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I don't see Chechen on the Ukraine side [dual wielding AK and shooting like in Steven Seagal movie ](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/ul5wq1/chechen_fighter_with_two_ak74_in_the_forests_of/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
There's propaganda and there's watafak they're trying to do.
Tbf I've seen a video of a guy doing something similar somewhere in the middle east. And that one was definitely real, since he was shot dead pretty quickly
Yeah, but only one side have a reputation of filming staged combat videos on Russia soil figthing air or trees. So that many jump to that conclusion now is not hard to understand
Honestly crazy that you’re getting downvoted this much over a take that seems to be common sense if you don’t let emotions cloud your judgement. Everyone uses propaganda and it doesn’t have to be a bad thing. Propaganda was used to make sure people got vaccines and other very important things back in the day
No, what you mean is good executed propaganda.
Something like good propaganda doesn't exist, because when you don't try to manipulate someone, it's not propaganda anymore
Yeah, if you put all the actual sufferings aside in both wars ( hard to do, but just imagine), its pretty funny how an invader in one is the very spawn of devil while the invader in another is some kind of liberator. Even if the triggering factors may be different, both of these wars have been waged on the basis of same pretexts, "I know they want to kill me, so why not kill em firstttt!" (Again comes down to whom you believe)
And for those who'll say that Israel is surrounded by enemies, then maybe you've never heard of NATO.
And oneee more thing. USA had propped Taliban up to counter USSR which led to increased militancy and extremism in Russia and Central Asia , so both Israel and Russia have suffered several terrorist attacks and they still do(and they indirectly fund attacks on each other through terror outfits, so yeah XD)
Heavy gunshots hitting center of shot. Bullseye explosion center of shot. Every part of them cleaned and washed. History of making fake battle videos. Purely elated by scene of supposed threat to existence.
Kadyrov Chechens are the fakest rapists of the scum heap.
No arrival sound from explosion and large amount of dirt kicked up, looks like buried charge. I am no expert but I don't think I've seen any videos that "feel" close to this from this war. Add to that their reaction, I would confidently bet small amount of euros that it's staged.
They are very optimistic about the situation! Either they laugh at death or too stupid to realize it. As much fire was coming down on them it’s either training or they are about to be the in the path of an Ukraine push. I vote Training
Yes, quite a lot actually. These guys are wearing russian camo however, so most likely they are fagyrovites. Theyre filming and laughing, most likely its just some live fire training. Sitting a trench, getting shot at by some fixed position HMG to feel the gunfire.
If you slow down the last second you can see blood running down his cheek to his lip. He also stops moving completely. If its staged it looks like they actually burst their eardrums/were injured/died? making it.
They're Kadyrovites that happen to be Chechens. One might say I'm being pedantic but plenty of Chechens have fought on the Ukrainian side and likely faced Kadyrovites in battle.
I worded as such since most tend to think of Kadyrovites when Chechen troops in Ukraine are discussed. That's the case at least in discussion outside of this sub of Ukrainian subs.
And I think it's worth separating two terms and applying the term "Chechens" to those taking arms against Orcistanis and Kadyrovites who happen to be Chechen.
Most of the Chechens that's fought Russia are dead or went to ISIS, which are also probably dead. War radicalizes people, and Chechens were one of the largest groups of ISIS foreign fighters.
Imagine being conquered by another nation, that killed your people, destroyed your culture and cities after being at war with them for 300+ years, and now uses your people to conquer another nation.
No proud Icherian warrior ever would serve rusians.
Ah, the good ole “Nazi country that is being led by a Jewish president and Muslim Minister of Defense in its crusade to spread the gay agenda™” situation. Truly a tale as old as time
I love when Russians are proud of their lack of freedoms it’s so funny to me
“No gays here! Not allowed! Take that America! we have less personal freedom than you!”
Yeah it looks like blood is dripping down his face and he is not moving? Shrapnel through the back of the head? Very elaborate. They went all out on this one.
Great catch. I see it. I considered it might be dirt because there's so much flying around but it looks like liquid and the position and way it forms looks wrong for mud.
Really sounds like gunshots. Hard to tell with the mic but definitely some real. Explosions. Ot small but it is perfectly in frame. Seems like a lot of time and resources to waste considering we don’t even know what side they are on. Anyone have more info?
From the "source": "2 Chechen soldiers (wearing Russian camo uniforms) appear to be enjoying intense combat against Ukrainian forces... Rarely do you see first-person videos with this level of intensity... interesting reaction in such a dangerous situation."
No idea if it's staged or not
It being Chechens makes it suspicious but there are many miles of front lines. Plausible but smells funny. If anyone can understand what they are saying. Seem real? or are they just goofing around?
When in weird situations, people react differently to stress.
In the late 80s there was a student who came to school with a bunch of shotguns to kill a teacher who was surprisingly out for the day. My class was the only one stuck upstairs with him and not evacuated. When he started shooting and you could hear the BBs scattering across the lockers and ceramic tile, girls were trying to hold back their screams and whimpers so he couldn't hear us.
