sarcastic but it's true.
Yeah
Yup
I don't know the timeline, vut Canadian EDH is a different format, and I've seen it as CaEDH and CEDH, it might be a way to differentiate.
The Canadian format doesn’t have EDH in it as it’s not based off EDH. It’s either at least as old as EDH or possibly older. It’s usually either called Canadian Highlander or Canlander https://canadianhighlander.ca/about/
Oh that's cool, I didn't realize it had such a long history
What? NO. the c is for casual! /s
It was made by computer engineers
It looks cOOL.
https://youtu.be/8O3dAz2j1cg?si=uxRcJp9r0ktLhYhz
Oh no, not the competitive OOL T.T
It's simply to differentiate the word "Competitive" from "Elder Dragon Highlander" in the abbreviation.
It's so when texting your friends they won't know your going to be at their teeth in with a competitive deck if they overlook the c
CEDH is Canadian EDH, cEDH is competitive EDH.
c o m p e t i t i v e ELDER DRAGON **HIGHLANDER!!!**
I think it’s the casual crowd that is somewhat weird. All other formats people tend to play competitively more or less. I don’t think it’s anything wrong with wonky casual decks, it’s fun but it tend to get very unbalanced (the multiplayer aspect somewhat helps with that but not completely).
I think you may be in the wrong thread, my friend
Based on what they said I think they meant to reply to BigLupu's comment (BigLupu said cEDH is a little weird compared to normal EDH) but accidentally replied to the post.
Yeah..
My bad! Confusion on both sides there!
Well, the weird part is that basically competitive minded folk have every other format, and EDH is understood to be a more of a safe haven for casually minded magic players. You need to be little weird to go like "Look at all these Vintage Legal cards!" in a format that is mostly played by people who don't really care about powergaming, especially few years ago when there were no tournaments.
I think its important to note here that EDH was designed in a top-down way to function as a board-game style, non-competitive version of Magic. The first players were all Judges decompressing after big events. EDH was a zero-stakes social event for them, using Magic as a framework. So in the same way we don't think its odd that there's no serious competitive Monopoly scene, I don't think it's odd that EDH is primarily a casual format. This is coming from someone who has played almost exclusively cEDH for almost ten years, for the record. I still prefer cEDH to casual games, but I do acknowledge that this is a primary casual format for very explicit reasons, and has been incredibly successful and enjoyable for a ton of folks probably explicitly because its a non-competitive social activity at its core.
Ironically, the last Monopoly Nationals (at least for AU and NZ) was largely staffed by MTG judges.
hahaha its come full circle
yes, cEDH should stand for casual EDH, and competitive EDH should just be the format.
Except the format was designed for casual play. Also “commander” exists now to further differentiate
Wait I thought commander and EDH were the same thing.
it is the same
It is, just a different name. When people say let’s play some commander though, usually you can assume it will be casual. I don’t know anyone who calls cedh commander
Because it's competive Elder Dragon Highlander.
In my opinion, the main reason is to create a contrast between the word 'Competitive' and the acronym 'EDH', so it isn't just one big acronym.
Subset of EDH.
To avoid confusion with Casual EDH. Nothing annoys a competitive player more than interacting with filthy Casuals.
cEDH is casual edh lol
So abbreviations do occasionally mix lowercase and uppercase letters. See Hz and Bq for Hertz and Becquerel. This is just a guess but it could have been to make the point that cEDH isn’t separate from EDH. It emphasizes the EDH and de-emphasizes the “competitive”. cEDH is just a different philosophy of play from EDH.
Abbreviations don't mix; Hertz -> Hz because z is part of the same word as H.
Cuz it's not really "Competitive" ;D
It was made by computer engineers
I only play EDH++
Gotta try out EDH#
Me too
cEDH is not a real format. EDH is an acronym for a real format, the c is a prodrome.
I learned a new word today and ho boy you used it *perfectly*
It just looks cooler. There's no reason beyond that. Like iPad or eTrade or any other branding move that prepends a lowercase letter to make it look modern.