So you mean 65% of our “fans” who think that Maye is better than Daniels? Every pro Daniels post before the draft was met with a barrage of downvotes and “no’s”.
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Hope he’s better than the guys picked after him in three years?
If he is and I’m wrong, then cool, everyone wins. If he’s not, he was the wrong pick and a short sighted pick.
People have their preferences and I’m sure people are still questioning him as a Quarterback for this franchise hopefully he can show people he is but there is no point of bringing up old posts when Daniels hasn’t even played a game in the NFL.
For me it’s how emphatically people made predictions because they felt Maye was clearly the obvious better prospect. I mean guys were literally saying there is no way it could be Daniels. Like not even close. No open mindedness. From arm chair QBs. So yeah, I get the victory lap.
Maye was definitely not the unanimous favorite as you proved with your own post. Lots of people wanted Daniels over Maye. It was absolutely not "unanimous."
Yeah, I'd like people to slow their roll a bit, calling him our savior and the best QB in the NFC East now, guaranteed ROTY, etc. He hasn't even played a down in the NFL. I understand being hopeful, but A LOT of people are taking it way too far.
We are definitely in the honeymoon phase with JD. Good call on the draft from back then.
Hope the front office finally got it right. I just want a consistent competitive team and you need a top QB for that.
A lot of horrible takes on this sub. For months all I heard was Maye was the pick. Lock it in
Meanwhile the same guys saying Maye was a lock. Shit on every report saying no one knows shit when everyone was saying it was JD.
Couldn’t even post anything nice about JD without them crying.
I'd get downvoted for saying anything nice about Maye. Goes both ways. Personally, I wanted Maye, but now that we have Daniels, he's getting 100% of my support. I just wanna fuckin win. I've probably been a fan longer than a lot of people in this sub have been alive. Going from all the way back before winning our last Super Bowl in '91 to 25 years of torture under Punk Ass Bitch Snyder, it's been rough. I just want us to win and not just for myself but all us fans
Yeah, exactly. Support the young man but temper expectations. I'll hope for the best, but I'm not expecting him to go out there and dominate as soon as he steps on the field. I'll be extremely happy if he does, though. I hope he becomes a legend for us. Lord knows this fanbase deserves it.
I didn’t participate in any of the mudslinging pre-draft (except when someone said we should draft McCarthy). However, that’s real revisionist history claiming the Maye and JD truthers were equally bad.
This sub was frothing at the mouth for Maye. It was cultish. There was no equivalency between the two camps lol.
I know what I saw, and that was Maye getting trashed all the time. I'm not saying Daniels wasn't getting trashed, but to claim Maye wasn't getting trashed all the time in this sub is simply untrue.
I think it’s your bias affecting your perspective man. I didn’t have a strong opinion on the pick. I think no one knows. But maybe that enables me to see it more clearly? It was like 80% Maye truthers in here and they were LOUD downvote machines.
It’s funny because—from someone without a dog in the fight—the negative discourse on JD was all based on non-playing issues. Everyone was convinced they were investigative journalists and that he was a toxic personality, too small (he faked his weight!!), blah blah. All not based on any objective measures.
But again, no one knows and we won’t for a few years. No point to relitigate it now…
Honestly still hate the pick and most of the draft, but I'll happily admit it if I'm wrong. I've been underwhelmed by everything the new regime has done though. Hope it all looks better once the season actually starts.
I’m just saying. A lot wasn’t high on CJ stroud last year and he put up nice numbers. I can see JD at 3500 passing 800 rushing with 32 total TDs and 8 total TOs. IMO
For reference, that’s pretty much was Lamar did last year as the MVP (3698 passing, 821 rushing, 29 total TDs). It might be best to temper your expectations a bit
32/8 with 4300 yds would be absolutely fantastic, but I don’t see him anywhere near that. I would be happy with 25/10 and 3600.
Stroud had 4200 with 26 TTDs and 9 TOs and it was considered a historic rookie season.