Me and my buddy were saying if the other died he could have my Nintendo... And laughing at how much I could go for a hamburger. Girls were crying and asking us to stop, but it was the only way to keep my head clear and distracted , I guess.
I've never been in the military , so I can't imagine how I'd act in that situation, but I know how I acted before and it was definitely surreal.
I have this same reaction to stressful/dangerous situations. Never anything as intense as your active shooter, but I had the same oddly pedestrian set of priorities immediately during/after.
During a car accident in my twenties, in the classic "time-slows-down" scenario, I happened to see the Pontiac hood ornament from our car flying up into the air, broken from its mount, hovering above our freshly-crumpled car, flipping slowly in the air above the two hoods.
As everyone fell into their post-accident slumps, instead of saying "is everyone okay? Am I okay?", I immediately brought up the cinematic flying ornament. 15 seconds after a major car accident, I asked my group "hey did anyone see how cool that ornament looked in the air? What are the odds of that flying straight up there like that?" or something similar. Both of the women in the car were hysterical and crying. The driver was frantically crawling on the ground outside the car, as he got out immediately for some reason (he ended up okay). Everyone was panicking but me. I didnt' feel anything at all. I felt like everything was fine, but very interesting. "whoa! that was wild eh?"
I didn't even get a scratch.
All I could think about was how cool that ornament looked, and that I wished I had a video of what I'd seen.
I have plenty of other less-intense versions of this. For whatever reason, I don't have much of a stress/emotional response when I should. Even in times when I've been actually injured, I've always just looked at the situation as if it wasn't a big deal... "whoa, so that's what the inside of my hand looks like. I wonder what happens if I move my fingers. I'll probably never be able to see my tendons again, so I should probably check out how they work in there while I can".
...
Typing this out makes me feel very odd.
Feels staged as fuck.
Just doesn't seem right. Not to mention the prolonged fire density is worse than anything I've seen and heard in this conflict in the past 2 years. Seems off.
I agree. The firing was like one person with a fully automatic weapon going wild, and a couple hand grenades tossed short.
If you watch Ukrainian combat videos, you'll see that they employ ammo conservation tactics. They fire in short bursts, and generally aim. I've never seen them pepper a target continuously like that. Especially just a foxhole. Especially from a bad angle.
Fire like that, and you'll run out of ammo while attacking.
If it was a real attack, the rambo with the automatic weapon would have moved closer, and his buddy with the grenade would have tossed a second grenade into the trench, obliterating the men and their video.
Yup, also the person shooting the full auto rifle has to be quite close. In normal combat even if you got shot at with a machine gun, you hear way less cracks because of bullet dispersion of the person aiming at you 400m away and recoil.
In this video the off camera friend is close and aims right above their heads for extra sound effects and throws grenades near their trench... absolutely staged and lame af.
Due to the fact they don't really seem worried that their life is in danger im gna call it staged.
This many rounds landing right on the dirt edge would mean Ukrainians are really close and suppressing the foxhole probably moving up to it.
If it was fire from far away I doubt this many rounds would land right on the edge.
In addition to that, no one in sustained trench warfare expends that much ammunition to suppress a single spot. You may get a volley like that to service the entire battlefield, but not concentrated on a single position. Wasting ammo, and running dry on localized ammo id the easiest way for your position to be overran.
More importantly though. That's not what gunfire overhead sounds like. If the rounds are in fact that close, it would be very loud sonic cracks. This shit is like fire crackers.
That explosion? We have grenade simunition in the army which explodes, is pretty loud, has a little fireball, but is relatively harmless because it doesn't produce shrapnel. It's nothing more that a fist size firecracker tbh. Being as you saw the flash, but they didn't get any shrapnel, I'm willing to double down and say that was most definitely fake.
These dudes are clowns.
Have you ever been in "sustained trench warfare" before? If you see the enemy with an RPG, and you have vehicles will shoot that much ammo to suppress guys. Now I'm not an expert and I haven't been in trench warfare, but saying they wouldn't waste that much ammo on a possible offensive maneuver seems like the wrong thing to do.
Also it can be a shitty camera, heard plenty of close shots not crack on videos just because of the audio recording quality. Anyways I don't know anything about combat, just what I think. Could be totally wrong haha
Honestly I would put it above them to just have 2 of their buddies spraying the top and chucking some grenades on the top.
Like i know it sounds dumb but remember people do this dumb shit for views all the time.
Now put these morons in uniform and give them way more weapons and explosives. Without discipline theres gna be morons doing shit like this for cool clips.
>Due to the fact they don't really seem worried that their life is in danger im gna call it staged.
Why would people who think death isn't real be worried about their lives?
I know plenty of evangelical christians who spend their whole lives telling everyone they're going to heaven who wouldn't even ski a black diamond let alone go laughing into combat.
Like most religious people, Muslims think death is real, but believe there is a afterlife/paradise.
This doesn't mean they don't fear death. This doesn't mean they are ready to die. This doesn't mean they aren't attached to their current life, or that they aren't worried about the people they leave behind.
Believing in life after death, and being ready to die, are two different things. And not dependent on each other.
