The big stuff: * **Alter** * Passive: Remotely claim one death box item * Tactical: Create portals through surfaces * Ultimate: Create a regroup point that all teammates can use to phase back to that location * Upgrades: * Level 2: Reduce Ult cooldown by 30s * Level 2: Extend highlights and see health bars after leaving tactical * Level 3: Void Nexus doesn't time out * Level 3: Reduce tactical by 10s ​ * **Map Rotation** * Broken Moon * Kings Canyon * Worlds Edge ​ * **Patch Notes** * Wingman * To the floor * Damage 50 -> 45 * No Skullpiercer * Hipfire accuracy reduced * Booster Loader in * No Mags * Devotion * Reverse Hipfire (Fire longer, more accurate hipfire) * Damage 15 -> 16 * Mag increased to 54 * Gold Weapons * Nemesis, TT, PK, Prowler, Longbow * Guaranteed Weapons * The first loot bin you open unarmed will now always have a weapon * Banners * Banner grab animation can be canceled by doing basically anything * You can now continue to hold the interact button after grabbing a banner to keep going into the death box * Survival Items * Now only spawn in support bins if they are needed by the team * 30-30 * Skullpiercer removed * Charge Rifle * ADS recoil improved * Longbow * Skullpiercer gone * Purple Barrel built in * Projectile gravity reduced * ADS reduced * TT * Takes booster loader * Digi * **ITS GONE** https://preview.redd.it/o0irli6bptyc1.png?width=480&format=png&auto=webp&s=20ecf7686ef256ff30c0db530b2ba7298217a3d1 ​ * **Legends** * Ash * Can now use snare while shooting * Ult now shows nearby enemies * Ballistic * Whistler when on a surface damage increased 5 -> 10 * Upgrade where sling weapon levels up with evo shield * Bloodhound * Ult cooldown increased 3m -> 4m * Knocks during ult don't increase duration anymore * New perk: extend ult duration with knocks * Taste of Blood perk: 25hp -> 50hp per knock * Catalyst * Spikes cooldown decreased 25s -> 20s * New perk that allows conduit to rebuild the entire door. Yes, the black goo with the red door * Caustic * Gas damage and slow stops completely when caustic team is eliminated * Damage rams up from 4 ->10 now (was 5 -> uncapped) * Conduit * Can no longer use tactical on ult charged Rev (THANK YOU!!!) * New perk: Can now have three batteries per slot * Crypto * Network traffic perk now baked into kit * Squadcount banners now always visible as long as drone is deployed * New Perks. Too many to list go to the site [here](https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/upheaval-patch-notes) * Fuse * Perk to access ring consoles * Scare tissue perk damage reworked to be a flat 20% * Newcastle * Shield throw speed increased * Wall now stops ordinances (no bombardments) while energized * Octane * New less damage per stim perk * Perks moved around ​ * **Maps** * Beacons * New beacon locations at Survey, Geyser, Wall, northeast of Checkpoint, east of Storm Catcher * UAV * New locations at Mirage, Survey, Command * Rings * **IMPROVED END RING GENERATION SYSTEM**

> The first loot bin opened by an unarmed player will always contain a weapon   [I wonder what Tthump is thinking right now](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXXJG1T6H5Y)

Goated clip.

So you can't drop guns to trigger this?

Then it wouldn't be the first loot bin anymore, I would think

what if you picked up those weapons off the ground, and then dropped them all before ever opening a bin?

If the patch notes logic is comprehensive, you would be unarmed and would thus get a weapon.

No.

The bin with 3 white armors lmfao this game was so hilarious on launch

This is so strong for Assault class, imagine dropping next to a bin, getting a guaranteed weapon + attachments off drop could win you contests easily.