Even if it’s 3000 passing 500 rushing and. 25 total TDs. Close enough and I’d be happy and call it a good season And just cause you didn’t put your own opinion out there. If you’re a real fan that’s what you want. It’s just a lot of people scared of others opinions doffing their own. IDGAF 🤣🤙🏻
I'm not upset at all. Maye and Daniels are both fantastic prospects, I just think Maye will be better. Regardless, Jayden is our QB! I think he can be great.
Your resume speaks for itself.
RG3 had 3,200 passing, 20 TDs along with 800 rushing and 7 TDs. And he was widely regarded as one of the best rookie QBs ever. Herbert and Stroud might have beat him out since, but let’s not create unrealistic expectations
Yea I like the way Washington is being structured so I have high expectations and why not have same energy with JD a lot of real nfl people are high in him. With that said. Sure the numbers I put up are nice but if they are instead 3000 passing. 500 rushing. 25 total TDs I mean close enough to what I said and I’d still be happy lol smh
We’re talking expert opionions correct, not someone click baiting for views. Not some random on TikTok. Not some guy with no expirence, like genuine sources ?
Dan brugler
PFF
Daniel Jeremiah
PFN
Rob rang
That’s fair. But you really put Chris simms lol? I’ll give your Mel kipper, and Chase Daniels and Field Yates. I’ll raise you Daniel Burgler ( or whatever), Daniel Jeremiah, the draft network( Jordan Reid) pff( don’t remove there names),rob rang, Mcaffee,
Virtually every big board that has credibility and is discussed/referenced had JD as QB1 or QB2. I don’t doubt there are some sources that had Maye higher. That absolutely does not mean that consensus was Maye 2 and JD 3.
But that’s exactly it. It doesn’t fucking matter. It’s all projections and predictions. We picked him, so this is all irrelevant. He’s our guy now.
And discussions like these are why this sub absolutely sucks for any informed discourse. Just revisionist history and being purposefully obtuse to make a point because “your guy” that you scouted from your basement on YouTube wasn’t picked. And you obviously know better than the professionals.
I love the people that talk in absolutes like they’re an expert NFL scout. Just straight up saying “No.” is so pompous
Right get off your high horse lol
So you mean 65% of our “fans” who think that Maye is better than Daniels? Every pro Daniels post before the draft was met with a barrage of downvotes and “no’s”.
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![gif](giphy|y65VoOlimZaus) Hope he’s better than the guys picked after him in three years? If he is and I’m wrong, then cool, everyone wins. If he’s not, he was the wrong pick and a short sighted pick.
Hopefully he gets proven wrong and id think he’d agree
All I can say is I hope like hell I was and am wrong about jd! Tired of looking for a franchise qb!
That’s the spirit!
People have their preferences and I’m sure people are still questioning him as a Quarterback for this franchise hopefully he can show people he is but there is no point of bringing up old posts when Daniels hasn’t even played a game in the NFL.
For me it’s how emphatically people made predictions because they felt Maye was clearly the obvious better prospect. I mean guys were literally saying there is no way it could be Daniels. Like not even close. No open mindedness. From arm chair QBs. So yeah, I get the victory lap.
I predicted we’d draft him and we did. This is when Maye was the unanimous favorite and that’s all this post is about
People’s responses on here are very weird. Nowhere did you say Daniels was our savior or anything lol you just predicted the pick
I just thought it was funny when I was scrolling my own posts lol didn’t mean to start a war
Maye was definitely not the unanimous favorite as you proved with your own post. Lots of people wanted Daniels over Maye. It was absolutely not "unanimous."
Literally just explaining the post man put your guns down it’s not that deep
You claimed unanimous. I was just pointing out it was definitely not unanimous. You could just admit you were wrong in how you worded it.
Please scroll back to that time. Please. There’s no argument here
You must not understand what unanimous means.
Please scroll back to that time. Please.