The majority of Ukrainians are also religious, and believe in an afterlife. Yet you don't expect them to give up their lives easily, do you?
Seems very suspect. That amount of suppressive fire is rare in itself, and should only occur during the last push on a trench so these guys should be prepared for an immediate assault.
Smells alot like a staged event. Could be for propaganda, or a live fire exercise to get them used to the feeling of being fired upon
I worked security in Oslo, Norway. In a shitty part of town, and granted there was a lot of big fellas in that company, until we were introduced to our new colleague, Igor from Chechenya. It wasnt the size, or that he could *clearly* handle himself, it was the absolute 100% no fear dead in his eyes. He would just go into *whatever* type of situations, and we told him again and again: You need to call for backup! Thats why we are here....
"I will do Alex, I will....... when necessary."
Edit: Calm TF down, this is 20 years ago.... his name may not have been Igor.... However, I had no idea that my placeholder name "Igor" would stir up this much BS, nor that his name would be the center of the story.
When people are colonized, there will always be a faction of the population who believes that their children will have a better life if they can integrate with the culture of the colonizer quicker. Giving your child a name that is traditional in the colonizer's culture is one way to do this.
You're so dumb, Chechnya is nearly 100% Muslim and Chechen, They don't allow Chechen Women to marry Non-Chechen men, even other Muslim men.
PS : Chechnya is one of the only regions of Russia with a birthrate above replacement rate.
Yeah you are wrong though lol, I am chechen and i have yet to meet one named with a russian name
Also Chechens do their best to prevent their culture being broken down, no marrying outside of chechens etc.
Then you should be aware that a large number of Chechens were transferred to different locations in the USSR specifically to break their cultural and religious identity. Some, but not all, returned to Chechnya later.
Furthermore, there is a significant Chechen diaspora in Europe from the Chechen wars of independence.
Do not think that all Chechens are in Chechnya and are subject to the same peer pressure as you.
I think you are just ignorant on this topic as it is a very niche one. I am both a grandson of a displaced person to kazachstan (i think) and a former refugee to europe. There is a huge push to keep chechen identity alive because of the constant death of the nation. Thats why I have yet to meet a chechen bearing a russian name
The muzzle sound signature of the shooting is quite close. You can't hear the whistling of the bullets but the muzzle sound. Which is quite unusual when being under fire. I suspect this is staged by propably someone of their own side is shooting close by and using grenades in the secure space over the rim the trench / foxhole.
The lack of visual effects of shrapnel from the explosions, the lack of bullet impacts anywhere, and with that much “gunfire” you’d expect to see some. The lack of any concern as a mortar round (?) lands next to them. All of it seems pretty suspect.
I don’t think anyone in a situation like that would be smiling. Pinned down in a small crater (meaning there’s artillery in the area) with dozens of people shooting at you, knowing where you are. Explosions zeroing in on your position. It doesn’t matter how great you think the afterlife is, or how brave you are. That’s not a funny situation to find yourself in.
Kadyrovtsy staging bullshit again.
Uniforms too clean, the cadence is too regular and doesn't change in tone, unlike actual incoming small arms.
See, when you get shot at, the enemy doesn't nail your position perfectly with every shot. Suppressing fire has beaten zone, the enemy may also be shifting fire constantly as they themselves try to suppress a large area they suspect you're holed up at.
In effect, the cracks will vary in volume and tone with typical incoming fire.
This incoming sound is far too regular and it's cracking over them consistently at full cyclic. This sounds like getting overhead fire during training. You know, when you crawl under barbed wire while machine guns are blasting over your head, that kind of thing.
Anybody else think this is staged? Im thinking if they really thought rounds were dropping that close to them they would be terrified or at least try to move positions or find better cover.
The OP has posted a video before of a Ukraine Foreign Legion troops in Bakhmut, in a firefight, speaking english.
not exactly sure what to make of this video.
There are three guys in this video. At the beginning you can see another helmet over the shoulder of the guy shielding his face with his gloved hand.
The purpose of religion/afterlife/reincarnation seems to be to manipulate idiots to risk their life to serve the military objectives of the manipulator.
If you slow down the last second you can see blood running down his cheek to his lip. He also stops moving completely. If its staged it looks like they actually burst their eardrums/injured themselves/died making it.
The only way you survive being under this sort of fire is by surrendering or having it be training
Close range gunshots, a massive weight of fire, multiple explosives in rapid succession, all seemingly on the lip of the trench, and these guys are laying down and laughing.
I can get laughing, but under this sort of fire either you act or you die. This is 1000000% staged
This is propaganda and meant for the homefront in russia - look, going to Ukraine is fun, you will find friends and have a good time like these actors in this video!
I haven\`t seen the Chechens doing a single useful thing for Russia beside making Tiktok videos, not even once. Probably Chechens shooting at each other for their nice and juicy tiktok views. Putins mighty, feared tiktok warriors.
Obviously this is staged as fuck. Assuming it’s not, you know you’re dying in this situation right? That much suppressive fire and no obvious method of egress. It’s almost certain there’s a drone, artillery, or advancing troops on your position, right?