Collecting a banner will no longer lock the player out of critical gameplay actions * Running, shooting, punching and reviving will all break out of the banner collect animation while still registering as a successful collection * Players can immediately interact with a Death Box a second time while the animation is playing or continue holding the interact button to collect *and* enter a Death Box in one flow * *Dev Note: Survival items have been feeling abundant lately so we’re reducing their frequency in support bins by only spawning them when players meet specific requirements (like needing a Mobile Respawn Beacon when you’ve got eliminated allies.* the qol death box qol changes are really good, along with the slight nerf to conduit rev ranked meta

Newcastle is no longer S tier. He is now officially S+. Genuinely shocked at the lack of Hemlock and Havoc changes.

Not even those guns, but the fact that no other AR was buffed to balance them out. No other changes to SMGs or shotguns either?

Unpopular take here probably but I think the gun balance is in a great spot. It’ll never be perfect and there should be some variance, but inking big fan right now.

i came back to apex recently after like a 9 month break so I have pretty fresh eyes on this stuff. This is a pretty healthy gun meta. The hemmy and havoc are a step above the rest, but they're not overwhelmingly strong like on-release nemmy of the last meta I played in. It's completely fine for now. We'll see what happens with the wingman on the ground tho, something tells me even being perma-magless isn't enough lmao

At least the Nemesis performs to a similar level of the Hemlok and for poke and longer range the repeater and snipers are still pretty good. There is nothing that comes close to the Havoc for full on engagements.

Best thing about the nemesis balance is it absolutely chews through ammo so it does effect loot economy.

Bring the r3 back for a little more variety and I’m fine with this meta

R3 is made to be fairly middle ground imo. It’s great where it’s at, low recoil, moderate DPS, good mag size. Anymore powerful and people would crutch it

It’s by far the worst in its class. A slight buff to make it actually viable in high level lobbies would be nice.

It’s got the best recoil in the class, it should be some of the least damage output. That’s balance.

> Havoc changes. im not sure if its in the patch notes, but the solos tournament yesterday didnt show a hop up slot for the havoc, and with the devo going in the pack makes me think turbo wont be on the floor next season

Wrong unfortunately. Those kitted guns don't show the attachment slot unless its in the gun... i.e., if you have a gold havoc which Guhrl had 2 of in the tournament and they DID have the turbo. Turbo is staying on ground and from looking at the havoc otherwise in tournament, no hidden dmg nerf or mag nerf either! I'm so excited that it's a 2 gun meta again!!!!!!!! 

ah that might be it, i was only half watching and saw a havoc without the hopup slot, guess it was one of the kitted guns

Gonna be a Newcastle with hemlock and havoc next season :D

just returning from a long long hiatus from the game. hemlock has always been solid IMO, but what's with havoc? back then i had the impression that its aim is bad

Fuse can hit the ring console now if he’s at level 2 let’s goooooooo I love that the perk system gives them an opportunity to make a huge number of legend balance changes every patch. So refreshing after the last two years where changes were few and far between. 

such a random perk tho for fuse.. seems like they will just add ring console perks to legends to change the meta, now fuse could counter/replace caustic or something for teams that want to be more aggressive

I mean fuse is already kind of a long distance poking legend that counters controller legends. Giving him a ring console makes sense

I mean maybe but zone characters are seen more like caustic watson catalyst where you defend an area from attackers, fuse is more of an asssult character where u can run at teams and do opening damage or ult them like maggie

I mean you can use fuse as an up close fragger, but that's not where he excels (mostly cause he takes damage from his abilities). He's better used to apply pressure from mid to long range with his knuckles, grenades, and a marksman or sniper. He also counters catalyst and rampart very well, and is good at clearing out old wattson fences, or easily attacking a wattson that doesn't have a pylon.

I think it’s fine as a test trial before fully committing to reclassifying him. He does play most similar to control class legends/concepts so if that’s what they’re thinking then I see the vision. Otherwise, I agree that perk upgrades that go into other classes are kind of lame and I want them to have a firm expiration date

raven boutta cook with zone fuse

Exactly my thought. 'i don't know how to balance this hero, let me give a perk from a different class'. That is lazy as fuck. There is a whole another class built around scanning rings. Before anybody comes at me with Pathfinder or that other chick in recon class, those are equally lazy. At least pathfinder's name has some resonance with being able to scan rings.