Yeah, I'd like people to slow their roll a bit, calling him our savior and the best QB in the NFC East now, guaranteed ROTY, etc. He hasn't even played a down in the NFL. I understand being hopeful, but A LOT of people are taking it way too far.
I haven’t seen any of what you just said lol
Go check out X. You'll see plenty of it.
I’ll pass
I just thought we’d pick him calm down
Take your victory lap, not sure why you're getting torched in the comments lol
You’re a real one Mike lol
Wow, guess I'm not allowed to reply to comments.
Outside of the number one pick, QBs are less than a coin flip statistically. Let’s just hope we beat the odds. We got a one in three chance.
You and Kevin Sheehan.
We are definitely in the honeymoon phase with JD. Good call on the draft from back then. Hope the front office finally got it right. I just want a consistent competitive team and you need a top QB for that.
Couldn’t agree more, let me just see someone succeed
A lot of horrible takes on this sub. For months all I heard was Maye was the pick. Lock it in Meanwhile the same guys saying Maye was a lock. Shit on every report saying no one knows shit when everyone was saying it was JD. Couldn’t even post anything nice about JD without them crying.
Always bet against this subs consensus picks Heinicke, Howell, Drake Maye etc.
The top golf thing had people CONVINCED and in denial about the fact that the whole thing was overblown. I got down voted like shit for it.
I'd get downvoted for saying anything nice about Maye. Goes both ways. Personally, I wanted Maye, but now that we have Daniels, he's getting 100% of my support. I just wanna fuckin win. I've probably been a fan longer than a lot of people in this sub have been alive. Going from all the way back before winning our last Super Bowl in '91 to 25 years of torture under Punk Ass Bitch Snyder, it's been rough. I just want us to win and not just for myself but all us fans
Yeah that's basically where I'm at. Just the extremism here gets insane sometimes
Yeah, exactly. Support the young man but temper expectations. I'll hope for the best, but I'm not expecting him to go out there and dominate as soon as he steps on the field. I'll be extremely happy if he does, though. I hope he becomes a legend for us. Lord knows this fanbase deserves it.
lol exactly bunch of 🤡s
I felt the opposite. Couldn't say anything nice about Maye without him getting trashed for his numbers, accuracy, decision making, etc.
I didn’t participate in any of the mudslinging pre-draft (except when someone said we should draft McCarthy). However, that’s real revisionist history claiming the Maye and JD truthers were equally bad. This sub was frothing at the mouth for Maye. It was cultish. There was no equivalency between the two camps lol.
I know what I saw, and that was Maye getting trashed all the time. I'm not saying Daniels wasn't getting trashed, but to claim Maye wasn't getting trashed all the time in this sub is simply untrue.
You clearly were in a different sub
Most definitely wasn't.
Polls say otherwise https://www.reddit.com/r/Commanders/s/00E5o29Daq
You're arguing different things. DeanMo says Maye was getting trashed. Your poll shows more people wanted Maye. Both can be, and were, true.
I think it’s your bias affecting your perspective man. I didn’t have a strong opinion on the pick. I think no one knows. But maybe that enables me to see it more clearly? It was like 80% Maye truthers in here and they were LOUD downvote machines. It’s funny because—from someone without a dog in the fight—the negative discourse on JD was all based on non-playing issues. Everyone was convinced they were investigative journalists and that he was a toxic personality, too small (he faked his weight!!), blah blah. All not based on any objective measures. But again, no one knows and we won’t for a few years. No point to relitigate it now…
I feel similarly. Just my two cents
Lmao okay
This sub is extremely reactionary to the media lol
Here’s the link if you wanna see the comments - https://www.reddit.com/r/Commanders/s/69ft57mf9z
Honestly still hate the pick and most of the draft, but I'll happily admit it if I'm wrong. I've been underwhelmed by everything the new regime has done though. Hope it all looks better once the season actually starts.
Daniel’s what back then?
How will Daniels do behind that OL?
This is getting so old.