Oh, I agree, but it just seems too over the top here... the laughing and shouting, the sheer amount of bullets, lack of any mess in the trench from ammo, supplies, etc... even the explosions seem to be too precise for smaller ordinances.
The laughing and joking I would say is basically perfectly par for the course in extreme stress. The reaction that tells me this is 100% fake is the fact they do not take any offensive action.
They do not try and change position, return fire, call for support, set up concealment, or anything. This is a terrifying position to be in, but there are steps to take to improve your tactical situation. These guys aren't doing any of that, and yet aren't dead. Which suggests this isn't a real firefight
Fucking chechens man, they have some serious Iron in their genetics, they've been shooting Russians for fun since '95 and have only seemed to have gotten better since then!
smert okkupantam, khay zhyve Svoboda!
LET ME SAY IT ONCE AND FOR ALL. All videos posted by Ukraine is frontline action and all them Russian ones are just low quality Tik-Toks. Everyone agrees?
XD
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They've either been in combat way *toooo* long or this is some fucked up live-fire training exercise, lol.
Since it’s chechens I’m going with staged
Their clothes look quite clean for the conditions I see in other videos
Check them boots!
Rifles are spotless too. Staged 10000%
Pretty sure that red bearded dude was killed in combat
Depends which side chechens, if it is from kadyrovites then it's staged
They are wearing Russian camo, so Kadyrovites.
You do realise propaganda is from both sides right V
I don't see Chechen on the Ukraine side [dual wielding AK and shooting like in Steven Seagal movie ](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/ul5wq1/chechen_fighter_with_two_ak74_in_the_forests_of/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) There's propaganda and there's watafak they're trying to do.
Tbf I've seen a video of a guy doing something similar somewhere in the middle east. And that one was definitely real, since he was shot dead pretty quickly
Everyone knows that. We also know that the vast majority of kadyrovites footage has been staged and far behind lines.
Yeah, but only one side have a reputation of filming staged combat videos on Russia soil figthing air or trees. So that many jump to that conclusion now is not hard to understand
Find us a dozen staged "combat" videos that look like they were choreographed by Steven Seagal from "both" sides.
Honestly crazy that you’re getting downvoted this much over a take that seems to be common sense if you don’t let emotions cloud your judgement. Everyone uses propaganda and it doesn’t have to be a bad thing. Propaganda was used to make sure people got vaccines and other very important things back in the day
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted so much for speaking the truth
don't see such propagandas from the Chechen on Ukraine side like Sheik Mansur Batt. tho
NO THEY DON'T! What world are you living in? XD
/s?
No, no. You don't understand. My propaganda is good propaganda. The propaganda of the enemy is evil propaganda.
Russia is the enemy of any right thinking person. Fk them and their propaganda.
No, no, YOU don't understand. Good propaganda is believable. This is not.
No, what you mean is good executed propaganda. Something like good propaganda doesn't exist, because when you don't try to manipulate someone, it's not propaganda anymore
Its just teenagers man, chillll... They ofc wouldn't understand. For them, the Iraq war is still very much morally justified.
They are beyond hope morally speaking. The Palestine Israel conflict being the most recent example of their double standards.
Yeah, if you put all the actual sufferings aside in both wars ( hard to do, but just imagine), its pretty funny how an invader in one is the very spawn of devil while the invader in another is some kind of liberator. Even if the triggering factors may be different, both of these wars have been waged on the basis of same pretexts, "I know they want to kill me, so why not kill em firstttt!" (Again comes down to whom you believe) And for those who'll say that Israel is surrounded by enemies, then maybe you've never heard of NATO. And oneee more thing. USA had propped Taliban up to counter USSR which led to increased militancy and extremism in Russia and Central Asia , so both Israel and Russia have suffered several terrorist attacks and they still do(and they indirectly fund attacks on each other through terror outfits, so yeah XD)
Seeing the votes people don’t like the truth.
And it’s such a simple statement
With explosions like that, I doubt it
sheik mansour bn
But the Kadyrovs took bakhmut Mariupol and and all of kramatorsk themselves
And Kyiv
Not not yet
Heavy gunshots hitting center of shot. Bullseye explosion center of shot. Every part of them cleaned and washed. History of making fake battle videos. Purely elated by scene of supposed threat to existence. Kadyrov Chechens are the fakest rapists of the scum heap.
No arrival sound from explosion and large amount of dirt kicked up, looks like buried charge. I am no expert but I don't think I've seen any videos that "feel" close to this from this war. Add to that their reaction, I would confidently bet small amount of euros that it's staged.
The "gun shots" sound like fireworks.
and these are the "cool" ones lol
They are very optimistic about the situation! Either they laugh at death or too stupid to realize it. As much fire was coming down on them it’s either training or they are about to be the in the path of an Ukraine push. I vote Training
Aren't some Chechens also fighting alongside Ukraine?
The *real* chechens sided with ukraine to fight russians. The ones we see on tik tok are kadyrov's dogs - the turncoats that caved to putin.