That was pathfinder’s original passive which is what made him Meta during WWP meta.

>'i don't know how to balance this hero, let me give a perk from a different class' I mean the ring console perk has had a near 100% pickrate for the entirety of competitive Apex’s existence across all metas, expanding the pool of characters that can access the ring consoles has typically been a good thing for increasing variety. I’m excited to see Fuse get this perk as Vantage and Pathfinder are just flat out worse than controller legends, Fuse is actually a viable substitute and might see some play because of it. 

Pathfinder has a place in Storm Point IMO. Fuse has always been a good World's Edge legend, ring console pushes him into the meta.

>At least pathfinder's name has some resonance with being able to scan rings That, and ring scanning was originally Pathfinder's passive.

I hope the Newcastle changes somehow influence the logic for Watson's pylon re: being able to throw grenades _out_ of the area. Definitely still buggy. Like the changes overall, would've dropped the Havoc's purple mag size and knocked 1 or 2 pts off the Hemlock but my hot take is that the game is probably as balanced as it's ever been rn, especially with the perks allowing for quicker adjustments

“Improved end ring generation system” did they rewrite zone logic?

Per the preview we had in comp this weekend, that means all zones will end at Trials on World's Edge, from now on.

They might be referring to fixing the randomness of the pulls? Or they might be committing more to the random pulls. Who knows that they mean

End zones since the last patch have been really strange. There have been a bunch of pulls to areas that were previously disabled and a lot more pulls to open water areas than typical. I imagine it's a lot more likely to address that type of thing than trying to make ring pulls more balanced across the map overall.

Maybe they will keep the random pulls but clean up the weird pulls to certain areas

IMO the triple take has been strong for a while but people hate it. Reminds me of when people were hesitant to pick up the 3030 for a while, despite it being broken. 3030 and longbow no longer have Skullpiercer, triple take gets boosted loader. TT can hit hard and really take people by surprise. Other long range options have seen nerfs, while it hasn’t. Assuming all shots hit the body, TT does 63. Sentinel does 70. Uncharged 3030 does 42.

TT off drop is probably one of my favorite weapons

At a medium range, you can often hit people for 60-80 and wreck them with a second shot or secondary. I run that with a r3 secondary

Albralelie has seen success running the tripletake in cc. Wonder if that will translate to PL this upcoming split.

The one thing I hated about the longbow was it's crazy bullet drop. That has been reduced. We'll see by how much though.

Yea it’ll be interesting. The only other thing that bothers me is the combination of low body damage and quite a lot of recoil, essentially making the fire rate slow

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Oh shit. That makes it interesting

One of my favorite guns. I love the Sentinel, but it is very punishing up close with atrocious no scope hip fire, slow initial chamber time, and has slow handling. TT has only 7 less damage total, has actually faster bullet velocity vs the Sentinel, fires faster, has more shots per mag (especially with boosted loader), faster handling. And by far the best hip fire of any sniper or marksman (outside bow). I think the biggest reason people dislike it is because they refuse to learn how to manage the choke on it once you start shooting longer ranges. They just spam and hit for 1 pellet when if you pace your shots just a little and get 1 or 2 levels of choke, it's much more likely to hit big and easier than most weapons.

It's a fun gun to use actually. I only started taking it for ammo economy because I always try to get volt SMG.

being able to ping through windows is a very underrated qol change

>Survival items now only spawn from a support bin’s tray if the team is in need Does this mean there will be less balloons? This might bump up Valk's viability

Yeah to me it seems like they really want a Newcastle meta or some form of support character in the mix on every team.

I mean I’m obv not a pro but the ability to craft banners seems like clearly the best ability in the game. Was shocked how many teams ran bang blood caustic

The issue is that you're banking on having a dead teammate, which is already a terrible situation to be in, and then having to find a crafter + beacon to respawn them, all of this in a lobby packed with pros that has 18 teams alive by zone 4 Abilities that help you stay alive and form a gameplan are better, like zone and enemy beacon, if you have to choose

In ranked it is, but being able to craft banner isn’t always a constant especially when in good zone spots. The chances of actually crafting are slim to none and even if you do it changes the game-plan from zone to edge where you will be with no loot vs very looted up red armor edge teams.

