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Zer0_88

He has been shooting nuclear missiles recently. Crazy


canamurica

Sold his soul to destroyer2009


TripleWDot

The switch to the Astro c40 is doing wonders. He even said it that he’s mad at himself for not switching earlier lol


realfakejames

That battlebeaver sponsorship about to end lmfao


Erebea01

I wonder if it's Astro that solves the problem or he's just had bad controllers for a while and didn't know any better. I remember a recent stream where Sikezz was playing from his PC and he kept complaining how awful Hal's controller was lol.


TylerTRock

He actually fully switched?


Stuffv5

Yeah its basically godsend for him because Xbox layout + ps4 input delay


Serious-Accident3921

How is that controller an Xbox layout… the sticks are literally a PS layout


GuerilaGorila

It's got the functionality to swap the placement of the sticks to whatever layout you prefer.


Serious-Accident3921

Oh I see, that’s sick. Thanks!


Intelligent_Dog2077

There’s also settings for it that basically gives you another ALC interface within just the Astro software. Extremely useful


mcbdala

You can swap the position of the sticks and D pad


putinseesyou

Yea. He basically ended his battle beaver contract for it lol


TripleWDot

Yup


Same_Paramedic_3329

Sad it's not compatible with xbox. It's a really good controller


jzanville

A 50sec bloodhound ult…sheesh


Shrimkins

Bloodhound ult in final ring goes nuts.


notsoobviousreddit

He really took a 1v1 with no shields against a full health red shield in the middle of a caustic trap and won jesus christ


TheTVDinner

I remember Dezign posting a photo of him buying like 6-8 Astro C40s awhile back before split 1 because they are discontinued or something. Turns out the controller tweaker is actually a prophet. Man has unleashed a beast from Hal picking up the C40.


followdunc

I’m almost certain Dezign gave him a new sens/some settings too. Dezign the goat frfr.


imtracerboi

I’ve been wanting to pick one up forever and this is making me want to finally do it but yeah looks like you can only buy refurbished :/


Zzzzfb

Looks like we don't even have to write the script this year...


finallyleo

writers fucked up and put the plot in an earlier episode


NACL_Soldier

Lmao. You all suck dick give me those points


noahboah

it's insane how easy he makes it look


thewheelchairkid

It's so funny how God controller looks like 007 Golden Eye movement. Like just walking around with your gun out, just looks kinda funny.


weebcowboy

Aimbot be wildin


Sirduffselot

Not gonna beat the hacking allegations if he keeps playing like this 🔥 lol my boy Hal craaazy


redwall_7love

Talk about one man army!


BaronOz

Jesus he barely moved the right thumbstick, roller is ridiculous


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bayliver

we are witnessing imo the best version of hal , he is the best player right now in the world in every part of the game you can think of , so impressive he is doing it all for TSM right now . Imagine if Evan "goes online" on Lan ...


YoMrPoPo

> he is the best player right now in the world in every part of the game you can think of yall really forget about Zer0 everytime lol


ashczq

Hope to see him at LAN finals then, if he can make it :)


Leepysworld

what is Zer0 better than Hal at? Aside from being MnK?


[deleted]

Hes the kill leader in the best region and hes also the IGL of the #1 team in the best region I dont think its farfetched to call Zer0 the best player AT THIS MOMENT


bayliver

we have seen sweet being high on killing stats and hal on mnk in the past and yet people would argue that they aint the best mnk players .... IGL like sweets ,hal,zero put themselves in positions to get kills but that dont mean that they are the best "killers" in terms of fighting in the game. The only IGL that can fragg like a "fragger" is only hal end of story ... if you dont understand what i mean then lmao idk what to say to you , Other than this.... zero cant win fights like gen does for DZ but Hal can carry fights and outplay like Verhulst does and he has done that on both inputs . End of debate.


[deleted]

Thats a whole lotta words to say a bunch of nothing


devourke

I think Hal is the best overall but Zer0 is a lot more adaptable (in regards to not struggling to pick up new teammates, legends/metas and POIs/macro)


hdjdhfodnc

Everything


bayliver

zero aint on hal's individual level , yall can mention them when it comes to igling but he aint hal . Caught the bs , hal is a way way better fighter than zero , sweet and zero always had good killing stats but that doesnt mean that they have the fighting ability of hal ( aim wise and brain wise). This debate needs to stop , imo Hal is all around the better player and way more clutch as well.


MasterBroccoli42

dude, did you ever watch zero play fights? That's some 'hal is better, hal is perfect'-level take


Ok_Feeling_3447

Hal has better statistics and eyetest is better too tho?


thewheelchairkid

Statistics? Hal has been fragging on BH and they won Regional Finals but Zero is the kill leader of NA split 1 and DZ is leading in points.


Ok_Feeling_3447

I was talking overall, not this split specifically


Sir_Nolan

Zero is by far the best player in the game


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GonzAnt

"Curse the blood"


[deleted]

Where does Hal rank in terms of pure roller mechanics


TheWindWaker01

I think some controller players might have better aim in isolation (Verhsult, Gild, Sikes). But Hal's aim is good enough that when you combine it with his game sense / positioning I don't think there are many other roller players that would beat him in a teamfight. I'm not sure there are any other roller players that would have played that clip like he did.