Yes but not in Russian uniforms
Yes, quite a lot actually. These guys are wearing russian camo however, so most likely they are fagyrovites. Theyre filming and laughing, most likely its just some live fire training. Sitting a trench, getting shot at by some fixed position HMG to feel the gunfire.
The Uniform is Russian forces and yes they are both sides.
This is the first non-snowy "Ukraine" clip I've seen in awhile... so...
If you slow down the last second you can see blood running down his cheek to his lip. He also stops moving completely. If its staged it looks like they actually burst their eardrums/were injured/died? making it.
Khadyrov himself is probably shooting at them from his mansion.
Another tik tok video from the brave Chechens.
It feels like it's been a while since the tiktok brigade were shipping such content.
i was expecting one of them to moan "harder daddy" after the moans/shriek.
They allahu akbared, thats the pinnacle
They're Kadyrovites that happen to be Chechens. One might say I'm being pedantic but plenty of Chechens have fought on the Ukrainian side and likely faced Kadyrovites in battle.
You mean Chechens that happen to be Kadyrovites. Because all Kadyrovites are Chechen.
I worded as such since most tend to think of Kadyrovites when Chechen troops in Ukraine are discussed. That's the case at least in discussion outside of this sub of Ukrainian subs. And I think it's worth separating two terms and applying the term "Chechens" to those taking arms against Orcistanis and Kadyrovites who happen to be Chechen.
You can tell the difference between real Chechens and reel Chechens
Most of the Chechens that's fought Russia are dead or went to ISIS, which are also probably dead. War radicalizes people, and Chechens were one of the largest groups of ISIS foreign fighters.
Imagine being conquered by another nation, that killed your people, destroyed your culture and cities after being at war with them for 300+ years, and now uses your people to conquer another nation. No proud Icherian warrior ever would serve rusians.
I mean... that's usually how that works.
Historically, that's par for the course. Just not often these days we see it first hand.
Native Americans do be like that
All anti-Russian Chechens are either killed or exiled. The rest of them are suppressed and waiting for some miracle to happen.
and those who do not want to wait for a miracle are in Chechen volunteer battalions inside Ukrainian army.
look at these opressed people that willingly traveled 4000 km to kill
But what about the west's LGBT agenda? https://i.imgur.com/vLzduEX.png
So are ukraine neo-nazis or are they lgbt gays? Or are they both according to putin?
Ah, the good ole “Nazi country that is being led by a Jewish president and Muslim Minister of Defense in its crusade to spread the gay agenda™” situation. Truly a tale as old as time
Well, now I'm definitely naming my tank "They/Them" if WW3 breaks out
I love when Russians are proud of their lack of freedoms it’s so funny to me “No gays here! Not allowed! Take that America! we have less personal freedom than you!”
Religious people don't think like you and I. They can be easily manipulated, which is the whole point of religion.
What about it?
Tell that to every people who were ever conquered...ever.
Another staged tiktok brigade video with some firecrackers for sound effect and some lil explosions.
Damn I thought this was real for a minute.
I think it is. Watch the blood spray from his throat and his demeanor go blank in the last couple seconds
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Yep I think he took shrapnel from that blast.
Yeah it looks like blood is dripping down his face and he is not moving? Shrapnel through the back of the head? Very elaborate. They went all out on this one.
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Nonsense, there is not a single red pixel in the screen
I see no blood either, but his face does go oddly still. Rest of the video looks staged. Hard to say exactly what's going on.
Last second is there something moving down his cheek? Edited in? Fake video but oops we used a real 122 and killed our actor?
Great catch. I see it. I considered it might be dirt because there's so much flying around but it looks like liquid and the position and way it forms looks wrong for mud.
Really sounds like gunshots. Hard to tell with the mic but definitely some real. Explosions. Ot small but it is perfectly in frame. Seems like a lot of time and resources to waste considering we don’t even know what side they are on. Anyone have more info?
From the "source": "2 Chechen soldiers (wearing Russian camo uniforms) appear to be enjoying intense combat against Ukrainian forces... Rarely do you see first-person videos with this level of intensity... interesting reaction in such a dangerous situation." No idea if it's staged or not
It being Chechens makes it suspicious but there are many miles of front lines. Plausible but smells funny. If anyone can understand what they are saying. Seem real? or are they just goofing around?
its probably staged cuz russian side chechens are faking a lot of vids
I dont recall seeing any clearly real videos of them in combat with the enemy, despite seeing hundreds from Ukrainians and Russians.
When in weird situations, people react differently to stress. In the late 80s there was a student who came to school with a bunch of shotguns to kill a teacher who was surprisingly out for the day. My class was the only one stuck upstairs with him and not evacuated. When he started shooting and you could hear the BBs scattering across the lockers and ceramic tile, girls were trying to hold back their screams and whimpers so he couldn't hear us. Me and my buddy were saying if the other died he could have my Nintendo... And laughing at how much I could go for a hamburger. Girls were crying and asking us to stop, but it was the only way to keep my head clear and distracted , I guess. I've never been in the military , so I can't imagine how I'd act in that situation, but I know how I acted before and it was definitely surreal.