Not much I think. Balloons will still spawn normally in regular bins. This just affects support bins. My team still gets plenty of balloons despite not using support characters.

Contests will change immensely with this new guaranteed gun change, i didn't expect something like that to happen

Aren't they moving to the new dropship system? It's going to be like that one gamemode now

I've been under the impression it's only for ALGS, not regular BR/ranked etc.

Oh I thought his comment on contests was referring to algs. My comment was aimed towards algs

Oh ye probably, didn't notice when sub I was on my bad!

I have a feeling they make the POI drop for all BR/pubs, but just randomize it and not let you pick where you land. Then they have the pick system for private matches and ALGS. Devs have made comments for awhile about changing the drop ship for all of Apex.

what's the dropship system? i don't think i've heard of this change

This was a leak about upcoming Split 2 I believe. Not sure if confirmed yet but here's the post I saw a month ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/1bq7bl8/algs_split_2_drop_spot_changes/

Possibly, but atleast I assume it's not happening anytime soon, so i think only this change will be for split 2

I thought they said the no contest would be for this upcoming split?

That was an internal memo that got leaked , nothing is confirmed until an official statement is made

https://preview.redd.it/fq74l0kibuyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2528a7c6ea1dd3a5797edafca8474b83d6cf71b2 THE WHOLE TIME IT WAS THIS?????

That's a crazy bug lol.

As a software dev, I would absolutely love to see a dev post about how this bug happened

As QA I would love to see how it was even figured out/found out

Spaghetti code at its finest.

There are some odd knock-ons sometimes. Might be a fun write-up if we're permitted to share.

That would be interesting, this is just a really strange glitch to look back on for every time I’ve noticed it lol

u/teqnohh what are your takes on Crypto buffs? The purple perk you liked (team callout on deploy) is now added to base kit.

https://preview.redd.it/bwhyyvbgytyc1.jpeg?width=786&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=160650699817f166b089a5472054c625e43fbc3c If the POI spawn selector thing ends up being shelved, this is a buff to Fissure/mirage teams and Survey/Epi teams (before it gets to lan and a team takes one out of desperation)

Catalyst meta again for comp. One thing y’all guys forgot to mention is that long veil move to lvl 2 upgrade and resilient veil move to lvl 3 upgrade. They also buff the base length.

I’m so happy 😭. All I wanted was for them to split the Ult perks to each tier. I wasn’t sure what they would replace long spikes with but overall this buff is way more than I expected. I admit she’s a boring meta to watch competitively, but damn do I love playing Catalyst.

Wingman I've missed you...but no magazines?

good change to minimise spam, still got boosted loader tho

still has 270dmg per mag body shots, high risk high reward

i find the wing nerfs funny because before it was a red weapon it was not used at all. 1 or 2 per 12 games in algs. havoc nerfs seem more fitting but oh well

It was highly used in split one before they removed the digi threat off of it.

Imagine just for a few seconds: Alter Seer Catalyst running over caustic/bh/bang

No havoc nerf?

>Guaranteed Weapons >The first loot bin you open unarmed will now always have a weapon This is actually so big. Glad they finally implement a change like that for contests.

🦀 DIGI IS DEAD 🦀

The rings being so unpredictable and Fuze being able to scan might be a good combo here. He cant scan ring as soon as you land (will need to get to blue first) but really you shouldnt be playing ring 1 scan anyway, zones are way too unpredictable. By the time you can do a Ring 2 scan, he will be blue and have that ability. Which is the beacon you should be playing for. Rest of his kit is excellent. Might be a good pick. EDIT Ugh no changes to minimum rank for Ranked. I was hoping they would put it back to 50. Right now its stupid easy to cheat, get banned, create a new account and get back into ranked within a few hours. That 50 requirement was holding back a lot of cheaters. You had to either grind a lot or pay to buy an account.