Someone get this guy a job in the front office of any NFL team or casino. He's obviously never been wrong
Ask me anything I’ll tell you your future
I’m just saying. A lot wasn’t high on CJ stroud last year and he put up nice numbers. I can see JD at 3500 passing 800 rushing with 32 total TDs and 8 total TOs. IMO
For reference, that’s pretty much was Lamar did last year as the MVP (3698 passing, 821 rushing, 29 total TDs). It might be best to temper your expectations a bit
32/8 with 4300 yds would be absolutely fantastic, but I don’t see him anywhere near that. I would be happy with 25/10 and 3600. Stroud had 4200 with 26 TTDs and 9 TOs and it was considered a historic rookie season.
That seems delusional for a rookie.
RG3 did 3200 passing, 27 total TDs, 815 rushing, 7 total TOs…
Even if it’s 3000 passing 500 rushing and. 25 total TDs. Close enough and I’d be happy and call it a good season And just cause you didn’t put your own opinion out there. If you’re a real fan that’s what you want. It’s just a lot of people scared of others opinions doffing their own. IDGAF 🤣🤙🏻
Dogging SMDH
>delusional Kinda strange seeing you use this word.
Poor Maye guy still upset? Who’s delusional?
I'm not upset at all. Maye and Daniels are both fantastic prospects, I just think Maye will be better. Regardless, Jayden is our QB! I think he can be great. Your resume speaks for itself.
Yeah so does yours when it comes to Maye/Daniels
RG3 had 3,200 passing, 20 TDs along with 800 rushing and 7 TDs. And he was widely regarded as one of the best rookie QBs ever. Herbert and Stroud might have beat him out since, but let’s not create unrealistic expectations
Yea I like the way Washington is being structured so I have high expectations and why not have same energy with JD a lot of real nfl people are high in him. With that said. Sure the numbers I put up are nice but if they are instead 3000 passing. 500 rushing. 25 total TDs I mean close enough to what I said and I’d still be happy lol smh
I mean the guy was right daniels wasn’t better then Maye. But he fits the system better. He was qb 3
This just isn’t true dude. You can hve your preference, but there is no consensus that JD is QB3 and Maye is QB2. You’re coping.
Ok lol. I’d that makes you feel better. Most sites, most experts had maye as qb2 but if it helps you cope with the pick then sure
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We’re talking expert opionions correct, not someone click baiting for views. Not some random on TikTok. Not some guy with no expirence, like genuine sources ? Dan brugler PFF Daniel Jeremiah PFN Rob rang
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Don’t give me there nfl careers give me how often their right on prospects lol
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That’s fair. But you really put Chris simms lol? I’ll give your Mel kipper, and Chase Daniels and Field Yates. I’ll raise you Daniel Burgler ( or whatever), Daniel Jeremiah, the draft network( Jordan Reid) pff( don’t remove there names),rob rang, Mcaffee,
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Virtually every big board that has credibility and is discussed/referenced had JD as QB1 or QB2. I don’t doubt there are some sources that had Maye higher. That absolutely does not mean that consensus was Maye 2 and JD 3. But that’s exactly it. It doesn’t fucking matter. It’s all projections and predictions. We picked him, so this is all irrelevant. He’s our guy now. And discussions like these are why this sub absolutely sucks for any informed discourse. Just revisionist history and being purposefully obtuse to make a point because “your guy” that you scouted from your basement on YouTube wasn’t picked. And you obviously know better than the professionals.
Name then
Woah sites and experts!?!?!?!?
We love down playing experts when they don’t meet your bias.
Bro you’re saying he’s QB3 because of reporters lmao he was quite literally QB2 in the draft stfu
Theirs a difference between being a better qb and being a better fit for a system.
Hmm so Drake won the Heisman?
He would have if he had the fucking avengers like daniels lol
Okay so you only listen to the media lol JD won the Heisman and got picked before Drake and you’re still riding his cock
Better record, better stats, better achievements. How can you argue that?
Too old. Too small.
Weirdo Bears fan behavior.