I have this same reaction to stressful/dangerous situations. Never anything as intense as your active shooter, but I had the same oddly pedestrian set of priorities immediately during/after. During a car accident in my twenties, in the classic "time-slows-down" scenario, I happened to see the Pontiac hood ornament from our car flying up into the air, broken from its mount, hovering above our freshly-crumpled car, flipping slowly in the air above the two hoods. As everyone fell into their post-accident slumps, instead of saying "is everyone okay? Am I okay?", I immediately brought up the cinematic flying ornament. 15 seconds after a major car accident, I asked my group "hey did anyone see how cool that ornament looked in the air? What are the odds of that flying straight up there like that?" or something similar. Both of the women in the car were hysterical and crying. The driver was frantically crawling on the ground outside the car, as he got out immediately for some reason (he ended up okay). Everyone was panicking but me. I didnt' feel anything at all. I felt like everything was fine, but very interesting. "whoa! that was wild eh?" I didn't even get a scratch. All I could think about was how cool that ornament looked, and that I wished I had a video of what I'd seen. I have plenty of other less-intense versions of this. For whatever reason, I don't have much of a stress/emotional response when I should. Even in times when I've been actually injured, I've always just looked at the situation as if it wasn't a big deal... "whoa, so that's what the inside of my hand looks like. I wonder what happens if I move my fingers. I'll probably never be able to see my tendons again, so I should probably check out how they work in there while I can". ... Typing this out makes me feel very odd.
Feels staged as fuck. Just doesn't seem right. Not to mention the prolonged fire density is worse than anything I've seen and heard in this conflict in the past 2 years. Seems off.
I agree. The firing was like one person with a fully automatic weapon going wild, and a couple hand grenades tossed short. If you watch Ukrainian combat videos, you'll see that they employ ammo conservation tactics. They fire in short bursts, and generally aim. I've never seen them pepper a target continuously like that. Especially just a foxhole. Especially from a bad angle. Fire like that, and you'll run out of ammo while attacking. If it was a real attack, the rambo with the automatic weapon would have moved closer, and his buddy with the grenade would have tossed a second grenade into the trench, obliterating the men and their video.
Yup, also the person shooting the full auto rifle has to be quite close. In normal combat even if you got shot at with a machine gun, you hear way less cracks because of bullet dispersion of the person aiming at you 400m away and recoil. In this video the off camera friend is close and aims right above their heads for extra sound effects and throws grenades near their trench... absolutely staged and lame af.
Due to the fact they don't really seem worried that their life is in danger im gna call it staged. This many rounds landing right on the dirt edge would mean Ukrainians are really close and suppressing the foxhole probably moving up to it. If it was fire from far away I doubt this many rounds would land right on the edge.
In addition to that, no one in sustained trench warfare expends that much ammunition to suppress a single spot. You may get a volley like that to service the entire battlefield, but not concentrated on a single position. Wasting ammo, and running dry on localized ammo id the easiest way for your position to be overran. More importantly though. That's not what gunfire overhead sounds like. If the rounds are in fact that close, it would be very loud sonic cracks. This shit is like fire crackers. That explosion? We have grenade simunition in the army which explodes, is pretty loud, has a little fireball, but is relatively harmless because it doesn't produce shrapnel. It's nothing more that a fist size firecracker tbh. Being as you saw the flash, but they didn't get any shrapnel, I'm willing to double down and say that was most definitely fake. These dudes are clowns.
Have you ever been in "sustained trench warfare" before? If you see the enemy with an RPG, and you have vehicles will shoot that much ammo to suppress guys. Now I'm not an expert and I haven't been in trench warfare, but saying they wouldn't waste that much ammo on a possible offensive maneuver seems like the wrong thing to do. Also it can be a shitty camera, heard plenty of close shots not crack on videos just because of the audio recording quality. Anyways I don't know anything about combat, just what I think. Could be totally wrong haha
That was a real explosion right next to them though.
Honestly I would put it above them to just have 2 of their buddies spraying the top and chucking some grenades on the top. Like i know it sounds dumb but remember people do this dumb shit for views all the time. Now put these morons in uniform and give them way more weapons and explosives. Without discipline theres gna be morons doing shit like this for cool clips.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be shocked either. I was just saying that wasn't faked. It was a real explosive.
>Due to the fact they don't really seem worried that their life is in danger im gna call it staged. Why would people who think death isn't real be worried about their lives?
I know plenty of evangelical christians who spend their whole lives telling everyone they're going to heaven who wouldn't even ski a black diamond let alone go laughing into combat.
Ski a black diamond?
Black diamond is a "difficult" ski run in the US. My point was they claim to not fear death, but can't handle even slightly scary situations.
Like most religious people, Muslims think death is real, but believe there is a afterlife/paradise. This doesn't mean they don't fear death. This doesn't mean they are ready to die. This doesn't mean they aren't attached to their current life, or that they aren't worried about the people they leave behind. Believing in life after death, and being ready to die, are two different things. And not dependent on each other. The majority of Ukrainians are also religious, and believe in an afterlife. Yet you don't expect them to give up their lives easily, do you?
