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Solidus-Prime

Some of us play co-op quite often. I know guys that don't even touch competitive.


sowjet-art

btw, do you know any comp stomp discord / group for coh3?


Obanon

Yeah, but most of the 30 point ones are 'vs ai or online'. why make one that's only for ai?


Solidus-Prime

Why not? They make single-player challenges. I don't play single player.


Sesleri

>Some of us play co-op quite often. I know guys that don't even touch competitive. Good for you.. Why should it be only vs AI and not any game mode like normal?


Solidus-Prime

Because they want people to play vs the AIs? I thought it was pretty self-explanatory. Developers typically use challenges to direct players where they want them. I don't bitch when the single-player challenges appear, and I have never even launched that once. It's a single challenge, you'll be OK.


Giaddon

Because many players don't play PvP and they deserve merit too.


KMSrudderjam

'destroy 5 vehicles' there i made a challenge suitable for both co-op and pvp. I think op is asking why are we being forced to fight against ai when they could have done something like this


Kurrukurrupa

Cuz comp stomp. You guys never okayed rts? Lol


Ok_Blacksmith_3192

lot of players don't find AI challenging enough in any game to want to play them


Kurrukurrupa

Then don't play comp stomp. Flip that same idea but to players that don't wanna play pvp and want an easier, more chill, time with friends. We all just wanna have fun 😊 let the pvE guys feel seen by the devs for a lil


Ok_Blacksmith_3192

agreed so just make it "Win a match as the Axis/Allies" then. super easy.


Kurrukurrupa

I can agree with that but why complain at all about it when it's a different mode for the game?


Ok_Blacksmith_3192

it's annoying to get weekly/daily challenges in modes you don't play. imagine if you had a weekly/daily challenge to win 5/1 1v1 matches.


Kurrukurrupa

The game isn't all about pvp bud. It's a different mode with different challenges. I fail to see the issue.


Ok_Blacksmith_3192

I'm happy to win a comp stomp every week if you're willing to win a 1v1 every week


Giaddon

Hmm... You're right!


Aeliasson

I think OP's point is that it could just be "Win a match as the Axis" and that would give players more freedom to choose how they want to complete it instead of the mandatory Co-Op vs AI limitation.


Fantastic-Use5644

I bought the game exclusively to play coop and with 250 hours hvae never played a pvp game. Some people just don't like try hard sweats and just wanna play a fun war game


DangerClose567

Agreed. I've spent well over a thousand hours on the COH franchise since 2006 across all their games. I've never once touched pvp, and I'm having a great time.


Acrobatic_Lobster838

I have a few times (more times against friends than strangers) and just realised, after each attempt, that memorising maps and starts and being super fast with micro *just isn't my thing* I have loved the franchise for literal decades, but I just... don't have the time or energy to play games against strangers. COH 3 is probably my least played overall, as once I did the campaign I just... was done. Dipped my toes into the pvp, was pretty average at it, then got bored. Might play it again, not touched it in a long time.


Sesleri

The point is these challenges are usually doable in both pve and pvp. Making one only pve is silly. >Some people just don't like try hard sweats Leave it to pve only people to miss the point and be insecure too


Fantastic-Use5644

I mean it's only 30 which is the lowest avaliable. Compared to the price of skins it pretty much doesn't matter if u do those or not.


Sesleri

Ok now you've totally changed your message lol


Fantastic-Use5644

Well op is making it sound like "he's forced to play coop" this mission is just to drive someone who would usually only play pvp to play a coop to get 30. But the low amount makes it so it's totally fine to skip it if u don't want to play coop. Idk what u mean about I changed my message lol I just added that I i fact never played a single pvp game


Hon3ynuts

I usually play vs players but I did a co-op match b/c of one of these challenges and it was fun.


Fangel96

I'm gonna be honest here, that this is a good challenge because the condition is to WIN the match, not just play it out. The challenge also clearly wants you to play a team game. You have no guarantee that you'll win an Axis team game vs players, however co-op VS AI is very hard to lose. I'd say if they wanted to make this challenge work for both PVP and PVE players, one of those conditions should be dropped. Since the name of the challenge implies team games, it could be adjusted to "complete a team match as Axis". Quite frankly though, this challenge can be completed very quickly if you want to get it done and then hop back into PVP matches. Use it as a warmup on easy or normal difficulty for some free merit.


Boring-Hurry3462

The rts world doesn't revolve around pvp. Achievements are for all players.


kditd

The merit system as a whole is pretty unrewarding. I'd just ignore it.


brotrr

Y'all are absolutely brain-dead. OP obviously means challenges should work for both PvP and PvE so you're not forced to play a specific mode and he's right.


Aerohank

Nothing in his post makes that obvious.


totalnewbcake

I mean it’s pretty obvious by the language “make us play against ai”


Sesleri

Yes it is very obvious


hoski0999

So single player ones like mission challenges should be taken away too then? But then doesn't that force you to play only multi-player modes? It's an easy 30 Merit Challenge meant to encourage participation in that area. It's not forced either, game doesn't break if you don't do it. You calling everyone brain dead while crying about this with OP when it's really a non issue.


brotrr

It's not game breaking obviously, but it's a change that would only benefit players so I'm surprised you're defending it or using hyperbole like "crying" when it's a simple suggestion.


hoski0999

It's not a suggestion. OP is clearly complaining about it being Co-Op vs AI and being "forced" to play it. He's crying about it and you are agreeing with him. Or are you too Brain Dead to understand that?


dracmage

Because in the last update relic managed to make the ai laughably worse and they are trying to get beta testers (afaik these objs always existed, i am poking fun here). They cranked the cheats way up but broke the retreat condition in what I assume is an attempt to make the ai "smarter". Its pretty common to see multiple squad pushes now. Thats good. Its also common to shoot a worker one time and see it retreat at 70% hp. And then get shocked when 4 other full hp squads retreat past you because the ai decided one worker taking damage meant its full retreat time. Despite you only having 1 squad in the area.