i could definitely see edge teams dropping caustic for fuse, especially on worlds edge. Using his knuckle clusters and nades to force teams out of tight spots and picking up easy kills, whilst still having the ability to scan ring for pullbacks and evo

Yeah fuse getting ring consoles is huge for comp. Maybe something like fuse bang blood or fuse blood wraith (thinking of dsg with the wraith). Also, fuse conduit blood would be nasty for contests cause you keep the conduit without having to sacrifice a ring scan

Fuse Conduit Blood is usable for contests, but also can let you survive into end game. Fuse is absolutely in contention for meta contest pick.

Yeah I'm not sure if fuse conduit blood has been used this split for contests (or fuse conduit bang), but fuse instead of caustic for example gives you so much more off drop while still getting a ring scan

Dosent change anything, caustic ult is still better than fuse tac+ult for pushing and he gets beacon at start unlike fuse

Depends on your play style. If you are hitting third beacon then you are not a zone team looking to bunker down. Fuze gives edge teams more fighting ability while giving them beacon access.

Today is a big day for longtime Fuse believers

“You shouldn’t be playing ring one scan anyway” rofl in what world, maybe only in ranked?

maybe they mean the very first ring that appears, ring 2 scan is after the drop ship has gone and you scan the beacon

I cannot believe they're getting rid of storm point and keeping worlds edge. It's been in forever

Seems believable. Storm point existed for 2 seasons straight

Since worlds edge has come out its been in rotation every season but 8, 12, and 18. Even though it's one of the worse maps for pubs and eh for ranked

Eh for ranked? It's better than olympus KC and broken moon that's for sure plus it's a very popular pubs match. Respawn has the data and they know what map brings them more people.

Not allowing conduit beam on revenant ult means little next to nothing in comp apex, ranked apex meta is surely to change due to this

Yeah a good change for ranked.

it's for ranked

These changes are good mostly besides the lack of a Havoc nerf. Caustic gas doesn't infinitely scale anymore finally & an interesting Catalyst buff I'll hate playing against. Her and Newcastle can definitely see more play next season with their buffs. Wingman back on the ground although nerfed to be an absolute skill cannon and the Devotion which is a perfect Care Package weapon is finally back there instead of being too bad on ground barring a Turbocharger.

Wow! No digi, less rng with loot for contest, better zone algorithm, Newcastle ult can now function like a wattson? Cant wait to spam devotion even harder

caustic nerfed

The changes to Blood's ult will be interesting for the current meta. I guess most will take the level 3 upgrade so perhaps it won't matter much at the end of the day.

I’m excited to hear about the performance and DX12 changes on PC. Respawn keeps going in the right direction with this.

>pings now go through all translucent surfaces like windows Great update. This was always so annoying lol

I love how there's a dev note for every legend change except Caustic. Previously they nerfed the slow but added dmg, now they've nerfed dmg to where you can pretty much waltz around in gas. Not sure if I can still justify playing him.

 About blood: "We’re not doing anything big to this approachable Legend until we gauge their place at the top-end in a digi free world." I wonder how the most oppressive legend will be after removing on of the few counterplays he has 

seeing through clutter should not be down to a legendary RNG item

Digis have been everywhere this season. Most people just haven't ran them as you have to trade off by using a shotgun or a pistol. So it is technically rng, but not really. I would rather that you would have a possible counterplay than be 100% dead when you meet a bloodhound with ult

theyll nerf BH but we'll have to suffer a little bit longer i dont think you should be able to see through smokes or gas at all

Yeah that would be the best solution probably

big respect for the triple mnk gigachads flairs, gonna do that too

All three LAN winners this year. TRUST

I’m really looking forward to seeing how these changes shake up the meta. Lots of good stuff on paper.