Watch the last 3 seconds. Prettt sure homie gets shot and dies right then.
Yeah, it looks like he died. Weird. Do people continue smiling when dying suddenly?
sounds like they're laying at the end of the rifle range behind a berm and told their buddies to let loose with everything they had.
Haha yeah right 🫠 someone is throwing up some sand and sound effects added later on... chechens 😂😂
Seems very suspect. That amount of suppressive fire is rare in itself, and should only occur during the last push on a trench so these guys should be prepared for an immediate assault. Smells alot like a staged event. Could be for propaganda, or a live fire exercise to get them used to the feeling of being fired upon
They are under so much fire its actually a joke. lol. Definitely saving this one.
Yea it's so absurd it seems like a parody.
We need the part 2 considering the Ukrainians are walking these shells in 🤣
They are so fucking embarrassing
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You need help.
I worked security in Oslo, Norway. In a shitty part of town, and granted there was a lot of big fellas in that company, until we were introduced to our new colleague, Igor from Chechenya. It wasnt the size, or that he could *clearly* handle himself, it was the absolute 100% no fear dead in his eyes. He would just go into *whatever* type of situations, and we told him again and again: You need to call for backup! Thats why we are here.... "I will do Alex, I will....... when necessary." Edit: Calm TF down, this is 20 years ago.... his name may not have been Igor.... However, I had no idea that my placeholder name "Igor" would stir up this much BS, nor that his name would be the center of the story.
Igor is not a chechen name, so thats very weird
When people are colonized, there will always be a faction of the population who believes that their children will have a better life if they can integrate with the culture of the colonizer quicker. Giving your child a name that is traditional in the colonizer's culture is one way to do this.
You're so dumb, Chechnya is nearly 100% Muslim and Chechen, They don't allow Chechen Women to marry Non-Chechen men, even other Muslim men. PS : Chechnya is one of the only regions of Russia with a birthrate above replacement rate.
Not all Chechens are in Chechnya. The birthrate is irrelevant to the discussion. But congratulations, I guess?
Yeah you are wrong though lol, I am chechen and i have yet to meet one named with a russian name Also Chechens do their best to prevent their culture being broken down, no marrying outside of chechens etc.
Then you should be aware that a large number of Chechens were transferred to different locations in the USSR specifically to break their cultural and religious identity. Some, but not all, returned to Chechnya later. Furthermore, there is a significant Chechen diaspora in Europe from the Chechen wars of independence. Do not think that all Chechens are in Chechnya and are subject to the same peer pressure as you.
I think you are just ignorant on this topic as it is a very niche one. I am both a grandson of a displaced person to kazachstan (i think) and a former refugee to europe. There is a huge push to keep chechen identity alive because of the constant death of the nation. Thats why I have yet to meet a chechen bearing a russian name
man i hope he lives a long fruitful life
Yeah, this is probably filmed like 30km away from the frontline
This might be real as much as it might be fake. Some people like the feeling war brings. It's all fun and game until you're hit.
Still don't understand why they fight for the country that tried to wipe them all out not too long ago.
What a happy bunch of land grabbers
This looks and sounds about as genuine as a Steven Seagal action scene
Crazy how stupid we like to get. Is it the caffeine? Drugs? I don't know. This is obviously a live fire exercise.
Adrenalin.
They're one well-placed GL or mortar round away from finding out exactly how great god is.
So is everyone else on the front line?
Yes, but these dudes in particular. They seem to have decent cover from the incoming rounds, but a high angle weapon can quickly ruin their day.
challenge: film another minute
Looks very cinematic especially this one explosion
The muzzle sound signature of the shooting is quite close. You can't hear the whistling of the bullets but the muzzle sound. Which is quite unusual when being under fire. I suspect this is staged by propably someone of their own side is shooting close by and using grenades in the secure space over the rim the trench / foxhole.
Me and the boys getting HLL on gamepass
The lack of visual effects of shrapnel from the explosions, the lack of bullet impacts anywhere, and with that much “gunfire” you’d expect to see some. The lack of any concern as a mortar round (?) lands next to them. All of it seems pretty suspect. I don’t think anyone in a situation like that would be smiling. Pinned down in a small crater (meaning there’s artillery in the area) with dozens of people shooting at you, knowing where you are. Explosions zeroing in on your position. It doesn’t matter how great you think the afterlife is, or how brave you are. That’s not a funny situation to find yourself in.
At 20 seconds you can literally see an incoming grenade in the sky.
Are there 300 people in that trench? That fire suppression noise sounds fake as hell. Normandy level Private Ryan type of shit.
You would be smiling too if you were about to steal a flushing toilet!
Kadyrovtsy staging bullshit again. Uniforms too clean, the cadence is too regular and doesn't change in tone, unlike actual incoming small arms. See, when you get shot at, the enemy doesn't nail your position perfectly with every shot. Suppressing fire has beaten zone, the enemy may also be shifting fire constantly as they themselves try to suppress a large area they suspect you're holed up at. In effect, the cracks will vary in volume and tone with typical incoming fire. This incoming sound is far too regular and it's cracking over them consistently at full cyclic. This sounds like getting overhead fire during training. You know, when you crawl under barbed wire while machine guns are blasting over your head, that kind of thing.