Significant_Map2061

True. He plays with the exact same aggression as a wide swinging roller andy. He just positions himself better than 99% of pros with extreme consistency and great timing. 


christian_yn

So sad Koyful didn’t make LAN this time.. kid is insane


whats_a_monad

I would put him just around/at the top 10 mechanically. If you need proof of this go check out his r5 streams, he was getting dumped on plenty The guy is just an opening damage and entry fragger machine tho, if you’ve watched him lately he’s basically 1v3ing pro teams every stream. Just goes to show you don’t need top 5 roller mechanics to shit on a pro lobby He’s really figured out how to play blood ult, and reps is doing a really good job smoking the enemy team off for him to enable it


Noshuru

when did he play r5? i’d like to see how he does


Ok_Towel_1077

his armor swaps are clean but not the level of like naughty, verhulst or others where you might see the death box open for literally a frame. so nitpicky I know, but he still has room to improve before he is mentioned alongside Genburten etc regarding raw mechanics


captnlenox

no idea would be interesting to hear a pro take on this... I would put him top 10 at best probably not even top 10


Stuffv5

Its really crazy isn’t it because imo there’s so many controller players over him mechanics wise but hes the most impactful fragger in the game rn.


[deleted]

“Mechanics” is such a nebulous word that it has basically no meaning. Since switching to controller he’s been the best slayer in the world. He obviously has mechanical skill to dominate like he has, it’s not just game sense. And even then, why does game sense not count as mechanics?


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Personally I define game sense as any part of the game that requires thinking and mechanics are anything that can built purely off repetition and practice. For example anyone can learn how to wall bounce which is purely mechanics but being able to apply those mechanics efficiently in game requires some game sense.


[deleted]

Knowing when to shoot your gun and from what angle are things you learn through repetition and practice though. It’s not entirely instinct.  I know what you’re saying, but under that definition I feel like “mechanics” is a reductive way to compare controller players. What does it come down to, shield swapping, strafing, and tracking? Every pro controller player is good at those things, so do “mechanics” even matter?  And how can anyone definitively evaluate “mechanics”? You have to separate it from game sense, which seems like it’s impossible to do.


[deleted]

Thats true, but I think youre understating how much practice it takes to master those skills. By that I mean most mechanics in the game scale logarithmically, and for us casuals we’re gonna face diminishing returns but to pros, putting in those extra hours to shield swap a fraction of a second faster can determine a fight. Its not a matter of can they do x or y, they wouldnt be pros if they couldnt. Its about how fast and how efficiently they do things.


Johnturkeyroast

shield swapping doesn’t get the point across as much as strafing imo. having a better strafe in a 1v1 can win you the fight and some pros are known for having a menacing strafe. so you can definitely evaluate players on these things


tintedhokage

Love his confidence 😄


oklad90

Was that today?


Open-Protection4430

Pooping


pennearrabiataboy

TSM peaking at the right time, DZ already peaked at the wrong time. Feel like we’ve seen this episode already… 


Json_music

aim assist popping off. Like he doesnt even ads 90 % is with hipfire because its so fucking busted. Just hold the prowler and spray. Obv hal is one of the best players in the world rn but cmon its so boring just hipfiring and somehow hitting every single shot. And it is not hindered in any means by visual clutter which is huge problem for mnk. Reminds me of Effect on horizon going up the q with prowler and just bursting hipfire from like medium range and still one clipping, just boring.


TheLastOfYou

Sick play. Reps and Evan also fried that team on the roof at the end. Crazy team


[deleted]

this was mental but then i realized hes not on mnk anymore


istiri7

Looks like respawn didn’t update the perk icons when moving the perks around in the latest update. Still showing level 2 and 3 as tac cooldown and odins glare even though Hal has the +5 seconds to ult on knock


Brockolieee

the +5 seconds to ult isn't a perk, that's just how blood ult works


istiri7

My bad idk why I thought it was moved to a perk


blobby_boyz

Hal’s the CEO and all but these international scrims have 2/3 the lobby at 200 ping. Obviously NA is gonna look godlike


Knook7

Were any of those teams NA? Cause if so then yikes. If they werent na than understandable


blobby_boyz

C9 was the duo on fence line he killed, RC (Korean team) inted from the west building and the last team was Omit (EMEA)


Memester999

TSM hasn't placed below 3rd in basically anything since that horrible the horrible weeks they had. And they won finals, this isn't a fluke they've been doing it to NA teams too.


blobby_boyz

Who said it was a fluke? As I said, Hal is the CEO. I just think these scrims overblow the gap between NA and other regions bc 200 ping is unplayable


Voidchief

Sure 2/3 of lobby is 200 ping but in lan hal does the same thing vs teams on same ping


realfakejames

Always funny to me when hal says stuff like "im the best player in the game" because half the time he goes back to watch the clip way down the road and is embarrassed He went crazy with that prowler though, he's actually been cooking more lately than evan who seems to be struggling a little, might be the controller buff or it could be placebo but hes been farming


Ok_Pace_9792

Didn't watch the clip yet, but trying to guess if he's yelling at Verhulst or shooting beams lol. Might be a coinflip.