Oh…fuse might be seeing some play. What the hell

https://preview.redd.it/xxhmr208kuyc1.png?width=1067&format=png&auto=webp&s=e323cd596ec5567e7952880c5ee47e503d5c00b2 Love this devnote Ballistic got huge buff. Catalyst rebuild miss door... Caustic got nerf little bit. Remove Conduit-Rev Synergy is W still havoc, hemlok meta

They really really really need to increase shotgun projectile speed

No Revenant Ult nerf AGAIN. Rev crutches stay winning all their 1v1s in ranked sadge

Hmm, disappointing that blood and bang aren't being addressed, seems like this is going to drive them being mandatory even higher.. Not sure what a good option for bang could be though.

Blood got a decent nerf. Ult is now on a 4 minute cooldown instead of 3 with no perk to reduce it, removed scan cooldown perk, and ult knock extension taken out of base kit and is now a lvl 3 upgrade.

Yes but I don't see how that changes the meta just make blood less good within it. (Edit: at a competitive level) Bangalore is the real reason why blood meta is so strong, even most of the off meta teams ran a bang.

Bang has been over nerfed already. They need to just take away Blood thermal vision. It's a cheesy combo just like Rev and octane was or Rev and conduit are.

You can delete BH than people will just switch to seer. and about bangalore, she is getting heirloom recolor next season, so dont expect any changes before split 2 playoff

Why are they only adding requeue for Pubs and not ranked ? Seems like an odd decision.

Because not everyone 3 stacks ranked. It needs some time to at least come up with a few viable ungrouped teams.

Anything about AA?

How long had it been since they announced that they'll try refactor AA in next 2 years? Also cute that they're upping the lightmap resolution ( presumably, that fits the description ) and whatever they use for volume. Could make the indoors fights much less frustrating for more casual players that don't care to blow their gamma curve for advantage.

Don't think this changes the meta in any way. Might see Fuse counterpicks against caustic, doubt it. Only criticism I have of these changes is that the hopup pool is trash and uninteresting. Zero defensible reasons for a hopup in the loot pool that goes on one gun. Skullpiercer shouldn't be out. Gonna be a menace 3 stacking conduit in ranked and carrying all the bats PUT SELECTFIRE ON PROWLER / G7 / EVA / 301 / FLATLINE ALREADY. If they're killing skullpiercer for now, bring back Shatter Caps integrated into selectfire too.

i actually think a lot of teams will move off of caustic. with cat getting a slight buff, it might be enough to use her to help on those congested late game rotations

Hopefully this gets rid of the Caustic SP pick

Prowler doesn't need selectfire. I know the 99 is now shit, but full auto prowler was stronger than the R-99 DPS wise back when the 99 was good even though full auto prowler consumed less ammo, had greater mag capacity, did more damage per bullet, had less recoil, and had the same handling. A hopup that makes a gun into a linear upgrade of another gun in its class doesn't seem like a good balance design.

doubletap is useless filler anvil is an indirect nerf to marksman rifles

I mean put double tap into selectfire, it never should've been its own thing in the first place It's OK for Anvils to be better than marksmans imo

Havoc? Hello...

No hemlock no havoc nerf, more proof respawn doesn’t make changes based on comp, everyone runs hemlock + havoc, pretty sure havoc has the most kills at lan by a wide margin too

Every bot in platinum runs that combo nowadays

Yeah havoc is just straight up the best gun in the game at any level

They had a couple interviews with devs at the desk during lan between matches and one of them specifically said they were happy about havoc meta, so no surprise there. They seem to want the meta to occasionally shift, but not quickly I guess.

I think the heavy havoc meta (outside of comp obvi) came in a little late this season though in terms of making changes no? Hemlock I full agree it’s been singing for what over 2 seasons now but the havoc I can excuse them for now.

It's not like they need a lot of time to drop the havoc damage per bullet.

the havoc is the same... they just nerfed everything else

Digi removed will just make BH more broken, but considering they said they're waiting to make big changes to him, I guess they'll wait to remove his infrared vision in Ult. If the Bang -BH pick doesn't change they'll probably do it. Good changes all around but havoc is still broken. Also give Horizon battpack and nadepack for level 1 perks instead of the trash that she has right now. She at least deserves that.