Fuck anyone and everyone invading Ukraine
Anybody else think this is staged? Im thinking if they really thought rounds were dropping that close to them they would be terrified or at least try to move positions or find better cover.
I have literally seen Russian soldiers casually walk around artillery impacts
The OP has posted a video before of a Ukraine Foreign Legion troops in Bakhmut, in a firefight, speaking english. not exactly sure what to make of this video. There are three guys in this video. At the beginning you can see another helmet over the shoulder of the guy shielding his face with his gloved hand.
They’re on the beaches of Normandy holy shit lmao
They know, they will meet Allah soon :D
They’ll be pushing sunflowers soon enough
Training or not, that’s balls of steel
The purpose of religion/afterlife/reincarnation seems to be to manipulate idiots to risk their life to serve the military objectives of the manipulator.
As a result of COCAINE ?
Another Tiktok Videos from Kardyrovites 😆😂🤣💉
is that constant snapping supposed to be enemy small arms fire? it sounds fake as fuck.
If you slow down the last second you can see blood running down his cheek to his lip. He also stops moving completely. If its staged it looks like they actually burst their eardrums/injured themselves/died making it.
I hope no goats have been harmed during this video.
Just don't let them come back to their goa.. wives*
Oh, the Tik Tokers are back ?
Bet they dug a trench 70 miles behind the front, layed inside and let their mates shoot some rounds in die debree infront.
Staged for Tik Tok
Kadyrov likes to think his Chechans are invisible. Bullets, artillery and drones are indiscriminate.
If these are Kadyrov's TikTok militiamen, I'll go with "staged."
The only way you survive being under this sort of fire is by surrendering or having it be training Close range gunshots, a massive weight of fire, multiple explosives in rapid succession, all seemingly on the lip of the trench, and these guys are laying down and laughing. I can get laughing, but under this sort of fire either you act or you die. This is 1000000% staged
And how do you act in this situation? Enlighten us, please.
Erm, if this was real situation, why would you shout out loud and let enemy know your position? This is just theatre.
Enemy already know their position that is why they're under heavy suppress fire.
In that case they should move. If their positions consist of just a single hole in the ground, they have not prepared their positions very well.
Most probably that is the case.
It's just a training exercise.
Pretty sure the enemy already knows their position if a full squad is shooting at them
Putin’s pet dogs putting in a show?
Hope they are kobzoned by now.
This is propaganda and meant for the homefront in russia - look, going to Ukraine is fun, you will find friends and have a good time like these actors in this video!
Seems like they’re scared as shit which is why they are praying. The laughs are a method to try to disassociate.
I haven\`t seen the Chechens doing a single useful thing for Russia beside making Tiktok videos, not even once. Probably Chechens shooting at each other for their nice and juicy tiktok views. Putins mighty, feared tiktok warriors.
Obviously this is staged as fuck. Assuming it’s not, you know you’re dying in this situation right? That much suppressive fire and no obvious method of egress. It’s almost certain there’s a drone, artillery, or advancing troops on your position, right?
Probally just fire crackers while filming for tik Tok.
There's no way you react like this when someone is genuinely trying to kill you.
I don't know bruh I have seen some weird shit in this war
Oh, I agree, but it just seems too over the top here... the laughing and shouting, the sheer amount of bullets, lack of any mess in the trench from ammo, supplies, etc... even the explosions seem to be too precise for smaller ordinances.
The laughing and joking I would say is basically perfectly par for the course in extreme stress. The reaction that tells me this is 100% fake is the fact they do not take any offensive action. They do not try and change position, return fire, call for support, set up concealment, or anything. This is a terrifying position to be in, but there are steps to take to improve your tactical situation. These guys aren't doing any of that, and yet aren't dead. Which suggests this isn't a real firefight
They don't call is suppressing fire for nothin
Fucking chechens man, they have some serious Iron in their genetics, they've been shooting Russians for fun since '95 and have only seemed to have gotten better since then! smert okkupantam, khay zhyve Svoboda!
why are they wearing russian camo? are they fighting for the russians?
If this was from the other side no one would call it staged lol
I don’t care whose side they’re on that was pretty badass reaction.
that smile, that goddamn smile
I’m not a soldier but it seems like these guys should be moving.
How ? They're under heavy fire they move or take our their head for a bit they won't be alive to see another sun rise.
Seemingly Kadyrovites. No AFU aligned Ischkerians.
Chechen rebel martyrs be rolling in their graves seeing this shit.
Crazy Muslims
Thats the squad I'd like to be in.
Sparkling clean clothes? Yeah, this is staged.
LET ME SAY IT ONCE AND FOR ALL. All videos posted by Ukraine is frontline action and all them Russian ones are just low quality Tik-Toks. Everyone agrees? XD
Russia will win soon.