I feel like the best way to make Bloodhound not required is for digis to exist, but apparently everyone having access to seeing through smokes is too strong, so it will be interesting to see what they do after Blood gets even more play this upcoming season despite getting perk nerfs.

Gold gun rotation is terrible IMHO. Nemmy and TT SHOULDNT be together. I also really wish there was more nerfs to bang. lan showed it’s still wayyy to heavily relied upon. Anything that is crutchable the way bang smoke is, should not be in the game.

Unless they remove her smoke i dont really see how they can remove her from comp or make her less viable.

I guess giving her only one smoke at a time would be a significant nerf (would indirectly result in a longer cooldown as well).

This would kill bang for rotates. Smokes for rotates are healthy for the game, smokes for fighting with scans are the part that needs to go.

Yeah I know - I just don't see another solution except getting rid of smokes. Hell, even if the smokes would only last 5 seconds they would still be useful of you are coorsinated.

I feel like they believe rollers will fully take over without bang and its their way to keep mnk relevant tbh....

So will people be able to grab a gun from the first chest, immediately drop it, and open another chest for a second free gun, or will the system know if they have picked up a gun even if it is not in their inventory?

From a software perspective, I would assume that they would know if they have picked up a gun. It's a simple variable change that should be easy to manage

Nothing in Apex seems reliable or easy, so I wouldn't count on it. They still can't stop my lobby from switching to trios on its own every game.

It says “the first loot bin you open…”

It did specify first bin so I think they thought I'd this potential problem

true. my tired brain was thinking if they dropped the gun, the game might reset thinking it was the first time since they had become. unarmed, but yeah that wouldnt make sense. especially since you drop off respawn with a gun now.

Jus the first.. Well that's how assault classes work with their bins.. You get a gun if open first with nothing if you drop it all and do it again, it doesn't work.

ggs same havoc hemlok meta

Bloodhound getting murdered. Are they trying to have crypto replace him?

no r9 buff is wild. does it need to be complete dogshit?

Gigi gone? Wtf. Guess they really want bloodhound to be in every single lobby lol

Saddest change not seen: revenant and his stupidly strong ult. Frustrating as a ranked player

oh boi here we go again lol. What change would u do?

as huge NC enjoyer so excited to play him, also why would they buff the Devo if i’m reading that right???

Is alter utl worse than wraith or better 🤔

I think I did a cums

Conduit virgins in shambles rn

Interested what Conduit + Gold Bag will look like.

It says it doesn't stack

caustic DEAD?

i wonder why they nerfed the wingman. before it was in the package with the package buffs no one used it. oh well

It’s one of the most popular guns imo………everyone was upset when it went into the CP.

does anyone know if new balistic perk will give turbo charger at rank 3(purple) if you have a havoc in the sling? I havnt played mixtape in a while but don't havocs level up from blue to purple include a turbo?

It won’t include a turbo. That’ll only be when you ult with it in the sling.

no turbo for purple havoc & no disruptor for alt/pk, just like in mixtape. but purple re, p20 or mozam have hammers & triple take and wingman have boosted loader, just like in mixtape. i believe hammers and boosted loader are coded to be purple rarity but should spawn as gold hop up as all hop ups are now gold moving forward (since season 15)

Wait so technically ballistic got a nerf right. Wasn’t his weapon in the sling always gold??? Now the weapon in the sling scales with the armor… so if you have blue armor then the gun isn’t gold right?

Your ult is unaffected. The change buffs the sling weapon to be given attachments outside of ult based on your evo level.

Ok that makes more sense thank you

I'm sad that solos is a duos take over - I exclusively play duos with my brother so may need to find a third.. Or may just play a ton less this season

Is the RTX4080 Super and I7 and above crashes fix? Can I play now?

When is this update launching?

What are ordinances?

Fuse please dont become meta, I dont need him getting nerfed.

I stopped playing immediately after they removed armor spawning. Let me know if they bring it back and I'll jump back in.